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Posted by London Andy
http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/sh[....]phone/sony-ericsson-xperia-arc
Posted by northmonkey
I hope the flash actually flashes on this phone unlike on the X10, Also why do no android phones have xenon flash? If SE added this it would be a real winner.
Posted by Xajel
About sensor, in the white-paper and arc official page, I see mentions to only accelerometer.. I mean no acc+gyro combination ( or what is known as 6 axe's )... can any body confirm if there's a gyroscope or not ?
if not then I suppose Xperia Play will have this... I really hope 
add this for thier high-end phones like arc !!
Posted by masseur
yet another comparison
Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc vs. LG Optimus 2X... fight!
Posted by rickster2kuk
Arc comes out on top.
Hope they sort the lag out thou before release.
Posted by masseur
Hope they sort the lag out thou before release.
now... where have I heard that before!? 
Posted by Bonovox
Posted by Luhccas-U1a
Why use homescreen when we have Launcher Pro 
?
Posted by Ricke77
A nightvideo shot by Arc. I think it does a pretty nice job.
ExmorR
Posted by Ravager
On 2011-02-05 10:35:23, Ricke77 wrote:
A nightvideo shot by Arc. I think it does a pretty nice job.
ExmorR
Very good job 
That sensor and optics in an android cybershot phone with plasma flash, that would make my day 
Posted by rickster2kuk
So is the grid sliding menu (ala iphone) unique to SE or is it part of gingerbread. Really like it, it's one of the criticisms I have of the current menu, it can be hard to find stuff sometimes. It's great to have a menu where you can move icons around and sort how you like.
Posted by HxH
Sample video look promising for 720p recording
Posted by smclion102
Video: Another Review Video Sony Ericsson Xperia ™ arc, the best smartphone exceptional Xperia ™
http://www.youtube.com/watch?[....]3bYSrY&feature=player_embedded
Posted by Bonovox
On 2011-02-05 10:35:23, Ricke77 wrote:
A nightvideo shot by Arc. I think it does a pretty nice job.
ExmorR
I thought Exmor only worked in still photos not video. Also audio does not sound great
Posted by io_bg
On 2011-02-05 21:20:10, Bonovox wrote:I thought Exmor only worked in still photos not video. Also audio does not sound great
After all, both the still camera and the video one use only one image sensor, don't they? 
Posted by xperia_man
Played with a Prototype yesterday it was a acceptance unit with NOV 2010 software on board and this thing is awesome
CAMERA UI is amazing and it can take shots one after the other with no lag
Feels lightweight and perfect in the hand like the X10 does well worth the upgrade IMHO
Posted by Arne Anka
On 2011-02-05 21:20:10, Bonovox wrote:
I thought Exmor only worked in still photos not video. Also audio does not sound great
It's the Bravie Engine for the screen that only works for videos and photos. Exmor is the camera sensor and it's same both for stills and videos. Regarding the audio, the guy recoding is sitting in a noisy car, possibly with open windows, so no wonder you perceive the audio as "no good".
[ This Message was edited by: Arne Anka on 2011-02-05 21:53 ]
Posted by Bonovox
I know Exmor is for the camera 
Posted by northmonkey
Can someone clarify is the LED a photo light like the X10? Or does it actually flash?
Posted by Ricke77
It flashes. Dont now if it makes any difference thou...
[ This Message was edited by: Ricke77 on 2011-02-06 09:09 ]
Posted by io_bg
On 2011-02-06 08:00:00, Ricke77 wrote:
It flashes. Dont now if it makes any difference thou...
No This won't make it more powerful I think
Hoping to see good cameraphone from with a xenon flash, too.
Posted by MrCash
Guys what about the internal memory ? It's about 320 mb only
How can we install apps in a Memory like this
Plz don't say that I have to move every single app to the external memory after installing it !
That would take forever ..
I thought x10 had a 1 gb ?? Can someone explain why the hell they put smaller one in Arc ???
