Posted by tranced
Not very exciting, but I like the 1:22 part.
Thanks for sharing
Posted by dibdin
Can anyone comment about how good this phone's display will be like in direct sunlight??
Posted by Arne Anka
What's there to comment since no one beside two in this forum have one. According to SE themself, its very good.
[ This Message was edited by: Arne Anka on 2011-01-12 22:56 ]
Posted by c96sthl
On 2011-01-12 13:46:22, Mizzle wrote:
Arc won't get Mediascape
they've scrapped that.
but if you read those from that very famous critic...they are like " UH OH...why drop mediascape?"
maybe they (this critic) already clueless about what the market really need
Posted by Alihosny
about the screen ,the bottom line of gsmarena preview is that it is very comparable to the best out there(retina,samoled) and that's enough for me,i doesn't have to be the best screen ever as long as it's one of the best on a high end phone.and if you consider that the screen used only 6% in the android battery information then this is a very good screen.
no body previewed it in direct sunlight yet but i am sure it will be excellent as the x10's display was superb in direct sunlight so why expect less from it's successor.
two long previews in greek:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzbQ5LiVNxQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5FEL3iSHhc&feature=watch_response
gaming in the second video is very good
and few more pictures
http://techblog.gr/techtv/sony-ericsson-xperia-arc-hnads-on-1783/
spider man trailer in the second video is amazing on the screen,good black levels.
flash 10.1 test at 7:13 2nd video is very good.
[ This Message was edited by: Alihosny on 2011-01-13 02:21 ]
Posted by Hardened
Right now I'm HATING the Galaxy S - Swype BLOWS on this. Apple was NOT kidding about their touchscreen tech being 5yrs ahead of the competition - it REALLY is!!
Now ... I don't want to be limited to the SAME sounds for email/sms/mms on iPhone. The time is NOW for Sony Ericsson to offer a local FULL Mac OS X client for Sync with Apple's core PIM applications - heck even allow for GTD Things! sync.
Many Mac OS X users don't necessarily want that walled garden. I'll get the IP4 32 GB unless Arc & SE can offer me a better alternative. I thought I wanted the Android pure ... but it pales ... and I'm beginning to like SE's improvements and end user ease.
Posted by jplacson
@Prom1, android phones offer much better sync capabilities than iSync. Apple is the one making the walled garden, not everyone else. To get around it, you have to make the effort since apple won't.
My X10 Mini Pro even syncs w/ iTunes wirelessly, no iPhone/iPod can do that.
Apple does have the best screens... Sorry, but amoled looks blurry compared to retina display. On that note, next to retina, all other apple displays look blurry too.
I was hoping
would have a similar hires screen on the newer xperias. But what they have will do just fine if power consumption is a lot lower.
Posted by rss_ndrsn
Xperia Arc is poised to be one of the best phone SE has ever done in the last three years. But some features are left out that would have made it a more current and able to compete with the latest phones: the HSPA+ support and Front cam. Plus, Arc has again become, one of the many SE phones, a victim of design inconsistency, the cheap looking back cover.
I think it would have been better if SE named the "Arc" Xperia Arc 4G. Of course, SE has to add HSPA+ support to be able to call it "4G" device. Most of the high end Android phone in the U.S. support HSPA+ and Xperia Arc fell a little shorter without it. Have SE even considered the importance of having HSPA+ for the Arc, as it is the highest spec phone from them at the moment, especially for a phone that going to be sold in the US where major wireless network providers are starting to adapt the HSPA+? I know most of you would say it is not needed but by looking at the trend of mid- to high-end Android phones right now, HSPA+ is one of the must have features, especially for a 2011 device.
One more significant feature that Xperia Arc is missing, the front cam. I guess I can't really say that video calling on mobile phone is barely used nowadays. Ever since the introduction of Facetime last year, video calling has become popular. We can tell that by looking at the video calling software support on mobile phones like Skype, YM, etc. For the front cam feature to be left out, it is just a wrong selling point.
Lastly, I really like the design of Xperia Arc but the plastic material use for the back cover ruined the ensemble, a metallic one would have been better. Preferably, the same material used on W990i battery cover. By making a little cosmetic change, Xperia Arc would have looked a more exquisite device.
I am not overly criticizing Xperia Arc but SE has to consider the HSPA+ support and front cam being left out, and a design mishap. Despite of not having dual-core processor like the other phones announced at CES 2011, the Arc still has a balanced set of features. Along with the Reality Display and Exmor-R features, the inclusion of HSPA+, front cam and a new metallic cover, these would seal the success of Xperia Arc.
