Posted by Bonovox
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Sony-Xperia-ion-Review_id3061
Xperia Ion review on Phone Arena
Posted by annafee
Just read the review....I'm still not convinced about the display part with the GSIII, i mean the GSIII uses pen tile but they didn't even mention that so it's no where near as the Ion's display in term's of detail. I didn't notice that they mentioned this. Moreover the thing about more contrast in the One X and the S3 is plain useless. how can you call them excellent displays and over the Ion's if the colours are way off t5he mark.......their display looks plainly unnatural.......i'd pick the Ion's display over those two any day.....!!
Posted by Bonovox
Me neither. The GS3 display is not as sharp and the colours on the Ion are more natural and is sharper pixels wise. Here is a two part video review. Phone Arena tend to be manners in reviews.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJNaDhc184g&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Posted by rikken
Engadget review : http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/24/sony-xperia-ion-review/
Posted by titus1
It's PhoneDog...Bono
Posted by Supa_Fly
On 2012-06-24 20:40:47, rikken wrote:
Engadget review : http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/24/sony-xperia-ion-review/
AT&T will have this for $99/US on 3yr Contract. Also coming to Canada but which carrier is still unknown: Rogers, Telus Mobility, Bell Mobility (not likely hardly any Sony/SonyEricsson relationships in the past to speak of).
Personally, I still love my iPhone 4S - not just because of the simplicity (although highly limiting) but mostly because of the plethora of accessories (looking at the Bose SoundDock 10 this month) - however I think I may settle on this Xperia Ion as an upgrade before the next iPhone makes/breaks expectations. Pricing in the US is solid and to be honest of Sony/AT&T open up NFC Wallet purchasing apps/partnerships this WILL take off.
Posted by chunkybeats
I can get an Ion from Asia pretty easily but just wondering would the phone support some wallet services here in NZ? They have invented a Snapper service (bit like Oyster card in London) where you tag on the bus with your phone and and tag off, and you can also pay other things with it. At the moment the only phone supporting it is an LG of some sort, but if I get the Ion with its NFC capability would it work? Or is that a question to the developer? I would love to get the Ion, money pending of course, I need to win the lottery!!
Posted by Bonovox
Just realised Phone Dog review said it has 8 mega pixel camera
Posted by annafee
^^^
Yup and 4.5 inch display!!!
. They need to get the spec right!
The Xperia Ion just got a 50% price slash on At&t, gr8 news....this is hands down an irresistible offer!!!
Hey about the Engadget review, i am really confused, The XS and the Ion should sport the same 12mp camera but looking at the review they didn't like the XS camera but they liked the Ion's camera.......
.
Posted by rraz9228
On 2012-06-24 22:55:13, Prom1 wrote:
On 2012-06-24 20:40:47, rikken wrote:
Engadget review : http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/24/sony-xperia-ion-review/
AT&T will have this for $99/US on 3yr Contract. Also coming to Canada but which carrier is still unknown: Rogers, Telus Mobility, Bell Mobility (not likely hardly any Sony/SonyEricsson relationships in the past to speak of).
I can buy it directly from Sony for $49.99 for 2 yr contract with at&t. I will pick up one this week from best buy.
Posted by Supa_Fly
This is the Xperia Ion HSPA edition ???
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_ion_hspa-pictures-4798.php
Red?!
Posted by Detox
Two more reviews from Phone Arena: The first is against the Samsung Galaxy S III and the second is against the HTC One X. Also, Xperia Blog compiled many reviews in one place.
[ This Message was edited by: Detox on 2012-06-30 12:20 ]
Posted by Detox
Another one from Phone Arena, this time against the LG Nitro HD:
http://www.phonearena.com/rev[....]eria-ion-vs-LG-Nitro-HD_id3078
GSMArena review is up:
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_ion_att-review-784.php
The battery test from GSMArena:
http://blog.gsmarena.com/sony[....]tery-test-here-go-the-results/
The Sony Xperia ion Android 4.0.4 Ice Cream Sandwich update has just been certified by the PTCRB:
http://www.xperiablog.net/201[....]-certified-for-att-xperia-ion/
Posted by Supa_Fly
On 2012-07-10 20:50:15, Detox wrote:
...
The Sony Xperia ion Android 4.0.4 Ice Cream Sandwich update has just been certified by the PTCRB:
http://www.xperiablog.net/201[....]-certified-for-att-xperia-ion/
Dis right thar!
