Posted by Bonovox
For details I prefer the Nokia but the Nokia is lacking a slight contrast & less colours but is more natural. And the N8 can do better than that.
[ This Message was edited by: Bonovox on 2012-03-02 20:02 ]
Posted by rickster2kuk
Xperia S still keeps that Sony trait of being quite noisy with the sharpening algorithm like the Arc. That said, focus colour and contrast are really nice.
I suppose it depends what you like, I prefer the smoothness of the close up detail on the N8 but then again it's a little dark.
Posted by Bonovox
Never had N8 photos come out that dark on auto when I had it even in poor lighting
Posted by rickster2kuk
Had a better chance to look at some of the photos on GSMArena review and PhoneArena.
Yes, at full crop they do exhibit that sony noisiness but at scale to fit I am impressed, they do look nice. I would say that jump from 8 - 12mpx is probably hiding some of the close up noise and I also have a feeling that it may have been dialled down a tad. I would say the upgraded cam appears to be definitely worth it.
Had a chance to look at the dummy white version in Phones4U at lunch, wasn't sold on the white version (glad I've preordered the black), as Bono said with the Matt back it going to get a bit grubby, also the white frame around the front makes it look a little odd.
It is definitely design wise a 'different' phone from the Arc, more substantial in the hand and slab like, although it's curved at the back. It was difficult to judge weight (as it was on a silly spring loaded wire) but it didn't feel too heavy in the hand. Capacitive buttons seem fairly easy to press one handed as they are positioned well.
I overlaid my Arc and it's only a fraction wider than the Arc (although it's longer).
Posted by rikken
Does everybody really find these pictures impressive ?
I actually prefer the design of the Arc over the X S
Posted by dibdin
I have to agree, when I held the dummy version in my hand it was surprisingly light, lighter than I expected for it's size, that said I really like the overall size and look of the device. Have to say I like the white Xperia S even more after seeing the dummy one in phones4u.
Posted by Bonovox
Yes,at full size they do look ok like the Arc/Arc S just not a massive improvement over them in my eyes really. I am not saying at all they are awful but not a huge leap. I also hope the anti stain thing does work well especially on the white. But I prefer the Xperia P with the aluminium
Posted by owlsfan_72
On 2012-03-02 13:12:00, Bonovox wrote:
http://www.buymobilephones.net are doing the Xperia S for £21.50 per month on O2. Had an email from them this morning saying the Xperia S is here!!
Don't buy from buymobilephones.net - I saw the email about them having it in stock, so ordered on the website. It said available but yet I've just had an email saying they'll contact me in 10-15days when it's in stock. Shysters.
Posted by Bonovox
Oh dear & they won so called awards for their website
Posted by worf1000
On 2012-03-02 21:01:33, Bonovox wrote:
For details I prefer the Nokia but the Nokia is lacking a slight contrast & less colours but is more natural. And the N8 can do better than that.
[ This Message was edited by: Bonovox on 2012-03-02 20:02 ]
I think your problem is you won't amids that the picture from Xperia S look better than that from N8
The picture form the N8 looks not real color, the picture fom the Xperia S has better real color and sharper than N8
Posted by Arne Anka
On 2012-03-02 17:47:32, Bonovox wrote:
And would it not wear out over time??
Well, its not just an ordinary painting. Its made of nano technolgy, which I believe should be pretty sturdy.
On 2012-03-02 17:47:32, Bonovox wrote:
The Phone Arena review says the anti stain coating never worked.
The coating is UV active i.e. you have to expose it for UV light (such as sun rays) to loose up dried soil as I understand it. This is high tech you know, not just simple paint.
).
Yet another review.
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/03/01/24-hours-with-the-xperia-s/
[ This Message was edited by: Arne Anka on 2012-03-02 22:45 ]
Posted by Bonovox
On 2012-03-02 22:57:22, worf1000 wrote:
On 2012-03-02 21:01:33, Bonovox wrote:
For details I prefer the Nokia but the Nokia is lacking a slight contrast & less colours but is more natural. And the N8 can do better than that.
