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Posted by rikken
The sometimes unresponsive capacity buttons may be caused by the pre-applied screenprotector Any thoughts on that ?


Posted by yuunanase
I don't think so. I had no problems with the buttons on the Acro HD. I think its just the buttons.

Posted by dibdin
I personally don't think they would work any better without the shatter-proof sheet to be honest.

Posted by Tsepz_GP
What? Sony are still using those "Shatterproof" sheets? Why arent they confident in their screens? They are actualy very strong screens those Mineral Glass screens, my X10 is now over 20months old and its screen is still in excellent condition despite me removing that sheet a few weeks after getting it.

Posted by rss_ndrsn
About the Bluetooth 2.1 in Xperia S, it is interesting to note that the new MW600 Bluetooth headseat supports the v3.0 but not any phone in Sony's current line-up. I think it might be that Xperia S supports Bluetooth v3.0 but the current version OS that it runs on does not support v3.0 that's why Sony only say v2.1. Maybe when it receives the Ice Cream update, the Bluetooth 3.0 will be activated. I think one HTC phone has a totally similar situation.

Posted by Tsepz_GP

On 2012-03-23 20:13:31, rss_ndrsn wrote:
About the Bluetooth 2.1 in Xperia S, it is interesting to note that the new MW600 Bluetooth headseat supports the v3.0 but not any phone in Sony's current line-up. I think it might be that Xperia S supports Bluetooth v3.0 but the current version OS that it runs on does not support v3.0 that's why Sony only say v2.1. Maybe when it receives the Ice Cream update, the Bluetooth 3.0 will be activated. I think one HTC phone has a totally similar situation.


Android2.3 supports Bluetooth3.0, the Samsung Galaxy GS2 had full Bluetooth3.0 +HS in 2.3 and has it in ICS.

Posted by rss_ndrsn
Are you sure? As far as I know the, HS is not compatible with Gingerbread. Can you provide me a link that says you can use the HS on gingerbread.

Posted by Rookwise

On 2012-03-23 21:15:20, rss_ndrsn wrote:
Are you sure? As far as I know the, HS is not compatible with Gingerbread. Can you provide me a link that says you can use the HS on gingerbread.



Taken from GSM arena XpS vs SGS2 page

Sony Xperia S over Samsung Galaxy S II:
4.3" 720p screen (342ppi) over 4.3" WVGA screen (217ppi)
12MP still camera over 8MP
1.5GHz Scorpion CPU over 1.2GHz Cortex-A9 CPU
Standard microHDMI port over MHL port (requires adapter for HDMI out)
GLONASS support in addition to A-GPS
All units have NFC over optional support in the S II
1750mAh battery over 1650mAh (IMO here GSM arena should have stated the SGS2 has an optional 2000mAh battery as well)
3D sweep panorama and Multi Angle modes


Samsung Galaxy S II over Sony Xperia S:
SuperAMOLED Plus screen has excellent black levels and better viewing angles
Expandable storage, 16GB/32GB built-in over 32GB fixed storage
8.5mm thick (with some thicker areas) over 10.6mm (with thinner areas)
Weighs 116g over 144g
Bluetooth 3.0+HS over Bluetooth 2.1
2MP front-facing camera over 1.3MP front-facing camera
[ This Message was edited by: Rookwise on 2012-03-25 00:40 ]


Posted by Supa_Fly
1.5GHz Scorpion CPU over 1.2GHz Cortex-A9 CPU


Lll. You realize both are cortex a9 cpu's right? One is overclocked the other isn't.

Posted by admad

On 2012-03-25 11:35:03, Prom1 wrote:
1.5GHz Scorpion CPU over 1.2GHz Cortex-A9 CPU


Lll. You realize both are cortex a9 cpu's right? One is overclocked the other isn't.



Lol they are not. Galaxy SII has Cortex CPU while Xperia S packs a Scorpion unit. I think You mistook galaxy SII with HTC Sensation. Since HTC Sensation uses same CPU as Xperia S but it's clocked at 1.2 GHz.

