Posted by HYPER-X10
On 2011-02-22 13:02:16, unknown_x wrote:
Ehmm, with that horrible quality and bad framerate, how can you see if there is no lag?
Actually, there is something different in that vid compared to all other vids of the Arc I've seen.
As far as I can tell, the pictures in the timescape widget aren't refreshing every time the screens are swyped.
In other vids of the Arc, this reloading of the timescape widget is what seems to cause the lag. Maybe they have fixed that issue finally?
It certainly does seem to have less lag, low framerate or not.....
Posted by unknown_x
On 2011-02-22 14:16:18, dibdin wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?[....]67051&kw=sony%20ericsson%20arc
This is much faster, especially the timescape app, however i keep noticing some lag while swyping through desktops and when "pinching & zooming your widgets"
, i've been watching some desire HD reviews and it's a bit smoother than the ARC, i compare them because the HD is almost the same hardware.
Posted by avmaxfan
Arc talktime 7 hrs
X10 - 10 hrs
Posted by drinki
On 2011-02-22 16:20:40, avmaxfan wrote:
Arc talktime 7 hrs
X10 - 10 hrs
Crawl back to where you came from!
Posted by rontysee
Camera samples of Arc and some comparisons with x10
http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/124/4582193/
Posted by mode
Don't think the comparison is conclusive since the X10 had image stabilizer on which kinda deteriorates the quality of daylight photos although I do use as it performs quite well in low-light situations, especially for photos with family and friends where you have to rely on a stranger's hands for a snap
Posted by Ricke77
On 2011-02-22 14:59:46, unknown_x wrote:
This is much faster, especially the timescape app, however i keep noticing some lag while swyping through desktops and when "pinching & zooming your widgets"
, i've been watching some desire HD reviews and it's a bit smoother than the ARC, i compare them because the HD is almost the same hardware.
From Rikard Skogberg at Sony Ericsson Product Blog:
Even though we have a very busy schedule down here I have had time to follow the online buzz a little bit. It seems that the reporting on our new products is spreading wildly and almost all media seems to think our new products are great and that we’re on the right track.
I have seen some remarks on lag when using some functions etc and I just thought I should make clear that from a software perspective these new models are not final yet. We still have some weeks to finalize the software and there will be further fine-tuning of performance before launch. Just an important thing to remember – the “final” verdicts will come when we got our launch software out for reviews with media at launch.
I have seen some remarks on lag when using some functions etc and I just thought I should make clear that from a software perspective these new models are not final yet. We still have some weeks to finalize the software and there will be further fine-tuning of performance before launch. Just an important thing to remember – the “final” verdicts will come when we got our launch software out for reviews with media at launch.
Posted by mode
X10 seemed destined to succeed when it was announced. Now it is considered a failure by many. Don't let bad programming kill the Arc as it did the X10
Posted by HxH
XPERIA Arc pre-order price available for Thai market now is around 470 euros after converted.
And Neo also out as it available around 353 euros. Both sim-free
Not bad for low performed market when compare to other conutry in this region.
Posted by unknown_x
On 2011-02-23 08:02:58, Ricke77 wrote:
From Rikard Skogberg at Sony Ericsson Product Blog:
Even though we have a very busy schedule down here I have had time to follow the online buzz a little bit. It seems that the reporting on our new products is spreading wildly and almost all media seems to think our new products are great and that we’re on the right track.
I have seen some remarks on lag when using some functions etc and I just thought I should make clear that from a software perspective these new models are not final yet. We still have some weeks to finalize the software and there will be further fine-tuning of performance before launch. Just an important thing to remember – the “final” verdicts will come when we got our launch software out for reviews with media at launch.
I have seen some remarks on lag when using some functions etc and I just thought I should make clear that from a software perspective these new models are not final yet. We still have some weeks to finalize the software and there will be further fine-tuning of performance before launch. Just an important thing to remember – the “final” verdicts will come when we got our launch software out for reviews with media at launch.
Well, Rikard said so many things...where is DLNA? and the "famous UPX" with improved timescape and mediascape?