[ This Message was edited by: rss_ndrsn on 2011-01-13 09:30 ]
Posted by marcink
Arc is a very nice Mid+ class fashion device worth sth. like 450-475 Euro. definitely not more than 475€.
Posted by dibdin
Well for me at the moment its between the Arc and the lg optimus black as to my next smartphone.
Posted by KU
On 2011-01-13 10:28:44, rss_ndrsn wrote:
Xperia Arc is poised to be one of the best phone SE has ever done in the last three years. But some features are left out that would have made it a more current and able to compete with the latest phones: the HSPA+ support and Front cam. Plus, Arc has again become, one of the many SE phones, a victim of design inconsistency, the cheap looking back cover.
I think it would have been better if SE named the "Arc" Xperia Arc 4G. Of course, SE has to add HSPA+ support to be able to call it "4G" device. Most of the high end Android phone in the U.S. support HSPA+ and Xperia Arc fell a little shorter without it. Have SE even considered the importance of having HSPA+ for the Arc, as it is the highest spec phone from them at the moment, especially for a phone that going to be sold in the US where major wireless network providers are starting to adapt the HSPA+? I know most of you would say it is not needed but by looking at the trend of mid- to high-end Android phones right now, HSPA+ is one of the must have features, especially for a 2011 device.
One more significant feature that Xperia Arc is missing, the front cam. I guess I can't really say that video calling on mobile phone is barely used nowadays. Ever since the introduction of Facetime last year, video calling has become popular. We can tell that by looking at the video calling software support on mobile phones like Skype, YM, etc. For the front cam feature to be left out, it is just a wrong selling point.
Lastly, I really like the design of Xperia Arc but the plastic material use for the back cover ruined the ensemble, a metallic one would have been better. Preferably, the same material used on W990i battery cover. By making a little cosmetic change, Xperia Arc would have looked a more exquisite device.
I am not overly criticizing Xperia Arc but SE has to consider the HSPA+ support and front cam being left out, and a design mishap. Despite of not having dual-core processor like the other phones announced at CES 2011, the Arc still has a balanced set of features. Along with the Reality Display and Exmor-R features, the inclusion of HSPA+, front cam and a new metallic cover, these would seal the success of Xperia Arc.
[ This Message was edited by: rss_ndrsn on 2011-01-13 09:30 ]
I hope that xperia arc american version will get 4G to be competitive enough, and the lack of front facing camera is really bad. But hspa+ isn't that important as carriers locks the max speed to 5mbts in france it is only 2 to 4 mbts.
Mettalic finish is expensive and not very used.
Posted by >500
have to admit, im lovin the look! Although, the back at the very least, could have done with some brushed aluminium. Give it a more premium look/feel. For a piece of material that small, it really wouldnt cost that much more than plastic (especially since producing in mass quantities!) and it would only be very slightly heavier. Example, a w890 back cover, which is brushed aluminium, defo aint heavy!
Posted by c96sthl
On 2011-01-12 13:46:22, Mizzle wrote:
Arc won't get Mediascape
they've scrapped that.
I thought i read they just revamp it till its now like a widget tht run on Android...
of course it depends how you look into their explanation.
as long as it give them easier route for a major android upgrade. it should be good enough
Posted by S4k1s
On 2011-01-13 10:28:44, rss_ndrsn wrote:
Lastly, I really like the design of Xperia Arc but the plastic material use for the back cover ruined the ensemble, a metallic one would have been better.
[ This Message was edited by: rss_ndrsn on 2011-01-13 09:30 ]
I 1000% agree with you on this point. And if the problem is the matallic cover would hurt the antnna reception then at least use the same material used in the X10 Mini Pro back cover.
Posted by Mizzle
Mediascape has been removed in the sense that there's no longer a dedicated application combining the music, photo and video libraries. They've got their own music player in Arc, which looks a bit like a mixture between Mediascape on the X10 and the music player on the X10 mini / X10 mini pro / X8. The video player seems to be stock Android 2.3 and the photo / video gallery is also stock Android 2.3 (the 3D viewer) but I think they'll style it to match the UXP.
Posted by 10123
Errrr
http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/news/coming-soon
Posted by admad
Well they are expecting X8 to show on February 2011, so...