Posted by worf1000

On 2012-03-25 01:38:41, Rookwise wrote:

On 2012-03-23 21:15:20, rss_ndrsn wrote:
Are you sure? As far as I know the, HS is not compatible with Gingerbread. Can you provide me a link that says you can use the HS on gingerbread.



Taken from GSM arena XpS vs SGS2 page

Sony Xperia S over Samsung Galaxy S II:
4.3" 720p screen (342ppi) over 4.3" WVGA screen (217ppi)
12MP still camera over 8MP
1.5GHz Scorpion CPU over 1.2GHz Cortex-A9 CPU
Standard microHDMI port over MHL port (requires adapter for HDMI out)
GLONASS support in addition to A-GPS
All units have NFC over optional support in the S II
1750mAh battery over 1650mAh (IMO here GSM arena should have stated the SGS2 has an optional 2000mAh battery as well)
3D sweep panorama and Multi Angle modes


Samsung Galaxy S II over Sony Xperia S:
SuperAMOLED Plus screen has excellent black levels and better viewing angles
Expandable storage, 16GB/32GB built-in over 32GB fixed storage
8.5mm thick (with some thicker areas) over 10.6mm (with thinner areas)
Weighs 116g over 144g
Bluetooth 3.0+HS over Bluetooth 2.1
2MP front-facing camera over 1.3MP front-facing camera
[ This Message was edited by: Rookwise on 2012-03-25 00:40 ]



"SuperAMOLED Plus screen has excellent black levels and better viewing angles" just a question, you and all other people always look diagonally to the screen? Xperia S has just the best screen accept it don't come with this excuse that came from GSMarena.

"Expandable storage, 16GB/32GB built-in over 32GB fixed storage"

Tell me, your phone has no Bluetooth or DLNA enabled? another dumb excuse from GSMarena

"8.5mm thick (with some thicker areas) over 10.6mm (with thinner areas)" This has nothing to with the phone features or performance better just a personal opinion. Why don't tell GSM arena about Iphone/ Ipad lookalike?

"2MP front-facing camera over 1.3MP front-facing camera"
What is the big differences about 0,7 MP? you won't notice that.

"Bluetooth 3.0+HS over Bluetooth 2.1" This is also not big difference in practice.
[ This Message was edited by: worf1000 on 2012-03-25 16:11 ]


Posted by Tsepz_GP
Whats DLNA and Bluetooth got to do with expandable mem? Some of us invested in 16-32GB mem cards, and want to put them in our new phones, the Xperia S presents a problem there, its the same reason why many of us dont want an iPhone.
Im actualy very unhappy with some of the OEMs removing memory expansion, i cant be forever having to remove and replace media, not on a >2010 smartphone thats capable of encoding and decoding HD1080P media.

rss ndrsn
Read this: http://m.sybase.com/detail?id=1088735

Posted by worf1000

On 2012-03-25 18:56:48, Tsepz_GP wrote:
Whats DLNA and Bluetooth got to do with expandable mem? Some of us invested in 16-32GB mem cards, and want to put them in our new phones, the Xperia S presents a problem there, its the same reason why many of us dont want an iPhone.
Im actualy very unhappy with some of the OEMs removing memory expansion, i cant be forever having to remove and replace media, not on a >2010 smartphone thats capable of encoding and decoding HD1080P media.

rss ndrsn
Read this: http://m.sybase.com/detail?id=1088735



You can transfer to other devices.
I always use DLNA or Bluethoot for transfer my data to my PC and is very handy without those stupid card slot to chance

The most excuse from user complain about save files/photo or movies to chance the card, i simply transfer to my PC, really simple Or send back to your device, it's really simple.

Posted by Supa_Fly

On 2012-03-25 15:59:59, admad wrote:

On 2012-03-25 11:35:03, Prom1 wrote:
1.5GHz Scorpion CPU over 1.2GHz Cortex-A9 CPU


Lll. You realize both are cortex a9 cpu's right? One is overclocked the other isn't.