...
Posted by argiriano
On 2011-02-06 16:45:26, MrCash wrote:
Guys what about the internal memory ? It's about 320 mb only
How can we install apps in a Memory like this
Plz don't say that I have to move every single app to the external memory after installing it !
...
Relax, Android 2.3 let you install all of your apps on the memory card.
[ This Message was edited by: argiriano on 2011-02-06 15:59 ]
Posted by dancingfate
On 2011-02-06 16:57:50, argiriano wrote:
On 2011-02-06 16:45:26, MrCash wrote:
Guys what about the internal memory ? It's about 320 mb only
How can we install apps in a Memory like this
Plz don't say that I have to move every single app to the external memory after installing it !
...
Relax, Android 2.3 let you install all of your apps on the memory card.
[ This Message was edited by: argiriano on 2011-02-06 15:59 ]
Really? AFAIK some applications do not let us move them from phone memory to memory card (e.g. Flash Player, etc.)
Besides, Android do not have the option to directly install the application to memory card but install on the phone memory first then move to memory card after installed (if only it is allowed by the apps developer).
CMIIW.
Posted by Residentevil
is famous for underestimating memory. Look back at the P990 disaster. Let's just hope the final edition of the arc will have enough memory to compete with it's rivals.
Posted by Haribolman
I now you guys are all excited about the Arc, but it's not doing it for me. Every video I watch I notice how difficult the Arc is to hold comfortably in the hands. Because it is so thin, there is very little side surface to grip and because the back of the Arc curves the wrong way people seem to delicately balance the phone in their fingertips, unable to rest it in their hands, looking like they're about to drop it! By contrast, the X10 was designed to fit the human hand, and is comfortable and natural to hold.
Also, the enormous area above the top of the display is more than double the area on the X10 and looks completely out of balance. The screen is positioned towards the bottom of the phone, instead of being centered. This is especially noticable when viewed in landscape, with the screen being positioned to the right of center. Too much real estate around a screen dates a phone (the iCrap is a good example of dated design!). Once again, by comparison, the X10's screen reaches closer to the edges of the phone and makes it look up to date.
[ This Message was edited by: Haribolman on 2011-02-07 06:59 ]
Posted by puestadelsol
Will be possible to change the default blue theme?
Am I the only one who is bothered by the blue theme, which dominates the whole UI? If i'll find a SE android phone with the specifications which fits my tase I'll want to personalise the appearance of UI as i did with my SE phones in the recent 6 years...
Posted by Arne Anka
It appears Arc is coming to Sweden at 22:nd March.
http://www.mobil.se/articles/[....]c-kommer-22-mars-1.389165.html
Posted by mediar
On 2011-02-07 07:57:21, Haribolman wrote:
I now you guys are all excited about the Arc, but it's not doing it for me. Every video I watch I notice how difficult the Arc is to hold comfortably in the hands. Because it is so thin, there is very little side surface to grip and because the back of the Arc curves the wrong way people seem to delicately balance the phone in their fingertips, unable to rest it in their hands, looking like they're about to drop it! By contrast, the X10 was designed to fit the human hand, and is comfortable and natural to hold.
Also, the enormous area above the top of the display is more than double the area on the X10 and looks completely out of balance. The screen is positioned towards the bottom of the phone, instead of being centered. This is especially noticable when viewed in landscape, with the screen being positioned to the right of center. Too much real estate around a screen dates a phone (the iCrap is a good example of dated design!). Once again, by comparison, the X10's screen reaches closer to the edges of the phone and makes it look up to date.
[ This Message was edited by: Haribolman on 2011-02-07 06:59 ]
+1000000! 
Posted by domipost
@mediar @haribolman
First of all: I too hate thin phones because they are crappy in the hand and I gotta say that the X10 is much better in that aspect than the arc. But: people do buy thin phones because they think it's cool or something (dunno actually, but they do buy them). And for a thin phone the arc is fabulous to hold. I compared it with the Optimus Black and the difference is huge. Same goes for the Galaxy S and undoubtly the Galaxy S2.