Detox you're on fire dude!!
Do you own the Ion?
btw, in the USA AT&T seems to be offering a bundle on XPeria Ion + Smart Watch!
I'm VERY curious how:
Xperia Ion/Xperia S+Smart Watch+Wireless Headset Pro work together for daily/weekly/monthly tasks?!
Posted by FMW300
Xperia P in pink & red, Ion in red:
Posted by Detox
On 2012-07-23 05:27:30, Prom1 wrote:
On 2012-07-10 20:50:15, Detox wrote:
...
The Sony Xperia ion Android 4.0.4 Ice Cream Sandwich update has just been certified by the PTCRB:
http://www.xperiablog.net/201[....]-certified-for-att-xperia-ion/
Dis right thar!
Detox you're on fire dude!!
Do you own the Ion?
btw, in the USA AT&T seems to be offering a bundle on XPeria Ion + Smart Watch!
I'm VERY curious how:
Xperia Ion/Xperia S+Smart Watch+Wireless Headset Pro work together for daily/weekly/monthly tasks?!
. No, I own the Xperia S. Who knows, if the Ion was available earlier ...
After a Tablet S WiFi 16GB and a black Xperia S, the SmartWatch is the last gadget (or rather accessoire like my cradle for the Tablet S?) left on this year's wish list at the moment. Damn you, Sony
.[ This Message was edited by: Detox on 2012-07-23 18:25 ]
Posted by Big_D
I just found out about the HSPA+ version that available on Sony UK website.
Major QUESTION: Will the HSPA+ able to use 4G on T-Mobile USA 4G? the specs seems that this phone have the bands, 1700 and 2100, in order to use the 4G on T-mobile.
if it can, then I have to seriously consider this or the Xperia Acro S.
I hope someone can reponse soon.
Posted by mediar
On 2012-06-30 13:20:27, Detox wrote:
Two more reviews from Phone Arena: The first is against the Samsung Galaxy S III and the second is against the HTC One X. Also, Xperia Blog compiled many reviews in one place.
[ This Message was edited by: Detox on 2012-06-30 12:20 ]
Well, why am I not surprised that Phone Arena finds the other three devices - SGS3, HTC One X and LG Nitro HD better than the Ion? And why did they change the wallpaper from Sony's depressing black to this sweet colorful Touchwiz-like background? Not to mention Ion's poor performance in terms of browser, camera and multimedia.
Posted by Tsepz_GP
Mediar i couldn't agree more with your signature
nail on the head.
Posted by mediar
It took me some time to read all the reviews Xperia blog has collected here - http://www.xperiablog.net/201[....]on-review-roundup-att-edition/ and all I can say is that I fully agree with all of them. Ion is nothing more that a mid-range phone, and as one of the reviews says - "Mid-range phones are all about compromise, and the Xperia ion is definitely compromised." Same applies to Xperia S, GX, the rest of the 2012 Xperia line. I came to the conclusion that you'll buy them only if you don't mind the old processor, OS, bad performance, design, display, camera and multimedia and Sony's unappealing and ugly UI skin with all that bloat. That's it. As thay say - if you want something more - go for Samsung, HTC, LG, Motorola, Apple, MIUI or the rest. Xperia phones are only for die-hard Sony fans or people, looking for something cheap ( even though they're quite expensive for what you get, especially without contract ).
Posted by randomuser
^
Yes and do us a favor and leave this "sony forum" and post only in Samsung,LG, HTC, MIUI, Motorola, Apple forums
You really shouldn't waste your precious time on Sony
Posted by Tsepz_GP
On 2012-08-24 11:27:06, mediar wrote:
It took me some time to read all the reviews Xperia blog has collected here - http://www.xperiablog.net/201[....]on-review-roundup-att-edition/ and all I can say is that I fully agree with all of them. Ion is nothing more that a mid-range phone, and as one of the reviews says - "Mid-range phones are all about compromise, and the Xperia ion is definitely compromised." Same applies to Xperia S, GX, the rest of the 2012 Xperia line. I came to the conclusion that you'll buy them only if you don't mind the old processor, OS, bad performance, design, display, camera and multimedia and Sony's unappealing and ugly UI skin with all that bloat. That's it. As thay say - if you want something more - go for Samsung, HTC, LG, Motorola, Apple, MIUI or the rest. Xperia phones are only for die-hard Sony fans or people, looking for something cheap ( even though they're quite expensive for what you get, especially without contract ).
