Posted by doministry
On 2012-03-09 14:40:29, xenia wrote:
Domistri, I think you must reboot your phone. It looks like classic android bag with battery eating.
On xperiablog. net video about usbotg
You mean just turning the device on and off?
As for USB you don't get my point:
On Arc you can choose in settings if the device connects in Media Transfer mode or Mass Storage.
On X S Mass Storage is gone apparently.
Posted by xenia
On 2012-03-09 15:02:36, doministry wrote:
On 2012-03-09 14:40:29, xenia wrote:
Domistri, I think you must reboot your phone. It looks like classic android bag with battery eating.
On xperiablog. net video about usbotg
You mean just turning the device on and off?
As for USB you don't get my point:
On Arc you can choose in settings if the device connects in Media Transfer mode or Mass Storage.
On X S Mass Storage is gone apparently.
Yes. I have this problem pretty often. Just off and on. And my Arc gets full battery volume after 8-10 charging. First time I was shoked, but then pretty good lifetime.
Posted by borg_
On 2012-03-09 13:49:16, dibdin wrote:
Nice pics borg.
How are you finding those capacitive buttons?
No problems with the capacitive buttons, they work just fine
Posted by doministry
On 2012-03-09 16:13:23, xenia wrote:
On 2012-03-09 15:02:36, doministry wrote:
On 2012-03-09 14:40:29, xenia wrote:
Domistri, I think you must reboot your phone. It looks like classic android bag with battery eating.
On xperiablog. net video about usbotg
You mean just turning the device on and off?
As for USB you don't get my point:
On Arc you can choose in settings if the device connects in Media Transfer mode or Mass Storage.
On X S Mass Storage is gone apparently.
Yes. I have this problem pretty often. Just off and on. And my Arc gets full battery volume after 8-10 charging. First time I was shoked, but then pretty good lifetime.
Sounds good to me.
Hope so.
Posted by Bonovox
Hmmm,played with one of these today in Phones4U. Scrolling between home screens was choppy
Posted by doministry
Choppy is not the thing happening on my phone though.
Posted by dibdin
On 2012-03-09 17:42:07, Bonovox wrote:
Hmmm,played with one of these today in Phones4U. Scrolling between home screens was choppy
Posted by tranced
Maybe was a proto?
Posted by davidsic
Sony Xperia S vs. Samsung Galaxy S II: S-hootout -> http://www.gsmarena....-review-734.php
Posted by rickster2kuk
Re the battery drain issue, Sony seem to always have an problem with this, the X10 when it first came out drained very quickly until the first firmware release fixed it, then the Arc had the same issue with the cam module not shutting down... seems to be a bit of trait.
In terms of ICS, I agree that it would have been a smarter move for Sony to release with ICS now. The issue is that they would probably have quite a buggy version which would ultimately put consumers off. It's obvious that Sony are waiting until ICS is polished until it's released. Rumours have ranged from end of March for X S up to middle of this year. I would imagine Sony will want to get ICS out as soon as they can have a stable version as the crop of ICS models (HTC, ect) will launch in April.
Downloaded the manual out of curiosity, nothing really to note, tbh I don't even know why they bother releasing manuals these days for such a complicated and complex device - I don't think Apple do.
One thing the manual release does show is that consumer models should be hitting the shelves imminently - i.e next week fingers crossed.
Posted by DACHA
Battery drain issue?
I have 76% battery left after 6 hrs of mild uses.
Received about 10+ emails and 20+ texts, 2 short calls.
Took some pictures, full auto sync enabled for 4 accounts.
I would say that the battery life is pretty good.
Posted by Tsepz_GP
Considering GSII is a year old it still puts up quite a fight to Xperia S, very nice shootout by GSMArena there, very balanced, no biased etc...Wonder how the GS2 and Xperia S will compete once the GS3 arrives and GS2 price falls.
Posted by doministry
On 2012-03-09 20:33:18, DACHA wrote:
Battery drain issue?
I have 76% battery left after 6 hrs of mild uses.
Received about 10+ emails and 20+ texts, 2 short calls.
Took some pictures, full auto sync enabled for 4 accounts.
I would say that the battery life is pretty good.
Than do others make a mistake?
Do you have Sony weather widgets on screen?
I can't make it work that good.
Posted by Arne Anka
USB OTG demo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?[....]Olk2po&feature=player_embedded
Posted by rickster2kuk
On 2012-03-09 20:41:05, Tsepz_GP wrote:
Considering GSII is a year old it still puts up quite a fight to Xperia S, very nice shootout by GSMArena there, very balanced, no biased etc...Wonder how the GS2 and Xperia S will compete once the GS3 arrives and GS2 price falls.
The camera review was also very in depth and balanced, not like Engadet's where they seem to think the Apple iPhone 4's camera is the greatest every invented.