[ This Message was edited by: Bonovox on 2012-03-02 20:02 ]
I think your problem is you won't amids that the picture from Xperia S look better than that from N8
The picture form the N8 looks not real color, the picture fom the Xperia S has better real color and sharper than N8
Nope. That's what you want me to admit. But I still think the n8 is better & does take better pics than that shown. Goodnight
Posted by doministry
N8 photo looks like crap compared to XS.
Especially when you look at it normally/fullscreen.
N8 is washed & unreal.
Posted by Arne Anka
Some more snaps taken by a Swedish user (no, its not out yet, but some gets lucky earlier than others nd its not me
)
http://www.ladda-upp.com/bilder/64882/xperia-s (indoor)
http://www.ladda-upp.com/bilder/64883/xperia-s (taken in a dark staircase)
http://www.ladda-upp.com/bilder/64884/xperia-s (indoor)
Posted by Bonovox
I wonder if Laffen got his hands on one??
Posted by smclion102
Sony/
engineers have done great job with the S3+2.3 OS already,
But I want to Know will ICS give much better boost in performance or will it be rather same or just little better??
Posted by gabbyevs
On 2012-03-02 22:27:29, owlsfan_72 wrote:
On 2012-03-02 13:12:00, Bonovox wrote:
http://www.buymobilephones.net are doing the Xperia S for £21.50 per month on O2. Had an email from them this morning saying the Xperia S is here!!
Don't buy from buymobilephones.net - I saw the email about them having it in stock, so ordered on the website. It said available but yet I've just had an email saying they'll contact me in 10-15days when it's in stock. Shysters.
to be fair it does say when you order it expected arrival 6 march i think when they meant its here they meant come and look at it on our page
Posted by Tsepz_GP
On 2012-03-03 00:08:20, Bonovox wrote:
On 2012-03-02 22:57:22, worf1000 wrote:
On 2012-03-02 21:01:33, Bonovox wrote:
For details I prefer the Nokia but the Nokia is lacking a slight contrast & less colours but is more natural. And the N8 can do better than that.
[ This Message was edited by: Bonovox on 2012-03-02 20:02 ]
I think your problem is you won't amids that the picture from Xperia S look better than that from N8
The picture form the N8 looks not real color, the picture fom the Xperia S has better real color and sharper than N8
Nope. That's what you want me to admit. But I still think the n8 is better & does take better pics than that shown. Goodnight
The N8 does indeed take better pics overall, in most situationst it blows the XS out the water despite being almost 2years older, no point in comparing them though, the N8's successor has arrived (808 PureView), thats what XS should be compared to, why arent we seeing comparisons of that? Guess its obvious which would win
and it aint the XS.
Good that Sony are releasing XS now as it is already outdated when compared to its competition.
Posted by Benares
Hi.
I'm afraid to say I haven't got much time to properly test the Xperia S. I'm trying to get some time and record a video so you can see how really good the screen is, and if there really is an issue with the 3 screen buttons.
For the time now, here you have 3 photo samples I took yesterday with the quick load and shoot camera option. Considering my previous phone, I think they are really good.
As for the music player, I have found it quite simple, and a little boring. (My previous phone was a Samsung Wave, it has BADA Os and I think the music player its much better). The music quality I think it's pretty much the same as any other phone. It will depen on the earphone you use (In my opinion).
About the touch buttons on the bottom, I haven't got anyproblem with them. You have to get use to touch the white dots, instead of the cristal icons on the transparent antena. You have to use the base of your finger, not the nails, and with a little preassure they work fine. At least for me.
Will keep testing the phone and sharing my opinions with all you.
Laters...
Benares
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/7934/dsc00041tr.jpg
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/408/dsc00031tl.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/20/dsc00021an.jpg/
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Posted by rickster2kuk
Pureview is amazing but it's on Symbian - it's like have a quad core VCR player in todays age.
Regarding specs, I'll say it again, only the geeks care about whether it has S3 or S4 or Adreno so and so, the average consumer doesn't care, they just want a fast, fluid experience, and a device that looks good.
[ This Message was edited by: rickster2kuk on 2012-03-03 10:05 ]
Posted by dibdin
On 2012-03-03 11:00:10, rickster2kuk wrote:
Pureview is amazing but it's on Symbian - it's like have a quad core VCR player in todays age.
Regarding specs, I'll say it again, only the geeks care about whether it has S3 or S4 or Adreno so and so, the average consumer doesn't care, they just want a fast, fluid experience, and a device that looks good.