Sad part is that the potential is there to make something truly outstanding, the Acro S proves that, wish they could stop all the compromising and just hit us with something groundbreaking, they arent going to make a profit off of die-hard fans.
Posted by Supa_Fly
On 2012-08-24 11:48:02, randomuser wrote:
^
Yes and do us a favor and leave this "sony forum" and post only in Samsung,LG, HTC, MIUI, Motorola, Apple forums
You really shouldn't waste your precious time on Sony
Randomuser, i completely agree - however his signature DOES raise an important insight into Sony Mobile
"Sony still makes a confusing catalog of gadgets that overlap or even cannibalize one another. And for none of them we can say ‘This contains the best, most cutting-edge technology."
Sony's Xperia line, like SonyEricsson's previous line - has too much overlap.
Features
Price points (most especially in the same markets/target market)
Sony Mobile really only needs 6 devices; 2 for each segment
Low End
Mid End
Top Tier fighter class.
(2 for each as 1 for each segment is global while the other is for Japan/Korea design tastes).
Also Sony Mobile needs to keep the design language the same for at least 8/12mths for each segment before mixing it up so much. Xperia J/T looks like the Arc, as if going backwards, when the Xperia S/Ion/P/U all have the NXT design language and are selling very well.
basically Sony needs RAZORSHARP focus!
Posted by mediar
On 2012-08-24 18:13:57, Hardened wrote:
Sony's Xperia line, like SonyEricsson's previous line - has too much overlap.
No, no, that's wrong. SE 2011 used different approach - all the phones had the same specifications with the screen size the main difference. You need a big screen - we have Arc for you. You want a small screen - we have the same great phone with smaller screen, named Mini. These phones did not overlap - they just worked as single phone that fits everyone's needs and classes. Well, the Arc might not have been on par with the competitors ( SGS 2 or HTC Sensation ), but their mid- and low-class were killers! Let's compare:
2011:
You want a good phone with:
very small screen -> Mini / with keyboard -> Mini Pro
small screen -> Ray
normal screen -> Neo / with keyboard -> Pro
big screen -> Arc
You see - there is a phone for everyone.
2012:
You want a phone with:
very small screen -> none;
small screen -> Tipo / Tipo Dual
normal screen -> Miro / Go / SX / Neo L /Sola / U / P
big screen -> SL / Acro S / GX / Acro HD / S / Ion
That's what i call overlaping. And there're even more to come. Furthermore the smaller the screen is, the weaker the processor is. So if you want a phone with small screen, you have no other choice than stick with poor hardware, camera, multimedia... That's unfair.
Posted by Supa_Fly
Unfortunately, you're ONLY thinking about screen sizes.
Overlapping is also related to the target market (marketing 101; which Sooo many company's forget to use).
Price points! No matter what feature or design of a product has/is if it is Too close in price to another with less (than that lessor product no longer sells well) or more (the higher priced product will not sell well: Xperia P vs S).
SE
1. Xperia Active, W8
2. Txt Pro, Xperia mini Pro, Xperia Pro (do we need differentiation of Mini Pro vs Pro, especially with less than $100 difference?)
3. Neo, Neo V, Vivaz,
Ion ... is the only unique Xperia currently in features (front camera, MicroSD expansion, HD recording 720 front/1080 rear, and LTE 3 band support). However its price point undercuts Xperia S (at least in Canada & USA for both subsidy on contract or retail pricing). The ONLY reason its NOT selling so well is those 4 buttons and limited advertising in the USA. In Canada Rogers - a well known and healthy partner of SE, now Sony - is advertising this bad boy like a mother loves her daughter. hehehe.
Marketing should also clearly define each products use/features/uniqueness and well target market in print/online/video/point-of-sales.
Posted by Tsepz_GP
Finally some people who get what im trying to say about Sony!
Hardened, that is exactly it! They must streamline the portfolio, as they used to in the beginning of the SE joint venture. Right now they are making the very same mistake that had them in free fall from 2007 onwards until Android rescued them, between 07 and end of 09 they had many products overlapping and having strange comprnmises, remember the gorgeous Aino and its limited touch display? and the many Walkman models that didnt have a proper built-in 3.5mm jack until the W995 arrived? They have comeback full circle.
The strategy they had with the X10 and its Mini variants made more sense.
