Xperia arc discussion Thread

Posted by KU

On 2011-01-14 04:21:05, HYPER-X10 wrote:
Look here to see other devices using Adreno 205 GPU:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(System_on_Chip)

Thanks for the link not so many have this chip, just SE and HTC very interesting !!!

Posted by Bonovox

[ This Message was edited by: Bonovox on 2011-03-29 21:40 ]

Posted by Toney_Ericsson
Really don't know why its pointing to the green on the arc being good when its better on the iphone 4 same as pretty much everything else.

I also have an RGB screen showing true colour gamut, also an NX Bravia witawoo

Posted by Bonovox
the iphone 4 screen still does beat anything I ever seen in terms of picture quality & sharpness. And as I see it it's alot more natural in colour compared to the over saturated S-AMOLED. I do though wish

would get rid of the constant blue background

Posted by 10123

On 2011-01-14 11:54:20, Arne Anka wrote:
I'm sure we will see it by the end of March here in Scandinavia. But as with many other phones it will most certainly not be released simultaneously in all countries, so it is a possible e.g. UK will get it later.

[ This Message was edited by: Arne Anka on 2011-01-14 10:55 ]

I would of thought UK is one of the first for release as the UK is probably the most important market for their high end phones.

Having said that we never saw the c901, and a May 31st worldwide release date seems a typical SE thing to do.

Posted by Xajel

On 2011-01-14 11:24:39, dibdin wrote:
I see Carphone are showing this phone as coming out in June...does that seem likely, or should we see it available around March/April time??

EDIT:

I have a HTC Desire with the AMOLED screen and over time it has suffered from screen burn. Would this be the same case with the Arc's display??

[ This Message was edited by: dibdin on 2011-01-14 10:47 ]

Carphone ? they also expect X8 to be available in Feb.. so just guess

about the screen burns.. it's a drawback in AMOLED displays ( including OLED and S-AMOLED ).. LCD does not have this drawback including the S-LCD used in Xperia Arc...

EDIT:
Carphone now adjusted the Arc expectation to April

[ This Message was edited by: Xajel on 2011-01-14 20:08 ]

Posted by Bonovox
I have never experienced screen burn on any mobile screen except the LG Arena

Posted by Miss UK
is Gingerbread just a new renamed version of the 2.4 android system?
if so then wont it be available to all other phones anyway?

like with Apple when they moved to iOS4 etc?
btw looks a nice phone looks alot like the first X10 so its not really much
of a difference just a improvement I think

with a few added bits on top

Posted by avmaxfan
Carphone doesn't expect X8 to be available in Feb 2011, but a BLACK X8

Posted by smclion102
We should not forget that "bravia engine" is 1st generation display.where as s-amoled is 2nd generation. So you guys should stop complaining abt "bravia engine"not being the best display

Posted by avmaxfan

On 2011-01-15 06:33:50, smclion102 wrote:
We should not forget that "bravia engine" is 1st generation display.where as s-amoled is 2nd generation. So you guys should stop complaining abt "bravia engine"not being the best display

Bravia engine and amoled don't compare simply because Amoled is a type of display and "Bravia Engine" is not. Its still TFT LCD. TN type at that and not IPS like Iphone4 or Droid X or LG Nova

So all by itself the Arc display is an achievement. And pretty competitive to other leading displays.

[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2011-01-15 06:33 ]

Posted by synn
Are you people seriously discussing DISPLAYS based on what you have READ without any REAL WORLD, FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE?

I'm currently selling a revolutionary, mail order swimming tutorial. Interested?

Posted by avmaxfan

On 2011-01-15 07:38:36, synn wrote:
Are you people seriously discussing DISPLAYS based on what you have READ without any REAL WORLD, FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE?

I'm currently selling a revolutionary, mail order swimming tutorial. Interested?

MOST if not all people will have the same opinion about the Arc screen as what most previews and people on this forum are suggesting.
And those previews are mostly very positive. So what are you trying to say

That Arc screen is the best screen on a mobile display ?

Posted by SKIBBE

On 2011-01-15 08:10:59, avmaxfan wrote:

That Arc screen is the best screen on a mobile display ?

He´s merely seeing the stupidity in comparing something we have never "seen" with our own eyes.

[ This Message was edited by: SKIBBE on 2011-01-15 08:12 ]

Posted by masseur
I'm wanting a new android phone and this one may well be the one that finally brings me back to

after some years of dissapointment (X1 was my last so its been that long!).

Posted by HYPER-X10
Personally, I was discussing DISPLAYS based on a picture comparing it against the iphone4 and Amoled. (in which iphone and Arc are very similar, but Amoled has noticeably worse clarity. For example the strawberry looks like a tomato

)

It's hardly a secret that (PenTile) Amoled performs badly when it comes to fine detail.

As for the "Bravia Engine" well, obviously

are just trying to leverage some Sony branding (as they should). Hopefully Sony had at least some input. Even if it was just setting some minimum performance requirements

would have to meet in order to label it with "Bravia".

