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Sony Xperia T & TX thread


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Posted by Big_D

On 2012-09-03 11:01:28, randomuser wrote:
So anybody here getting the T on Wednesday ?


Where? USA? Global? Europe? Asia? South America?

even if this doesn't release in America or does it late, I wonder if there's any big difference. I would by a non-USA version and use it in America. will there be any problems. mainly MMS settings on T-Mobile USA. I always had problems with this, but eventually found a working settings. I wonder if I would run into that problem?
[ This Message was edited by: Big_D on 2012-09-03 21:39 ]



Posted by moogoo
does anybody know if the extra features the XV has over the XT can be ported to the XT? seems like those features are all software based anyway..

Posted by Xajel
Okay I'm a little bit confused to choose between T & TX ( incase both will be available in my country, thought I guess only T might be available )

T is the high-end, where all Sony's spot light will be, guess that also support will be better for it but.. I like the look and feel of TX more, specially the removable battery; Hope some makers will make extended batteries for it.. having an embedded battery might stop makers from doing this unless it was very popular ( like iPhone's battery cover ) and it will be very hard coz of the nature of the curved design and the location of the microUSB port...

for those who didn't notice, from pictures T & TX might look very similar but they are different, TX is exactly same as the Japaniese Xperia GX... but Xperia T is in it's own design...

from hardware perspective both are exactly the same, same SoC, same RAM, storage, microSD, screen, camera, ports, NFC, microSIM...

T is heaver, a little bit shorter, but also not as thin as TX which is a little bit thinner, taller and lighter...

from the look and feel, TX ( which is just like GX ) is more attractive to me... but T has all the spot light... I don't care about spot light as much as I care about support... look at Xperia arc and Neo... both has the exactly same spec. but different look and Xperia arc got more spot light and support... if not from Sony them self.. then from the developers community...

If I can guarantee the support from both Sony and the developers community for Xperia TX, and if TX will be available in my country.. then I'll sure go for TX


BTW, I saw a pic of Xperia J notification LED and I liked it, then I asked my self where's the notification LED in Xperia T ? I tried to look for it but no success... I tried to look also for Xperia TX but also no success but as TX is same as GX I think both will have that LED in the front side of the phone on the bottom Xperia logo
[ This Message was edited by: Xajel on 2012-09-04 07:26 ]


Posted by Xajel

On 2012-09-04 08:10:22, moogoo wrote:
does anybody know if the extra features the XV has over the XT can be ported to the XT? seems like those features are all software based anyway..



Nope, both screen and camera features are Hardware.. for example the HDR feature in camera and the new display...

Posted by randomuser
^
Actually not. They are both software based. Also unknown13x is saying all 3 - T/TX/V have the HDR function. Let's wait and watch.

Posted by Arne Anka

On 2012-09-04 08:22:44, Xajel wrote:
Okay I'm a little bit confused to choose between T & TX ( incase both will be available in my country, thought I guess only T might be available )


They are basically same phone targeted for different markets. I doubt you will see both in your country.

Posted by Xajel

On 2012-09-04 10:20:30, randomuser wrote:
^
Actually not. They are both software based. Also unknown13x is saying all 3 - T/TX/V have the HDR function. Let's wait and watch.


Really ? I thought that HDR function was a hardware thing in the sensor, and the new display in V is the reason for the feature...

Posted by Indiandawg

On 2012-09-04 10:27:03, Arne Anka wrote:

On 2012-09-04 08:22:44, Xajel wrote:
Okay I'm a little bit confused to choose between T & TX ( incase both will be available in my country, thought I guess only T might be available )


They are basically same phone targeted for different markets. I doubt you will see both in your country.


This is what I don't get it. They both look different so they're not the same. From what I understand, In some market T won't be available and TX will be there. So basically, they miss out on T which is clearly different from TX

Posted by randomuser
@Xajel

It's only software based HDR. Hardware HDR feature will be available only when Exmor RS sensors are used and the T/TX/V use the exact same camera which doesn't support hardware HDR.

Posted by Xajel
So this one is taking two pictures with different ISO then combining the best of two pics... if this is the HDR then yes it's only software...

Posted by randomuser
Xperia TX prototype vs Final Retail version screen comparison. Retail version on left.




Posted by NightBlade
The contrast ratio has really improved.

Posted by randomuser
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dz9hBuxe4U

Xperia T coming to Three UK soon.