Lol they are not. Galaxy SII has Cortex CPU while Xperia S packs a Scorpion unit. I think You mistook galaxy SII with HTC Sensation. Since HTC Sensation uses same CPU as Xperia S but it's clocked at 1.2 GHz.


I may still need clarification on this. If, with your correction, I'm not mistaken then ALL Snapdragon cpu's before the S4 are based on Cortex A8's which is worse than the A9 architecture and superset of the Arm 7 design?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)

How can the 1.5 Scorpion out perform standard Cortex A9 which in most instances uses PowerVR chips vs the Adreno 205/225 junk which doesn't compare in frames/video compiling/decompiling?

Posted by rikken
Does it realy matter which is the better one ? The phone is fast and performs exellent in every way

Posted by DACHA

On 2012-03-26 08:36:27, rikken wrote:
Does it realy matter which is the better one ? The phone is fast and performs exellent in every way



You are right about the performance but the screen sucks.
I had the phone for about a month now and the screen is getting yellower every day.
Got it all the way around the frame of the screen and by the unlock slider.
Very annoying.

Posted by dibdin

On 2012-03-26 20:42:34, DACHA wrote:

On 2012-03-26 08:36:27, rikken wrote:
Does it realy matter which is the better one ? The phone is fast and performs exellent in every way



You are right about the performance but the screen sucks.
I had the phone for about a month now and the screen is getting yellower every day.
Got it all the way around the frame of the screen and by the unlock slider.
Very annoying.
Did you have any yellow tint when you first had the phone? Is it possible for you to get it exchanged?

Posted by DACHA

On 2012-03-26 22:01:17, dibdin wrote:

On 2012-03-26 20:42:34, DACHA wrote:

On 2012-03-26 08:36:27, rikken wrote:
Does it realy matter which is the better one ? The phone is fast and performs exellent in every way



You are right about the performance but the screen sucks.
I had the phone for about a month now and the screen is getting yellower every day.
Got it all the way around the frame of the screen and by the unlock slider.
Very annoying.
Did you have any yellow tint when you first had the phone? Is it possible for you to get it exchanged?

there was no yellowing at all when i first got the phone. I got it on eBay from HK. Hard to do an exchange.


Posted by worf1000

On 2012-03-26 20:42:34, DACHA wrote:

On 2012-03-26 08:36:27, rikken wrote:
Does it realy matter which is the better one ? The phone is fast and performs exellent in every way



You are right about the performance but the screen sucks.
I had the phone for about a month now and the screen is getting yellower every day.
Got it all the way around the frame of the screen and by the unlock slider.
Very annoying.


You have a faulty screen, get to a Sony service center and they take care the problem.
You have just a faulty screen, their is nothing you can do than switch the screen.

Take care and don't wait to long.

Posted by gabbyevs
anyone have a prob with their camera-i keep getting an error message saying camera not available when trying to take a picture

Posted by DarkKrypt
@anyone that bought the xperia s from an online store / clove
what do you get in the box? hdmi cable? smart tags?
I stopped my previous purchase as had car rego to pay for lol

Posted by DACHA

On 2012-03-27 01:56:08, worf1000 wrote:

On 2012-03-26 20:42:34, DACHA wrote:

On 2012-03-26 08:36:27, rikken wrote:
Does it realy matter which is the better one ? The phone is fast and performs exellent in every way



You are right about the performance but the screen sucks.
I had the phone for about a month now and the screen is getting yellower every day.
Got it all the way around the frame of the screen and by the unlock slider.
Very annoying.


You have a faulty screen, get to a Sony service center and they take care the problem.
You have just a faulty screen, their is nothing you can do than switch the screen.

Take care and don't wait to long.


My problem is that the phone is not available in the US. Costumer service told me to try to exchange it through the retailer I got it from because it cannot be repaired in the US.
It sucks big time.