[ This Message was edited by: HYPER-X10 on 2011-01-15 10:23 ]

Posted by doministry

On 2011-01-15 11:18:50, masseur wrote:
I'm wanting a new android phone and this one may well be the one that finally brings me back to

after some years of dissapointment (X1 was my last so its been that long!).

Yo man, and I followed similar route as now I use my first smartphone not made by

for years.
I was waiting for their WP7 device......
When I analyze Arc videos I still see the places where the UI is choppy...

Posted by rikken
Check the browser performance of the LG Optimus 2x

[ This Message was edited by: rikken on 2011-01-15 17:27 ]

Posted by Bonovox
When I had the original LG Optimus the more basic one that was very fast

[ This Message was edited by: Bonovox on 2011-01-15 17:45 ]

Posted by Toney_Ericsson

Good one! All these mugs see is Bravia Bravia and think it must be good. The X10 looked like a good phone remember that one

Posted by rikken
Yeah, everybody was all exited about it

I believe the Arc is a great phone but I am afraid it will lose to the flagships of Samsung and LG

Besides I have lost confidence in SE and their lack of updates and support

Posted by Bonovox
HTC & Nokia seem to give very good updates frequently & good support. Shame still I do love

but I wanna see a new Cyber-shot or Walkman phone in the style of w995 or Aino

Posted by doministry

On 2011-01-15 19:20:17, rikken wrote:
Yeah, everybody was all exited about it

I believe the Arc is a great phone but I am afraid it will lose to the flagships of Samsung and LG

Besides I have lost confidence in SE and their lack of updates and support

Without a doubt Samsung and LG have their spotlight on now.
They invest HEAVILY in R&D, and propose multiple solutions, they offer many different smartphones.
And this is also important, you just can't fight the market with one highend model.

Posted by 10123

On 2011-01-15 19:50:59, doministry wrote:

On 2011-01-15 19:20:17, rikken wrote:
Yeah, everybody was all exited about it

I believe the Arc is a great phone but I am afraid it will lose to the flagships of Samsung and LG

Besides I have lost confidence in SE and their lack of updates and support

I think SE has stole the show, as they do every year. The design alone has managed to win the hearts of many.

Doesn't mean they deliver though, in all cases so far they have yet to deliver. Idou and X1 managed to create a right buzz but managed to fail, I suppose the X1 wasn't as bad but the length of release was unacceptable.

If SE release a Playstation phone they will have the spotlight for 6 months. No dual core snapdra..blah blah can save Samung and LG, I mean after-all, does the average phone buyer even know what snapdragon is? And even those interested in Tech aren't that bothered whether it's dual core or not.

Posted by Bonovox
Whatever model comes out now I now remain not over excited cos then I won't be so let down if it turns out to be another lemon

Just best to wait rather than jump when it comes to

& not get bitten

Posted by 10123

On 2011-01-15 20:53:06, Bonovox wrote:
Whatever model comes out now I now remain not over excited cos then I won't be so let down if it turns out to be another lemon

Just best to wait rather than jump when it comes to & not get bitten

Agree, I got bitten once by SE and refused to go through the same process again. I now wait months till a stable firmware is released for any SE phones, then I purchase the handset and save money too.

I'm sure you will buy another SE, the X2 sounds pretty terrible, but anyone who knows SE should have known they always fail to deliver.

Posted by Bonovox

[ This Message was edited by: Bonovox on 2011-01-16 19:42 ]

Posted by ron.jeremy

What are you doing, show some respect synn...
This guy is a true insider, so for sure, he does have compared the Arc to the Iphone 5, and the works.
Who are we to judge.
I'll have 3 of those tutorial's please,those sound great - thanks buddy!
:eyes

Posted by doministry

On 2011-01-15 20:48:02, 10123 wrote:

On 2011-01-15 19:50:59, doministry wrote:

On 2011-01-15 19:20:17, rikken wrote:
Yeah, everybody was all exited about it

I believe the Arc is a great phone but I am afraid it will lose to the flagships of Samsung and LG

Besides I have lost confidence in SE and their lack of updates and support

Well you're wrong. The fact is HTC HD2 was successfull partially because of that.
Of course it doesn't sell the device alone, but I'm saying

will be rather more niche than any trendsetter.

Posted by >500

On 2011-01-15 15:54:32, doministry wrote:
When I analyze Arc videos I still see the places where the UI is choppy...

Ive seen quite a few comments like this. It's as if some people forget we are looking at pre release firmware.

Posted by doministry

On 2011-01-15 23:33:43, >500 wrote:

On 2011-01-15 15:54:32, doministry wrote:
When I analyze Arc videos I still see the places where the UI is choppy...

Ive seen quite a few comments like this. It's as if some people forget we are looking at pre release firmware.

True. But in every case it meant - it will be this way.

Posted by Residentevil
No doubt that is a sexy phone.

Posted by Bonovox
Whatever turns you on

Posted by hihihans

might face a lawsuit by microsoft

They also have a Arc. http://su.pr/16qdzL
(thanks to Nanu for the link)

[ This Message was edited by: hihihans on 2011-01-16 00:09 ]

Posted by Bonovox
Oh come on seriously it's a name of a mouse

Microsoft whatever next?? They gonna sue Noah's Arc??

