Posted by laffen
Apple today announced iPhone 4S with A5 processor, 8 megapixel camera, 1080p HD video capture and iOS 5 operating system
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The new Apple CEO Tim Cook was the host of today's Apple event. It is hard to have the same charisma as the former Apple CEO Steve Jobs so he skipped the blabla and went directly to the core of the event. Namely praise Apple products and tell everyone how fast the Apple market share has grown compared to competitors.
The Apple App Store is printing money for Apple. They have paid out 3 billion US to developers. Apple itself is keeping 30% of the cost of each and every app which means they have had a revenue of 1,28 billion the last quarter. Over 18 billion apps have been downloaded so far and over 1 billion apps are being downloaded each month.
iOS 5, Apples new operating system will be available on October 12th. It was announced and released to developers earlier this year. The iOS 5 introduces iCloud Storage, a 5GB free cloud storage for Mail, Documents and Backup. Purchased music, apps, books and Photo stream do not count against the storage limit.
Finally, the new iPhone 4S was introduced. It has a A5 dual core processor which are up to 2x faster. iPhone 4S also have dual core graphics which are promised to be 7 times faster. The battery time has increased from 7 to 8 hours on 3G talk time. 2G talk time, 3G browsing, video and music playback has got the same battery time as the iPhone 4. Time on Wi-Fi browsing has decreased from 10 to 9 hours. Apple has made the iPhone 4 a world phone which means that it has support for both GSM and CDMA networks. The older iPhone 4 came in either GSM or CDMA versions.
As all the other high-end smartphones, the iPhone 4S now has got a decent 8 megapixel camera. And like many dual core models, the iPhone 4S can capture 1080p HD video.
Apple bought the company Siri back in April which was know for the creation of an app good at voice recognition. The app could understand commands such as "send a taxi to my house" using GPS and speech-recognition technology. The features developed by Siri is now integrated into the iPhone 4S. It works with English, French and German languages and will work with built-in apps such as maps, calendar, maps and contacts. Siri will only run on iPhone 4S.
On October 14th, iPhone 4S will be available in U.S, Canada, Australia, U.K, France, Germany and Japan. 21 European countries plus Mexico will get the new phone on October 28th. Surprisingly, Apple has announced a smartphone in two colours. iPhone 4S will be available in white or black.
iPhone 4S will be sold in 16 GB, 32 GB and 64 GB versions. The price for these are 199$, 299 and 300$ respectively. The older iPhone 4 and iPhone 3GS will still be available for sale. 99$ for iPhone 4 8GB and the 3GS will be free on contract.
To sum up the announcement and look at what new the iPhone 4S brought us:
- Combined GSM and CDMA networks (GSM/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900, UMTS 850/900/1900/2100, HSPA 14.4/5.8, CDMA EV-DO Rev.A 800/1900)
- 8 megapixel camera
- 1080p video capture
- A5 dual core processor
- Bluetooth 4.0
- iOS 5
- iCloud
- Siri
The iPhone 4S size is identical to iPhone 4 but it has gained 3 gram weight. Something not being highlighted today was the introduction of Bluetooth 4.0. iPhone 4S is the first smartphone we know of having version 4.0 of the low energy Bluetooth stack.
Posted by masseur
The queue starts here!
I'll be getting another white, of course, and 64gb.
The upgrades here, combined with the iCloud, Siri, music match etc are going to make the iphone 4S even hard to put down for me
Posted by adsada
How this will be popular is still beyond me, Apple fans have waited 16 months and for what? Really anything revolutionary at all? No just keeping up with other manufacturers.
Apple are disgusting, nothing more, nothing less.
Posted by korbindallis
crap nothing new in this announcement
Samsung Galaxy Note
or
Nexus Prime
FTW
Posted by daviep
might not see the usual big queues outside apple stores on release day
Posted by Bonovox
The 1080p,8 meg camera & dual core is nice. But. After 16 months why did they not re-design & have a larger screen?? And why did they not move that gap with the antenna issue was??
Posted by etaab
I dont think it does keep up with other manufacturers. And, i doubt anyone will even know the 4S has been released if they miss the news today. If they walk past an Apple store, i dont think they'd even notice the S on the end of the 4.