Posted by HxH

On 2012-03-26 01:23:31, Prom1 wrote:

On 2012-03-25 15:59:59, admad wrote:

On 2012-03-25 11:35:03, Prom1 wrote:
1.5GHz Scorpion CPU over 1.2GHz Cortex-A9 CPU


Lll. You realize both are cortex a9 cpu's right? One is overclocked the other isn't.



Lol they are not. Galaxy SII has Cortex CPU while Xperia S packs a Scorpion unit. I think You mistook galaxy SII with HTC Sensation. Since HTC Sensation uses same CPU as Xperia S but it's clocked at 1.2 GHz.


I may still need clarification on this. If, with your correction, I'm not mistaken then ALL Snapdragon cpu's before the S4 are based on Cortex A8's which is worse than the A9 architecture and superset of the Arm 7 design?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)

How can the 1.5 Scorpion out perform standard Cortex A9 which in most instances uses PowerVR chips vs the Adreno 205/225 junk which doesn't compare in frames/video compiling/decompiling?



Scorpion is based on Cortex A8 structure but Qualcomm do it with they own special design, not the same average Cortex A8 from other company.

PowerVR graphic is powerful we all know that fact, but you need to look at GSMArena benchmark for XPERIA S those Linpack and Nenamarks 2. Sony done a majestic optimized for chipset,

here why? XPERIA S has higher resolution than Sensation XE at same chipset same clock speed, in theory lower resolution should have better performance but except this one higher res from XPERIA S gain upper hand against lower res from Sensation XE, about 10 frame rate better.

XPERIA S chipset has equal performance as Galaxy S2 in Linpack performance test, we all know the Exynos 4210 is one of the most powerful chipset in 2011 and trash it all competitors but XPERIA S is exceptional.

I think Sony (Ericsson) team, is the man who responsible for the majestic performance for XPERIA S, they know-how is key factor to make the most of it till a single last drop, but small price to pay for, because of Swedish-refined scheme (a perfectionist I mean) they product is bit late arrival to the market.

sorry for my English anyway, I not usual to very long comment.

Posted by blackvodka
Have had my white Xperia S since saturday
Screen - perfect (checked it at the store), after it Arc's screen looks blurred
Call volume - OK (not worse than Arc for sure)
Loving it

Posted by Bonovox
Call volume & call clarity on the Arc S is one of the best I ever heard on ANY phone

Posted by doministry
And Xperia S is just brilliant too.


Posted by doministry

Original

Posted by winnerzero
@darkkrypt ordered mine from clove n it came with hdmi cable but the four smarttags they promised will be sent in a seperate package once they are in stock. Wish it came with a smart headset cos im planning on getting one now.

Xperia s is awesome, best phone from sony yet. Software optimisations are excellent and it seems so much more fluid than the arc s which wasnt that slow anyway. im really loving what sony have done for their phones.

Posted by DarkKrypt
thanks winnerzero


Posted by randomuser
Early reports indicate Xperia S is selling like hot cakes everywhere. Flying off the shelves like no . Good start for Sony.

Posted by adsada

On 2012-03-28 11:36:59, randomuser wrote:
Early reports indicate Xperia S is selling like hot cakes everywhere. Flying off the shelves like no . Good start for Sony.


source?

Posted by NightBlade
I know that's the case for Japan, but elsewhere?

Posted by sambouka


Original



Original

Posted by stais
I got two questions related to the standard e-mail app in Xperia S. If below issues can't be resolved, maybe someone can suggest another e-mail app that I can use?


1. When I download e-mails with attachments, will the attachments be downloaded at the same time as well, or will they be downloaded later (for example, when I chose to open them). I can't find any settings regarding this and the reason I want to know is because I don't want to download attachments unless I have to when I'm abroad (due to high roaming costs).