[ This Message was edited by: rickster2kuk on 2012-03-03 10:05 ]
Posted by xenia
On 2012-03-03 10:59:51, Benares wrote:
Hi.
I'm afraid to say I haven't got much time to properly test the Xperia S. I'm trying to get some time and record a video so you can see how really good the screen is, and if there really is an issue with the 3 screen buttons.
For the time now, here you have 3 photo samples I took yesterday with the quick load and shoot camera option. Considering my previous phone, I think they are really good.
As for the music player, I have found it quite simple, and a little boring. (My previous phone was a Samsung Wave, it has BADA Os and I think the music player its much better). The music quality I think it's pretty much the same as any other phone. It will depen on the earphone you use (In my opinion).
About the touch buttons on the bottom, I haven't got anyproblem with them. You have to get use to touch the white dots, instead of the cristal icons on the transparent antena. You have to use the base of your finger, not the nails, and with a little preassure they work fine. At least for me.
Will keep testing the phone and sharing my opinions with all you.
[ This Message was edited by: Benares on 2012-03-03 10:00 ]
How about call volume? Is it good?
Posted by Bonovox
Xperia Blog said call volume was low
Posted by randomuser
On 2012-03-03 12:00:00, Bonovox wrote:
Xperia Blog said call volume was low
They only said they FELT that way but are not sure. PhoneArena stated in call volume is loud and clear on both sides and noise cancellation works like a charm as well.
Posted by Arne Anka
On 2012-03-03 12:00:00, Bonovox wrote:
Xperia Blog said call volume was low
http://www.phonearena.com/rev[....]-Xperia-S-Review_id2970/page/4
Call quality with the Xperia S is very good, with loud and clear voices in the earpiece on our end, while the other side said we sounded very clean, with strong volume, and the noise-canceling mics managed to weed out the ambient sounds while we were talking.
http://forum2.mobile-review.c[....]6-I-got-my-Xperia-S-yesterday.
Speaker is very loud, after taking my first phone call with Xperia S I thought it was at maximum volume and it turns out to be only at 60%, I had to turn it at 50% now. Headset volume is clear and loud, I checked the default setting. It was only at about 70% and I have already felt enough.
Posted by Bonovox
Sometimes in any phone I find certain calls are quieter than others anyway. My Arc S is chrystal clear. Same with the Ray one of the best call quality I have heard
Posted by doministry
On 2012-03-03 11:00:10, rickster2kuk wrote:
Pureview is amazing but it's on Symbian - it's like have a quad core VCR player in todays age.
Regarding specs, I'll say it again, only the geeks care about whether it has S3 or S4 or Adreno so and so, the average consumer doesn't care, they just want a fast, fluid experience, and a device that looks good.
[ This Message was edited by: rickster2kuk on 2012-03-03 10:05 ]
Exactly. As well as we need hightech, I don't think rushing things makes sense.
Quadcore will be a standard in a year or so. I think most of software doesn't utilize
even dualcore properly.
As for comparison with this Nokia Pureview:
12mpx against 41mpx? Nokia's photos take about 10MB each..... Idiotic comparison.
On the other hand, this Nokia seems like a crappy phone overall, both design and OS wise.
Posted by mode
On 2012-03-02 21:21:50, Bonovox wrote:
Never had N8 photos come out that dark on auto when I had it even in poor lighting
Actually, I know for a fact that some of the N8's best photographers would have to increase its EV for the best results. I find it the opposite with SE cams whereby lowering EV helps get better contrast and overall quality.
Posted by HxH
One on xperiablog could possibly not final retail unit, my guess?
Posted by Supa_Fly
Ok now I'm going to sound whiney.
Port flaps will seriously annoying but what will annoy these users of the "S" is no dock - I see this more prevalent to USA/N.American users more. I may just get the Ion and take off the port flaps but I'm really liking the XS more.
Posted by Bonovox
As for port flaps I wish others would do what Samsung does they use a slider lock over the ports
Posted by HxH
Regard to port's cover, I wish they will follow by Nokia N9's mechanism on the top (I think it sim's tray) which very well done.
Posted by yuunanase
Having using the Xperia NX for the past week, I could say that it is really the true successor of X10. Why? Because it inherrits all the bugs of the X10!
