Posted by Arne Anka
On 2012-01-11 07:05:32, Big_D wrote:
1) Xperia Ion and the Xperia S are 2 different phones?
There are minor differences, yes.
On 2012-01-11 07:05:32, Big_D wrote:
- Ion is 4.6", S is 4.3".
Yes.
On 2012-01-11 07:05:32, Big_D wrote:
- Ion is thicker than S.
Yes, but not by much (10.8 mm vs 10.6). It is slighty taller and wider as well (133x68x10.8 vs 128x64x10.6).
On 2012-01-11 07:05:32, Big_D wrote:
- Ion is 4G LTE, S is unknown. nowhere did it says S is 4G.
S does not support LTE.
On 2012-01-11 07:05:32, Big_D wrote:
- the buttons, Ion have 4, S have 3 and a clear bar underneath them.
It appears so. However on the Xperia S the soft touch buttons are located at the clear bar, not above. The clear bar also functions as notification LED if I have not misunderstood it.
On 2012-01-11 07:05:32, Big_D wrote:
- Memory card slot: Ion says microSD, up to 32GB, which means it's removable, S says 32GB eMMC, is that removable? I need confirmation.
S : 32 GB non-removable eMMC and no microSD.
ION: 16 GB non-removable eMMC + microSD supporting sizes up to 32 GB.
On 2012-01-11 07:05:32, Big_D wrote:
3) Is the battery removable? rumors says that the Xperia S isn't.
Neither one has removable battery.
On 2012-01-11 07:05:32, Big_D wrote:
I hope it uses the same battery as the Xperia x10 and Xperia PLAY, cuz I have BST-41 and hope to get the best out of them once I switch to a new phone.
Both use bigger batteries (S=1750 and ION=1900) and hence are not compatible with BST-41 anyway.
[ This Message was edited by: Arne Anka on 2012-01-11 15:19 ]
Posted by xell
On 2012-01-11 11:17:45, Arne Anka wrote:
Haven't noticed if ION has 4 soft touch buttons to be honest. What would be the 4:th button be used for ?
Posted by jplacson
I like the magnesium frame... very
... things seem to be looking good for Sony...
Posted by Arne Anka
On 2012-01-11 11:24:19, xell wrote:
On 2012-01-11 11:17:45, Arne Anka wrote:
Haven't noticed if ION has 4 soft touch buttons to be honest. What would be the 4:th button be used for ?
I see. Changed my previous comment accordingly.
Posted by Big_D
On 2012-01-11 08:52:54, Prom1 wrote:
@Big D,
T-Mobile USA uses "4G" being HSPA ... they don't own LTE license do they? Either way the bands for HSPA on T-Mobile USA is different than AT&T's so you're better off getting the Xperia S.
despite the LTE, would the Ion 4G be used when on the T-mobile USA network, or revert back to 3G?
btw, what is the T-Mobile USA network 4G bands?
Posted by DACHA
On 2012-01-11 16:22:07, Big_D wrote:
On 2012-01-11 08:52:54, Prom1 wrote:
@Big D,
T-Mobile USA uses "4G" being HSPA ... they don't own LTE license do they? Either way the bands for HSPA on T-Mobile USA is different than AT&T's so you're better off getting the Xperia S.
despite the LTE, would the Ion 4G be used when on the T-mobile USA network, or revert back to 3G?
btw, what is the T-Mobile USA network 4G bands?
The T-Mobile 3G/4G bands in the US are 1700/1900MHz. T-Mobile uses HSDP+. They do not have LTE 4G.
Posted by DACHA
Because the Ion will be AT&T exclusive there is no way to de-brand it to get rid of all the useless AT&T crap on the phone. Not just that but AT&T take to much time to update the software on the phones.
When I got my X10 it was very simple to de-brand it because it was a global phone.
The only option to get rid of the AT&T crap would be to flash an XDA rom or CyanogenMod and to lose most of the Sony customization.
Dose anyone else know if there are any other option?