2. My e-mail server is set to store e-mails for 3 months, so there will always be plenty of e-mails to download if I haven't updated the phone inbox for a while (I've set it to update manually because usually I don't need to use the phone for e-mailing). Hence, when checking the e-mail on my phone I'm typically only interested in checking, say, the last 2-24 hours worth of inbox. Is there some way to limit how old e-mails I want to download?

Posted by randomuser

On 2012-03-28 11:43:54, adsada wrote:

On 2012-03-28 11:36:59, randomuser wrote:
Early reports indicate Xperia S is selling like hot cakes everywhere. Flying off the shelves like no . Good start for Sony.


source?



Check XDA, you'll know. Unknown13x also mentioned it today in the hayabusa thread.

Posted by doministry

On 2012-03-28 17:13:14, stais wrote:
I got two questions related to the standard e-mail app in Xperia S. If below issues can't be resolved, maybe someone can suggest another e-mail app that I can use?


1. When I download e-mails with attachments, will the attachments be downloaded at the same time as well, or will they be downloaded later (for example, when I chose to open them). I can't find any settings regarding this and the reason I want to know is because I don't want to download attachments unless I have to when I'm abroad (due to high roaming costs).

2. My e-mail server is set to store e-mails for 3 months, so there will always be plenty of e-mails to download if I haven't updated the phone inbox for a while (I've set it to update manually because usually I don't need to use the phone for e-mailing). Hence, when checking the e-mail on my phone I'm typically only interested in checking, say, the last 2-24 hours worth of inbox. Is there some way to limit how old e-mails I want to download?

Standard Xperia email app works well but has idiotic limitation, which makes the programme store ONLY 25 emails on the device. So even if you'll store 300 mails on the phone, on the next session everything will be deleted and only 25 mails will stay. Terrible.

Attachements will not be downloaded unless you'll click the specific email to see it.

I used ProfiMail previously, but it just doesn't work on Xperia S. They say they work on a complete revamp of the app,
it was brilliant in the past.

But now I have K-9 mail and it's just great.
[ This Message was edited by: doministry on 2012-03-28 19:04 ]


Posted by worf1000
Who store 300 mails+ on a Phone?

Well, i don't have a problem with that so for me no sucks at all

Posted by doministry

On 2012-03-28 20:49:59, worf1000 wrote:
Who store 300 mails+ on a Phone?

Well, i don't have a problem with that so for me no sucks at all

Me and tons of people who use the device in a profi way for something.
If I want to find something I look through my inbox, not last 25 emails only.
My Xperia has 32GB memory, plenty of space.
I have all of my emails on device, of course some of it only headers or part of it unless I download the whole thing.
I am the customer and I decide what I have on my device.

Every other device allows to sync what you want.
[ This Message was edited by: doministry on 2012-03-28 23:27 ]


Posted by worf1000

On 2012-03-29 00:26:15, doministry wrote:

On 2012-03-28 20:49:59, worf1000 wrote:
Who store 300 mails+ on a Phone?

Well, i don't have a problem with that so for me no sucks at all

Me and tons of people who use the device in a profi way for something.
If I want to find something I look through my inbox, not last 25 emails only.
My Xperia has 32GB memory, plenty of space.
I have all of my emails on device, of course some of it only headers or part of it unless I download the whole thing.
I am the customer and I decide what I have on my device.

Every other device allows to sync what you want.
[ This Message was edited by: doministry on 2012-03-28 23:27 ]



I get your point maybe I'm just not the type of mails man

Posted by NightBlade
I, for one, would definitely want to be able to store more than 25 e-mails.

I hope this gets fixed in an update. ICS, even.

Posted by Spinz

On 2012-03-28 17:23:09, randomuser wrote:

On 2012-03-28 11:43:54, adsada wrote:

On 2012-03-28 11:36:59, randomuser wrote:
Early reports indicate Xperia S is selling like hot cakes everywhere. Flying off the shelves like no . Good start for Sony.


source?



Check XDA, you'll know. Unknown13x also mentioned it today in the hayabusa thread.