Posted by NightBlade

On 2012-09-04 14:02:27, randomuser wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dz9hBuxe4U

Xperia T coming to Three UK soon.

Notice how the app drawer icon pulses?
I don't like that.

Posted by moogoo

On 2012-09-04 10:47:12, Xajel wrote:

On 2012-09-04 10:20:30, randomuser wrote:
^
Actually not. They are both software based. Also unknown13x is saying all 3 - T/TX/V have the HDR function. Let's wait and watch.


Really ? I thought that HDR function was a hardware thing in the sensor, and the new display in V is the reason for the feature...



Yea, I was thinking they are software features. Bravia Engine before is just a software feature to enhance colors and what not. I thought the screen on the XV was simply an intouch screen, not a special "whitemagic" screen, but i may be mistaken.

HDR should be software since the stacked sensors aren't used yet. The audio features should be software as well since there's no mention of an additional DSP anywhere.

Would be FANTASTIC if all these features are ported to the XT. Obviously, Sony isn't going to do it otherwise they would have just done it already, but I'm sure some geniuses over at XDA will find a way It would make the XT, truly, a flagship device sans the water resistance.

Posted by Xajel
Exmor RS is the hardware HDR...

Software HDR will only be available in images... but the Hardware solution in Exmor RS will make it available also in Video... + in still images with faster shooting... software HDR is only possible in still scene.. any moving objects won't be good with this solution

Posted by king-james
The screen of the final version has much better colours and viewing angles!!! Keep going SONY!

Posted by goldenface
Sorry if already posted but the UK release date is now 26th September. Coming to Orange, O2 and Three UK. so far.

Posted by Big_D
If UK release date is Sept. 26th, what would that say about the other releases? US, Global, etc? I'm just thinking there might be a formula I'm not aware of...

on another note, I wonder if the Sony Xperia UX platform have the same "App Association" as the HTC Sense? I hate it, where it have to use it to a specified app. it's annoying. I like it to set on "Ask".
Like saying when I open a link, I choose between the 4 browser app I had installed. sometimes a different browser. With the updated 4.0 ICS, I don't have that option.

Hopefully Sony Xperia UX don't have that issue.

Posted by moogoo
Sadness...

The AT&T version of the T looks so ugly! Sure, there's a metal back, but it's only for the middle portion which adds seems. Plus they took away the gorgeous xperia logo on the front for their stupid globe logo. wtf is that! Sigh.. IS LTE worth this? I'm not sure. Not sure if i can get a subsidized price either, so i may just get the international version once it's available from a reputable seller in the US.

Damn you AT&T!!! *shakes fist firmly in the air!*

Posted by newnagasaki

On 2012-09-04 21:43:21, goldenface wrote:
Sorry if already posted but the UK release date is now 26th September. Coming to Orange, O2 and Three UK. so far.



Is that for the T or TX?

Also can someone please answer the question of this phone will work on T-mobile USA's 3G/4G? I know it has the supported bands, but is that all thats needed in order to work on their network?



Posted by Xajel

On 2012-09-05 01:11:01, Big_D wrote:
on another note, I wonder if the Sony Xperia UX platform have the same "App Association" as the HTC Sense? I hate it, where it have to use it to a specified app. it's annoying. I like it to set on "Ask".
Like saying when I open a link, I choose between the 4 browser app I had installed. sometimes a different browser. With the updated 4.0 ICS, I don't have that option.

Hopefully Sony Xperia UX don't have that issue.



It's not an issue, its normal Android behavior...

When you select any app as the default app ( like browser for example ), that Ask dialogue won't show again until you remove that default behavior...

Go to Settings>Apps and go to that default app (for example the browser that opens whenever you open a link)... then look for Clear Default button to clear the default behavior...

Posted by Arne Anka

On 2012-09-05 01:43:54, newnagasaki wrote:
Is that for the T or TX?


TX is for the Asian market only.


On 2012-09-04 10:52:48, Indiandawg wrote:
This is what I don't get it. They both look different so they're not the same. From what I understand, In some market T won't be available and TX will be there. So basically, they miss out on T which is clearly different from TX


The external looks slightly different. That's true. However the internal and software is 100% same as far as I understand it. Sony has also stated (in an Swedish magazine) that the supply of the S4 chip is very low, so they can not make all phones available on all market at present time. That may change in the future (read 2013) if there is any demand by that time.
[ This Message was edited by: Arne Anka on 2012-09-05 06:55 ]


Posted by randomuser
Xperia TX vs Xperia S screen comparo





P.S. So the XPERIA logo does glow
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2012-09-05 10:51 ]


Posted by randomuser
Some more info about the TX from Chinese review

* TX has anti oil anti fingerprint coating on the body.