Posted by DACHA
Some very interesting details regarding the ION.
http://developer.sonyericsson[....]ria-smartphone-supporting-lte/
[ This Message was edited by: DACHA on 2012-01-11 18:20 ]
Posted by randomuser
PhoneArena sample photos and videos from the Xperia Ion camera, also a comparison with a Panasonic point and shoot. They and the readers seem mighty impressed with the camera performance
http://www.phonearena.com/new[....]on-12MP-camera-samples_id25777
Posted by moogoo
looks pretty good to me... i'm still going with the S though. they should have same camera quality though..
Posted by Big_D
On 2012-01-11 16:35:33, DACHA wrote:
On 2012-01-11 16:22:07, Big_D wrote:
On 2012-01-11 08:52:54, Prom1 wrote:
@Big D,
T-Mobile USA uses "4G" being HSPA ... they don't own LTE license do they? Either way the bands for HSPA on T-Mobile USA is different than AT&T's so you're better off getting the Xperia S.
despite the LTE, would the Ion 4G be used when on the T-mobile USA network, or revert back to 3G?
btw, what is the T-Mobile USA network 4G bands?
The T-Mobile 3G/4G bands in the US are 1700/1900MHz. T-Mobile uses HSDP+. They do not have LTE 4G.
So I wouldn't get any 4G speed? stuck with 3G if I use the phone on T-mobile USA?
Posted by moogoo
bigD.. that's right.. no 4G for you... besides, the ion has non-removable battery.. i thought you weren't interested in any phone with embedded battery?
Posted by Arne Anka
Galaxy Nexus vs. Xperia Ion: Fast Capture Comparison
Posted by lolstebbo
On 2012-01-12 07:06:45, Big_D wrote:
On 2012-01-11 16:35:33, DACHA wrote:
On 2012-01-11 16:22:07, Big_D wrote:
On 2012-01-11 08:52:54, Prom1 wrote:
@Big D,
T-Mobile USA uses "4G" being HSPA ... they don't own LTE license do they? Either way the bands for HSPA on T-Mobile USA is different than AT&T's so you're better off getting the Xperia S.
despite the LTE, would the Ion 4G be used when on the T-mobile USA network, or revert back to 3G?
btw, what is the T-Mobile USA network 4G bands?
The T-Mobile 3G/4G bands in the US are 1700/1900MHz. T-Mobile uses HSDP+. They do not have LTE 4G.
So I wouldn't get any 4G speed? stuck with 3G if I use the phone on T-mobile USA?
No, you'll have 2G. The ion doesn't support 1700 for HSPA, and T-Mobile doesn't use 1900 for HSPA. Once T-Mobile's roaming agreement with AT&T for 850/1900 HSPA is active, however, you will then have access to HSPA on "T-Mobile".
Posted by idumbakumar
why the speaker grill is invisible and so small.. i doubt how powerful its?? is shouldnt be disaster as X10.
Posted by DACHA
On 2012-01-12 22:02:13, idumbakumar wrote:
why the speaker grill is invisible and so small.. i doubt how powerful its?? is shouldnt be disaster as X10.
They had to move it all the way to the top of the phone so the stupid AT&T logo would fit on the top.
On the XPERIA S the speaker is clearly visible by the SONY logo.
Posted by ^^HAMID^^
Hey! is this removable or non-removable battery?
Posted by Arne Anka
Its non removable.
Posted by DACHA
It looks like that the ION and XPERIA S will have better viewing angles than last year XPERIA phones
Posted by DACHA
The XPERIA ION can be preordered for $569.50 unlocked.
Not expensive for an LTE phone with a large screen.
Posted by randomuser
On 2012-01-23 04:15:06, DACHA wrote:
The XPERIA ION can be preordered for $569.50 unlocked.
Not expensive for an LTE phone with a large screen.
Its actually cheaper than the Galaxy S2 and other similar phones.
Posted by dibdin
On 2012-01-13 16:59:36, DACHA wrote:
It looks like that the ION and XPERIA S will have better viewing angles than last year XPERIA phones
Is this likely to be the same for the Xperia S too?
EDIT:
Doh, Just read post again noticed it mention Xperia S too.
[ This Message was edited by: dibdin on 2012-01-23 09:11 ]
Posted by randomuser
Xperia Ion coming in latter half of Q1 not Q2.
http://androidandme.com/2012/[....]ocket-ii-hd-sony-ion-and-more/
Posted by DACHA
Does this resemble the back of the ION?