Link please

Posted by stais

On 2012-03-28 20:04:02, doministry wrote:
Standard Xperia email app works well but has idiotic limitation, which makes the programme store ONLY 25 emails on the device. So even if you'll store 300 mails on the phone, on the next session everything will be deleted and only 25 mails will stay. Terrible.

Attachements will not be downloaded unless you'll click the specific email to see it.

I used ProfiMail previously, but it just doesn't work on Xperia S. They say they work on a complete revamp of the app,
it was brilliant in the past.

But now I have K-9 mail and it's just great.
[ This Message was edited by: doministry on 2012-03-28 19:04 ]




Thanks. So, basically, since they are always hundreds of e-mails on the server, if I update my e-mail in the phone it will download them all, and then if I close the e-mail app it will delete all but 25 and then when I reopen the app it will once again download all those e-mails?

Posted by doministry

On 2012-03-29 09:43:54, stais wrote:

On 2012-03-28 20:04:02, doministry wrote:
Standard Xperia email app works well but has idiotic limitation, which makes the programme store ONLY 25 emails on the device. So even if you'll store 300 mails on the phone, on the next session everything will be deleted and only 25 mails will stay. Terrible.

Attachements will not be downloaded unless you'll click the specific email to see it.

I used ProfiMail previously, but it just doesn't work on Xperia S. They say they work on a complete revamp of the app,
it was brilliant in the past.

But now I have K-9 mail and it's just great.
[ This Message was edited by: doministry on 2012-03-28 19:04 ]




Thanks. So, basically, since they are always hundreds of e-mails on the server, if I update my e-mail in the phone it will download them all, and then if I close the e-mail app it will delete all but 25 and then when I reopen the app it will once again download all those e-mails?

No it won't. What I'm saying it always keeps THE LAST 25 emails on device and wipes off your phone everything more,
even if you download more, it will wipe it off the phone. Of course, not from the server (until you perform delete of course)

Posted by stais

On 2012-03-29 16:42:34, doministry wrote:
No it won't. What I'm saying it always keeps THE LAST 25 emails on device and wipes off your phone everything more,
even if you download more, it will wipe it off the phone. Of course, not from the server (until you perform delete of course)




Got it, thanks

Posted by Tsepz_GP

On 2012-03-29 01:17:40, NightBlade wrote:
I, for one, would definitely want to be able to store more than 25 e-mails.

I hope this gets fixed in an update. ICS, even.



In ICS the GMail app allows syncing of upto 999 days worth of email, so its sort of fixed it in GMail ,ive set mine to 30days.

EDIT: i just put my GS2 Offline and then went into GMail and yep, Emails from the past 30days were all available to open.
The Email app on the other hand limits to a month, seems Google REALY wants you to switch to GMail.
[ This Message was edited by: Tsepz_GP on 2012-03-29 18:41 ]


Posted by NightBlade
I don't use Gmail, though, and I have no intention of switching any time soon...

Posted by doministry
Exactly, I use different provider too.

Posted by marcink
Doministry, I like your night Straszydło:) photo. But still feel that it will only be in 2013 ehen we actually see some progress in camera dept. form sony. Iso 50 daytime shots aren't good. So much detail is lost:( I understand for such tiny sensors those iso 200+ shots must be either noisy or have strong nr, but for iso 50 shots it's not that good.

Posted by doministry

On 2012-03-30 10:48:23, marcink wrote:
Doministry, I like your night Straszydło:) photo. But still feel that it will only be in 2013 ehen we actually see some progress in camera dept. form sony. Iso 50 daytime shots aren't good. So much detail is lost:( I understand for such tiny sensors those iso 200+ shots must be either noisy or have strong nr, but for iso 50 shots it's not that good.

Until we'll have really larger sensors, no revolutionary changes will be made.
BTW what Straszydlo is

Posted by doministry
http://www.xperiablog.net/201[....]e-now-starting-from-mid-april/


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