* Camera performance is excellent in good light, but night shots without flash aren't great and even with flash not great. Focus is slow in low light and also difficult to achieve.

* Screen is an improvement over Xperia S but still not great, screen is also fingerprint magnet and gets scratched easily.

Benchmarks (possibly final software)

Antutu - 8248
Nenamark 2 - 60.1 fps
Vellamo - 2380

* Overall very good performance, even beating quad core devices in some areas. UI is very good.

Link to full review for those interested

http://translate.googleuserco[....]rhjEle4JtsksGiSmSMn05x5uMCIcbg
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2012-09-05 11:08 ]


Posted by Xajel
Any word regarding Fast Charging in the new phones ?


Posted by Big_D

On 2012-09-05 07:35:16, Xajel wrote:

On 2012-09-05 01:11:01, Big_D wrote:
on another note, I wonder if the Sony Xperia UX platform have the same "App Association" as the HTC Sense? I hate it, where it have to use it to a specified app. it's annoying. I like it to set on "Ask".
Like saying when I open a link, I choose between the 4 browser app I had installed. sometimes a different browser. With the updated 4.0 ICS, I don't have that option.

Hopefully Sony Xperia UX don't have that issue.



It's not an issue, its normal Android behavior...

When you select any app as the default app ( like browser for example ), that Ask dialogue won't show again until you remove that default behavior...

Go to Settings>Apps and go to that default app (for example the browser that opens whenever you open a link)... then look for Clear Default button to clear the default behavior...



No, I already tried that the first time, doesn't do squat. Clearing the default doesn't change it. the "Ask" box never pops up no more, even if I were to say set my android browser as the default, if in "App Association" I set the Dolphin Browser, the DB will open every links, the App Association seems to overwrite that. it's an HTC thing, supposedly something to do with Apple sueing HTC and removing that feature. I dunno the details.

I'm hoping it's a HTC thing, and not have it on Xperia.

anyway, just read that AT&T USA getting the phone, but since I'm T-Mobile USA and was going to buy unlocked anyway, that doesn't really matter. I still hoping someone can clarify if the 1700/2100 mhz radio bands are true and it can use T-Mobile USA 3G/4G network.

Posted by Xajel
^^

I have Xperia arc, and bout Xperia S to my wife and I don't have such a thing, it's HTC thing for sure.. if I clear the default then it's cleared...

Posted by Lightspeed_x
@Randomuser: Which phone is the one with the Xperia logo glowing? S or TX?



Posted by Xajel

On 2012-09-05 14:39:58, Lightspeed_x wrote:
@Randomuser: Which phone is the one with the Xperia logo glowing? S or TX?


Xperia TX

Posted by Tsepz_GP

On 2012-09-03 11:01:28, randomuser wrote:
So anybody here getting the T on Wednesday ?


So, has anyone got their Xperia T or seen any on sale today?

Posted by randomuser
^
I'm curious to know this as well but seems like it was a mistake on part of Carphonewarehouse.

Posted by dibdin
The display on the Xperia T appears to be significantly better than that of the Xperia S going by those images.

Still, I think I will stick with my Xperia S for now, and see what Sony bring to the table in early 2013.

Posted by xenia

On 2012-09-05 16:22:40, dibdin wrote:
The display on the Xperia T appears to be significantly better than that of the Xperia S going by those images.

Still, I think I will stick with my Xperia S for now, and see what Sony bring to the table in early 2013.


No! Testers said, that screen on Xperia S is better the on Xperia TX!. Read about test here
http://sonyviet.vn/2012/09/man-hinh-xperia-s-vs-xperia-tx/
use translator

Posted by randomuser
^

Actually that's just the views of that site. They did not test it themselves. Those pics are taken by a Sony employee and posted on Chinese forum.

Posted by xenia
I`m really hope. I`m going to buy TX here in Russia

Posted by king-james
wow randomuser!!! what a big difference between the TX & S screen... They forgot to lay the V beside.