Posted by 10123
If the LG Optimus 2X can come out in March then the Arc can come out in March.
Hopefully the release date is updated.
Posted by rog
Couple of arc sample photos, shot in various (and in what we think every-day)-scenarios
http://www.se-first.com/Xperia-arc-sample-photos.html
[ This Message was edited by: rog on 2011-01-13 18:34 ]
Posted by Tigon
On 2011-01-13 19:34:15, rog wrote:
Couple of arc sample photos, shot in various (and in what we think every-day)-scenarios
http://www.se-first.com/Xperia-arc-sample-photos.html
[ This Message was edited by: rog on 2011-01-13 18:34 ]
Ikea is a good place to take pics
Posted by Ricke77
I think they look pretty ok! Its hard to say how good the nightshoot is because I dont know how dark it accually is! Its got a lot of noice. But the other I think looks bright and clear. Maybe a little bit redish!!
Posted by goldenface
CPW in the UK has the black colour exclusive so all the branded phones will be silver? I'd really love to see a white version. It'd look sweet.
Posted by xenia
On 2011-01-13 19:34:15, rog wrote:
Couple of arc sample photos, shot in various (and in what we think every-day)-scenarios
http://www.se-first.com/Xperia-arc-sample-photos.html
[ This Message was edited by: rog on 2011-01-13 18:34 ]
2000x1500 resized?
Posted by rikken
I expected much more saturated and sharper pictures. As said before, redish and too much noise. Not convincing at all
Posted by Bonovox
No I had the same with X10 camera a redish pinkish tint to photos
Posted by Bonovox
www.phonearena.com has a preview
Posted by back2you
1- Galaxy S Give the blue color a lot of real
2- Galaxy S Red strawberry more than real so we can not see the black granules
3- Galaxy S Color of the mountain is not true
4- Xperia Arc Included in the best colors
5- Galaxy S Green color too much and this gave a mixed picture
Im sorry i used Google Translator
رقم 1 = اللون الازرق الزايد اللي ماله داعي بشاشه galaxy s
رقم 2 = شوف الفراوله اللون الاحمر طاغي على لون الحبيبات السوداء الصغيره اما في xperia arc اللون طبيعي 100%
رقم 3 = لون الجبل غير واقعي في galaxy s
رقم 4 = تدرج الالوان لصالح xperia arc
رقم 5 = اعتبرها فضيحه شوف كيف اللون الاخضر لاعب بالصوره في الجالكسي اس اما في xperia arc اللون واقعي
[ This Message was edited by: back2you on 2011-01-13 20:21 ]
Posted by Bonovox
Not being funny but failed on what?? That explains absolutely nothing to me cos all them photos of them screens look exactly the same colours
Posted by marcink
and don't forget arc will not compete with SGS, but with phones like SGS2, Atrix, Optimus 2x, Opt. black, etc.
Posted by rog
On 2011-01-13 20:10:48, xenia wrote:
2000x1500 resized?
Oops, sorry, thx for the hint. Full res pics here: http://www.se-first.com/images/stories/anzu/arc_samples.zip
Posted by Bonovox
Having had a Galaxy S I can say there is nothing wrong with the screen colours. But doing this comparison in pictures you simply cannot tell. The x10 had a great display but not the best I ever seen but I am sure the Arc display is much better but most people with untrained eye like the average consumer will not tell the difference. No big deal
Posted by io_bg
On 2011-01-13 20:39:46, back2you wrote:
...
What I spotted first was the black-to-white gradient. Both the iPhone and (especially) Galaxy S have too much bluish tint in the middle unlike Arc. It shows grey instead.
Posted by goldenface
Quite a positive review from phonearena with not many negatives at all. They were especially positive about the loudspeaker quality which I was surprised about as it's normally hard to squeeze a good quality speaker into such a thin casing (w880?)
They described the design as 'breathtaking'.
Posted by KU
2011 seems like a restart for SE which is good for the MWC big fire. Hope SE won't screw this one up with delay as it will defenitively be expensive.
I
SE
Posted by Bonovox
On 2011-01-13 21:46:20, goldenface wrote:
Quite a positive review from phonearena with not many negatives at all. They were especially positive about the loudspeaker quality which I was surprised about as it's normally hard to squeeze a good quality speaker into such a thin casing (w880?)
They described the design as 'breathtaking'.