Posted by idumbakumar
On 2012-01-12 23:19:34, DACHA wrote:
On 2012-01-12 22:02:13, idumbakumar wrote:
why the speaker grill is invisible and so small.. i doubt how powerful its?? is shouldnt be disaster as X10.
They had to move it all the way to the top of the phone so the stupid AT&T logo would fit on the top.
On the XPERIA S the speaker is clearly visible by the SONY logo.
seems u missed my point. i meant the loudspeaker at the back.
sad that no stereo speakers for quite a long time on a high end devices..
Posted by DACHA
On 2012-02-18 05:29:15, idumbakumar wrote:
On 2012-01-12 23:19:34, DACHA wrote:
On 2012-01-12 22:02:13, idumbakumar wrote:
why the speaker grill is invisible and so small.. i doubt how powerful its?? is shouldnt be disaster as X10.
They had to move it all the way to the top of the phone so the stupid AT&T logo would fit on the top.
On the XPERIA S the speaker is clearly visible by the SONY logo.
seems u missed my point. i meant the loudspeaker at the back.
sad that no stereo speakers for quite a long time on a high end devices..
It is not that small
Posted by az_ajay
Wow great news. Sony confirmed in MWC 2012 that the Xperia ion will be launching outside the United States at some point during 2012..
Posted by roanmy
Wonder what "Some point" means. I want this one.
Posted by Arne Anka
On 2012-02-27 17:09:46, roanmy wrote:
Wonder what "Some point" means. I want this one.
Summer
Posted by Supa_Fly
On 2012-02-27 19:17:40, Arne Anka wrote:
On 2012-02-27 17:09:46, roanmy wrote:
Wonder what "Some point" means. I want this one.
Summer
3 buttons or 4 like AT&T model?
Posted by Arne Anka
Don't know. Sony only mentioned the international release time of ION at MWC. They did not mention anything about the button configuration so I assume it is same as for AT&T.
Posted by Supa_Fly
Man this is taking too long to be available in retail stores. I know its not supposed to ship yet but Sony should give us more details over this not just to ignore it.
Posted by Arne Anka
Aren't AT&T already selling it (I thought they were suppsoed to sell it by now) ?
Posted by Supa_Fly
On 2012-03-04 20:39:48, Arne Anka wrote:
Aren't AT&T already selling it (I thought they were suppsoed to sell it by now) ?
Q2 2012 begins in April, so we're still a month away.
Posted by Supa_Fly
Is there no recent news of this Ion device?
Nothing on a date for the global version to ship, or just continue holding out on hope?
Am I the only one looking forward to this device.
Posted by DACHA
another big failure by Sony. The HTC One X just got announced by ATT for May 6th and there is still no word on the ION.
Posted by randomuser
Ion launch soon.
http://www.pocketdroid.net/at[....]eady-to-launch-soon#more-26320
Posted by Supa_Fly
On 2012-04-20 14:43:17, randomuser wrote:
Ion launch soon.
http://www.pocketdroid.net/at[....]eady-to-launch-soon#more-26320
Awesome news! Gracias.
Dacha ... this is an AT&T exclusive for a few months at launch - a USA provider.
Posted by Bonovox
Xperia Ion was always to me the much better looking device over the Xperia S. Really nice
Posted by DACHA
On 2012-04-29 08:15:33, Prom1 wrote:
On 2012-04-20 14:43:17, randomuser wrote:
Ion launch soon.
http://www.pocketdroid.net/at[....]eady-to-launch-soon#more-26320
Awesome news! Gracias.
Dacha ... this is an AT&T exclusive for a few months at launch - a USA provider.
That is exactly what I wrote. The Ion got announced in February and it is still not available for AT&T while the HTC One X will be on sale in a few days. By the way I am an ATT costumer.
Now there are rumors that the Ion is not coming to AT&T at all, but instead AT&T will get the Hayabusa in Q3.
Posted by Supa_Fly
On 2012-04-29 16:42:01, DACHA wrote:
On 2012-04-29 08:15:33, Prom1 wrote:
On 2012-04-20 14:43:17, randomuser wrote:
Ion launch soon.
http://www.pocketdroid.net/at[....]eady-to-launch-soon#more-26320
Awesome news! Gracias.