I know it's his job but the x10 has fallen into oblivion in that blog so many times that it's hard to believe anything...
We'll see the reviews.
Posted by >500
@unknown_x
I think the point Rikard is trying to make, and one ive been saying in other forums, is at this point, I think many are OVERLY critcising
, despite the fact their new handsets are still only running pre release firmwares.
The same thing is not happening on the same scale for other manufacturers...
Posted by unknown_x
The same thing is not happening on the same scale for other manufacturers...
That's true, but it may be because the other manufacturers(or at least samsung) aren't showing this kind of lag in their pre-release firmwares.
Posted by Arne Anka
On 2011-02-23 09:54:54, unknown_x wrote:
Well, Rikard said so many things...where is DLNA?
True, DLNA was promissed in May/June 2010 in the SE blog and then forgotten as it seem. There are however DLNA apps on the Android Market one can use instead.
On 2011-02-23 09:54:54, unknown_x wrote:
and the "famous UPX" with improved timescape and mediascape?
I know it's his job but the x10 has fallen into oblivion in that blog so many times that it's hard to believe anything...
UXP is the name of the UI users of X10 have been using from day one (nothing new), so I'm not sure what you are referring to with "famous UXP" and the updates to media- and timescape came with the latest X10 update (whether you like it or not is a matter of opinion).
[ This Message was edited by: Arne Anka on 2011-02-23 11:19 ]
Posted by unknown_x
True, DLNA was promissed in May/June 2010 in the SE blog and then forgotten as it seem. There are however DLNA apps on the Android Market one can use instead.
DLNA was promissed since day ONE and it wasn't there, then it was promissed to come with the "GREAT UPX UPDATE", and we are still waiting for it.
On 2011-02-23 09:54:54, unknown_x wrote:
and the "famous UPX" with improved timescape and mediascape?
I know it's his job but the x10 has fallen into oblivion in that blog so many times that it's hard to believe anything...
UXP is the name of the UI users of X10 have been using from day one (nothing new), so I'm not sure what you are referring to with "famous UXP" and the updates to media- and timescape came with the latest X10 update (whether you like it or not is a matter of opinion).
I'm referring to the "GREAT UXP UPDATE", in the last update we only recieved dualtouch and a mediascape update which doesn't have the old nice animations and only adds playlists and landscape mode. Timescape is the same, with the same widget too( there were some pics with the x10 showing the same timescape widget the xperia ARC has), let's remember what Rikard said about this:
Some examples of user benefits that will be included in the UXP upgrade for Xperia™ X10 in Q4 2010 are:
- Upgrade to Android OS version 2.1------->yes
- HD video recording as per the same execution as Sony Ericsson Vivaz™------>yes
- Wireless home connectivity via DLNA------->no, and it's seems it will never be added.
- Improvements to signature applications Timescape™ and Mediascape to make them even smarter and richer--------->no, Mediascape loses cool animations, gains playlists and landscape mode and it's VERY FAR from the 3dgallery smoothness and speed, sorry but if these are "improvements to signature apps to make them even smarter and richer"...they failed.
With this i'm not criticizing the X10, just trying to say that Rikard is not the best source for trusted information, it's their job and they are trying to sell their mobile phones, as soon as reviews come, we will see if it is smooth or not.
[ This Message was edited by: unknown_x on 2011-02-23 12:16 ]
Posted by se_dude
http://www.youtube.com/watch?[....]&feature=player_embedded#at=26
@unknown_x I am sure you call this fast.
Posted by unknown_x
On 2011-02-23 17:33:41, se_dude wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?[....]&feature=player_embedded#at=26
@unknown_x I am sure you call this fast.
Yes, that's it.
Posted by se_dude
I thought you would say that. You are officially a troll now.
Posted by unknown_x
On 2011-02-23 18:59:41, se_dude wrote:
I thought you would say that. You are officially a troll now.
Exactly why? where do you see lag there?
Posted by se_dude
Let me see.
