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Posted by doministry

Where did you get playstation pocket from?
[ This Message was edited by: SE-Naz on 2011-04-28 09:36 ]


From the Marketplace.


Posted by SE-Naz
Thanks doministry

Posted by aka Dus
I am liking my Arc a lot but a couple of things are irritating me:

- When opening the phonebook, it keeps asking me to import contacts. Ticking the "Don't ask again" button doesn't work.
- No matter how many times I synch, only a handful of my Facebook contacts pictures etc are synching with my phonebook. Some have synched up, so it's not as if there could be a settings problem, as far as I can tell.

Anyone discovered solutions to this yet?



Posted by aka Dus
Has anyone installed Spotify? Says Arc isn't supported, can I choose any of the other devices listed to install it on my Arc?


Posted by SKIBBE

On 2011-04-28 14:05:18, aka Dus wrote:
Has anyone installed Spotify? Says Arc isn't supported, can I choose any of the other devices listed to install it on my Arc?


I run Spotify on my Arc, no problems.

I have 2 contacts that are synced but no picture is showing really don't know why

try delete one contact and create it again? if it works you know what you have to do with the rest of them

Posted by aka Dus
Thanks Skibbe, not liking the sound of the manual job I might have to do to get the contacts right...

Did you just go find Spotify in the Android Market? Maybe I can't find it as I am in Ireland right now and Spotify isn't supported here.

Posted by SKIBBE
Yeah i just downloaded it from the market (sweden)

i know it's a hazzle but was just a thought (ruling out a problem)

Posted by doministry

On 2011-04-28 13:30:18, aka Dus wrote:

- When opening the phonebook, it keeps asking me to import contacts. Ticking the "Don't ask again" button doesn't work.


Well you don't use SIM card do you?
Or in flight mode?
In my case once SIM is in and the phone in normal mode this thing disappears.

Posted by aka Dus

On 2011-04-28 14:58:34, SKIBBE wrote:
Yeah i just downloaded it from the market (sweden)

i know it's a hazzle but was just a thought (ruling out a problem)



Nice one, I will download it when I get back to the UK next week.


On 2011-04-28 15:06:32, doministry wrote:

On 2011-04-28 13:30:18, aka Dus wrote:

- When opening the phonebook, it keeps asking me to import contacts. Ticking the "Don't ask again" button doesn't work.


Well you don't use SIM card do you?
Or in flight mode?
In my case once SIM is in and the phone in normal mode this thing disappears.



Actually, am waiting for a network unlock code to come through so I have been offline (just playing via Wifi) so far, so that might well be the issue. Thanks.
[ This Message was edited by: aka Dus on 2011-04-28 14:57 ]


Posted by aka Dus
Must also be said that it's Wifi connectivity is not perfect at all. Dropping quite often.


Posted by doministry

Actually, am waiting for a network unlock code to come through so I have been offline (just playing via Wifi) so far, so that might well be the issue. Thanks.
[ This Message was edited by: aka Dus on 2011-04-28 14:57 ]


Yes. Once you plug in SIM and connect to network this thing wil disappear.

Posted by doministry

On 2011-04-28 17:31:18, aka Dus wrote:
Must also be said that it's Wifi connectivity is not perfect at all. Dropping quite often.


Absolutely cannot confirm this. My WiFi works like a dream.

Posted by false_morel
I put my hands today on a blue Arc.. I was all excited for this phone, but today was a bit disappointed..

I was considering getting an Android to keep it as a second device to the N8, and thought the Arc should be it..
First of all, true the design is ahead of the competition within the Android world, but usually SE are capable of even more attractive designs.. I liked the X10 exterior more..

One thing stunned me is that Android still don't support Home Screen and UI view in landscape mode!! How could that be? And I thought they already were over this since Froyo!!
Haven't used an Android for a while now, but really, have I missed something or landscape mode is still not supported?!

The Display of the Arc is very good.. But I don't get it what the area above the screeen all about! It seems like as if it's a wasted area!!

The headet jack at the side is plain stupid! Lack of front-facing camera is another.. As well as positioning of the tiny camera module and the respective tiny shutter button!!