The X10 was the high end with the best hardware at the time, it was the halo device of the portfolio then you had the X10mini, X10MiniPro and X8 filling mid to low end, that worked well other than the updates debacle, the range wasnt confusing and all models were clearly differentiated and they had focus.
Posted by Supa_Fly
^ Right on.
I love the following products and I hope Sony does a better job in 2013 to have the price points and product mix unique enough for each market.
Xperia X1 (I'd love for a high-end pro full-qwerty/touchscreen landscape slide to evolve using Android! I think Motorola lost their touch with RAZR-based Droid 5).
Xperia S - unique enough to suit mid-to-top tier for full touch; for top-tier this should've gotten an S4/S4 Pro or Tegra 3 cpu (nothing less) along with the Aluminum body of the Xperia P, maybe stereo speakers (placed on either side at the top of left/right-side of the device out of a persons hand-grasp).
Xperia U - great product that fits the niche of users that want the Xperia S/P combo yet could not afford it at retail or at contract pricing of S/P combo.
Xperia Ion and similar carrier-branded unit for Verizon/AT&T/Vodafone/Orange/T-Mobile, 1 unit slightly different shells to suit them all. This is something Nokia, SE, and Motorola never got, and ONLY Samsung could do and they did it well with all the SGS II variants! I applaud them for that.
Posted by newnagasaki
Will the Xperia Ion (HSPA Version) work on Tmobile's 4G/3G network? The phone DOES have 1700 and 2100 bands implemented into it.
Has anyone heard any news on this?
Posted by king-james
The ION will be available here in germany end of this week at the latest next week, HALLELUJA!!!
[ This Message was edited by: king-james on 2012-09-04 18:31 ]
Posted by Ranjith
Xperia line-up is really getting confusing
and that too without battling any of the top contenders in the market.
Posted by lolstebbo
On 2012-08-24 18:59:25, mediar wrote:
On 2012-08-24 18:13:57, Hardened wrote:
Sony's Xperia line, like SonyEricsson's previous line - has too much overlap.
No, no, that's wrong. SE 2011 used different approach - all the phones had the same specifications with the screen size the main difference. You need a big screen - we have Arc for you. You want a small screen - we have the same great phone with smaller screen, named Mini. These phones did not overlap - they just worked as single phone that fits everyone's needs and classes. Well, the Arc might not have been on par with the competitors ( SGS 2 or HTC Sensation ), but their mid- and low-class were killers! Let's compare:
2011:
You want a good phone with:
very small screen -> Mini / with keyboard -> Mini Pro
small screen -> Ray
normal screen -> Neo / with keyboard -> Pro
big screen -> Arc
You see - there is a phone for everyone.
2012:
You want a phone with:
very small screen -> none;
small screen -> Tipo / Tipo Dual
normal screen -> Miro / Go / SX / Neo L /Sola / U / P
big screen -> SL / Acro S / GX / Acro HD / S / Ion
That's what i call overlaping. And there're even more to come. Furthermore the smaller the screen is, the weaker the processor is. So if you want a phone with small screen, you have no other choice than stick with poor hardware, camera, multimedia... That's unfair.
I'd say another way to look at the lineup would be there's a core line and then various splinter phones.
2011 core: Arc, Neo, Mini
Arc -> Arc S, Ray
Neo -> Play, Pro, Neo V
Mini -> Mini Pro, Active, Live
2012 core: GX/T/TX, S, P, Miro
GX/T/TX -> SX, V
S -> Acro S, Ion
P -> Sola, U, Go/Advance
Miro -> Tipo, Tipo Dual, J
The Neo L is more like a carryover from last year, if anything, so I'll choose to ignore it.
This way, it seems less overlapping since the "core" line covers the size/price range, with the splinter phones covering some kind of niche. For the 2011 phones, the main distinction would be the screen sizes (but I'd consider the Ray to be more derived from the Arc; most reviewers agree with this sentiment). For the 2012 phones, the main distinction would be the platforms (S4, S3, U8500, and S1). I feel like it's less confusing to look at it this way. Sure, there's more phones this year, but I don't feel like there's that serious of an overlap issue.
Posted by Detox
Xperia ion LTE (LT28i) Android 4.0.4 ICS update starts rolling out:
http://www.xperiablog.net/201[....]ics-update-starts-rolling-out/
Posted by Big_D
anyone knows if the Xperia Ion HSPA+ is capable of utilizing T-Mobile USA 3G and even 4G speeds? I know T-Mobile 4G is not the real 4G speed compared to LTE, but it's better than nothing. I just need some confirmation.
