Posted by dibdin
On 2012-02-18 17:30:26, djin wrote:
I am actually used to the power button on my desire, so for me this shouldnt be an issue.. Although pressing the home key on the arc was more convenient for unlock.
Posted by rickster2kuk
Big thanks to Rog for all the photos.
Don't mean to sound negative, but the samples from what I presume is the production model don't look any better from the Arcs, the only improvement I can see is they seem to have put less saturation on the colours.
Obviously Sony are still sticking to their standard post processing software as found on the Arc.
Posted by roanmy
Are there no reviews yet? A bit surprising since there's only a few weeks left.
Posted by dibdin
On 2012-02-19 15:50:30, roanmy wrote:
Are there no reviews yet? A bit surprising since there's only a few weeks left.
Posted by HxH
Software is still in polishing stage as far as I know, but overall performance is reasonably well by now....
They could push it to incredible level of performance, probably ~_~
Every single last drop from MSM8260 unlike earlier devices that floating around in the market.
Posted by Raja
Some camera samples and camera comparisons against Arc S and iPhone 4:
http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4437/4739036/1/
Posted by marcink
Crops look bad at iso-100. That's sad and a very bad sign Where can you see camera samples?
Posted by gabbyevs
hi all
havent been here for a while looking forward to the phone being released
cant remember if im allowed to post links but has anyone seen buymobiles monthly prices for this yet?
Posted by dibdin
Navagation on Sony Xperia S
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Idv5avHv058
Posted by winnerzero
wow...video looks awesome...can't wait to get the white one now...
does anyone have any leaks as to what changes ICS will bring?
Posted by NightBlade
On 2012-02-20 13:44:54, winnerzero wrote:
wow...video looks awesome...can't wait to get the white one now...
does anyone have any leaks as to what changes ICS will bring?
It's mostly the interface that's going to be optimised. You can browse the new guidelines here if you want to:
http://developer.android.com/design/index.html
I also think it adds support for multiple cores.
Posted by Marly
On 2012-02-20 09:54:39, gabbyevs wrote:
hi all
havent been here for a while looking forward to the phone being released
cant remember if im allowed to post links but has anyone seen buymobiles monthly prices for this yet?
These links are allowed, so when you know where to get it at a good price, please do post the link
[ This Message was edited by: Marly on 2012-02-20 13:58 ]
Posted by doministry
On 2012-02-20 13:44:54, winnerzero wrote:
wow...video looks awesome...can't wait to get the white one now...
does anyone have any leaks as to what changes ICS will bring?
Apparently what I know from Galaxy Nexus and I suppose it will be for all ICS devices:
1. Google search hard coded to the homescreen
2. Under the Menu button there is task manager, and all the Menus of apps are on top right spot (three dots) which
you have to press to evoke it
3. Better Widgets management.
I don't like some of these changes...
[ This Message was edited by: doministry on 2012-02-20 14:10 ]
Posted by Bonovox
When will final retail firmware be out?? Those photos again look same as Arc/Arc S quality & why so much colour noise??
Posted by rog
On 2012-02-18 06:16:11, bronxdude wrote:
@rog - thanks for the unboxing videos.
what type of headset was included? same with arc?
Don't know which one comes with the arc, but here is the one in the box:
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/8686/dsc0003yii.jpg
Posted by Ravager
Don't want to be a party killer but don't you think this is retail firmware? If they are supposed to get this phone out on the market the first week of march they must be producing them right now.
With that said off course we will see improvements over time but at launch, this is what we will get!
Posted by djin
Review by stuff
http://www.stuff.tv/review/sony-xperia-s
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ICS brings hardware acceleration, support for multiple cores in phones, better optimized, and has better power management. I remember reading somewhere that many features were not ready for the ics, so they will be ready for the next version(jelly bean)
Posted by Bonovox
Yes,there the same ones that came in my Arc S box. Not the best headphones not as good as the live headset!! There is an article about Jellybean here
http://www.gsmarena.com/andro[....]rome_os_dualboot-news-3839.php
[ This Message was edited by: Bonovox on 2012-02-20 14:42 ]
Posted by djin
I am not so interested in dual boot, i honestly getting ipad2 was a big mistake, i cant even sell it because no one wants it(at a fair price)! So I will avoid tablets for now..But i hope they keep battery life as their main focus for jelly bean!