About the display: that could've been better indeed, but I don't think most people care.
Posted by Supa_Fly
I wonder if SE has realized that they have a cult like user following - not unlike Apple has always had theirs in the computing space. ESATO has grown this user base - I can attest to that almost being here for 8yrs on & off.
Posted by Karun
On 2011-02-08 05:16:45, Prom1 wrote:
I wonder if SE has realized that they have a cult like user following - not unlike Apple has always had theirs in the computing space. ESATO has grown this user base - I can attest to that almost being here for 8yrs on & off.
I agree. And its this loyal fan base that's saving them from serious embarassment. I myself have been around fr 7-8 years, always sticking to their products. The question is how long can they continue in the same vein? Its just now that things have started looking good, but I'd love to see them going back to their innovative,gamechanging ways, their bottomline might not permit that currently, but surely hoping for it in the near future.
Posted by wangbu
i wonder how much this phone to
phone prices in philippines . i want to buy it
[ This Message was edited by: wangbu on 2011-02-08 05:38 ]
Posted by goldenface
2011, I think, will see SE back to its best. Although, it seems to have left behind the Cyber-shot and Walkman devices. Is this a good thing?
Posted by smclion102
I Believe in this new CEO he should change things for now..
I guess ERICSSON is not fully supporting the company.. I see only SONY Trying really hard here.. What do you guys think.?
Posted by Dups!
It's not that Ericsson is not supporting this company but that Sony has too many brands that are being used by SE that makes you see more of Sony than Ericsson.
Sadly, this one of the major reasons why some clueless and ignorant people start screaming 'Sony should dump Ericsson'.
Let's not forget that SE is an entirely separate company with its own identity.
Posted by SKIBBE
i remeber then Sony produced phones without Ericsson, pure crap!
Posted by dibdin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvUnXUp0bhI
Posted by OffLineR
On 2011-02-08 14:28:58, SKIBBE wrote:
i remeber then Sony produced phones without Ericsson, pure crap!
Useful features with useless UI and design
Posted by c96sthl
On 2011-02-08 10:09:20, smclion102 wrote:
I Believe in this new CEO
he should change things for now..
I guess ERICSSON is not fully supporting the company.. I see only SONY Trying really hard here.. What do you guys think.?
this show how poor you know about the company.
there's many other remark commenting about this
but don't you know SE is using Ericsson mobile platform?
Ericsson stressed on the day they allow the mobile phone unit to merge with Sony is to leverage Sony experience in consumer electronics while they offer their know how in mobile network to form SE.
Posted by avmaxfan
On 2011-02-08 14:28:58, SKIBBE wrote:
i remeber then Sony produced phones without Ericsson, pure crap!
That's your opinion. And just like you, there are others who think SONY made great phones. Especially the CMD Z5.
And if SONY went solo today, there is no doubt they would come out with phones that are extremely stylish and innovative.
And anyone who thinks otherwise should go and check the SONY product line up. Each product category they are present in, they make revolutionary products.
Cameras - NEX series, Translucent mirror Alpha SLT series etc
Laptops - Vaio Z series - the most powerful ultra portable in the world, power of a desktop replacement in a chassis that weighs as much as an average notebook.
And the list goes on.....
And you would agree that basics aside, the things we love phones for all come from Sony.
Walkman and cybershot are Sony brand names, and Sony tech went into all the walkman and cybershot phones.
Style and design - another Sony trait.
And the Japanese phones are live examples of what SONY alone can do, those phones for Japan have mostly been SONY projects and just look at how awesome those phones are.
BRAVIA OLED screens, 12 - 16mp CMOS/EXMOR cameras, though they don't run Android they have 1 ghz snapdragon processor.
