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Posted by FMW300
I believe Xperia T, TX & V all have Adreno 225 GPU, which will deliver better/faster graphics performance than Xperia S with Adreno 220.


Posted by djin

On 2012-09-13 19:02:04, bipinm wrote:
please help me here...

Xperia S uses 1.5 GHz Qualcomm MSM8260 Dual Core with Adreno 220
Xperia SL uses 1.7 GHz Qualcomm MSM8260 Dual Core with Adreno 220
Xperia T uses 1.5 GHz Qualcomm MSM8260-A Dual Core with Adreno 220

What will be the difference in gaming...



T, V and TX use adreno 225 gpu. For the time being XS will do but not so much for the next year. T gets about 58-60fps in benchmarks and should be great for at least a year. Moreover, since they are playstation certified, gaming shouldn't be an issue on both XS and T once ps mobile kicks off this year.

If you can go for T it will be a better option at this time. Although gpu is not very incremental, but cpu performance(and hence browsing, video playback, etc) is much better.

Posted by moogoo

On 2012-09-13 17:08:58, randomuser wrote:
What do you think of the screen, moogoo ?


Screen is very crisp and sharp! Some photos with the bravia engine are a bit overblown in contrast, but that's what the bravia engine does.

I do notice that some whites sometimes aren't as white as they could be? I put it at max brightness, pulled up a white screen and put it next to my macbook with a white page and there seemed to be a slight tint to the screen. not sure if it was me or if it was that picture or what. i'll have to experiment a bit more.

@Ranjith thanks for rubbing it in buddy

EDIT: by the way.. is it a regional thing that my playstation store doesn't list all the games that should be available? I only have maybe 12 games but none of the ones that were apparently released a few months ago..
[ This Message was edited by: moogoo on 2012-09-13 21:04 ]


Posted by bipinm

On 2012-09-13 20:29:05, djin wrote:

On 2012-09-13 19:02:04, bipinm wrote:
please help me here...

Xperia S uses 1.5 GHz Qualcomm MSM8260 Dual Core with Adreno 220
Xperia SL uses 1.7 GHz Qualcomm MSM8260 Dual Core with Adreno 220
Xperia T uses 1.5 GHz Qualcomm MSM8260-A Dual Core with Adreno 220

What will be the difference in gaming...



T, V and TX use adreno 225 gpu. For the time being XS will do but not so much for the next year. T gets about 58-60fps in benchmarks and should be great for at least a year. Moreover, since they are playstation certified, gaming shouldn't be an issue on both XS and T once ps mobile kicks off this year.

If you can go for T it will be a better option at this time. Although gpu is not very incremental, but cpu performance(and hence browsing, video playback, etc) is much better.




So if i bought XS, I will be able to play all the latest games till 2H 2013...right...eventhough the Cpu and Gpu is a bit old...right...Im repeating the question beacause im not good at this..I just wanna make sure my desision was right...I dont know when T/Tx/V comes to my country...So i guess i will buy XS and wait for Second flagship in 2013...Thanks

Posted by NightBlade
Most Android games aren't that graphically-intensive anyway. You should be fine for the next few years.

For example, there's this game called Riptide GP, which has some pretty neat water graphics and simulation and it runs flawlessly.

Posted by djin
@bipinm,

You should be fine till then. As Nightblade said, most of the games on android aren't that intensive right now because development of good quality games on android was late, but it has picked up a lot(such as dead trigger, riptide etc.). By next year it should vastly improve, so I dont expect that you will be able to run top of the line games with the smoothest experience, but it should work b/w decent to playable till then. But games that will debut on ps mobile, should work good imo.

Posted by Detox
Seems like there is CPU throttling because of overheating:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1885260

Posted by djin
Thats not good. But I think that should get fixed with an update or perhpaps with jelly bean?

Posted by Detox
This is more likely a hardware problem .

Posted by mediar
Another Xperia S issue:

Xperia S owners: Who has camera autofocus issues?
http://www.xperiablog.net/201[....]o-has-camera-autofocus-issues/

Posted by Luca-S
Do you have the Xperia S Mediar?

Posted by moogoo
I have zero focus issues with my XS and i have been doing extensive testing with the camera. I love photography, so getting to know the capabilities of the camera on my XS is important. Better to test it out than lose that shot when you need it!