Also regarding the headset, It looks pretty cheap! I really hope they include better ones..
Posted by randomuser
5 min Full HD concert video recorded with Xperia S
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1f__MCrXpk
Posted by doministry
On 2012-02-20 16:10:57, randomuser wrote:
5 min Full HD concert video recorded with Xperia S
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1f__MCrXpk
You mean 2 Xperias.
Posted by rog
On 2012-02-20 15:41:22, Bonovox wrote:
Yes,there the same ones that came in my Arc S box. Not the best headphones not as good as the live headset!!
Actually, they are not the very same. Arc headsets (or any other SE headsets) won't work with the Xperia S, it has a different connector pin layout (the same as iPhone).
Posted by mediar
On 2012-02-20 17:03:12, rog wrote:
Actually, they are not the very same. Arc headsets (or any other SE headsets) won't work with the Xperia S, it has a different connector pin layout (the same as iPhone).
And since the old Xperias have standard 3.5mm headphone jack, that means that Xperia S has some kind of widely unknown type of audio jack that requires special headphones. DAMN YOU Sony!
Posted by dibdin
On 2012-02-20 15:41:18, djin wrote:
Review by stuff
http://www.stuff.tv/review/sony-xperia-s
---
ICS brings hardware acceleration, support for multiple cores in phones, better optimized, and has better power management. I remember reading somewhere that many features were not ready for the ics, so they will be ready for the next version(jelly bean)
Posted by xenia
On 2012-02-20 17:03:12, rog wrote:
On 2012-02-20 15:41:22, Bonovox wrote:
Yes,there the same ones that came in my Arc S box. Not the best headphones not as good as the live headset!!
Actually, they are not the very same. Arc headsets (or any other SE headsets) won't work with the Xperia S, it has a different connector pin layout (the same as iPhone).
It has no music or no call voice? Music must play in to it/
SFMBE
Posted by rickster2kuk
On 2012-02-20 15:26:29, Bonovox wrote:
When will final retail firmware be out?? Those photos again look same as Arc/Arc S quality & why so much colour noise??
I think you'll find Bono that that is final retail firmware and as we know, SE/Sony don't tend to tweak the camera. What is strange is that the earlier photos were coming in at 2.5 - 3MB, but rog's latest photos are around 1 - 2mb - disappointing.
The UI looks very quick and slick, after seeing the interface preview video on Xperiablog the UI looks an evolution not a revolution but certainly looks more polished than ever (I love the weather and power control widgets).
Posted by stais
On 2012-02-20 19:17:02, mediar wrote:
On 2012-02-20 17:03:12, rog wrote:
Actually, they are not the very same. Arc headsets (or any other SE headsets) won't work with the Xperia S, it has a different connector pin layout (the same as iPhone).
And since the old Xperias have standard 3.5mm headphone jack, that means that Xperia S has some kind of widely unknown type of audio jack that requires special headphones. DAMN YOU Sony!
Hmm, the SE webpage states:
3.5 mm audio jack
Share your music via the extra jack. Use any headphones with a standard-sized 3.5 mm connector.
http://www.sonyericsson.com/c[....]n#view=features_specifications
Posted by motvikt
On 2012-02-20 19:17:02, mediar wrote:
On 2012-02-20 17:03:12, rog wrote:
Actually, they are not the very same. Arc headsets (or any other SE headsets) won't work with the Xperia S, it has a different connector pin layout (the same as iPhone).
And since the old Xperias have standard 3.5mm headphone jack, that means that Xperia S has some kind of widely unknown type of audio jack that requires special headphones. DAMN YOU Sony!
They have changed from the EU-standard to US-standard. A very good move imo. Now all the iphone headsets will work on xperia S.
Posted by mediar
On 2012-02-20 21:25:30, motvikt wrote:
They have changed from the world-standard to US-standard. A very good move imo. Now all the iphone headsets will work on xperia S.