Anyway, the real let-down though is the camera! Of course I couldn't test it in a shop.. But really, it's barely an upgrade over the X10 in quality.. Already went through many samples online..
As to the night photography and the Exmor R sensor, it's just some publicity stunt..
I know the whole crowd of SE fans over here would claim otherwise, maybe even claim it's the best camera in the market, but truth said, it's barely the best Android camera out there..
It's no where near the peformance of SE's cybershots series (Satio included)..
And it's really pathetic for a company to take a step down in this area! Just to follow the flow of ultra-slim designs!

However, as SE reintroduced the Walkman series to the market under the Android umbrella, why wouldn't they do it with the Cybershots series with Xenon flashes as well..
Maybe then, I'd pick an SE android..

The positives are SE's custom UI is way better and smoother now.. Gingerbread out of the box and readiness to give the latest updates in faster rates is a plus.. Though unlocking the bootloader should be considered the big plus really!

Problem is there is nothing special at all about the Arc other than the unique deisgn.. Which IMO is inferior to that of the simpler X10's!! Other than that, the Arc lags in everything else against the major competition!
SE will be dropping the price of this flahship soon I guess!
I'd even pick a Nexus S over it really!

Posted by rickster2kuk
^ I'm not sure home screen in horizontal mode would be that useful and I've never had the need for it. Everything else works so I suppose it seems a bit bizarre not to include the home screen.

The area above the screen isn't really an issue. The black Arc I have you don't even notice it and the screen does look proportioned (actually it's one thing I really like about the Arc is the way the screen and the surround amalgamate whereas the X10 you could see the border around it).

Headphone jack yes is silly, as for front facing camera - do people really need them, old phones had front facing cameras and the "facetime" type technology never really took off.

I'd disagree with you on the camera big time. Yes, compared to the X10 it is not a massive leap but the sensor gives noticeably sharper images corner to corner (whereas on the X10 you would get obviously blur towards the edges), the colours have also been tweaked to make them more natural (albeit I would say maybe a little over saturated but not a big deal), the X10's colours were good but tended to look a little washed out under certain situation. Focusing and capture are also much quicker than the X10. In terms of against the competition I'd say still one of the best smartphone cameras, much better than iphone 4 and Nexus S. Compared to some of the older Cybershots, yes and no, compared to my old K850i, yes, but my benchmark was always the C905 and the Arc is still slightly under that - not my much thou. Camera placement, yes, isn't ideal but no issues for me, I thought I may get a few stray finger shots but not yet, and the camera button is not really an issue, it's still very useable even if a fraction smaller than the X10.

My understanding with Xenon is that, a) the modules are too large to fit in most smartphones (unless you create a massive bulk at the back, and b) they have a potential to seriously drain the battery. Most people don't need Xenon therefore LED will do.

I terms of design I do prefer the Arc over the X10. The X10's design was nice but does look a little dated now. The thing that impresses me with Arc is it feels featherlight and sits nicely in the hand (much better than I thought it would).

The thinks that draw me back to SE are the little attentions to detail; the dedicated camera shutter, the LED notification light (soooo handy).


Posted by Bonovox
LED notification light?? Oh,come on even Nokia has that a dedicated camera button I have seen them before.

Posted by rikken

On 2011-04-22 06:27:55, smclion102 wrote:
Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc crowned best mobile phone
HTC Desire finally loses the top spot



The Arc knocked of the throne after one week The SGS II is the new king (techradar.com)

Posted by rickster2kuk
Yes, SGSII is getting some very rave reviews. Shame it's so expensive.

Posted by Bonovox
A couple of shots taken by the Samsung Galaxy S II. From Mobile-Review website. Who needs Exmor for low light



Posted by fjcarlsson
I got a notification that there is new firmware available for the Arc. Anyone tried it?

Posted by smclion102
Camera showdown: Samsung Galaxy S II versus Xperia arc

Note: For all the picture samples below, the Xperia arc is on top and the Galaxy S II is on the bottom.










Click Here FOr More Images


Posted by doministry
The third Arc photo could be taken much sharper.

Posted by doministry
I went through comparative test on GSM Arena
Samsung SG2 - LG Optimus 2x - SE Arc.