Whether anyone likes it or not, the success and popularity/ fan following that achieved was/is due to SONY brands/technologies and not Ericsson networking/management.
[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2011-02-08 15:37 ]
Posted by Dups!
On 2011-02-08 16:25:44, avmaxfan wrote:
On 2011-02-08 14:28:58, SKIBBE wrote:
i remeber then Sony produced phones without Ericsson, pure crap!
That's your opinion. And just like you, there are others who think SONY made great phones. Especially the CMD Z5.
And if SONY went solo today, there is no doubt they would come out with phones that are extremely stylish and innovative.
And anyone who thinks otherwise should go and check the SONY product line up. Each product category they are present in, they make revolutionary products.
Cameras - NEX series, Translucent mirror Alpha SLT series etc
Laptops - Vaio Z series - the most powerful ultra portable in the world, power of a desktop replacement in a chassis that weighs as much as an average notebook.
And the list goes on.....
And you would agree that basics aside, the things we love
phones for all come from Sony.
Walkman and cybershot are Sony brand names, and Sony tech went into all the walkman and cybershot phones.
Style and design - another Sony trait.
And the Japanese
phones are live examples of what SONY alone can do, those phones for Japan have mostly been SONY projects and just look at how awesome those phones are.
BRAVIA OLED screens, 12 - 16mp CMOS/EXMOR cameras, though they don't run Android they have 1 ghz snapdragon processor.
Whether anyone likes it or not, the success and popularity/ fan following that
achieved was/is due to SONY brands/technologies and not Ericsson networking/management.
[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2011-02-08 15:37 ]
This is going to turn into that infamous and futile exercise of Sony vs Ericsson. I suggest some of the Sony fans learn more about Ericsson before writing silly things. Sony do make stylish products no doubt but innovative and technologically advanced phones were definitely Ericsson. This 'if Sony goes it alone it could be better than Ericsson' is pure crap!! No one knows what would happen and if some of you bothered to find out about Ericsson you would have a different opinion.
Just because Sony has these many brands and sub-brands doesn't mean they will be able to pull it off should they go it alone. For an example, Sony hi-fis are struggling next to the likes of Denon, Yamaha and Pioneer. Their cameras aren't as good as the Nikons and Canons. I can go on and on, Sony is not as powerful as before.
Posted by motvikt
On 2011-02-08 16:25:44, avmaxfan wrote:
On 2011-02-08 14:28:58, SKIBBE wrote:
i remeber then Sony produced phones without Ericsson, pure crap!
That's your opinion. And just like you, there are others who think SONY made great phones. Especially the CMD Z5.
And if SONY went solo today, there is no doubt they would come out with phones that are extremely stylish and innovative.
And anyone who thinks otherwise should go and check the SONY product line up. Each product category they are present in, they make revolutionary products.
Cameras - NEX series, Translucent mirror Alpha SLT series etc
Laptops - Vaio Z series - the most powerful ultra portable in the world, power of a desktop replacement in a chassis that weighs as much as an average notebook.
And the list goes on.....
And you would agree that basics aside, the things we love
phones for all come from Sony.
Walkman and cybershot are Sony brand names, and Sony tech went into all the walkman and cybershot phones.
Style and design - another Sony trait.
And the Japanese
phones are live examples of what SONY alone can do, those phones for Japan have mostly been SONY projects and just look at how awesome those phones are.
BRAVIA OLED screens, 12 - 16mp CMOS/EXMOR cameras, though they don't run Android they have 1 ghz snapdragon processor.
Whether anyone likes it or not, the success and popularity/ fan following that
achieved was/is due to SONY brands/technologies and not Ericsson networking/management.