Posted by masseur
as I said elsewhere, this is clearly a refresh while they focus on the software and icloud aspects.
@etaab, perhaps they should have called it the 4gs? as the 3gs certainly got very noticed and it wasn't a particularly major upgrade from the 3g
and tell me any manufacturer who consitantly provides the number of software and/or hardware feature upgrades that Apple has in the iPhone in the last 4 years?
Posted by Bonovox
Not
anyway. I guess it's the same as releasing the Arc S really.
Posted by julias
They should rename it after today as the iphone 4F (Fail).
Posted by Bonovox
Be careful masseur will be unhappy with your comments like he was with mine 
Posted by rikken
or iPhone S. . . . . .ucks
Posted by julias
On 2011-10-04 23:36:34, Bonovox wrote:
Be careful masseur will be unhappy with your comments like he was with mine
Don't worry masseur can take a joke and is no Apple fanboy. (I think?)
Posted by xperia_man
What a Load of crap apple needs to realise you can only try this once as they did with the 3G to 3GS stands for iPhone4Shit
I was hoping this would beat the HTC Titan the only thing better is the 32GB and 64GB storage
APPLE this is your Failure point .
Posted by mriley
I think everyone was expecting a shift like we saw between the 3GS to the 4G. Although, since when was that how Apple ran the company? They're all about small fairly minor upgrades between models but market those changes as revolutionary. That's how they make their money, it's pretty rare that you get such a great revolutionary improvement between products.
What I wanna know is why didn't Tim Cook present the iPhone 4S instead of some random person that nobody's seen before?
The only exciting thing about the launch was Siri, imo.
[ This Message was edited by: mriley on 2011-10-04 22:52 ]
Posted by Bonovox
Steve Jobs is ill still isn't he??
Posted by julias
On 2011-10-04 23:52:49, Bonovox wrote:
Steve Jobs is ill still isn't he??
Yes but still chairman of Apple pulling the strings.
Posted by Bonovox
Oh so he never fully stepped down then??
Posted by julias
On 2011-10-04 23:58:18, Bonovox wrote:
Oh so he never fully stepped down then??
Oh no that was only cosmetic as he wanted to concentrate on his health but he still very much in the driving seat at Apple.
Posted by goldenface
I find that with Voice activated stuff, it only works well if the environment you use them in is quite quiet - which is not all the time, but if they can get past this then it will be impressive.
Posted by julias
On 2011-10-05 00:12:12, goldenface wrote:
I find that with Voice activated stuff, it only works well if the environment you use them in is quite quiet - which is not all the time, but if they can get past this then it will be impressive.
Exactly voice commands are again nothing new and is very old news now which Apple claim to be something they somehow invented well most of us know here that its been done and is nothing but a gimmick and rarely works properly Windows Phone has this feature now and it only works in certain places and conditions and i doubt apples version will be any different.
[ This Message was edited by: julias on 2011-10-04 23:24 ]
Posted by masseur
I don't use voice control on my Garmin GPS in the car as I agree that is next to useless, but I've never had trouble using the existing voice command on iphone 4 to dial numbers in busy areas likes London Bridge station.
I'll reserve judgement on this Siri until I have tried it. Unfortunately it wasn't a part of the iOS 5 beta...
Posted by chunkybeats
This will be interesting as people who love Apple will feel cheated as they really go for looks and not for functionality and really that cool factor has worn off now, especially when they try show off their new devices it will basically be iphone 4 so a flop! Sony Ericsson you rule and now you can come back and get some of that market share Apple stole from you!
Posted by goldenface
On 2011-10-05 00:34:09, chunkybeats wrote:
This will be interesting as people who love Apple will feel cheated as they really go for looks and not for functionality and really that cool factor has worn off now, especially when they try show off their new devices it will basically be iphone 4 so a flop! Sony Ericsson you rule and now you can come back and get some of that market share Apple stole from you!
That's what I was just about to post - for the image conscious, the iP4s looks like the upgrade.
