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Posted by c96sthl
http://www.mobile-review.com/articles/2011/ces2011-1-en.shtml

can help to when i read all the remark here... they are saying this is a solution good for short term.
I really hope I got the time to dig up what they wrote about T610 and K700.... during those years since those
phone also not using the greatest electronics of their times.

oh well anyway review/ critics can be wrong when the product officially out in market.


Posted by Supa_Fly

On 2011-01-10 15:09:32, SKIBBE wrote:
Adreno 205, 220 had been nice for gaming. 2x the speed as the 205 offers. looks nice thou!



For Qualcomm chips - the 220 is ONLY for their Dual-Core lineup thus far according to wikipedia - who's source is Qualcomm.

BTW, several pages back I DID state the cpu as being MSM8255 without ANY inside help, tips, or anything else. Just pure research.

So the HTC Inspire 4G ALSO uses this same cpu/imbedded gpu solution as well for their AT&T launch. Yup looks like Qualcomm screwed up big time on release of their dual-core cpu solution. But we'll see 2nd half of 2011 with better than originally developed dual-core solution from them; but I'm sure a few engineers in house are being flogged double-time to come up with something better than Tegra2.

Posted by SKIBBE

On 2011-01-11 01:54:29, c96sthl wrote:
http://www.mobile-review.com/articles/2011/ces2011-1-en.shtml

can help to when i read all the remark here... they are saying this is a solution good for short term.
I really hope I got the time to dig up what they wrote about T610 and K700.... during those years since those
phone also not using the greatest electronics of their times.

oh well anyway review/ critics can be wrong when the product officially out in market.


i was not in to any forums back then but i owned both of them and t610 rock my socks! and the k700 ohh the k700 it hade 30MB internal memory and could play mp3 ringtones om that was the shit i tell you, noone of my friends had that back then. i ownd them so to speach (drawback was that i had a com-port cabel, thus trasfering a 3.5MB mp3 took like 60 minutes and like to have transfer errors, but when it worked !! )

Posted by c96sthl

On 2011-01-11 08:46:54, SKIBBE wrote:

On 2011-01-11 01:54:29, c96sthl wrote:
http://www.mobile-review.com/articles/2011/ces2011-1-en.shtml

can help to when i read all the remark here... they are saying this is a solution good for short term.
I really hope I got the time to dig up what they wrote about T610 and K700.... during those years since those
phone also not using the greatest electronics of their times.

oh well anyway review/ critics can be wrong when the product officially out in market.


i was not in to any forums back then but i owned both of them and t610 rock my socks! and the k700 ohh the k700 it hade 30MB internal memory and could play mp3 ringtones om that was the shit i tell you, noone of my friends had that back then. i ownd them so to speach (drawback was that i had a com-port cabel, thus trasfering a 3.5MB mp3 took like 60 minutes and like to have transfer errors, but when it worked !! )



you forgotten during T610 out... nokia offering 7250 with stereo radio then 6225 with edge vs T630

when K700 out...nokia offer bigger screen....1megapixel camera and expandable memory on 7610 (plus its a smartphone)

but still SE beat them out.... its all about proper marketing just like how apple do best. Remember the day
when all the competition between SE and Nokia is always SE non smartphone product vs Nokia smartphone.

of course I can't say all Nokia spec at those time are far superior to SE but point is...not necessary you need the latest and greatest to be at top.

maybe time change

Posted by wario
really like the redesigned camera UI. much cleaner and doesn't have any of the blue the x10 camera UI had.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4MHk82KdF0
^around 4:22 the camera UI gets a quick demo

Posted by SKIBBE
@c96sthl i guess it was the price/design that made a great deal too, i have "hated" nokia since the 3110 5110 5210 and such phones.. i mean every little kid had that phone.. just in different housing/shells it was so "un-unique" so i had to buy a SE (it was swedish and noone else had one, been using my t20 (crappy) but when i got the t68, first mobile with color screen i was hooked ) there was no other alternativ than the k700 smartphones back than was more than i needed in functions and in price.