A good example of a loud speaker on a thin phone was the Nokia 6500c(old now) phone. It was thin but real loud
[ This Message was edited by: Bonovox on 2011-01-13 21:04 ]
Posted by HYPER-X10
On 2011-01-13 21:00:02, Bonovox wrote:
Not being funny but failed on what?? That explains absolutely nothing to me cos all them photos of them screens look exactly the same colours
It might be the screen you're using but for me the difference is definately noticeable. There is quite a bit more detail in both the arc and iphone screens compared to the samsung. Look for the detail not just the colours.
Posted by Bonovox
My pc screen is a Samsung Full HD LED screen 
Posted by HYPER-X10
My PC screen is also Samsung. 24" 1920 x 1200.
BUT, my laptop (18.4" VAIO AW) has RGB led backlight and Adobe colour. It's AWESOME!!!
"Perfect for Photo Enthusiasts
Thanks to its Adobe® RGB 3-chip LED-backlit LCD, the VAIO AW is able to push up colour reproduction to a whopping 137% of the NTSC (u’v’) colour gamut – delivering the most life-like colours ever seen. Giving colour purists everywhere a display they can use for perfect photo editing, this is quite simply the best – and only – notebook of its kind. "
My Vaio screen absolutely dominates my samsung monitor
(Please excuse my Sony fanboyism
. But seriously, I can really see a noticeable difference)
Posted by Bonovox
Yes you do see the difference on the HD screen. but back to topic looking at the videos so far the Bravia screen does not look much different from the older x10
Posted by Toney_Ericsson
I can hear it in the Craphone Warehouse now "This phone sir has the Bravia engine" "But the screen looks no different than that other phone".
Posted by S4k1s
If you look at that picture and you say all three screens perform the same then you should
1) seriously consider getting your eyes checked.
2) stop bitching about what display is the best.
Posted by Toney_Ericsson
Your doing exactly that lol
Posted by HYPER-X10
He's doing exactly what?
If you mean he's bitching about what display is best, I don't think so.
I think he's saying that if you can't tell the difference, you aren't in a position to be complaining about it.
[ This Message was edited by: HYPER-X10 on 2011-01-14 02:02 ]
Posted by KU
SE always make great screens even if it's aint the best, so please stop this!
No front facing camera is bad I assume that regarding the evolution of video chat on android, but the screen may not be the best and while everybody knows that samsung suck at sunlight legibility (my sister has a galaxy S inside x10 is no match but outside...), and apart from my old G900, all of my SE phones were great in this aspect. And amoled burn colors (too bright nokia's clear black display managed to improve it), the retina display really is amazing (like Iphone is). LG screen has many promises but time will tell.
I would like to remind you that apart from the great eldar every people that tested this phone had been impressed by it so is the so critizised adreno 205 chip that it is the only one to pack (I checked the qualcomm website
), but if you prefere samsung's screen (I hate samsung's custom and design seems like a copy to me ) that's fine.
Posted by HYPER-X10
Look here to see other devices using Adreno 205 GPU:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(System_on_Chip)
Posted by S4k1s
On 2011-01-14 03:00:14, HYPER-X10 wrote:
he's saying that if you can't tell the difference, you aren't in a position to be complaining about it.
This.
Posted by avmaxfan
WOaahhhh
Check this out.
Xperia Arc pre order going for 6000-7000 SEK (roughly 600-700 euros)
http://www.prisjakt.nu/produkt.php?p=804550
Posted by Ricke77
On 2011-01-14 05:27:15, avmaxfan wrote:
WOaahhhh
Check this out.
Xperia Arc pre order going for 6000-7000 SEK (roughly 600-700 euros)
http://www.prisjakt.nu/produkt.php?p=804550
Not to worry!
This is because they don't really know...
Same thing with Satio, X10 etc. before they were released.
The pricetag will drop.
[ This Message was edited by: Ricke77 on 2011-01-14 07:08 ]
Posted by dibdin
I see Carphone are showing this phone as coming out in June...does that seem likely, or should we see it available around March/April time??
EDIT:
I have a HTC Desire with the AMOLED screen and over time it has suffered from screen burn. Would this be the same case with the Arc's display??
[ This Message was edited by: dibdin on 2011-01-14 10:47 ]
Posted by Arne Anka
I'm sure we will see it by the end of March here in Scandinavia. But as with many other phones it will most certainly not be released simultaneously in all countries, so it is a possible e.g. UK will get it later.
[ This Message was edited by: Arne Anka on 2011-01-14 10:55 ]