Ironically, the Samsung GSII probably looks like what people were expecting the next iPhone to look like - slimmer, faster, brighter.
Posted by masseur
so actually, its sounding to me that most people are dissapointed that the media based hype has not met media based expectations in the direction of hardware while, at the same time, there seems to be little chatter in the blogs etc about iCloud and other latest offerings
Thats probably as most except beta testers have yet to experience it but I'm confident that when it is available next week, even those that have used mobile me and .mac (which I never did but read much about), will be more than impressed, not to mention the cheap offerings of music match to improve most of our music library quality etc.
...and why would Apple make something that looks like the SGS2? surely thats just asking for trouble
(not that I would have minded!)
Posted by Haribolman
Apart from the phone continuing to look about ten years out of date with it's flat, featureless body, small screen, massive borders and way-out-of-fashion rounded corners, what does it offer? Move along, nothing to see here. All Apple has done is made it even easier for companies like
to continue releasing phones that are fashion statements as well as feature rich.
Anyway, now that we know the phone is identical in looks to the previous model, what does that say about all the liers who claimed to know how it would look? Nice way to ruin your credibility guys! Tail between legs!
Posted by masseur
I appreciate that everyone has their own idea of beauty but as most of your post is about looks, do I understand that your judgement is wholly based on appearance and not capabilities?
are most companies not reducing their form factors to minimise buttons and maximise use of soft keys etc? this improves reliability and also flexibility
indeed it seems that most devices/tablets etc are becoming flat and apparantly featureless... thats the advantage of touch screen technology isn't it?
Posted by goldenface
Exactly!
I've no doubt it will sell by the bucket load still and with the lead they are in at the moment I guess they can rest on their laurels for a while but with the success they have had over the past few years it would be impossible for them to live up to the hype created by the media - curved screen, teardrop shape, an iPhone mini etc.
Who knows, they might have been affected by component shortages, delayed the ip5 and resorted to the next best offering.
Posted by Hardened
I really think that Apple has reached the pinnacle of their mobile device dream. Many had thought the iPad was the evolution of the Newton ... it wasn't. It was a necessary step to the Knowledge Navigator ... just like Siri used in the iPhone 4S.
For those that don't know ... think about the direction of the laptops using SSD with the MBA (2011 Love mine), the iPhone 4S+Siri, and the iPad 2 ....
Think of how developers can create the next generation of applications using Siri as an API (no this won't happen this next 12mths but soon after we will see incredible changes).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mLqJNDWx-8
Posted by argiriano
So how many iSuicides in US last night...?
PS: As I sad for me personally user experience is far more important than cutting edge hardwere and I`m sure iPhone 4 S will deliver in that respect and will sell pretty well. Also I`m sure it`s camera will be class leading once again, but it`s still not enough for me to buy one... as I just prefer something sweet like ICS than sour apples.
Posted by c96sthl
it just seem Steve giving a breathing space for Nokia and RIM now with 4S.
since it can likely draw people who like unique ID away as 4S look like iPHONE4
of course for those who need the power...its still an interesting product on spec.
Posted by NoroBiik
On 2011-10-05 09:11:23, c96sthl wrote:
it just seem Steve giving a breathing space for Nokia and RIM now with 4S.
since it can likely draw people who like unique ID away as 4S look like iPHONE4
of course for those who need the power...its still an interesting product on spec.
Actually Nokia&RIM won't get any advantage from the release of the 4S - their products are way subpar in comparison. But for Android, it's a different story.
Posted by Tsepz_GP
On 2011-10-05 09:11:23, c96sthl wrote:
it just seem Steve giving a breathing space for Nokia and RIM now with 4S.
since it can likely draw people who like unique ID away as 4S look like iPHONE4
of course for those who need the power...its still an interesting product on spec.
This is a very unpredictable industry, there is no such thing as giving breathing space to competition, just ask Nokia, it took one average product (N97) for customers to leave and find something more exciting which was the iPhone3GS at the time as well as the HTC Hero.
With Android Ice Cream Sandwich and the ICS devices coming as well as the Nokia Windows Phones, and new RIM devices, Apple may be in a bit of a pickle, no doubt the 4S will sell, but I doubt it will do as well as they expect, I could be wrong though.