Posted by c96sthl

On 2011-01-11 09:52:04, SKIBBE wrote:
@c96sthl i guess it was the price/design that made a great deal too, i have "hated" nokia since the 3110 5110 5210 and such phones.. i mean every little kid had that phone.. just in different housing/shells it was so "un-unique" so i had to buy a SE (it was swedish and noone else had one, been using my t20 (crappy) but when i got the t68, first mobile with color screen i was hooked ) there was no other alternativ than the k700 smartphones back than was more than i needed in functions and in price.



yup... the taste of those phone is so cool in 2003/04
just like how Apple's iPHONE now...

but hope SE find back their Midas touch on style and good marketing strategy again

Posted by SKIBBE
Yeah they need more of a girl strategy, if not the design, then offer some more colors. let the user "feel" uniqe make a phone that third party factorys can make stuff for, make the market bigger, like housings/docking stations, iphone keeps there phones alive because you have bought so many things for them, and the the stuff will work with the successor iphone4. i would love to have some neat stuff for my phone, but SE choses to but the USB charger on top (not easy to design a dock sation for that, nor a good car-holder... sell batteryhatches in different colors? i would love to have one in aliminium with the same bronze colors as the sides for example

Posted by tranced
Some things cleared up at the Product Blog:
[ This Message was edited by: tranced on 2011-01-11 14:05 ]


Posted by Tsepz_GP
Despite what SE has done to us X10 users i realy want the Arc, wish i could upgrade this year, those specs look realy good and what a gorgeous design.
[ This Message was edited by: Tsepz_GP on 2011-01-11 13:56 ]


Posted by avmaxfan
GSMArena Arc Preview Up

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_arc-review-553.php

Posted by MyP910
This is why I hate SE. !!!

I thought to settle down with my X10. I thought X10 is the best looking smartphone and SE can't better it....damn, the xperia Arc is so damn beautiful. Even the UI is much much better.

why SE, why you make me want to upgrade to arc ?

anyway, congrats to SE that maintain their superior in design-wise. SE is the only company that don't do iphone copy-cat.

Posted by tranced
That's called marketing strategy

Posted by HxH
That's one main reason, I can't be hater even regretted purchase of satio (in overall aspects).
They really do not try to intercepted market with iPhone-copycat style.
They style of design-wise is very optimal and look promising (on what they concentrated to do).

Posted by mediar
I don't get that love to Arc... I think ( or at least in my opinion ) Arc is 10x uglier than X10, its very asymmetrical device compared to X10, and I don't see the point in being that thin ( since I bend one thin phone on my pocket ). Not to mention the ugly menu button on the home screen, the lack of Mediascape ( which I liked ) and so on... And why did they changed the icons over the hardware buttons? They even left the miscroUSB uncovered. I just don't like that device, that's why I'm not going to buy it. The lack of proper white version of the phone is another deal-breaker.
[ This Message was edited by: mediar on 2011-01-11 16:09 ]


Posted by io_bg

On 2011-01-11 17:03:36, mediar wrote:
I don't get that love to Arc... I think ( or at least in my opinion ) Arc is 10x uglier than X10, its very asymmetrical device compared to X10, and I don't see the point in being that thin ( since I bend one thin phone on my pocket ). Not to mention the ugly menu button on the home screen, the lack of Mediascape ( which I liked ) and so on... And why did they changed the icons over the hardware buttons? They even left the miscroUSB uncovered. I just don't like that device, that's why I'm not going to buy it. The lack of proper white version of the phone is another deal-breaker.
[ This Message was edited by: mediar on 2011-01-11 16:09 ]


Well, most people (including me) like the Arc more than X10. Plus, a Mediascape will be added in the final software. After all, no one is forcing you to buy it But I'll have to agree about the uncovered microUSB, it doesn't look very good.