Not sure why people are complaining about autofocus issues. Even a dSLR won't be able to focus if there isn't enough light. It also won't be able to focus if you're trying to focus on a flat surface. For autofocus to work, you need to understand what the camera is looking for and what it needs. Autofocus requires some detail (could be as simple as a line drawn or naturally occurring edge, etc) and enough light to see the detail. With these two requirements, autofocus will work flawlessly and if it does not, then there may be a problem.

In addition, XS gives the option for many types of focus. Personally, I like using the camera button over the touch screen one since it allows the 2 step capture (first autofocus and lock, then capture when i'm ready). I haven't used the touch focus much so I can't comment. If using the camera button, there are two types of focus (1) single and (2) multiple. The multiple will basically try to focus on the closest detailed object in the frame whereas the single focus will try to focus where ever you point it.

Anyway.. i'm sure a lesson in autofocus wasn't necessary, but it seems to me that any autofocus issues people are experiencing may be due to user error and not any fault of XS. Of course, what do i know.. i'm just speculating

Posted by Detox
Sony Xperia S firmware update available:
http://talk.sonymobile.com/message/291207

Posted by Ranjith
Got an Issue with Facebook Contacts.Th FB contacts and the ones in the phones with the same phone numbers don't get Linked...so A contact has both the FB contact and the one i created in the phone..i have to manually link them.Any way to do it automatically?

Posted by king-james
Go to facebook over the browser. The app sucks my friends saying...

Posted by moogoo
So, since XS is one an experiment phone in that program.. (can't think of it) where XS would be eligible for vanilla upgrades to android..

does that mean we'll be getting jellybean soon? and will it be the vanilla version?

if anybody has a link to that program or whatever that i can't think of for more info, that'd be great.

Posted by Felimenta97

On 2012-10-03 21:52:32, moogoo wrote:
So, since XS is one an experiment phone in that program.. (can't think of it) where XS would be eligible for vanilla upgrades to android..

does that mean we'll be getting jellybean soon? and will it be the vanilla version?

if anybody has a link to that program or whatever that i can't think of for more info, that'd be great.



As said a million times, here and other places, no. That is a test to see how hard is to implement a new device on the AOSP program. We may have some progress once Sony's JB is released, but nothing of this means official Vanilla upgrades.

Posted by doministry
The main problem is with the email app.
The problem is that it has absurd limitation of 25 emails which can be stored on the phone.

It means that even if I download 200 emails with bodies to my phone, with the next login/refresh everything is deleted and only 25 emails are left on the phone.

This makes the whole app totally useless.
Completely unprofessional and idiotic.
This happens both on POP3 and IMAP.

The person responsible for this design decision is a complete idiot.

Can we finally have a profi app??!! Why can't the user decide what he has on the device!! Why every other 3rd party app allows these things! Why am I forced to use other email apps!

Posted by moogoo
isn't that more an Android/Google issue than a Sony XS issue?

I only use gmail and I obviously have very different needs than you. Sorry you have to use a 3rd party app, but if you can address your needs using a 3rd party app, then what's the big deal?

Posted by doministry

On 2012-10-06 07:40:39, moogoo wrote:
isn't that more an Android/Google issue than a Sony XS issue?

I only use gmail and I obviously have very different needs than you. Sorry you have to use a 3rd party app, but if you can address your needs using a 3rd party app, then what's the big deal?


It is not Android issue because on Arc, Xperia X10 Mini I was able to have as many emails I wanted.
It's the idiotic design.

The issue is I would prefer to stay with the inbuilt app instead of 3rd party one.
It is logical I guess.

Posted by moogoo
@doministry interesting.


@anyone

has anybody rooted their XS using bin4ry's script from XDA?

I'm trying to do it on my macbook and i keep getting an error saying it can't execute the adb file. permissions look correct.. i have no idea what's wrong.

Could be a macbook compatibility issue? who knows. bleh. What other methods did you guys use for rooting your XS? any help would be greatly appreciated

Posted by Luca-S
I did. (using virtualization)
And i can confirm that on Mac you'll not be able to do it

Posted by bronxdude
hey guys! i might get an S on monday. just wanna ask a few things before i get one.