It's clear all the cameras use slightly different algorithms.
In the result all the cameras have their better and worse spots.
LG tends to be very sharp but also adds alot of artifacts.
SE is "polishing" some parts which are less sharp but than on some is the best.
There are also fragments where Samsung leads.

No clear winner at all. Different approaches for all of them.

Posted by Shino03

On 2011-04-29 03:17:36, smclion102 wrote:
Camera showdown: Samsung Galaxy S II versus Xperia arc

Note: For all the picture samples below, the Xperia arc is on top and the Galaxy S II is on the bottom.


Even a 5 year old kid will be able to tell that the Arc's photos were taken by shaking hands. Nice Try Eldar

Posted by xenia

On 2011-04-28 22:59:38, rickster2kuk wrote:
Yes, SGSII is getting some very rave reviews. Shame it's so expensive.

How about battery/camera issue? I have this prob and i don`t know how can i fix it...

Posted by marcink
C'mon, show me a photo where arc is better than sgs2? Mabe 1 one will be, no more. I'll keep insisting that arc's cam is average at best.

Posted by marcink
actually no sane person will buy arc right now, when you can buy a phone with superior screen, processor, camera, memory, and loads of other features for a little more. Doministry, I'm so sorry for you.


Posted by Tsepz_GP
Android does support Landscape HS, LauncherPro and if im not mistaken ADW EX Launcher also does it, its all down to the manufacturer as to whether their launcher will do landscape or not.

If i were to get a new phone this year the Galaxy S II would be the one for me as much as i like SE, the dual-core CPU, 1GB RAM, HD1080p@30FPS video, dual-core games, 1650mah batt etc.. would be too much to resist especialy at the price.

Posted by HYPER-X10

On 2011-04-29 10:56:52, marcink wrote:
actually no sane person will buy arc right now, when you can buy a phone with superior screen, processor, camera, memory, and loads of other features for a little more. Doministry, I'm so sorry for you.


What a stupid thing to say. What if you don't like the SGS2? I don't. It's not like people didn't know it was coming when they bought an Arc. There are features the arc has that the SGS2 doesn't, (like appearance and physical buttons) that I put above any perceived advantage of the SGS2. If I had problems with lag, or wanted a front camera, I might reconsider.

For now, I'm comfortable knowing that when I want to upgrade will most likely have a phone with physical buttons, appearance that I like and dual core, etc. (I'm not particularly an fan, but they seem to me to be the only ones offering physical buttons these days)

Don't be so stupid as to think everyone buys a phone based on specs and/or your opinion. Some people just buy things because they like them.

Posted by doministry

On 2011-04-29 10:56:52, marcink wrote:
actually no sane person will buy arc right now, when you can buy a phone with superior screen, processor, camera, memory, and loads of other features for a little more. Doministry, I'm so sorry for you.

You are sorry for me for your bull..hit opinion?
Lol
I would not buy any Samsung because these devices are the least robust and reliable BTW.

Posted by doministry

On 2011-04-29 05:10:04, Shino03 wrote:

On 2011-04-29 03:17:36, smclion102 wrote:
Camera showdown: Samsung Galaxy S II versus Xperia arc

Note: For all the picture samples below, the Xperia arc is on top and the Galaxy S II is on the bottom.


Even a 5 year old kid will be able to tell that the Arc's photos were taken by shaking hands. Nice Try Eldar

This guy is a pathetic person.
And offensive too..

Of course these comparisons above are fake.

Take your time and go through GSMArena test, go through many places on the pictures
and see how the results vary between SGS II, Arc and Optimus 2x dependeing on the place.

Posted by Caspa

On 2011-04-29 14:56:04, HYPER-X10 wrote:

On 2011-04-29 10:56:52, marcink wrote:
actually no sane person will buy arc right now, when you can buy a phone with superior screen, processor, camera, memory, and loads of other features for a little more. Doministry, I'm so sorry for you.


What a stupid thing to say. What if you don't like the SGS2? I don't. It's not like people didn't know it was coming when they bought an Arc. There are features the arc has that the SGS2 doesn't, (like appearance and physical buttons) that I put above any perceived advantage of the SGS2. If I had problems with lag, or wanted a front camera, I might reconsider.