[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2011-02-08 15:37 ]
You are wrong. What I hate about sony is their fu*king policy about not competing with their own products and their fu*king love for their own formats (and the hate towards open software). Examples: They could have owned the mediacenter market with playstation 3 (and crushed popcorn hour 2years before it was even released) if they had given it some PROPER codec support. But no, "It can compete with vaio bla bla bla". They cant give their vaios better graphic cards (cuz then it competes with ps3) so they loose to asus and other brands. They actually released an Eseries laptop here in sweden with a good graphic card (and it sold like crazy) but then in the next version it was downgraded (??? retarded). Then their tvs, in 2009 Samsung has mediacenter (with support for all codecs you can think of) which is awesome and for a lower price. They sell like crazy with the whole LED marketing. Sony doenst want to compete with their bluray and dvd players so they skip all that. In 2010 they have a mediacenter but just a crippled one compared to LG and Samsung and they have to cut prices so now they are even lower than samsung. They could never compete with apple in the mp3 business in 2005 or something because the insisted on using their own format
So DRM, their own ports on mobile phones, memory stick, no xvid etc etc I blame sony!! I can easily skip walkman and cybershot (not even present anymore anyway) to get rid of sonys strange business style
AND look at psp2 they HAVE the technology (oled, etc) but they wont share it with SE anyway
[ This Message was edited by: motvikt on 2011-02-08 16:07 ]
Posted by Ricke77
Totally agree with you "motvikt". But for now lets keep to the topic. Dualcore fanboys and SE-haters keep out! Let us discuss ARC in this thread...
Posted by SKIBBE
Good reply's on my short and most personal option... anyway's i think the Co-op SE is what made Sony and Ericsson stay in the mobile industry. On their own they would not have come this far (my opinion, again) and we are talking about the europen market/usa. The asian market is bloated with noname(to us)/copies phones and other weird stuff
on topic > How do i convince myself bying the arc when i already have an x10i 16gb 2.2 custom froyo rom? (money is a real issue here)
sell and get atleast some cash for the x10i making the buy somewhat cheaper?
sell my body over the internet?
rob some old lady walking away from the ATM?
Posted by Bonovox
[ This Message was edited by: Bonovox on 2011-03-29 22:00 ]
Posted by Haribolman
Whoops! Yet another video showing the Arc being awkwardly held by the tips of the fingers. This will not be a comfortable, natural phone to hold. Probably end up hearing about lots of them being accidently dropped!
Posted by Bonovox
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Before Sony Ericsson I always prefered Ericsson for phones. Sony are a great company but their old phones I hated them. I owned 3
Posted by MyP910
I'm a sony fanboy, so maybe my comments will be biased (almost everything in my house has `SONY' label on it). I think, they are innovative. Look at their new translucent DSLR (eventhough canon used that technology in the 70s) but Sony re-innovate the translucent mirror technology and look what they've done with their A55 and A33. The best DLSR I've ever used (close to pro performances with mid-range price tag).
back to topic,
I think the stylish design of SE phones come from SONY. Look at X10 and xperia Arc, they manage to produce a design that is not same with other brands...
For xperia Arc, is there any preview with latest build ? I mean other than the prototype. I just want to know how far they have improved the phone.
Posted by >500
On 2011-02-08 21:19:59, Bonovox wrote:
On 2011-02-08 08:59:23, goldenface wrote:
2011, I think, will see SE back to its best.
Where have I heard that before?? Why is it everyone says this
will be back at their best this year but it NEVER happens!! For heavens sake they are trailing behind Motorola
When people mention ‘back to their best’, I don’t think they are referring to number of sales, rather the quality of the handset. And it seems your directing it at sales bono?? (that’s how I am interpreting it anyway lol)
Obviously I cant speak on behalf of everyone, but in goldenface’ case, I think he is referring to the quality of the phones SE will release this year!
edit: @Haribolman, im sure have done enough in house testing to ensure the shape of the phone wont be any issue. Ive seen you mention it a couple times now, why not just wait until you hold one and judge for yourself, not from a video. And im fairly sure I have read comments online which praise the ergonomics
[ This Message was edited by: >500 on 2011-02-09 07:14 ]
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