Let me fix that for you. And who cares if the iPhone headphones gonna work? If you have enough money to buy Xperia S, that means you should have enough money to buy decent Philips/Sony/Panasonic/Sennheiser/AKG headphones for it, if you need such, in stead of buying that iphone crap.
[ This Message was edited by: mediar on 2012-02-20 21:28 ]
Posted by NightBlade
From the pictures I've seen it pretty much looks like a 3.5mm one.
Unless it's actually a 2.5mm one, which would be stupid.
EDIT: Pic from CES
[ This Message was edited by: NightBlade on 2012-02-20 21:35 ]
Posted by mediar
No, it's 3.5mm one, but different standard, named TRRS, that requires specific type of headphones. It's explained here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS_connector
EDIT: After I spent some time reading that wikipedia article, I came to the happy conclusion, that the TRS plugs are still compatible with that specific TRRS jack, while the opposite combination doesn't work.
[ This Message was edited by: mediar on 2012-02-20 21:42 ]
Posted by motvikt
On 2012-02-20 22:26:35, mediar wrote:
On 2012-02-20 21:25:30, motvikt wrote:
They have changed from the world-standard to US-standard. A very good move imo. Now all the iphone headsets will work on xperia S.
Let me fix that for you. And who cares if the iPhone headphones gonna work? If you have enough money to buy Xperia S, that means you should have enough money to buy decent Philips/Sony/Panasonic/Sennheiser/AKG headphones for it, if you need such, in stead of buying that iphone crap.
[ This Message was edited by: mediar on 2012-02-20 21:28 ]
Ah, world thx! Well incase you haven't noticed, all the big brands you mentioned make iphone headsets. In fact, the majority of headsets they make are iPhone headsets. Nokia and SE was practically alone with their standard. It was wrong of me to just say iPhone headset however, I mean the standard, not "apple made headsets". Sorry for the confusion
Posted by NightBlade
On 2012-02-20 22:34:47, mediar wrote:
EDIT: After I spent some time reading that wikipedia article, I came to the happy conclusion, that the TRS plugs are still compatible with that specific TRRS jack, while the opposite combination doesn't work.
[ This Message was edited by: mediar on 2012-02-20 21:42 ]
That's what I was just going to say.
I was sure it would otherwise have been very stupid of Sony to implement this type of jack.
Posted by DACHA
A new unboxing video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=064xbChx-Yo
part 2 start up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?[....]_vid=064xbChx-Yo&v=JRWqBywlHlo
[ This Message was edited by: DACHA on 2012-02-20 22:37 ]
Posted by dibdin
Good unboxing video...enjoyed part 2. The screen looks fabulous on this thing.
Posted by adsada
Not impressed by the start up screen, its pretty boring. I would have expected the make.believe with the colours which fly into the logo, which is found at the end of all Sony adverts and promos... shame
Posted by Supa_Fly
On 2012-02-21 00:43:02, adsada wrote:
Not impressed by the start up screen, its pretty boring. I would have expected the make.believe with the colours which fly into the logo, which is found at the end of all Sony adverts and promos... shame
Man, some of you are an insatiable and picky lot. Dude how often are you planning on rebooting your Xperia anyway - to "enjoy" the boot up screen?! Personally I'd rather be USING the Xperia to its fullest than to even care or notice what the boot up screen is!! Heck unless it flashes a hot women with bouncing breasts or spread eagle & singing any nations national anthem, I could care less if it even flipped me the bird!
Posted by Supa_Fly
On 2012-02-20 22:26:35, mediar wrote:
On 2012-02-20 21:25:30, motvikt wrote:
They have changed from the world-standard to US-standard. A very good move imo. Now all the iphone headsets will work on xperia S.
Let me fix that for you. And who cares if the iPhone headphones gonna work? If you have enough money to buy Xperia S, that means you should have enough money to buy decent Philips/Sony/Panasonic/Sennheiser/AKG headphones for it, if you need such, in stead of buying that iphone crap.
[ This Message was edited by: mediar on 2012-02-20 21:28 ]
Do you realize what you're talking about here?
- iPhone headphones ARE an industry standard now: just about EVERY major headphone manufacturer makes ones with the "ControlTalk" compatibility:
AJays
Jbird
Bose
Sony
Panasonic
Sennheiser
AKG soon
Grado soon
Apple (of course)
Beats by Monster
JBL
etc etc.