Dacha ... this is an AT&T exclusive for a few months at launch - a USA provider.
That is exactly what I wrote. The Ion got announced in February and it is still not available for AT&T while the HTC One X will be on sale in a few days. By the way I am an ATT costumer.
Now there are rumors that the Ion is not coming to AT&T at all, but instead AT&T will get the Hayabusa in Q3.
Dacha, that is NOT what you wrote - not even by inference - see the quote above.
Yes we know its exclusive to AT&T ... things change ... and to be honest I'd rather a slight change: 3 buttons vs 4, and a smooth & flush 3.5mm jack.
Still I'd like to see this really do well spec and most importantly performance wise. I honestly don't think the majority of global Android users give Sony good credit; ICS looks very similar to what SE has been doing all along to Android.
Posted by DACHA
Xperia ion coming to Taiwan at end of May; United States in June
http://www.xperiablog.net/201[....]ited-states-in-june/#more-6743
Posted by sambouka
Just received my ION from en ebay seller shipped to France.
First thing I checked were the bands/networks and IT HAS GOT LTE
Check the screenshot
In the box: well quite empty with only the fast charger, no smart tags and no hdmi cable.
The phone has a premium feel due to the metal back, I find it less "angular" than the Xperia S, so more hand friendly.
More to come as I spend some time with it.
[ This Message was edited by: sambouka on 2012-06-19 20:06 ]
Posted by rikken
Congrats
Looking forward to hearing more about it
Posted by xperia_man
I have had my ION for over a week mine had the same LTE setting but i am now running pre release ICS OFFICIAL SONY ROM thanks to my friend who has EMMA and LTE is no longer there
Posted by sambouka
Do you think it is a software thing?
I mean on the retail box it is written : LT28i LTE ...
No LTE in France to test!
Posted by sambouka
Ion has a premium feel compared to my more plasticky Xperia S
On the software side seems like the Gingerbread version is a real old one...
Not present are:
- 3D Album app
- 3D camera app
- stopwatch
- timer
- world clock
- themes do not include live wallpapers, "cosmic flow" static images
The screen colors are more saturated than those of xperia S
Here are some comparison shots at maximum brightness (which is on par with the S)
[ This Message was edited by: sambouka on 2012-06-20 08:48 ]
Posted by doministry
Design wise X S is better for me, Ion looks like any other Moto or HTC....
Posted by sambouka
On 2012-06-21 11:27:53, yuunanase wrote:
Currently, there are 3 versions of Xperia ion AT&T (LT28at), Xperia ion LTE (LT28i) and Xperia ion HSPA (LT28h). We here in Hong Kong has the i version despite it is the wrong frequency for LTE to work, the maximum speed we get will be 21Mbps. Singapore has the h version, but the speed is up to 42Mbps!
[ This Message was edited by: yuunanase on 2012-06-21 10:30 ]
Posted by Supa_Fly
On 2012-06-21 12:31:16, sambouka wrote:
On 2012-06-21 11:27:53, yuunanase wrote:
Currently, there are 3 versions of Xperia ion AT&T (LT28at), Xperia ion LTE (LT28i) and Xperia ion HSPA (LT28h). We here in Hong Kong has the i version despite it is the wrong frequency for LTE to work, the maximum speed we get will be 21Mbps. Singapore has the h version, but the speed is up to 42Mbps!
[ This Message was edited by: yuunanase on 2012-06-21 10:30 ]
Um, that would seem odd. If I'm not mistaken or if GSMArena's data is not mistaken, the Xperia Ion should support ALL 3 LTE bands (700/1700/2100Mhz) and thus should be capable of the full data speeds supported by the network, no? Also the "H" version you speak of (nothing exists in LTE called "H") most likely refers to the Dual-Band HSPA+; as mentioned by the 42Mbps data speeds.
Man I feel old: I recall using an
T39m with 52Kbps data speeds (that's Kilobits) and thinking THAT was fast - 16greyscale screen.
Can anyone confirm the official Android 4 release for Ion date, and what new "REAL" world features it'll bring?