Posted by DACHA
On 2012-03-09 20:46:02, doministry wrote:
On 2012-03-09 20:33:18, DACHA wrote:
Battery drain issue?
I have 76% battery left after 6 hrs of mild uses.
Received about 10+ emails and 20+ texts, 2 short calls.
Took some pictures, full auto sync enabled for 4 accounts.
I would say that the battery life is pretty good.
Than do others make a mistake?
Do you have Sony weather widgets on screen?
I can't make it work that good.
I got the weather widget, set to update every hr.
Timescape widget is also running with the YouTube widget and the calender widget.
Posted by dibdin
Apart from the weather widget looking visually very nice, would some of you say it's better than most weather widgets out there?
Posted by Bonovox
Yes the new weather widget is nice but the new music player one looks boring compared to old widget
Posted by Tsepz_GP
On 2012-03-09 20:57:01, rickster2kuk wrote:
On 2012-03-09 20:41:05, Tsepz_GP wrote:
Considering GSII is a year old it still puts up quite a fight to Xperia S, very nice shootout by GSMArena there, very balanced, no biased etc...Wonder how the GS2 and Xperia S will compete once the GS3 arrives and GS2 price falls.
The camera review was also very in depth and balanced, not like Engadet's where they seem to think the Apple iPhone 4's camera is the greatest every invented.
Indeed!
I no longer even bother to check Engadget's reviews, to them the Steve Jobs is God and the iPhone is the Jesus piece. Realy is annoying when they tout iPhone4 as having the best Camera when WE ALL KNOW that is far from the actual truth, i always just wait for GSMArena to do a review, they have remained so reliable, balanced and honest from the get go, many networks here use GSMArena to help you compare phones at their stores. They have actualy made it hard to trust other review sites, lol.
Posted by Luci'sPower
iphone 4s haves the SE Arc(not arc s) sensor......!!
Posted by doministry
On 2012-03-09 20:59:01, DACHA wrote:
On 2012-03-09 20:46:02, doministry wrote:
On 2012-03-09 20:33:18, DACHA wrote:
Battery drain issue?
I have 76% battery left after 6 hrs of mild uses.
Received about 10+ emails and 20+ texts, 2 short calls.
Took some pictures, full auto sync enabled for 4 accounts.
I would say that the battery life is pretty good.
Than do others make a mistake?
Do you have Sony weather widgets on screen?
I can't make it work that good.
I got the weather widget, set to update every hr.
Timescape widget is also running with the YouTube widget and the calender widget.
Ok. Than I don't know. My phone has Data, WiFi and Bluetooth off on idle.
And just in the pocket, through few hours, 2 or 3 maybe, it sucks 3 or 4%.
With identical usage pattern on Arc, without
widgets though but with the same apps
I get much better results.
Posted by Bonovox
But you need to give the battery a few charge cycles first.Am I right?? But I do fear the 1,750mAh battery or whatever the capacity is will not be enough to power that HD screen & dual core for long
Posted by doministry
On 2012-03-09 23:28:12, Bonovox wrote:
But you need to give the battery a few charge cycles first.Am I right?? But I do fear the 1,750mAh battery or whatever the capacity is will not be enough to power that HD screen & dual core for long
I believe it will be enough. It's more than Arc, double core is at times - AFAIK - less power hungry.
But let's see how is it after a week.
P.S. One more good thing:
Gallery shows real pictures, not renders.
Posted by Arne Anka
On 2012-03-09 23:01:11, doministry wrote:
With identical usage pattern on Arc, without
widgets though but with the same apps
I get much better results.
Install CPU Spy and see how much the CPU is working. If it does not show Deep Sleep with a value like 85% or above when used lighty, then something is wrong with your software.
Posted by doministry
On 2012-03-09 23:48:08, Arne Anka wrote:
On 2012-03-09 23:01:11, doministry wrote:
With identical usage pattern on Arc, without
widgets though but with the same apps
I get much better results.
Install CPU Spy and see how much the CPU is working. If it does not show Deep Sleep with a value like 85% or above when used lighty, then something is wrong with your software.
Ok will check it now.
It shows Deep Sleep Value 67%.
[ This Message was edited by: doministry on 2012-03-09 23:06 ]
Posted by Arne Anka
Seems your battery drain is software related. A couple of pages back I reported that an XDA member reported the battery went up once FourSquare was uninstalled. Perhaps you should try that. You also reported that Picasa got stuck in some way. This could be a possible issue as well It is possible it constantly tries to reconnect or sync.
Perhaps you could try to restore the software of the phone and then just leave it as is without trying to sync your calendar, contacts etc for a while and see how it goes with the battery.