Posted by moogoo
Not sure if the T has a screen that is THAT much better? perhaps just better viewing angles over the S. in the straight on shot, the S seems to be the better of the two as far as brightness and sharpness. Color seems a bit better on the T but it's so dim, it's difficult to compare properly.

Posted by Big_D

On 2012-09-05 12:40:18, Xajel wrote:
^^

I have Xperia arc, and bout Xperia S to my wife and I don't have such a thing, it's HTC thing for sure.. if I clear the default then it's cleared...



Thanks, good to know. Now I don't have to worry running into that problem with Xperia.

I can't wait for the Xperia T/TX to be released. Now that knowing it will be released in the USA under AT&T, I don't have to care much about the US release and just buy the other Unlocked, region version. I'm actually liking the TX more than the T due to the removable battery, so I can get extra and not worry about stranded with a dead batt.
If it were to release at the end of Sept, normally when should the price substantially drop? a month or 2?

Posted by newnagasaki
I am still looking for someone to answer my question. I know that the T and TX have bands that support T mobile, so does that mean it will work on T mobile 3G/4G?

There is no encryption or anything I need to worry about signal wise if I buy an unlock model?


Posted by Xajel

On 2012-09-06 00:30:29, newnagasaki wrote:
I am still looking for someone to answer my question. I know that the T and TX have bands that support T mobile, so does that mean it will work on T mobile 3G/4G?

There is no encryption or anything I need to worry about signal wise if I buy an unlock model?



Both phones isn't released yet, and there's even no manual for both and as usual contacting Sony will not give you the answer ( they will say just wait until they release it for T-Mobile )... so you have to wait longer as no body knows the answer

Posted by randomuser
TX now on sale in China for 680$. Very fast release in China 1 week from announcement to availability

http://www.androidauthority.c[....]ina-price-availability-112782/

Posted by Xajel
I contacted Sony Mobile regarding the availability, they said I have to contact the regional Sony Mobile for regional specific release and cost... so I contacted Sony Mobile Middle East and she said she doesn't know this information currently but she will contact me after an hour... after 3 hours she contacted me that I have to contact our local dealer Fakhro Electronics regarding availability and pricing... but at that time I already contacted them and they don't have any idea at all depends on How Sony Mobile manage the shipments... and cost will depend on final cost for the region which they don't know yet ( Will arrive along with the shipment ). but he suspected it will arrive later this month or early next month...

Personally I don't trust them, when Xperia arc launched, they kept saying after one week, after two weeks and next month but they didn't have it till after 6 months !!, it was launched in March and they didn't have it till September !!

They just don't know but just give us time to wait and keeps you waiting while they don't know really when they will have it !!


Posted by randomuser
^
Globally the T/TX should be available by mid October. At least that's the info I have. Of course China already has it, Taiwan and Hong kong will follow and then UK/parts of Europe. In October rest of Asia, Australia, and Middle East.

Xperia TX pitch dark shot-

[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2012-09-06 15:29 ]


Posted by Lightspeed_x
Nice color rendition for the amount of light, IMO. Link to the original, please?

Posted by Indiandawg

On 2012-09-06 16:06:44, randomuser wrote:
^
Globally the T/TX should be available by mid October. At least that's the info I have. Of course China already has it, Taiwan and Hong kong will follow and then UK/parts of Europe. In October rest of Asia, Australia, and Middle East.

Xperia TX pitch dark shot-

[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2012-09-06 15:29 ]



I know this question is not suppose to be asked here but since you talking about the release time of T/TX I thought I'll ask you here itself. Do you know when is V releasing?

Posted by Miki69

On 2012-09-06 22:09:35, Lightspeed_x wrote:
Nice color rendition for the amount of light, IMO. Link to the original, please?


here you go:
http://image20.it168.com/201209_0x0/1180/6e8b58a221f30ac.jpg

rest of the pictures here:
http://translate.google.com/t[....]0904/1393/000001393486_8.shtml

Cheers,
Miki

Posted by randomuser
That pitch dark shot is taken at ISO-2000 !!

Posted by Indiandawg
Sony Xperia T Hands-On - Phones 4u
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctBE_6tgoko



Posted by moogoo
i am SO TORN!!!

i need a new phone badly.. but I can't justify spending $600 or more on a phone that i'll be very tempted to upgrade next year. the 2013 phones sound amazing even though they are still just rumors.

*pulls hair out*


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