When he first tries to swipe open the screen.Now that is just the start. The animations are choppy, moving through the menus is extremely choppy i can go on and on. Oh wait, the camera "loads" whereas in the arc in the same time frame u can take more than 10 clicks
Posted by unknown_x
On 2011-02-23 19:32:25, se_dude wrote:
Let me see.
When he first tries to swipe open the screen.Now that is just the start. The animations are choppy, moving through the menus is extremely choppy i can go on and on. Oh wait, the camera "loads" whereas in the arc in the same time frame u can take more than 10 clicks
is that Choppy? then what is this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc7zAP-UNUU
I only see a bit of lag here and there in that video, the same that you can notice even in the iphone 4, nothing compared to the actual pre-release firmware that the arc was running at the MWC
[ This Message was edited by: unknown_x on 2011-02-23 18:37 ]
Posted by gatoblanco
docomo Xperia Arc SO-01C
http://gpad.tv/wp-content/upl[....]_so01c_arc_20110224_panf11.png
Posted by rontysee
On 2011-02-23 19:34:56, unknown_x wrote:
On 2011-02-23 19:32:25, se_dude wrote:
Let me see.
When he first tries to swipe open the screen.Now that is just the start. The animations are choppy, moving through the menus is extremely choppy i can go on and on. Oh wait, the camera "loads" whereas in the arc in the same time frame u can take more than 10 clicks
is that Choppy? then what is this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc7zAP-UNUU
I only see a bit of lag here and there in that video, the same that you can notice even in the iphone 4, nothing compared to the actual pre-release firmware that the arc was running at the MWC
[ This Message was edited by: unknown_x on 2011-02-23 18:37 ]
Xperia arc is fairly smooth. There are only a few areas where there is any lag. The most noticeable lag is in the pinch-to-overview widgets. Other than that, it lags on the home screens containing the photo widget, timescape widget and the favorite contact widget. The reason for this lag is that all these three widgets refresh every time you move through the 5 home screens. These widgets need to be optimized to refresh faster. But, if you dont use these widgets, the lag will not exist.
You can see it here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFldMC_2dgI
In the silver arc, the timescape widget is not configured and so there is no lag on that page. The lag is only present in the page containing the photo widget.
You can see from all the videos that there is absolutely no lag when moving through the menu or the media gallery or browsing the internet. The cam is also way faster than the one on Galaxy s2.
Anyways, the fact of the matter is that galaxy s2 is really fast and so it should be. But, the xperia arc is almost as fast as the GS2. There is no significant performance boost due to the dual-core processor. Once the Android OS is optimized to use dual-core processors, there will be some noticeable performance boost. But that has atleast 6-8months to go. By that time,
will have their dual-core phone ready. For now, arc is the best looking android phone with a very smooth UI and one of the best cams. Its not the fastest phone in the market but it is definitely not slow in any way.[ This Message was edited by: rontysee on 2011-02-23 23:57 ]
Posted by pavlov's_dog
problem solved
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CW8RmASk-M
Posted by Arne Anka
On 2011-02-23 12:39:43, unknown_x wrote:
- Improvements to signature applications Timescape™ and Mediascape to make them even smarter and richer--------->no, Mediascape loses cool animations, gains playlists and landscape mode and it's VERY FAR from the 3dgallery smoothness and speed, sorry but if these are "improvements to signature apps to make them even smarter and richer"...they failed.
As I said, that's a matter of opnion, nothing more, nothing less. Your expectations differs from what SE had in mind.
[ This Message was edited by: Arne Anka on 2011-02-23 23:56 ]
Posted by arcmhyke
Once the Android OS is optimized to use dual-core processors, there will be some noticeable performance boost. But that has atleast 6-8months to go. By that time, will have their dual-core phone ready.
this is a great move by SE, dual-core processors in mobile is not yet fully optimized, or cant really tell the difference from a single core to from a dual core, lag is present in every gadgets we have
, that is normal.
and i think SE is will release their dual core phones(Xperia Duo?) as soon as these cores have been optimized to android and will really make a difference from a single core, SE is not in a hurry, like they said they learned a lot from last year android experience, and they are doing it now
Posted by unknown_x
Xperia arc is fairly smooth. There are only a few areas where there is any lag. The most noticeable lag is in the pinch-to-overview widgets. Other than that, it lags on the home screens containing the photo widget, timescape widget and the favorite contact widget. The reason for this lag is that all these three widgets refresh every time you move through the 5 home screens. These widgets need to be optimized to refresh faster. But, if you dont use these widgets, the lag will not exist.