- is the autofocus issue resolved?
- how about the yellow tint on the screen?
- any particular build week i should avoid? example 12W08 below.

thanks

Posted by doministry
What autofocus issue?

Yellow tint appears on some devices, it's hardware related.
What about that?

Posted by Felimenta97

On 2012-10-13 19:35:33, doministry wrote:
What autofocus issue?

Yellow tint appears on some devices, it's hardware related.
What about that?



Yellow tint was only on the first 15 weeks of production. Rest assured you won't have it.

Posted by bronxdude

On 2012-10-13 19:58:03, Felimenta97 wrote:

On 2012-10-13 19:35:33, doministry wrote:
What autofocus issue?

Yellow tint appears on some devices, it's hardware related.
What about that?



Yellow tint was only on the first 15 weeks of production. Rest assured you won't have it.



cool. so its safe to say that if i get it on monday, the yellow tint wont be there?


Posted by bronxdude

On 2012-10-13 19:35:33, doministry wrote:
What autofocus issue?

Yellow tint appears on some devices, it's hardware related.
What about that?



@doministry - not sure if you read my post completely, but i just want to be sure that i i get the S on monday, the yellow tint issue is gone with the later batch of the phones.

as for the autofocus issue - read it here http://www.xperiablog.net/201[....]o-has-camera-autofocus-issues/

Posted by Felimenta97

On 2012-10-13 20:06:48, bronxdude wrote:

On 2012-10-13 19:58:03, Felimenta97 wrote:

On 2012-10-13 19:35:33, doministry wrote:
What autofocus issue?

Yellow tint appears on some devices, it's hardware related.
What about that?



Yellow tint was only on the first 15 weeks of production. Rest assured you won't have it.



cool. so its safe to say that if i get it on monday, the yellow tint wont be there?


Sure. If I remember correctly, by the start of June, some people already got the W16. I read already about W33 already, so rest assured... But why nota SL? I think the production of the S is slowly being discontinued...

Posted by bronxdude

On 2012-10-13 20:30:26, Felimenta97 wrote:

On 2012-10-13 20:06:48, bronxdude wrote:

On 2012-10-13 19:58:03, Felimenta97 wrote:

On 2012-10-13 19:35:33, doministry wrote:
What autofocus issue?

Yellow tint appears on some devices, it's hardware related.
What about that?



Yellow tint was only on the first 15 weeks of production. Rest assured you won't have it.



cool. so its safe to say that if i get it on monday, the yellow tint wont be there?


Sure. If I remember correctly, by the start of June, some people already got the W16. I read already about W33 already, so rest assured... But why nota SL? I think the production of the S is slowly being discontinued...



SL i think is not yet being sold here in the Philippines.

Posted by northmonkey
My brother is seriously considering getting an Xperia S but he says and I quote "I want a phone that can take very good pictures and videos", does the Xperia S fall into this bracket?

Posted by Felimenta97

On 2012-10-14 20:34:47, northmonkey wrote:
My brother is seriously considering getting an Xperia S but he says and I quote "I want a phone that can take very good pictures and videos", does the Xperia S fall into this bracket?


Yes.

Posted by HxH
XS did it decently with manual mode, scn auto is somewhat inaccurate.

Posted by Ranjith
so seems like we will get JB by November

Posted by goldenface
Xperia SL coming to Three link

Posted by Bonovox
Seen a review of the SL recently. The Xperia S is now just £249 on O2 in store

Posted by burnin
Hello,

I have a SE Satio and now i m thinkig in buy a Xperia S.

How may time do you think Xperia S its going to be a good phonne? Because ther is so many new Sony smartphonnes but the S its now at very good price! Its a good buy now?

Its upgradeble to ICS 4.0?

Thx

Posted by bluke424
Xperia S is a very good phone, I'm considering buying it as well, but I like the Xperia P too. Both phones (S and P) can be upgraded to 4.0 (ICS) and soon will get the 4.1 (JB) update.

Posted by burnin

On 2012-11-07 19:41:59, bluke424 wrote:
Xperia S is a very good phone, I'm considering buying it as well, but I like the Xperia P too. Both phones (S and P) can be upgraded to 4.0 (ICS) and soon will get the 4.1 (JB) update.