Posted by Bonovox

[ This Message was edited by: Bonovox on 2011-03-29 21:36 ]


Posted by motvikt

On 2011-01-11 18:16:20, io_bg wrote:

On 2011-01-11 17:03:36, mediar wrote:
I don't get that love to Arc... I think ( or at least in my opinion ) Arc is 10x uglier than X10, its very asymmetrical device compared to X10, and I don't see the point in being that thin ( since I bend one thin phone on my pocket ). Not to mention the ugly menu button on the home screen, the lack of Mediascape ( which I liked ) and so on... And why did they changed the icons over the hardware buttons? They even left the miscroUSB uncovered. I just don't like that device, that's why I'm not going to buy it. The lack of proper white version of the phone is another deal-breaker.
[ This Message was edited by: mediar on 2011-01-11 16:09 ]


Well, most people (including me) like the Arc more than X10. Plus, a Mediascape will be added in the final software. After all, no one is forcing you to buy it But I'll have to agree about the uncovered microUSB, it doesn't look very good.


What? Where have you seen this?

Posted by SKIBBE
i thought it was a good thing mediascape was not there... crappy video/mp3 player... fance maybe but that's it

Posted by io_bg
On 2011-01-11 18:41:53, motvikt wrote:
What? Where have you seen this?

I've heard Mediascape will be added as an optional component of the phone when it gets released (so you won't have to use it if you prefer the original Android gallery). This way SE will make their updates faster than before.

Posted by Bonovox
I hated Mediascape

Posted by argiriano

On 2011-01-11 19:07:22, io_bg wrote:
On 2011-01-11 18:41:53, motvikt wrote:
What? Where have you seen this?

I've heard Mediascape will be added as an optional component of the phone when it gets released (so you won't have to use it if you prefer the original Android gallery). This way SE will make their updates faster than before.

I thought Timescape is optional, Mediascape will not be present at Arc, instead it`ll use Android base Gallery and just add widget for media. I like widgets for media more then Mediacsape actually and as a bonus we`ll get faster updates, so it`s a big plus for me.

Posted by Tsepz_GP
I like Mediascape, if the X10 natively supported DivX/Xvid & FLV i would have used Mediascape for videos to.

Posted by argiriano

On 2011-01-11 19:10:07, Bonovox wrote:
I hated Mediascape


I still hate it... all I want when I play music from my phone is to navigate fast trough songs and not sweeping trough tones of content like in Mediascape, but still it is just my personal preference.

Posted by Ricke77
Does anybody know what kind of videofiles the Arc supports?? Xvid? Avi? Mkv perhaps??

Posted by goldenface
Xperia arc White Paper.

It says the phone supports flash 10 but would I be right in saying that this hasn't been a implemented successfully in any phone yet?
[ This Message was edited by: goldenface on 2011-01-11 19:37 ]



Posted by admad

On 2011-01-11 20:25:33, goldenface wrote:
Xperia arc White Paper.

It says the phone supports flash 10 but would I be right in saying that this hasn't been a implemented successfully in any phone yet?
[ This Message was edited by: goldenface on 2011-01-11 19:37 ]



Hmm? Flash 10 is succesfully implemented in all high-end Android 2.2+ phones. Even X10 with custom 2.2 does flash job very well

Posted by rikken
Mediascape really is. . . . . .
I bought poweramp pro on the marked for 4.99 usd and it is lightyears ahead of MS in speed Sounds a lot better too due to its EQ.

Posted by goldenface
@admad

Ah,thanks for the info.

Posted by Tigon

On 2011-01-11 19:07:22, io_bg wrote:
On 2011-01-11 18:41:53, motvikt wrote:
What? Where have you seen this?

I've heard Mediascape will be added as an optional component of the phone when it gets released (so you won't have to use it if you prefer the original Android gallery). This way SE will make their updates faster than before.


You have heard wrong, media will comprise of widgets on the home screen that will take you to the default android media applications thats how their updates will be alot faster than before, as for the micro usb charging port that will also be covered on the final units.

Posted by goldenface

On 2011-01-11 21:36:56, Tigon wrote:
......as for the micro usb charging port that will also be covered on the final units.


That's good to know. It will make it look a lot neater.

Posted by roanmy
I'm fraid I might think it seems cheap because it doesn't weigh anything, but hope not! ^_^

Posted by Pjuklarven

On 2011-01-11 22:56:25, roanmy wrote:
I'm fraid I might think it seems cheap because it doesn't weigh anything, but hope not! ^_^

It really wouldn't hurt if they used som metal in their designs too

I have held a Htc legend and it really feels solid and nice just because it uses real solid materials and not just plastic.