You can see it here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFldMC_2dgI
In the silver arc, the timescape widget is not configured and so there is no lag on that page. The lag is only present in the page containing the photo widget.
Yeah, i noticed that too in the other video i posted, obviously, it would be VERY STRANGE that this kind of phone lags everywhere and it's mainly related to those widgets.
You can see from all the videos that there is absolutely no lag when moving through the menu or the media gallery or browsing the internet. The cam is also way faster than the one on Galaxy s2.
Yep, the camera is probably the fastest i've ever seen, it's really good, about the gallery, i see it faster on the galaxy SII, probably thanks to the high amount of internal memory.
Anyways, the fact of the matter is that galaxy s2 is really fast and so it should be. But, the xperia arc is almost as fast as the GS2. There is no significant performance boost due to the dual-core processor. Once the Android OS is optimized to use dual-core processors, there will be some noticeable performance boost. But that has atleast 6-8months to go. By that time, will have their dual-core phone ready.
will have their dual-core phone ready.
Well, i'm not really sure about that, let's review some info:
-The next android version(2.4 probably gingerbread again) is just an update that provides support for multicore apps from 3.0 in singlecore devices and also will improve OS and apps perfomance in multicore gingerbread devices.
-The Xperia ARC was caught showing 2.4 android version, Rikard denied it was an update, he said it was a "misconfiguration", but then it was said that there is true that a 2.4 version exists and that SE would be probably the first manufacturer updating to this version.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/[....]e-on-a-prototype-sony-ericsso/
-Unknown13x, a SE insider at XDA said that "guys, SE never said anything about 2.3, they just told us that their devices will have gingerbread
"[ This Message was edited by: unknown_x on 2011-02-24 09:39 ]
Posted by unknown_x
-There is a rumor(i read it@ engadget but can't find the article now) that talks about all devices jumping directly to android 2.4 keeping android 2.3 just for the nexus one and nexus S, this could mean that all the new gingerbread phones would come with 2.4 android version.
-Acer viewsonic viewpad 4 is supposed to be released in April with 2.4
http://www.engadget.com/2011/[....]pril-headed-to-viewsonic-view/
It's seems it is much closer than we think, otherwise it's normal if it is just an update that only adds multicore support.
For now, arc is the best looking android phone with a very smooth UI and one of the best cams. Its not the fastest phone in the market but it is definitely not slow in any way.
That's a fact, it's the best looking android phone(and probably the best looking phone at all) and can't be discussed, but i'm very afraid of SE and their strange methods, for example, now i read in GSMarena that the ARC will have 320MB of internal memory, even with apps2Sd, i really hope this is not true, because i can't understand why they do this knowing that our X10 has 1GB.
That's an improvement
Don't know why but i posted all this in one single post but it was always cutted out, even if i edit the text to make it smaller...
[ This Message was edited by: unknown_x on 2011-02-24 09:51 ]
Posted by mode
On 2011-02-24 05:10:45, mhyke wrote:
...and i think SE is will release their dual core phones(Xperia Duo?) as soon as these cores have been optimized to android and will really make a difference from a single core...
They're gonna start at the very least with their first tablet billed S1 when it makes more sense to do so. But most will not be able to see this point since the most powerful devices seems to generate the most buzz http://techcentral.my/news/st[....]ews/20110223111754&sec=it_news
[ This Message was edited by: mode on 2011-02-24 14:47 ]
Posted by SKIBBE
Was thinking of buying the ARC but i saw it went up to like 5000sek from 4700sek the other day @misco.se (5mil) from where i live.