For now, I'm comfortable knowing that when I want to upgrade will most likely have a phone with physical buttons, appearance that I like and dual core, etc. (I'm not particularly an fan, but they seem to me to be the only ones offering physical buttons these days)

Don't be so stupid as to think everyone buys a phone based on specs and/or your opinion. Some people just buy things because they like them.


+1 - Nicely dealt with...

Posted by false_morel

On 2011-04-29 11:26:52, Tsepz_GP wrote:
Android does support Landscape HS, LauncherPro and if im not mistaken ADW EX Launcher also does it, its all down to the manufacturer as to whether their launcher will do landscape or not.


I know that Tsepz..

But those are third-party apps that not everyone would like the other functionality they bring along with landscape support..
Android not supporting landscape view for the overall UI is simply stupid! Same goes for the current version of WP..
Heck, with WP, even phones with Qwerty keyboards don't supprt any landscape orientation even when the slider is up!!
.........................

Anyway, back to the Arc.. The point is, with the Atrix, 2X, Sensation, and SGII, it's out of competition..
The Arc is competing with the likes of Nexus S and Incredilbe S!! And even against this bunch it has its shortcomings which constrain it!
However, the pricing is all logical if you'd ask me..

The above four high-ends are 550€+ while the Arc is at 460€..
There is like a 100€ difference.. So it all up to the customers' choice..
[ This Message was edited by: false_morel on 2011-04-29 19:08 ]


Posted by doministry

On 2011-04-29 20:07:13, false_morel wrote:

On 2011-04-29 11:26:52, Tsepz_GP wrote:
Android does support Landscape HS, LauncherPro and if im not mistaken ADW EX Launcher also does it, its all down to the manufacturer as to whether their launcher will do landscape or not.


I know that Tsepz..

But those are third-party apps that not everyone would like the other functionality they bring along with landscape support..
Android not supporting landscape view for the overall UI is simply stupid! Same goes for the current version of WP..
Heck, with WP, even phones with Qwerty keyboards don't supprt any landscape orientation even when the slider is up!!
.........................

Anyway, back to the Arc.. The point is, with the Atrix, 2X, Sensation, and SGII, it's out of competition..
The Arc is competing with the likes of Nexus S and Incredilbe S!! And even against this bunch it has its shortcomings which constrain it!
However, the pricing is all logical if you'd ask me..

The above four high-ends are 550€+ while the Arc is at 460€..
There is like a 100€ difference.. So it all up to the customers' choice..
[ This Message was edited by: false_morel on 2011-04-29 19:08 ]


Those differences are overestimated IMO. And this whole double core thing.
You won't even notice this really.

There are some differences like design and UI. In my taste Samsung looks like sh..t and it's iPhone ripoff.
Plus apparently Samsung and Motorola are not well known for a stable and robust working.
So it's not only a choice between hardware. Smartphone is more than highend specs race.
Current devices don't really use the whole power of the platform.

But we have a choice and it's not one manufacturer anymore and that's great.

Posted by dsr27
Well I had a woman from vodafone ring me today and say its goin to be at least 2 1/2 to 3wks before I get my arc suppose its not too long to wait

Posted by se_dude
@false_moral Its not about specs. techradar has rated the Arc way above the Atrix and the O2x and for good reason too. Have you tried the O2x? The O2x in its standard form is extremely laggy and hardly feels like a dual core phone.

Posted by false_morel
It's not about the specs only!

But first, most of smartphones buyers get them by two-years contracts.. Not everybody has the budget and even if the budget is there the interest to change phones every few months!!

That's the only reason the dual cores make some sense.. In two years time, or more, as some keep their phones even more, those dual cores will meet their uses..

Anyway, still, it's not about the specs..
What does the Arc offer anything special against the competition? Three categories: Design, UI, and camera.

As to the design it's a winner.. Those who're looking for a stylish high-end, not just a black plastic brick (Samsung) or an even uglier multi-panel grey alu brick (HTC), the Arc is there.. SE delivered a unique design. A point counted for them. But really now, for someone going for a 400€+ SMARTPHONE, should the looks be high in the priority list or just considered an extra factor?!