Posted by king-james
ION is still not available in germany, but many online shops say it will come next week...
But the price is too high! 500,-Euros for a over 9 month old device! That is definately too much! Who buy it? Everybody will buy Xperia T the Bond phone for same price here!!!
Sony must correct the price of the ION to under 400,-Euro! The Xperia S cost here at the moment 350,-, so 350-400 are realistic for the ION but not 500,- IMO!
Posted by mediar
On 2012-09-22 14:08:08, king-james wrote:
ION is still not available in germany, but many online shops say it will come next week...
But the price is too high! 500,-Euros for a over 9 month old device! That is definately too much! Who buy it? Everybody will buy Xperia T the Bond phone for same price here!!!
Sony must correct the price of the ION to under 400,-Euro! The Xperia S cost here at the moment 350,-, so 350-400 are realistic for the ION but not 500,- IMO!
9 months after the announcement and still not released?! That'll beat even Xperia Pro's record! But... DAT PRICE!
Posted by Arne Anka
On 2012-09-22 19:37:47, mediar wrote:
9 months after the announcement and still not released?! That'll beat even Xperia Pro's record! But... DAT PRICE!
It has been out since mid August here in scandinavia and can be found for around 468 EUR.
[ This Message was edited by: Arne Anka on 2012-09-22 18:50 ]
Posted by Detox
Sony Xperia ion for AT&T ICS update is now available:
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_[....]s_now_available_-news-4862.php
Posted by luwi
Got my xperia ion hspa version for $427 (sim free). Only issue so far is battery drained very fast! Though it is a great solid phone.
Posted by king-james
I've got my baby yesterday! HSPA Version in Black/Red
Here some pics
[ This Message was edited by: king-james on 2012-09-30 16:09 ]
Posted by rikken
Looks great
ICS yet ? How is the camera ?
Posted by king-james
Yeah, ICS was installed already... I didn't test the camera yet.
[ This Message was edited by: king-james on 2012-09-30 16:49 ]
Posted by motvikt
Beautiful, best looking device 2012 imo
Posted by randomuser
On 2012-09-30 18:31:30, motvikt wrote:
Beautiful, best looking device 2012 imo
+1. I think so too
Posted by luwi
On 2012-09-30 17:48:46, king-james wrote:
Yeah, ICS was installed already... I didn't test the camera yet.
[ This Message was edited by: king-james on 2012-09-30 16:49 ]
try to update it bro. new build number (6.1.E.1.20) is available. it improved the performance but still the battery drained very fast (didn't last for 8hrs in normal usage). battery sucks!
Posted by king-james
Thanks for the info bro! I am updating it at the moment via PCC.
I tried before to do that over WiFi but it says I have the latest version already...
[ This Message was edited by: king-james on 2012-09-30 20:49 ]
Posted by Bonovox
Screen looks amazing!!
Posted by king-james
luwi, I have installed the latest update now, but I didn't notice anything?! Do you or anybody know the changelog of this update?
[ This Message was edited by: king-james on 2012-10-01 16:32 ]
Posted by luwi
On 2012-10-01 17:32:08, king-james wrote:
luwi, I have installed the latest update now, but I didn't notice anything?! Do you or anybody know the changelog of this update?
[ This Message was edited by: king-james on 2012-10-01 16:32 ]
i found the capacitive buttons little more responsive but the rest seems the same..
Changelog seems not available right now. I'm trying to google it, no luck.. hehe
Btw, how's your battery performance? Mine is draining so fast eventhough in standby mode.
Posted by king-james
I think it is same like before, but it is to early to say this.
I have reached three times max. 5,5h display on with the realease version. Played a lot, mostly surfing over wifi and also played music and videos...
The battery is better than my "old" Xperia S... but not better than the ARC.
Now I need time to test it after the new update. Haven't recharged it since yesterday... Thanks for your help! I'll keep U up to date!
[ This Message was edited by: king-james on 2012-10-01 18:04 ]
Posted by Supa_Fly
Could you see how the battery life is on a separate full-charge with LTE turned off please (if that is possible)?
Solid device that should've had the now standard Android 3 buttons; the ONLY reason I'm getting a Moto RAZR HD vs the Ion on my target list.