[ This Message was edited by: Bonovox on 2011-01-16 00:14 ]

Posted by Toney_Ericsson
SE's promises are as old as the Arc

Posted by HYPER-X10
@ Toney_Ericsson:

You seem to be devoting a good portion of your life to slagging on

I hope it's not just the purchase of an underwhelming phone that has lead to all this hatred.

My previous 2 phones were HTC, and they weren't THAT special.

The fact that you're so happy with the DHD actually gives me some hope for the Arc. They share a lot in common.

I doubt the Arc will ever be able to be OC'd to 1.5Ghz though.....

Posted by rog

On 2011-01-16 00:19:07, doministry wrote:

On 2011-01-15 23:33:43, >500 wrote:

On 2011-01-15 15:54:32, doministry wrote:
When I analyze Arc videos I still see the places where the UI is choppy...

Ive seen quite a few comments like this. It's as if some people forget we are looking at pre release firmware.

True. But in every case it meant - it will be this way.

Compared to other pre-release versions of SE phones (and I guess I can say: I have seen and used quite a lot of them

), the arc pre-release firmware is VERY mature already, considering the time that's still left until release.

[ This Message was edited by: rog on 2011-01-16 09:54 ]

Posted by Alihosny
interesting video comparing bravia to amoled, s-lcd, lcd(x10)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaEk6WkZgKc

Posted by doministry

On 2011-01-16 10:53:03, rog wrote:

On 2011-01-16 00:19:07, doministry wrote:

On 2011-01-15 23:33:43, >500 wrote:

On 2011-01-15 15:54:32, doministry wrote:
When I analyze Arc videos I still see the places where the UI is choppy...

Ive seen quite a few comments like this. It's as if some people forget we are looking at pre release firmware.

True. But in every case it meant - it will be this way.

Compared to other pre-release versions of SE phones (and I guess I can say: I have seen and used quite a lot of them

), the arc pre-release firmware is VERY mature already, considering the time that's still left until release.

[ This Message was edited by: rog on 2011-01-16 09:54 ]

So it's like few months for it to be on the market.

Posted by Bonovox
That video looked interesting. The Arc showed vibrant colours but poor brightness & poor whites

Posted by Toney_Ericsson

On 2011-01-16 05:16:03, HYPER-X10 wrote:
@ Toney_Ericsson:

You seem to be devoting a good portion of your life to slagging on

I hope it's not just the purchase of an underwhelming phone that has lead to all this hatred.

SE hasn't delivered for years and you said it "hope". Thats all I ever see on here people that live in hope I find it hilarious how every time a phone is announced by se you all get excited just to be let down again and again. Do some people ever learn? It's hilarious to watch!

If you think HTC isn't that special then go with cheap shoddy plastic se with zero support that you have to wait 2 years for an update. I'll stick with HTC and already have everything you haven't got

Posted by synn

On 2011-01-16 14:19:11, Bonovox wrote:
That video looked interesting. The Arc showed vibrant colours but poor brightness & poor whites

That video is sadly flawed, especially when showing blacks and whites. They need to re-do it with manual exposure.
When doing such tests with auto exposure, the luminance values are not representative of what you may see with a naked eye.

Posted by Miss UK
LOOKS alrite tome

just watched a mobile burn review of it on Youtube

Posted by Alihosny

On 2011-01-16 16:07:46, synn wrote:

On 2011-01-16 14:19:11, Bonovox wrote:
That video looked interesting. The Arc showed vibrant colours but poor brightness & poor whites

at least it gives a glimpse of what to expect.
@miss uk link please..

[ This Message was edited by: Alihosny on 2011-01-17 01:44 ]

Posted by HYPER-X10

On 2011-01-16 15:49:33, Toney_Ericsson wrote:

I'll stick with HTC and already have everything you haven't got

Problem is that HTC don't have everything I want. I much prefer physical buttons over capacitive, including the camera button. I also prefer a 480 x 854 screen over 480 x 800 (I like the idea of 16:9 on the phone). There ARE good reasons to go for a DHD, mainly the MSM8255.

For me, the Arc has all the things I like in the X10, + all the things I like in the DHD, + a few extras.

I'm not overly concerned about when updates are released.

at least can't get any worse in that regard.
Having

's customisation essentially amount to skinning + some widgets is a good thing.

Posted by smclion102
"eldarmurtazin"
SE Arc 550 euro
in Europe
(650-750 euro in
Russia). SE halon
aka vivaz2 pro
420 euro. Good
device btw, have
some +. we will
publish preview

Posted by rikken
Mobileburn review Arc

Posted by avmaxfan

On 2011-01-17 09:40:34, rikken wrote:
Mobileburn review Arc

Its actually a "demo" by

staff at CES .

Posted by rog

On 2011-01-17 07:28:07, smclion102 wrote:
"eldarmurtazin"
SE Arc 550 euro
in Europe
(650-750 euro in
Russia). SE halon
aka vivaz2 pro
420 euro. Good
device btw, have
some +. we will
publish preview

Except that hallon is not vivaz 2 pro. But other than that, I agree