Posted by doministry
On 2012-03-10 08:56:17, Arne Anka wrote:
Seems your battery drain is software related. A couple of pages back I reported that an XDA member reported the battery went up once FourSquare was uninstalled. Perhaps you should try that. You also reported that Picasa got stuck in some way. This could be a possible issue as well It is possible it constantly tries to reconnect or sync.
Perhaps you could try to restore the software of the phone and then just leave it as is without trying to sync your calendar, contacts etc for a while and see how it goes with the battery.
Picasa sync problem is resolved so no prob here.
I don't use any auto sync and I've never used Foursquare.
After the night the value of deep sleep was 88%.
Now I just use my phone for 5 minutes and it's still 87%.
I guess it's exactly what you were asking about.....
I left only one weather widget on homescreen with very long auto update period, we'll see.
Posted by argiriano
@doministry did you discharge your battery compleatly for once or twice?
I have battery problems with Ray even after 10 charges when others reported great battery life. Then I waith for full discharge followed by more than 8h charge cycle and battery life was doubled immediately.
I thought that was old unnecessary trick these days, but it works.
I have no idea about mistery draining, but it`s more often software or network related you know.
Posted by doministry
On 2012-03-10 11:36:11, argiriano wrote:
@doministry did you discharge your battery compleatly for once or twice?
I have battery problems with Ray even after 10 charges when others reported great battery life. Then I waith for full discharge followed by more than 8h charge cycle and battery life was doubled immediately.
I thought that was old unnecessary trick these days, but it works.
I have no idea about mistery draining, but it`s more often software or network related you know.
Actually yes I did discharge it once by accident.
Maybe I'll try to discharge it completley than charge it for hours
I don't know...
Posted by rickster2kuk
I see Amazon UK have pushed back thier stock until 19th March. Hope this means it's not delayed again for the UK.
Posted by dibdin
Oh dear. I am thinking if Clove put it back to the 19th that I just go to phones4u and buy it simfree from them instead.
Posted by rickster2kuk
Yeah I'm hoping its just Amazon. O2 and Three both had them in stock, but I've pre ordered with Clove.
Had a quick play with the one in the Three shop; very slick, screen is stunning and I even didn't have any issues with the capacitive buttons.
Weight and size also surprised me: I didn't feel as heavy in the hand as I expected and wasn't too bulky.
Posted by dibdin
On 2012-03-10 13:46:21, rickster2kuk wrote:
Yeah I'm hoping its just Amazon. O2 and Three both had them in stock, but I've pre ordered with Clove.
Had a quick play with the one in the Three shop; very slick, screen is stunning and I even didn't have any issues with the capacitive buttons.
Weight and size also surprised me: I didn't feel as heavy in the hand as I expected and wasn't too bulky.
Posted by rickster2kuk
I think you'll need to ring them. I've pre-ordered and to make matters worse, they've already charged my credit card (which I think is a bit cheeky). If they tell me on Monday it's delayed again, I will think about getting a refund.
O2 SIM free was £399, Three was £369, but bear-in-mind that you have to top up with £10 on each and then get it unlocked.
Phones4U didn't have any live demo phones.
I don't know what one Bono saw but the demo one I played with was silky smooth.
Posted by dibdin
On 2012-03-10 14:53:50, rickster2kuk wrote:
I think you'll need to ring them. I've pre-ordered and to make matters worse, they've already charged my credit card (which I think is a bit cheeky). If they tell me on Monday it's delayed again, I will think about getting a refund.
O2 SIM free was £399, Three was £369, but bear-in-mind that you have to top up with £10 on each and then get it unlocked.
Phones4U didn't have any live demo phones.
I don't know what one Bono saw but the demo one I played with was silky smooth.
Posted by Bonovox
It was laggy. Anyway I have ordered stuff with Clove before and you have to call them and they I think send you a cancellation email with a link
Posted by rickster2kuk
Dibdin - I may do the same see what happens on Monday. £399 SIM free is very good, no sure if they would prioritise contract customers first or tell you it's not available yet SIM free, that's been my experience with those type of retailers.
Posted by dibdin
On 2012-03-10 15:30:59, rickster2kuk wrote:
Dibdin - I may do the same see what happens on Monday. £399 SIM free is very good, no sure if they would prioritise contract customers first or tell you it's not available yet SIM free, that's been my experience with those type of retailers.
[ This Message was edited by: dibdin on 2012-03-10 14:43 ]
Posted by doministry
My only concern is still the battery.
Otherwise it works great.
Has no lags.
[ This Message was edited by: doministry on 2012-03-10 15:10 ]
Posted by Tsepz_GP
Thats excellent doministry.
If there is one thing i havent heard about in Xperia S is any sort of lag, nobody (reviewers, users, demo etc...) have said anything about lag, seems Sony did a great job with software optimization in the Xperia S, i hope LG and HTC do the same in their new phones as their flagships last year had lag issues and even the single-core Arc out performed them at some points.
