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Sony Xperia S thread


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Posted by roanmy
I am REALLY conflicted about the design. I really like ION's design, and I L-O-V-E the SO-03D design (reminds me of a better X10). I cannot, however, decide if I like the design of this one, or if I think it's boxy and ugly. o_O


Posted by goldenface
The Neo, Play and Pro all had the same design language but this somehow seems a better one to me. I think the squarer, boxier look makes it look a lot more high-end than the softer rounder lines of the Neo, for example.

What I like most of all is how they've managed to give it a completely unique look. It doesn't look like any other phone out there. I think it's the 'chin' and strip / antenna that does it.

Posted by dibdin

On 2012-01-14 21:56:09, roanmy wrote:
I am REALLY conflicted about the design. I really like ION's design, and I L-O-V-E the SO-03D design (reminds me of a better X10). I cannot, however, decide if I like the design of this one, or if I think it's boxy and ugly. o_O

You may feel different when you see it in the flesh.

Posted by roanmy
^I really hope so since I live in Norway, haha. Would be nice not having to import a phone. xD

Posted by Supa_Fly
I'm liking this device more and more for the following reasons:

1. Quick Camera works even if Security password is enabled. Once taken you CANNOT access phone or previously taken pictures - just like my iPhone 4/4S (I own both).

2. HW Design - resembles the iconic machine design of products (like iPhone 4). Also love the reversed "Convex" (something engadget doesn't know the difference between concave/convex lol) rear shape making it easier to hold.
Also is odd the rear panel is removable JUST for the MicroSIM ... but now that I think about it the case can be replaced and such minimal cost - reverting it to brand new status

3. Icons and core system widgets that'll ship with it. They ALL look uniform in presentation and size ... this on a Gingerbread device 2.3.5/7 which is NOT what LG, Motorola Droid series, or HTC's have. VERY impressed SE/Sony leads the pack here before ICS had this encouraged. And it only took Google 4 generations to think of this, huh.

4. Global availability ambitions ... its ABOUT TIME!

5. Docking HDMI out presentations. Something Motorola has had a tough-time selling with the Droid series and Atrix models with accessories. like Nokia are renowned for accesssories and their quality and usefulness so I really look forward to this.

Question does the shipping headphones allow me to control my music playback and calls like I can on my iPhone?! To me this is VERY critical!

Posted by titus1
The Arc S has the "Pureness" & "K810" DNA in terms of design.

Posted by doministry
So in March it's mine.
I take the black one.

Posted by rickster2kuk
I like the white, but I'd be worried that over time it would show up marks, slight discolouration etc.

Posted by dibdin
At least the black version won't end up being a finger print magnet like the Arc (midnight blue).

Posted by razec

Camera samples are coming in at about 3mb - 3.5mb, so definitely better than the paltry 1mb photos from the Arc.


Actually my compact Olympus camera takes 14mp pics with an average file size of 2.7MB - this is on "normal" quality settings, the higher ones are around 8mb ("Fine" quality) and on normal quality settings there were no visible artifacts, so with this I believe Xperia S's image quality to have less pixel defects resulting from overcompression just as how Arc and its siblings were plagued by this limitation.

the new samples from e-price really convinces me that S's raw camera quality would be similar of better than Satio. the macro shots were detailed, it might not be as great as N8 on lowlight but if we scale S as an overall camera phone N8's already been limited by its aging hardware and features (sadly), I still wish Sony could provide some sort of an external flash accessory for this, maybe a Wireless flash that has its own power source would do just like in Nikon DSLRs

I miss the MXE-60 days so much
[ This Message was edited by: razec on 2012-01-15 11:50 ]


Posted by rickster2kuk
The e-price macros were very good, the outdoor ones not so much, but I believe this may have been to do with the 3D sweep function being used for the outdoor shots and if you look closely there is a fair amount of ghosting on the image.

Posted by rog
Here are some more pictures:






And this one shot in panorama mode:


[ This Message was edited by: rog on 2012-01-15 15:15 ]


Posted by rickster2kuk
Still a little bit of compression noise on those photos when cropped to 100pc, although it's an improvement on the Arc. Again, photos coming in bigger a 3-3.5mb.

I hope the camera application has the ability to select the compression level, but sadly I don't think this is the case.

Posted by rog
No, compression level can't be set.

Posted by NightBlade
Still, I think the compression levels and amount of resolved detail aren't that bad. Here's a pic from the Satio for comparison:

[ This Message was edited by: NightBlade on 2012-01-15 14:02 ]


Posted by marcink
Rog, that does'n look to good when cropped. If these are iso64 shots, then how will look iso200 ones? There's been no progress in S(E) picture processing for 3-4 years. And it probably won't get any better, because these shots have sony/se dna all over them.

Posted by Bonovox
Best Xperia so far for picture quality imo is the Ray

Posted by rickster2kuk
Yes, Ray seems to get the balance of sharpness and detail just right. I also rated the X10's camera.

I don't know how SE can change these things when fundamentally the sensor is the same in the Ray and the Arc.

Xperia S is looking better the more I see the photos in detail, still needs a little less compression noise to beat the current best SGS2.

Posted by tai020381
Photo quality same as Arc, but resolution seems to increase a bit. Hope they make end result processing same as result from Iphone 4s!~

Posted by marcink
Let's hope so.

Posted by doministry

On 2012-01-15 16:53:34, Bonovox wrote:
Best Xperia so far for picture quality imo is the Ray


On GSMArena it doesn't look like it.