1. Low in call volume - it is very true, much worse than the Arc
2. The flip of the USB port.
3. I have the charging problem once again. Sometimes, it discharges much more quickly than it charges.
4. It is really hard to find the touch sensitive buttons in the dark. I know, the bar does light up, but not until you have actually toched the buttons.
NX does NOT have NFC, so I could not test it.
Posted by Bonovox
oh dear
Posted by worf1000
On 2012-03-03 20:50:44, yuunanase wrote:
Having using the Xperia NX for the past week, I could say that it is really the true successor of X10. Why? Because it inherrits all the bugs of the X10!
1. Low in call volume - it is very true, much worse than the Arc
2. The flip of the USB port.
3. I have the charging problem once again. Sometimes, it discharges much more quickly than it charges.
4. It is really hard to find the touch sensitive buttons in the dark. I know, the bar does light up, but not until you have actually toched the buttons.
NX does NOT have NFC, so I could not test it.
1 Low in call volume - it is very true, much worse than the Arc: I have no problem with that (it's a isolated problem) to me.
2 The flip of the USB port: That's a personal opinion.
3. I have the charging problem once again. Sometimes, it discharges much more quickly than it charges: I have no problem with that.
4 It is really hard to find the touch sensitive buttons in the dark. I know, the bar does light up, but not until you have actually toched the buttons: I agree with some point, but i already used to it.
It sounds you have a personal issue and mebay a isolated bugs.
Posted by idumbakumar
On 2012-03-03 00:08:20, Bonovox wrote:
On 2012-03-02 22:57:22, worf1000 wrote:
On 2012-03-02 21:01:33, Bonovox wrote:
For details I prefer the Nokia but the Nokia is lacking a slight contrast & less colours but is more natural. And the N8 can do better than that.
[ This Message was edited by: Bonovox on 2012-03-02 20:02 ]
I think your problem is you won't amids that the picture from Xperia S look better than that from N8
The picture form the N8 looks not real color, the picture fom the Xperia S has better real color and sharper than N8
Nope. That's what you want me to admit. But I still think the n8 is better & does take better pics than that shown. Goodnight
I don't like N8 all the time. it struggle to focus for macro shots. and controls are bad.. sometime I love to use my c905. n8 has good hardware but the controls and usability is bad.
however sony really has to improve a lot. sony phones are still equal or lose in tiny margin. they have to wipe off from the competitions all phones.
Posted by Arne Anka
On 2012-03-03 20:50:44, yuunanase wrote:
NX does NOT have NFC, so I could not test it.
Are you sure you have the retail version ? Because all reviewers and users as far as I know have been able to use NFC with no issues.
[ This Message was edited by: Arne Anka on 2012-03-04 01:56 ]
Posted by Supa_Fly
ST Ericsson Nova A9600, the Cortex A15 chip of choice!
Source: http://www.stericsson.com/press_releases/NovaThor.jsp
Date: February 15, 2011
ST-Ericsson’s new Nova A9600 brings over 200 percent more mobile computing performance compared to the U8500 platform. It features the industry’s best and most efficient low-power implementation known today of a dual ARM® Cortex- A15 MPCore™ with each core running up to 2.5GHz thanks to very innovative power saving techniques to be disclosed later this year.
“As the selection of advanced smartphones and tablets increases we see the need for a wider range of performance points to be addressed,” said Mike Inglis, EVP and general manager of the ARM Processor Division, “This announcement shows the performance that can be achieved by combining the Cortex-A15 processor with integrated LTE modems.”
The Nova A9600 will be the first platform announced to incorporate Imagination Technologies next generation of graphics processors, codenamed Rogue, which will set a new performance bar for GPUs at mobile power consumption levels. The Nova A9600 will bring more than a 20-fold improvement in graphics performance compared with the U8500 platform.
“POWERVR Series6, codenamed ‘Rogue’, moves the goalposts in terms of graphics performance and efficiency at low power consumption for next generation mobile.” said Hossein Yassaie, CEO of Imagination Technologies. “We are delighted to be working with ST-Ericsson on such a groundbreaking product.”
The Nova A9600 will also be able to play full HD video at 120 frames per second, supporting professional camcorder-quality recording in 3D, as well as high definition videoconferencing and tele-presence.