Posted by Bonovox
Well the 3GS sold well after the 3G. I wouldn't say RIM are much of a threat to Apple sales. Maybe Nokia might be because i have a feeling many people are curious about the new Nokia Windows devices. Me included
Posted by skblakee
This is Samsung's opening. Nothing exciting, just playing catch up with rest. 1080p, dual core processor more ram? Nothing new, nothing fancy. The other manufacturers just need to make the integration of these items as smooth as Apple does.
I see Samsung is claiming that Apple is infringing on their 3g patents.
Go Sammy go!
Posted by Bonovox
But with Android and dual core it is as fluid as iOS. I for one hated the Safari browser. Has the ram increased in the new iphone??
Posted by skblakee
Apple is not letting on on the amount of ram but as soon as they are available to the public no doubt someone will find out the amount of RAM. There is little doubt that they would increase the RAM however. Recording 1080p videos and playback will require them to have more.
I don't see a reason for paying more for a phone that remains more or less tethered to Apple and now catching up to Android than for an SGS2, Nexus Prime or SGS3
Posted by etaab
On 2011-10-04 23:10:02, masseur wrote:
@etaab, perhaps they should have called it the 4gs? as the 3gs certainly got very noticed and it wasn't a particularly major upgrade from the 3g
I actually wish they hadnt bothered to be honest. I really do. I think the iPhone 4 design is great, i think its powerful enough for what it can do. I think the camera is great but not market leading, everything about the iPhone 4 was cool, great and fun. They should have just updated the software to iOS 5 imo, like Nokia are doing with Symbian Belle.
This 4S is so unecessary to me because of its price point. Yeah theres still the 3GS and 4, but the problem with those is the 3GS looks old and obsolete compared to the 4 and 4S, whilst the 4 is still too much like the 4S. They even look identical. They should now knock the 3GS into the history books, stick the 4 down to £150 on payg in the UK and keep the 4S at a mid range price. To think Apple are charging the same wad of cash for something that has only had a minor upgrade is robbery.
Posted by Bonovox
The iphone down to £150 on pay as you go?? Dream on
That is cheaper than the ipod touch. They would probably do £150+ £200 top up Apple should also put some settings in the camera too
Posted by johnd
I have received 2 e-mails from Apple today 1 US and 1 UK, links below. The US version is priced at $199 and the UK version at £499
US http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone
UK http://store.apple.com/uk/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone
Whats that all about?????
Posted by masseur
the US one is on a 2 year contract (see the footnote), the UK one is sim free.
Posted by tranced
This is a worth watching iP4S
Posted by Dups!
A 4.3'' screen would've been nice. I am really underwhelmed by the overall package. On another note, the iPhone was never really about impressive specs but the user experience and so I expect it to be impressive in that area.
The screen size bothers me a great deal!
Posted by Bonovox
Samsung moves to block iphone 4s sales
www.mobilenewscwp.co.uk/2011/10/samsung-moves-to-block-iphone-4s
Posted by etaab
Heh, lets hope Samsung are successful getting it banned worldwide - we might get the iPhone 5 then !
Posted by Bonovox
Then they will try & block that too but I doubt they can ever block it worldwide 
Look at Expansys front page
[ This Message was edited by: Bonovox on 2011-10-05 17:23 ]
Posted by apolloa
You know what the best advice for iPhone 4 owners is? Keep your iPhone 4 and try iOS 5 when it is released on October 12th then you can see if keeping the iPhone 4 for another year is a better idea then getting an iPhone 4S and then wait for the iPhone 5.
[ This Message was edited by: apolloa on 2011-10-05 18:27 ]
Posted by julias
You'd think the smart people at Apple might check for this kind of thing in advance, but alas. Japan's giggling in the wake of iPhone 4S' birth, as voice control wizard Siri sounds a lot like shiri—ass. Oops!
http://blogs.wsj.com/japanrea[....]-japan-siri-fans-bottom-jokes/
Posted by Bonovox
It's already on phones4U website now. I guess these forums are busy all over the net now
Posted by julias
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