Have you sure that Xperia S its going to be upgradeble to 4.1? I been very desapointing with SOny when my Satio stoped benn upgrade very soon after realese.

I m looking fot Xperia T but the price diference its very high... 290€ to +400€!!!

The Xperia T its 150€ more good than the XPeria S?



Posted by Arne Anka

On 2012-11-08 13:33:17, burnin wrote:
Have you sure that Xperia S its going to be upgradeble to 4.1?


Yes.

http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2[....]n-for-2012-xperia-smartphones/

Posted by smclion102
Sony takes lead on AOSP on Xperiaâ„¢ S project [video]

From our side, it’s quite understandable that the Xperia™ AOSP project is now moving to our GitHub, as Google can’t maintain non-Nexus devices on the AOSP main branch in the long run. From Android 4.2, Xperia™ S will not be kept as a target device on the main AOSP branch. However, ever since JBQ started the AOSP on Xperia™ S project, we have seen a great interest from the community, and this is why we want to continue the project ourselves. We also see a lot of benefits in this ourselves.

When we’re now continuing the project, it means we will have a great tool to verify and facilitate contributions to AOSP. And since it is an open project, we will be able to collaborate with Google and Qualcomm as well as with the open developer community.

Technical status of the project
As for the current status and progress of the AOSP on Xperia™ S project, we actually have a lot of things working now. With the code we’re now making available on GitHub, AOSP now boots up, and we have the SD-card, Wi-Fi® and sensors working. And as you can see in the video above, internally we also have audio and the modem running. However, these functions require proprietary binaries that we cannot publish at the time being.

Going forward, the next steps are to replace some of the previously published binaries with source code, and to get Android 4.2 working on Xperiaâ„¢ S. This can be used as a development platform, and as a base for the work of opening up source code for more modules. For the latest technical status, check out the project on GitHub.
[ This Message was edited by: smclion102 on 2012-11-08 15:56 ]


Posted by king-james
http://www.youtube.com/watch?[....]=player_embedded&v=2UnydjgfonA

No on-screen-buttons! WTF?!!
[ This Message was edited by: king-james on 2012-11-08 16:19 ]


Posted by Tsepz_GP
Has the Xperia S really benefitted from this whole AOSP thing? Has there at the very least actually been a fully functional 4.1 ROM released?

king-james

Why would there be on-screen buttons??? The Xperia S already has physical capacitive touch Menu, Home and Back buttons, adding on-screen buttons would make absolutely no sense at all and would just reduce screen real estate.

Posted by mediar
It works much better without Sony's custom crap.

Posted by king-james
@Tsepz_GP

They need to turn off the capacitive touch buttons and add the on-screen-buttons!
All XS Users know why... "on-screen-buttons" is the future.

Posted by Felimenta97

On 2012-11-09 00:09:14, king-james wrote:
@Tsepz_GP

They need to turn off the capacitive touch buttons and add the on-screen-buttons!
All XS Users know why... "on-screen-buttons" is the future.



I do agree, but still, we have the capacitative ones. As said, it would be a waste of real screen space.

Posted by burnin
Just boght a white Xperia S... cant wait now to have it... it will be a long wait... do you have some advises for first use?

Posted by doministry
New .55 firmware is available for some...
Not for Poland yet...
Anybody?

Posted by Ranjith
I still don't understand the pre-installed screen guard.What is it there for?Its says shatter proof?does it mean with that guard on the screen it is less prone to damage from falls or does it mean that once the screen cracks it doesn't shatter off?

i don't want to continue having a second guard over it but once the pre installed one attracts scratches,i will obviously have to replace it with the normal one's avail. in the market...
So my question again,will the screen perform the same in falls without the pre installed guard or with the usual one's in the market.

Posted by Ranjith

On 2012-11-18 17:35:23, doministry wrote:
New .55 firmware is available for some...
Not for Poland yet...
Anybody?


i guess its been out sometime now but limited to very few regions.Not out here in India as well.

Posted by burnin
Just got my XpS on hands... it come with ICS 4.0.4 out of box

Than ask from update to 6.1.A.2.45....

What a machine!!!! Its beautiful in white!

* no smart tags on my box

* Battery life.... very bad!!!!! My god! Like a V8 car on gasoline...
[ This Message was edited by: burnin on 2012-11-23 10:19 ]



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