Posted by smclion102
Xperia arc gets new ‘Sakura Pink’ colour in Japan
XperiaBlog
[ This Message was edited by: smclion102 on 2011-02-24 14:27 ]
Posted by SKIBBE
Pink! awesome! SE finaly listen to me
the female part of the world will buy this even quicker than it takes to turn be down at the clubs [ This Message was edited by: SKIBBE on 2011-02-24 13:56 ]
Posted by laffen
On 2011-02-24 12:44:10, SKIBBE wrote:
Was thinking of buying the ARC but i saw it went up to like 5000sek from 4700sek the other day @misco.se (5mil) from where i live.
Prisjakt.se 4649,-
Posted by dibdin
Does anyone have any idea if Sony Ericsson will include any of their own exclusive live wallpapers for the Arc??
Posted by unknown_x
Wow pink, that's for Paris Hilton
My GF would have liked a white version, like xperia PLAY
On 2011-02-24 14:58:20, dibdin wrote:
Does anyone have any idea if Sony Ericsson will include any of their own exclusive live wallpapers for the Arc??
Unless they are live wallpapers( i've seen one that is like the one we have in the x10), everyone with root and rootexplorer can provide them, i extracted them from my x10 and they work in other phones.
[ This Message was edited by: unknown_x on 2011-02-24 14:06 ]
Posted by SKIBBE
@laffen yeah but i don't really trust those companies
and buy it from the store will let me have the phone a day earlier?
Posted by MyP910
hmm... quite surprise why xperia Arc has no lag (less) compared to samsung galaxy S2. galaxy S2 is using dual core. Is it because its running alpha code ? or is it running only on single core instead of 2 ?
Posted by SKIBBE
MyP910 android 2.3 has no special code/support for dual cores as far as i know, so it wount boost the performance just becaus it has dual core.
Posted by HxH
Globally Available for Sakura Pink
I'm solddddddddddddddd!!!
Posted by Xajel
Is there's any more news about real-world battery life ?
Posted by mariozlp
a video showing arc in pink.
http://vimeo.com/20319515
Posted by Ricke77
No more DLNA?? It has been removed from
page and removed on the Whitepaper.
Posted by goldenface
On 2011-02-25 15:29:09, Ricke77 wrote:
No more DLNA?? It has been removed from
page and removed on the Whitepaper.
It's no big loss. Are there not DLNA apps on market now?
There is one called 'iMediaShare'. Look it up.
[ This Message was edited by: goldenface on 2011-02-25 14:58 ]
Posted by Johan_74
on page 10 and 13 you have DLNA in whitepaper from 16 Feb http://developer.sonyericsson[....]08/379/1297841625/arc_WP_4.pdf
Posted by unknown_x
On 2011-02-25 17:37:34, Johan_74 wrote:
on page 10 and 13 you have DLNA in whitepaper from 16 Feb http://developer.sonyericsson[....]08/379/1297841625/arc_WP_4.pdf
Phone memory: up to 320MB...
I can't understand this decision...[ This Message was edited by: unknown_x on 2011-02-26 00:42 ]
Posted by tai020381
Cas you will be able to install applications to your card instead.
Posted by Xajel
Hmmm, I donno if any body saw that, but can the standby screen in the new phones operate in landscape mode ?
Posted by Wishmaster89
Can anyone confirm once and for all if the Arc truly supports USB on-the-go just like the new GS II?
Posted by rog
Xperia arc Unboxing video: http://www.se-first.com/Xperia-arc-unboxing-video.html
@Wishmaster89: I would like to try that for you, but I think I'm missing the necessary cable - or is there another way to verify?
[ This Message was edited by: rog on 2011-02-26 10:04 ]
Posted by SKIBBE
Looks real nice, but why not ship it with a nice BT-headset like the x10 for this multimedia beast is some what a disapointment
Posted by Wishmaster89
@Rog if there's no microUSB to female USB cable in the retail box(like with nokia n8) it means there's no USB OTG:(
The only way would be trying the cable that comes with n8.
EDIT: Or you could just check the system if there's any sign indicating that there could be USB OTG support(maybe something in settings or file explorer), it would be real shame if it turned out that rumour was false
[ This Message was edited by: Wishmaster89 on 2011-02-26 10:55 ]