As to the UI, it differs minimally in comparison to the standard UI.. And IMO, if they didn't have to do much, better leave it standard! Timescape is now a widget (app).. The standard UI is still the best IMO btw! But as to the current standards, for some reason I don't manage to figure out, it's considered boring and everyone is looking for as much customization and silly tricks and features as possilbe! For those the Touchwiz and the HTC Sense are the best!
So, either leave it standard, or work it out and deliver something on par with the Sense..

And as to the camera, had SE delivered something special here, then we'd be talking.. It may still be the best camera on an Android high-end, but just barely.. The others aren't far behind.. That is, nothing special here or worth considering as an extra point!

Everything else considered, the Arc lags behind..

Maybe, in comparison to the O2X, it could win more votes and even sell better! But as to the Atrix, Sensation, and GII, it is inferior..

It's a tough competition really.. And now that SE turned into a smartphone manufacturer and ditched the feature phones department, they really need to do more. Specially that they're relying on one platform only.
Their line-up is the smallest among all competitors, and they lack any stamp in the Android world..
HTC have their Sense UI or instance.. Samsung have their displays, Touchwiz, best specs..

SE introduced the Play of course.. Which was unfairly judged by almost all reviewers!! But they also need to give it some exclusive material! Only one Playsation title?! Really?! Had the Play for instance been released with a whole bunch of PS titles, then it'd be viewed differently.. Also, if it had packed a better GPU! Why not Adreno 220 instead of 205 for instance.. Minor stuff that really count..

Posted by Caspa
Im looking forward to seeing both phones in the flesh, been looking at some videos of the Samsung and it looks like a sharp phone, not beautiful like the Arc but slim, smart and functional with that big bright screen being the focus point... Improvements to Touchwiz look decent too, like the way they have used the screen space...

The Android market is fantastic at the moment, lots of great handset to choice from... It's only gonna get better too...

Gonna hold out till the work line contracts are up in June and see what I can do, think its between the Arc and SG2 though... Need to try both out...

Posted by smclion102
Qualcomm touts Snapdragon and its HD video capabilities

While NVIDIA is getting a lot of good press for the powerhouse that is the Tegra 2 chip inside devices like the T-Mobile G2x, Qualcomm wants you to know that its Snapdragon processor has plenty of power, too.

In the video below, Qualcomm touts the Snapdragon and its ability to play back HD video. One of the cool things is that it can play 720p HD video in HTML5. Many times in Android, when you click on those videos, it’ll just kick you out to the media player.


It’s not just with HTML5 though, as Qualcomm Snapdragon has been working with Adobe to provide some high-quality Flash playback. There’s a portion in the video comparing the Flash HD video on a Qualcomm device versus a competing product and it’s not even close.
VIDEO-->> http://youtu.be/8ilIooqAnU0?hd=1

via
intomobile

Posted by doministry

On 2011-04-30 04:48:33, false_morel wrote:
It's not about the specs only!

But first, most of smartphones buyers get them by two-years contracts.. Not everybody has the budget and even if the budget is there the interest to change phones every few months!!

That's the only reason the dual cores make some sense.. In two years time, or more, as some keep their phones even more, those dual cores will meet their uses..

Anyway, still, it's not about the specs..
What does the Arc offer anything special against the competition? Three categories: Design, UI, and camera.

As to the design it's a winner.. Those who're looking for a stylish high-end, not just a black plastic brick (Samsung) or an even uglier multi-panel grey alu brick (HTC), the Arc is there.. SE delivered a unique design. A point counted for them. But really now, for someone going for a 400€+ SMARTPHONE, should the looks be high in the priority list or just considered an extra factor?!

As to the UI, it differs minimally in comparison to the standard UI.. And IMO, if they didn't have to do much, better leave it standard! Timescape is now a widget (app).. The standard UI is still the best IMO btw! But as to the current standards, for some reason I don't manage to figure out, it's considered boring and everyone is looking for as much customization and silly tricks and features as possilbe! For those the Touchwiz and the HTC Sense are the best!
So, either leave it standard, or work it out and deliver something on par with the Sense..