“As the selection of advanced smartphones and tablets increases we see the need for a wider range of performance points to be addressed,” said Mike Inglis, EVP and general manager of the ARM Processor Division, “This announcement shows the performance that can be achieved by combining the Cortex-A15 processor with integrated LTE modems.”
The Nova A9600 will be the first platform announced to incorporate Imagination Technologies next generation of graphics processors, codenamed Rogue, which will set a new performance bar for GPUs at mobile power consumption levels. The Nova A9600 will bring more than a 20-fold improvement in graphics performance compared with the U8500 platform.
“POWERVR Series6, codenamed ‘Rogue’, moves the goalposts in terms of graphics performance and efficiency at low power consumption for next generation mobile.” said Hossein Yassaie, CEO of Imagination Technologies. “We are delighted to be working with ST-Ericsson on such a groundbreaking product.”
The Nova A9600 will also be able to play full HD video at 120 frames per second, supporting professional camcorder-quality recording in 3D, as well as high definition videoconferencing and tele-presence.
now .... it makes me wonder why the Xperia ION, Xperia P or U did NOT have the following CPU? Does anyone really think the engineering/marketing decision to go with the U8500 vs the 9500/9540 had to do with cost or chp availability?
ST-Ericsson also unveiled the Nova A9540, a dual-core ARM Cortex- A9-based processor, with each core operating at up to 1.8 GHz, and the Nova A9500, a dual-core ARM Cortex- A9-based processor, running at 1.2 GHz. The Nova A9540 delivers a four times improvement in graphics performance compared with the current generation, while the A9500 delivers state-of-the-art graphic capabilities on mobile devices.
The Nova A9540, built in 32nm, uses a dual-core Cortex-A9 running at up to 1.8 GHz and delivers graphics performance up to four times that of the U8500 and is sampling H2 2011.
The Nova A9500, built in 45 nm, uses a dual-core Cortex-A9 running at clock speeds of up to 1.2GHz, with Mali™ 400 improving graphics performance up to 20 percent, supporting full HD camcorder capabilities and up to 20 megapixel cameras. It is sampling and in design with ST-Ericsson customers today.
The Nova A9540, built in 32nm, uses a dual-core Cortex-A9 running at up to 1.8 GHz and delivers graphics performance up to four times that of the U8500 and is sampling H2 2011.
The Nova A9500, built in 45 nm, uses a dual-core Cortex-A9 running at clock speeds of up to 1.2GHz, with Mali™ 400 improving graphics performance up to 20 percent, supporting full HD camcorder capabilities and up to 20 megapixel cameras. It is sampling and in design with ST-Ericsson customers today.
(this means the Noa A9500 should deliver 20% more graphics performance than the U8500 used in the Xperia P & U ... but BOTH use the Mali 400; so how can it do it?)
Something MORE:
Source: http://www.itproportal.com/20[....]-a15-40-cent-faster-cortex-a9/
Date: 14 March, 2011
We've received an email from ARM that confirms that the Cortex-A15 will be at least 40 per cent faster than the A9 when it comes to raw performance (Dhrystone MIPS), all things equal; same number of core, same speed.
The Cortex-A8 reached 2.0 DMIPS/MHz while the Cortex-A9 reached 2.5 DMIPS/MHz, a 25 per cent improvement. According to our contact at ARM, the A15 has a "published but not formal number" of 3.5 DMIPS/MHz but told us that the performance difference across generation is "dependent on many factors" before adding that "Other benchmarks can show less improvement on specific devices, others a greater improvement.
The 25 per cent performance improvement roughly ties up with the preliminary benchmark results reported by Nvidia and by Anandtech, which means that ARM is deliberately being conservative when it comes to benchmark figures.
What's more we already know of at least one manufacturer who has published benchmark figures for the Cortex-A15; Last month at the Mobile World Congress in Barcelona, ST-Ericsson revealed that its new system on Chip, the Nova A9600, would have two Cortex-A15 core, runs at 2.5GHz and, more importantly, breaks the 20,000 DMIPS barrier.
This means that the ST-Ericsson's tweaked implementation of the Cortex-A15 can reach at least 4.01 DMIPS/MHz, which is itself a 14 per cent improvement upon what ARM's figures.