Posted by Arne Anka

On 2011-01-11 22:56:25, roanmy wrote:
I'm fraid I might think it seems cheap because it doesn't weigh anything, but hope not! ^_^


Just attach a brick to it and it won't feel that cheap anymore.
[ This Message was edited by: Arne Anka on 2011-01-11 22:34 ]


Posted by Mizzle
Here are the full size images:
http://www.fileserve.com/file/DHgBtCZ

Again, please note that the image quality is subject to change.

Posted by avmaxfan

On 2011-01-12 00:12:34, Mizzle wrote:
Here are the full size images:
http://www.fileserve.com/file/DHgBtCZ

Again, please note that the image quality is subject to change.



Very Impressive
Arc will be the Android N8

Posted by admad
For a pre-release phone, these pics are amazing! The ones posted by GSMArena seemed much worse.

Posted by Bonovox
Probably find out they are not really from the Arc the photos

Posted by avmaxfan

On 2011-01-12 09:43:00, Bonovox wrote:
Probably find out they are not really from the Arc the photos



They are ARC photos. EXIF info clearly states LT15i

Posted by Xajel
Thanks Mizzle for the pics... downloading now


Bonovox, I think you saw the EXIF and saw LAT15i... just as what you might guessed from avmaxfan.. yes LT15i is an internal devepment codename for Anzu/Arc... so these are Arc's

Posted by Bonovox
Why has the Arc got that model number I thought it was in the X range

Posted by Xajel
As I said, it's just an internal developement codename...

naming is something marketing team do later... it's name might be choosed already and might not.. you now it's not released yet so they have sometime too...
[ This Message was edited by: Xajel on 2011-01-12 10:51 ]


Posted by KU
Thanks mizzle!!
The pics are far better than what does x10 allow to do, and if it will be improved that's going to be amazing.

Posted by xtacy
How does the Arc's camera compare with that on the Nokia N8?

Posted by tyko
I actually think that the images look similar to satio images, if it's similar post processing I don't know.

Posted by justus333
Cant wait until the release! First SE that makes me drool again And as it is, my IPhone starts to fall apart.
Good Job SE! Hope they learned one thing, it is not the newest components, it´s the smooth playing together of all components. I.e SW, HW, sync,user Experience. I can easily neglect the dual core, if it is running as smoothly as this one seems to be doing. I praying for a good cam though, as that is what Im missing the most on the IPhone!

Posted by avmaxfan

On 2011-01-12 12:35:50, tyko wrote:
I actually think that the images look similar to satio images, if it's similar post processing I don't know.


+1

Posted by Mizzle
Arc won't get Mediascape they've scrapped that.

Posted by tranced

On 2011-01-11 14:36:45, tranced wrote:
Some things cleared up at the Product Blog:
  • The CPU and GPU specs are: MSM8255 at 1 GHz with Adreno 205.
  • The music player does have an equalizer, my current software has 10 different genre based presets.
  • It does not have a front facing camera.
  • Mediascape is removed in its earlier form and has changed into a customizable widget based “media pane” (as shown briefly in the video)
  • It’s too early to officially give detailed comments around specific later Android versions for XperiaTM arc during its lifecycle but the changes we have made to our way of working with Android puts us in a good position to make sure that Xperia arc will get later versions in a timely manner.
  • I’ve seen articles around higher numbers than 2.3 being seen in the display of Xperia arc phones – As I have been informed that is due to a misconfiguration in some samples and nothing to get too excited about really, sorry.
  • It does have two microphones which will be used for noise suppression during phone calls.
  • The camera LED flash is possible to put in four different modes; Auto, Fill-flash, Red-eye Reduction & Off.
  • It does have full multi touch support, I just tried a similar multi touch test app as I did in the video on the X10 and at least in that app it accepts 4 simultaneous touch points without any issues with X- and Y-axis or such things. I will try to get confirmation on final specs in regards to multi touch.
  • It does support wi-fi up to the 802.11n mode.

[ This Message was edited by: tranced on 2011-01-11 14:05 ]



Posted by smclion102
Sony Ericsson Xperia™ arc active display New Promo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrlqgy_9fqQ


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