And as to the camera, had SE delivered something special here, then we'd be talking.. It may still be the best camera on an Android high-end, but just barely.. The others aren't far behind.. That is, nothing special here or worth considering as an extra point!

Everything else considered, the Arc lags behind..

Maybe, in comparison to the O2X, it could win more votes and even sell better! But as to the Atrix, Sensation, and GII, it is inferior..

It's a tough competition really.. And now that SE turned into a smartphone manufacturer and ditched the feature phones department, they really need to do more. Specially that they're relying on one platform only.
Their line-up is the smallest among all competitors, and they lack any stamp in the Android world..
HTC have their Sense UI or instance.. Samsung have their displays, Touchwiz, best specs..

SE introduced the Play of course.. Which was unfairly judged by almost all reviewers!! But they also need to give it some exclusive material! Only one Playsation title?! Really?! Had the Play for instance been released with a whole bunch of PS titles, then it'd be viewed differently.. Also, if it had packed a better GPU! Why not Adreno 220 instead of 205 for instance.. Minor stuff that really count..

Well for you stock Android UI is good, for others it's cr..p. I can't stand it.
For me and some others Arc's UI is the best existing. But you can't objectively say which is best or worse. This is bull..shit.
As for specs it's just blah blah blah ATM.
I've seen some comparative videos and in fact those differences are just nothing for the user.

Of course you always have to push when you make phones and we'll see the strategy in the future.

I could also revert the question - what special thing SGSII gives besides the gimmick.
It's iPhone ripoff and also as some stated above, the quality..... In Poland we joke "Sheissung" - it's a mix of Scheiss (sh.t in German) and Samsung.

Posted by false_morel

On 2011-04-30 15:40:58, doministry wrote:
Well for you stock Android UI is good, for others it's cr..p. I can't stand it.
For me and some others Arc's UI is the best existing. But you can't objectively say which is best or worse. This is bull..shit.


What I wanted to hint to is that SE introduced nothing special by this UI!
It resides somewhere in between the standard UI and the likes of Touchwiz and Sense UI..

It's not all bad of course.. Going with light customization may reduce the bugs and the lags as well as enable SE to give the respective updates in faster rates..
Still, it might not appeal to the majority out there..
However, I agree it could come also to individual tastes and priorities..

As for specs it's just blah blah blah ATM.
I've seen some comparative videos and in fact those differences are just nothing for the user.

Of course you always have to push when you make phones and we'll see the strategy in the future.


I'm aware of this new hype about the processor speeds.. Similar to that of the MP race..
However, this shares with the MP race only one thing: Given too much attention and shouldn't be the main standard to rank the smartphones upon.

However, unlike the MP count which is even a secondary factor in defining the quality of a cameraphone, and even has bad consequences the more it higher it goes, processor speeds don't!

Only concern is battery usage. But it is confirmed that with the right optimization the dual core is more efficient than a single core..
Other than that, as said, there may be no optimized software right now for such hardware, but it wont stay long like this!
In two years time, even the 1.2 dual cores would be outdated and not enough to run the software then!
Same concept as with laptops..

I could also revert the question - what special thing SGSII gives besides the gimmick.


Here we go:
- Super AMOLED Plus > LED-backlit LCD
- 16 GB > 320MB internal memory!! (Even if there is an 8GB SD card included with the arc)
- 1GB RAM > 512 MB!!!
- 1650 mAh > 1500 mAh
- 1080 HD > 720 HD (not important)
- Bluetooth 3.0 > 2.1 (not important)
- Mali-400MP > Adreno 205
- 1.2 GHz Dual Core Exynos > 1 GHz single core Scorpion
- Supports all media formats (video and audio) > doesn't support all formats (not sure but does the Arc support DivX/XviD?)

That's not to mention the Arc's issues and missing features that aren't there on the SGII:
- No Gyroscope, NFC (not important), USB OTG!, front facing camera (Come on! The SGII has 2MP one!!), bad positioning of the camera and headset jack, and despite the hype SE made about the camera sensor, the SGII is on par with it..

The Arc wins on the design, and that it has a camera shutter button althoug it's too small and replaced awkwardly at the very end of the phone!

Again, the Arc will be like 100 to 150€ cheaper, so it's all up for the user to decide.