The Cortex-A8 reached 2.0 DMIPS/MHz while the Cortex-A9 reached 2.5 DMIPS/MHz, a 25 per cent improvement. According to our contact at ARM, the A15 has a "published but not formal number" of 3.5 DMIPS/MHz but told us that the performance difference across generation is "dependent on many factors" before adding that "Other benchmarks can show less improvement on specific devices, others a greater improvement.
The 25 per cent performance improvement roughly ties up with the preliminary benchmark results reported by Nvidia and by Anandtech, which means that ARM is deliberately being conservative when it comes to benchmark figures.
What's more we already know of at least one manufacturer who has published benchmark figures for the Cortex-A15; Last month at the Mobile World Congress in Barcelona, ST-Ericsson revealed that its new system on Chip, the Nova A9600, would have two Cortex-A15 core, runs at 2.5GHz and, more importantly, breaks the 20,000 DMIPS barrier.
This means that the ST-Ericsson's tweaked implementation of the Cortex-A15 can reach at least 4.01 DMIPS/MHz, which is itself a 14 per cent improvement upon what ARM's figures.
Most impressive!
So is the rumored Hiyabusa going to use the Nova A9600?!
Posted by DACHA
@Prom1
It has been reported numerous tines that the A9600 has been pushed back to 2013. It will be sampled in late Q2 or early Q3 2012.
I think that Sony might use the A9600 for the 2013 phones.
Posted by rss_ndrsn
^Nova A9600 will not be ready by 1Q next year so we will not see a device with this in it. For the Nova A9500, we might see a device with it at the end of the year. I think it is not really because of cost cutting reason why Sony has not released a smartphone with one of those SOCs but because of them availability.
Though one thing is for sure, Sony is going to released a smartphone next year with quad-core Snapdragon S4.
Posted by Supa_Fly
On 2012-03-04 05:16:09, DACHA wrote:
@Prom1
It has been reported numerous tines that the A9600 has been pushed back to 2013. It will be sampled in late Q2 or early Q3 2012.
I think that Sony might use the A9600 for the 2013 phones.
I'm curious where this numerous reports comes from as the manufacturer or news sources haven't publicly stated it that I can find on a google search.
Posted by rss_ndrsn
^Here's one: http://www.anandtech.com/show[....]s4-msm8960-krait-architecture. Just look at the table.
Posted by Arne Anka
Judging by that table I would guess Krait is the SoC Sony will be using during the second half this year.
Posted by dibdin
Buggar...Clove have now changed the release date for both black and white from the 5th to the 12th March.
Posted by Dummaari
so sad. i was hoping clove will ship today. preordered last week..
Posted by argiriano
On 2012-03-04 05:17:46, rss_ndrsn wrote:
^Nova A9600 will not be ready by 1Q next year so we will not see a device with this in it. For the Nova A9500, we might see a device with it at the end of the year. I think it is not really because of cost cutting reason why Sony has not released a smartphone with one of those SOCs but because of them availability.
Though one thing is for sure, Sony is going to released a smartphone next year with quad-core Snapdragon S4.
ST-Ericsson press @MWC sad SoC L9600 (A9600 Nova processor + M74xx Thor modem) sampled to vendors in H2 2012. It was showed in roadmap with newest L8540 chip.
But I can agree Sony will use Qualcomm S4 for flagships and NovaThor (maybe L8540) for mid and low range devices.
[ This Message was edited by: argiriano on 2012-03-05 12:55 ]
Posted by gabbyevs
just heard sim frees been put back- i wonder why?
p4u always told me next week so i was ok but just wonder if they were epxecting shipment sooner and didnt get it?
Posted by doministry
Mine is waiting for me!
Getting this tomorrow, expect feedback!
Posted by dibdin
On 2012-03-05 15:22:35, doministry wrote:
Mine is waiting for me!
Getting this tomorrow, expect feedback!
Posted by doministry
On 2012-03-05 15:33:47, dibdin wrote:
On 2012-03-05 15:22:35, doministry wrote:
Mine is waiting for me!
Getting this tomorrow, expect feedback!
www.sonyericsson-sklep.pl
Polish official store. Could get it today but it was not possible
from my side.