Posted by Bonovox
GSM Arena have zero idea on taking photos. I have some I took in sunshine during summer & they were clear,sharp & colourful compared to Arc or Neo. The shots they took came out very different to what I got

Posted by xenia


Posted by doministry

On 2012-01-16 01:03:50, Bonovox wrote:
GSM Arena have zero idea on taking photos. I have some I took in sunshine during summer & they were clear,sharp & colourful compared to Arc or Neo. The shots they took came out very different to what I got


GSM Arena has just standarized, technical and well known method for taking photos and comparing them between devices.
So there is nothing to know or not know to about it, it's just pure technical objective method which is closer to reality
than your random tries.
We can argue of course if this test is good enough to say everything about the phone's camera,
and IMO it's just not complete because there might be situations when one phone takes much better shots than the other
even if it lost in comparative test.
But my sister has Ray and I have Arc and there is definitely no real difference between these,
and definitely not in fovour of Ray.

Posted by rog
And here some "night" shots (second one is giving a hint on the Android version the S will launch on ):



[ This Message was edited by: rog on 2012-01-16 19:30 ]


Posted by randomuser
According to TechRadar UK Xperia S is launching in UK on March 5 for £429.99 (inc VAT) SIM-free




Posted by goldenface
Not a bad price.

Posted by Bonovox
That's similar price to Arc when released

Posted by owlsfan_72
According to play.com it's out on Jan 30th

Posted by Bonovox
Well don't take that as gospel cos it happened with the last Xperia releases & the websites kept changing dates

Posted by owlsfan_72
I know Bonovox. I should have gone with a laughing smiley. At least they're getting quicker releasing them after an announcement.

I'm still trying to work out whether to get the S or whether it will be too much of a culture shock after using the X10 Mini for the last 15 months.

Posted by motvikt
Ive been looking for videos that show the new "timescape friends". Have any of you seen that demonstrated? Only seen the widget briefly and it wasnt configured then. They seem to have ditched the 3d tiles (good thing imo)

Posted by rickster2kuk
I can't see SE bettering this for a flagship in 2012. I think this will be their flagship. I think rumours of mint are more a SG Note type device.

I'm warming more towards the black now.

For me this ticks all the boxes over the Arc:
- Dual Core
- 1GB RAM
- High Res screen
- Improved (albeit slightly) camera
- More rugged design.

I don't think we could have expected more from SE. Will be interesting to see what Samsung bring out, but I will probably stay with Sony.

Posted by Bonovox
Samsung are now releasing this
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsu[....]ing_a_uk_release-news-3684.php
[ This Message was edited by: Bonovox on 2012-01-18 20:45 ]


Posted by rickster2kuk
I don't know why the obsession with 4.5 inch plus screens on phones. Was reading that the rumoured SGS3 will have a 4.7 screen.

The dimensions on that thing will be huge! I found the SGS2 too wide, these two will be crazy. 4 - 4.3 is perfect for me.

Posted by Bonovox
I know one handed use makes it hard. A 3.7 inch is just right for me

Posted by dibdin
And also looking at the general design of the Xperia S it looks less likely that this device will suffer from cracks in the housing like it's predecessor the Arc.

Posted by Bonovox
Has the Arc S suffered from the cracks??

Posted by dibdin

On 2012-01-18 22:06:36, Bonovox wrote:
Has the Arc S suffered from the cracks??


I read on another forum that an Arc S user has experienced a small crack just above the sensor.

Posted by esoqq
Is it possible that play.com are actually correct and it's really coming this month? I've just seen that they're not the only retailer to be given info that release is imminent. Clicking on Product Q&A on this page of the handtec website concurs:

http://www.handtec.co.uk/prod[....]a-s--sim-free-unlocked--white-

Posted by dibdin

On 2012-01-18 23:06:59, esoqq wrote:
Is it possible that play.com are actually correct and it's really coming this month? I've just seen that they're not the only retailer to be given info that release is imminent. Clicking on Product Q&A on this page of the handtec website concurs:

http://www.handtec.co.uk/prod[....]a-s--sim-free-unlocked--white-

NO. The word on the street is that it will be available first half of March

Posted by >500

On 2012-01-18 23:12:54, dibdin wrote:
NO. The word on the street is that it will be available first half of March




Not saying Handtec's info is 100% correct. But im sure their word is more reliable than 'word on the street'!

Sony have said March, who knows, maybe its coming sooner.... Time will tell.


Posted by Tigon
nice vid showing music player in more detail, sorry video is not in english...

https://www.youtube.com/watch[....]w&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Posted by winnerzero
the music player looks a lot like the one on the upcoming sony z1000 walkman...albeit because they are both android...now i don't know if i want the walkman anymore since i definitely will be getting the xperia s in white...i just hope the music player in the xperia s is somewhere close to the quality of the walkmans...

Posted by dibdin
Is it true that the viewing angles on the Xperia S are much improved compared to the Arc?

Posted by Platia1
Wow, heaps of things in the new music player I've wanted on Android for ages, the ability to edit metadata on the phone itself is definitely a big thing for me (atleast thats how it looked on the video).

Posted by Spinz

On 2012-01-19 13:10:09, Platia1 wrote:
Wow, heaps of things in the new music player I've wanted on Android for ages, the ability to edit metadata on the phone itself is definitely a big thing for me (atleast thats how it looked on the video).


Same here, ability to edit Metadata, also Integrate the Track-Id into the player too so when it identifies the track an option comes as if to save the details in the playing track.

Posted by NightBlade
The music player looks awesome

Posted by vengersama
Can someone help me by advising if the international version of the Sony Xperia S (LT26i) will be compatible with USA 3G data? I'm surprised no one has talked about this yet, unless I'm blind. The main reason I'm concerned is because in the past it has typically taken Sony a couple months or more to release their "a" models.
[ This Message was edited by: vengersama on 2012-01-20 16:35 ]


Posted by NightBlade
It seems like the S may really come out sooner than expected...

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_[....]er_than_expected-news-3692.php


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