So you're saying you do NOT want to: Make/Reject/Repeat dial calls, Play/Pause/FWD Skip/RWD Skip/FFWD/FRWD Music ... switch playlists, heck voice control Google Search and possibly even Google Maps ALL via the headset while;
jogging,
cycling,
running,
train commute,
bus commute,
carrying groceries with BOTH hands full,
on a call while feeding your baby brother/sister/child ?!
EDIT: Let me also add the ability to hookup a Guitar and record directly into your smartphone, maybe possibly a midi outboard connection. Apple has completely expanded this TTRS connector beyond what we think.
Man .... I sometimes wonder with all the complaints in this thread where the common sense of functionality over design or over principle of what used to be has gone.
[ This Message was edited by: Prom1 on 2012-02-21 08:50 ]
Posted by randomuser
On 2012-02-21 09:27:54, Prom1 wrote:
On 2012-02-21 00:43:02, adsada wrote:
Not impressed by the start up screen, its pretty boring. I would have expected the make.believe with the colours which fly into the logo, which is found at the end of all Sony adverts and promos... shame
Man, some of you are an insatiable and picky lot. Dude how often are you planning on rebooting your Xperia anyway - to "enjoy" the boot up screen?! Personally I'd rather be USING the Xperia to its fullest than to even care or notice what the boot up screen is!! Heck unless it flashes a hot women with bouncing breasts or spread eagle & singing any nations national anthem, I could care less if it even flipped me the bird!
+1000!
People here are a 1000 times more picky than all the reviewers out there. People here whining about no improvement over Arc image quality when the actual people who took those pics are saying that Xperia S is superior to Iphone 4S and Arc S.
And I don't understand why everyone here expects zero noise at 100% crop from a PHONE camera!. Even basic point and shoot cameras have almost similar amount of noise as Xperia S shots at 100% crop.
Can everyone just stop whining and be happy that the last Sony Ericsson flagship is finally what we have been wishing for since years. The Xperia S is currently and will remain till the end of Q1 at least, simply the best smartphone there is. And the stuff.tv review says the same thing. Currently, Xperia S is in a class of its own.
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2012-02-21 09:20 ]
Posted by gabbyevs
On 2012-02-20 14:56:06, Marly wrote:
On 2012-02-20 09:54:39, gabbyevs wrote:
hi all
havent been here for a while looking forward to the phone being released
cant remember if im allowed to post links but has anyone seen buymobiles monthly prices for this yet?
These links are allowed, so when you know where to get it at a good price, please do post the link
[ This Message was edited by: Marly on 2012-02-20 13:58 ]
dont know if you class these as good prices but heres the link for contract on voda orange, o2 and tmobile
http://www.buymobilephones.ne[....]-Xperia-S/13,95422,All,tt1,ct1
Posted by adsada
On 2012-02-21 09:27:54, Prom1 wrote:
On 2012-02-21 00:43:02, adsada wrote:
Not impressed by the start up screen, its pretty boring. I would have expected the make.believe with the colours which fly into the logo, which is found at the end of all Sony adverts and promos... shame
Man, some of you are an insatiable and picky lot. Dude how often are you planning on rebooting your Xperia anyway - to "enjoy" the boot up screen?! Personally I'd rather be USING the Xperia to its fullest than to even care or notice what the boot up screen is!! Heck unless it flashes a hot women with bouncing breasts or spread eagle & singing any nations national anthem, I could care less if it even flipped me the bird!
Eh, don't try and put me in a bracket. I'm not picky at all, I love the UXP look of the S, if you'll notice this is my first criticism of the phone. Yes it may not be the make or brake feature but for people, but imo I find the one they have is just boring, from Sony I'd expect something better. There is something nice about turning it on and having a cool animation and I think the one Sony went for was just last minute. Its not being picky its just my bloody opinion!