Posted by doministry
On 2012-03-10 16:45:58, Tsepz_GP wrote:
Thats excellent doministry.
If there is one thing i havent heard about in Xperia S is any sort of lag, nobody (reviewers, users, demo etc...) have said anything about lag, seems Sony did a great job with software optimization in the Xperia S, i hope LG and HTC do the same in their new phones as their flagships last year had lag issues and even the single-core Arc out performed them at some points.
Well it's true.
But I want a good battery life otherwise the whole experience is spoiled.
Yes it has no lag and it's really fluent. No complaints here.
Posted by worf1000
On 2012-03-10 16:09:50, doministry wrote:
My only concern is still the battery.
Otherwise it works great.
Has no lags.
[ This Message was edited by: doministry on 2012-03-10 15:10 ]
I think you have a bad battery and go for a switch.
Posted by doministry
On 2012-03-10 19:00:55, worf1000 wrote:
On 2012-03-10 16:09:50, doministry wrote:
My only concern is still the battery.
Otherwise it works great.
Has no lags.
[ This Message was edited by: doministry on 2012-03-10 15:10 ]
I think you have a bad battery and go for a switch.
Some others also report this problem.
Battery behaves normal just drains.
In Settings screen uses like 85% of the energy BTW.
Posted by worf1000
On 2012-03-10 22:26:15, doministry wrote:
On 2012-03-10 19:00:55, worf1000 wrote:
On 2012-03-10 16:09:50, doministry wrote:
My only concern is still the battery.
Otherwise it works great.
Has no lags.
[ This Message was edited by: doministry on 2012-03-10 15:10 ]
I think you have a bad battery and go for a switch.
Some others also report this problem.
Battery behaves normal just drains.
In Settings screen uses like 85% of the energy BTW.
I have had the same problem as you, so i send i back and get a new one and way better with the battery life than i fist had.
I strongly advice to switch for another battery just what i did. I think your device has a battery problem so switch to another phone is only option you have.
Posted by HxH
Here some samples
http://www.mxphone.net/110312-sample-camera-sony-xperia-s/
Posted by rickster2kuk
The outdoor ones in sunlight look really nice at fit to view, yes a little noisy at full crop but zoomed out they are lovely.
Posted by tai020381
Noise seems to be lesser than previous shots for indoor shots! New firmware?
Posted by doministry
On 2012-03-10 23:48:03, worf1000 wrote:
On 2012-03-10 22:26:15, doministry wrote:
On 2012-03-10 19:00:55, worf1000 wrote:
On 2012-03-10 16:09:50, doministry wrote:
My only concern is still the battery.
Otherwise it works great.
Has no lags.
I think you have a bad battery and go for a switch.
Some others also report this problem.
Battery behaves normal just drains.
In Settings screen uses like 85% of the energy BTW.
I have had the same problem as you, so i send i back and get a new one and way better with the battery life than i fist had.
I strongly advice to switch for another battery just what i did. I think your device has a battery problem so switch to another phone is only option you have.
Well I will observe it further for few a days.
Some users claim the batt usage settles down after some time.
[ This Message was edited by: doministry on 2012-03-11 21:05 ]
Posted by worf1000
On 2012-03-11 22:03:45, doministry wrote:
On 2012-03-10 23:48:03, worf1000 wrote:
On 2012-03-10 22:26:15, doministry wrote:
On 2012-03-10 19:00:55, worf1000 wrote:
On 2012-03-10 16:09:50, doministry wrote:
My only concern is still the battery.
Otherwise it works great.
Has no lags.
I think you have a bad battery and go for a switch.
Some others also report this problem.
Battery behaves normal just drains.
In Settings screen uses like 85% of the energy BTW.
I have had the same problem as you, so i send i back and get a new one and way better with the battery life than i fist had.
I strongly advice to switch for another battery just what i did. I think your device has a battery problem so switch to another phone is only option you have.
Well I will observe it further for few a days.
Some users claim the batt usage settles down after some time.
[ This Message was edited by: doministry on 2012-03-11 21:05 ]
I wish you good luck with that, the Xperia S is very good phone for me it is perfect i know what you dealing with it.
I hope your phone get strong battery life after days, just rain the battery until empty and than put on for at least 5 a 6 hours and then drain it until the phone get off and loading for a another 5 a 6 hours and than check it out if it helped that way
Posted by doministry
On 2012-03-11 23:08:31, worf1000 wrote:
I wish you good luck with that, the Xperia S is very good phone for me it is perfect i know what you dealing with it.
I hope your phone get strong battery life after days, just rain the battery until empty and than put on for at least 5 a 6 hours and then drain it until the phone get off and loading for a another 5 a 6 hours and than check it out if it helped that way
I will do that. Xperia S is brilliant.
[ This Message was edited by: doministry on 2012-03-11 23:00 ]