Posted by gabbyevs
and heres p4u in white-says delivery for 13 march
http://www.phones4u.co.uk/sho[....]emKey=586987&intcid=HP_PAYM_P6
Posted by adsada
rog, or anyone that has the phone, in the stuff.tv review it makes note of a "slight rattling plastic back cover" is this much of an issue, does it make the phone feel less premium?
cheers
Posted by Ravager
Lets not become "Apple fanboys" and start yelling "HANG HIM" after every so slight sign of criticism, please...
Its much better and fun to have a discussion!
Posted by dibdin
On 2012-02-21 10:27:52, gabbyevs wrote:
and heres p4u in white-says delivery for 13 march
http://www.phones4u.co.uk/sho[....]emKey=586987&intcid=HP_PAYM_P6
It looks at the moment as if this phone will be out anytime between the 5th to the 13th March 2012. I'm hoping it will be out before the 13th as i am finding it hard waiting for it to be released.
Posted by Tsepz_GP
On 2012-02-21 10:16:04, randomuser wrote:
On 2012-02-21 09:27:54, Prom1 wrote:
On 2012-02-21 00:43:02, adsada wrote:
Not impressed by the start up screen, its pretty boring. I would have expected the make.believe with the colours which fly into the logo, which is found at the end of all Sony adverts and promos... shame
Man, some of you are an insatiable and picky lot. Dude how often are you planning on rebooting your Xperia anyway - to "enjoy" the boot up screen?! Personally I'd rather be USING the Xperia to its fullest than to even care or notice what the boot up screen is!! Heck unless it flashes a hot women with bouncing breasts or spread eagle & singing any nations national anthem, I could care less if it even flipped me the bird!
+1000!
People here are a 1000 times more picky than all the reviewers out there. People here whining about no improvement over Arc image quality when the actual people who took those pics are saying that Xperia S is superior to Iphone 4S and Arc S.
And I don't understand why everyone here expects zero noise at 100% crop from a PHONE camera!. Even basic point and shoot cameras have almost similar amount of noise as Xperia S shots at 100% crop.
Can everyone just stop whining and be happy that the last Sony Ericsson flagship is finally what we have been wishing for since years. The Xperia S is currently and will remain till the end of Q1 at least, simply the best smartphone there is. And the stuff.tv review says the same thing. Currently, Xperia S is in a class of its own.
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2012-02-21 09:20 ]
Lol i guess we should all follow what Stuff.tv? Until the final units have made the rounds to all the large review sites and we have some user opinions here who have bought it the jury is still out.
I agree about the 100% crop pics point, even the N8's pics taken with its large sensor and other incredible Camera hardware have noise at 100% crop.
Posted by doministry
Xperia S will be the class of it's own for a long time.
Posted by adsada
On 2012-02-21 13:27:16, doministry wrote:
Xperia S will be the class of it's own for a long time.
Yes... until quadcore's come along in a couple months time. It was the same last year, the arc came out quickly and was the best android device...for about a couple of weeks. Even Sony will be releasing a quadcore device later in the year, so will replace this device as the flagship
Posted by doministry
On 2012-02-21 13:59:29, adsada wrote:
On 2012-02-21 13:27:16, doministry wrote:
Xperia S will be the class of it's own for a long time.
Yes... until quadcore's come along in a couple months time. It was the same last year, the arc came out quickly and was the best android device...for about a couple of weeks. Even Sony will be releasing a quadcore device later in the year, so will replace this device as the flagship
Well not really.
Double core are still not the standard, and they still don't really offer that much of a change.
I wouldn't get crazy about it.
Posted by Tsepz_GP
On 2012-02-21 13:27:16, doministry wrote:
Xperia S will be the class of it's own for a long time.
Other than the Camera, display res and design, its no better than say a Galaxy SII which was launched a whole year ago, yet still has faster HSPA+, A microSD slot, Better camera results, more powerful CPU/GPU despite being clocked down to 1.2GHz, superior display tech, better tailored UI for hardware allowing HD1080P in web browser and possibly faster performance (waiting to see some full on reviews on it, but the mere fact that it uses a Snapdragon CPU makes me believe performance wont be upto mark with GS2).
The more i look into this Xperia S the less excited i am, HTC and Samsung are going to bring some seriously powerful and finely tuned devices this year, Sony better bring their A-game with this, its just not convincing me right now.