It's iPhone ripoff and also as some stated above, the quality..... In Poland we joke "Sheissung" - it's a mix of Scheiss (sh.t in German) and Samsung.


I might get the SGII but just to test it! Not a fan of the design at all nor of the UI..
And unless Samsung stop copying and start to innovate they'll stay by my standards all cheap Korean products!
Same story with HTC and their crappy hardware..

I'll just stick to Nokia and SE prodcuts and nothing seem to change for me soon..

One can't deny though that Samsung are offering the top Android devices in the market right now..

Posted by titus1

On 2011-05-02 04:52:43, false_morel wrote:

On 2011-04-30 15:40:58, doministry wrote:
Well for you stock Android UI is good, for others it's cr..p. I can't stand it.
For me and some others Arc's UI is the best existing. But you can't objectively say which is best or worse. This is bull..shit.


What I wanted to hint to is that SE introduced nothing special by this UI!
It resides somewhere in between the standard UI and the likes of Touchwiz and Sense UI..

It's not all bad of course.. Going with light customization may reduce the bugs and the lags as well as enable SE to give the respective updates in faster rates..
Still, it might not appeal to the majority out there..
However, I agree it could come also to individual tastes and priorities..

As for specs it's just blah blah blah ATM.
I've seen some comparative videos and in fact those differences are just nothing for the user.

Of course you always have to push when you make phones and we'll see the strategy in the future.


I'm aware of this new hype about the processor speeds.. Similar to that of the MP race..
However, this shares with the MP race only one thing: Given too much attention and shouldn't be the main standard to rank the smartphones upon.

However, unlike the MP count which is even a secondary factor in defining the quality of a cameraphone, and even has bad consequences the more it higher it goes, processor speeds don't!

Only concern is battery usage. But it is confirmed that with the right optimization the dual core is more efficient than a single core..
Other than that, as said, there may be no optimized software right now for such hardware, but it wont stay long like this!
In two years time, even the 1.2 dual cores would be outdated and not enough to run the software then!
Same concept as with laptops..

I could also revert the question - what special thing SGSII gives besides the gimmick.


Here we go:
- Super AMOLED Plus > LED-backlit LCD
- 16 GB > 320MB internal memory!! (Even if there is an 8GB SD card included with the arc)
- 1GB RAM > 512 MB!!!
- 1650 mAh > 1500 mAh
- 1080 HD > 720 HD (not important)
- Bluetooth 3.0 > 2.1 (not important)
- Mali-400MP > Adreno 205
- 1.2 GHz Dual Core Exynos > 1 GHz single core Scorpion
- Supports all media formats (video and audio) > doesn't support all formats (not sure but does the Arc support DivX/XviD?)

That's not to mention the Arc's issues and missing features that aren't there on the SGII:
- No Gyroscope, NFC (not important), USB OTG!, front facing camera (Come on! The SGII has 2MP one!!), bad positioning of the camera and headset jack, and despite the hype SE made about the camera sensor, the SGII is on par with it..

The Arc wins on the design, and that it has a camera shutter button althoug it's too small and replaced awkwardly at the very end of the phone!

Again, the Arc will be like 100 to 150€ cheaper, so it's all up for the user to decide.

It's iPhone ripoff and also as some stated above, the quality..... In Poland we joke "Sheissung" - it's a mix of Scheiss (sh.t in German) and Samsung.


I might get the SGII but just to test it! Not a fan of the design at all nor of the UI..
And unless Samsung stop copying and start to innovate they'll stay by my standards all cheap Korean products!
Same story with HTC and their crappy hardware..

I'll just stick to Nokia and SE prodcuts and nothing seem to change for me soon..

One can't deny though that Samsung are offering the top Android devices in the market right now..


No matter how you would compare Arc to other Android phone and vice versa...it still boils down to user preference.
I've seen satisfied Arc user here...let 'em be. For the discussion of "what's better" is already in the loop.

Posted by rickster2kuk
The SGSII does look an amazing phone, certainly specs wise, but after seeing the Samsung UI customisation I was less than impressed, it looks horrible compared with HTC, SE even the stock interface looks better.

The camera is on par with the Arc, I checked the crops of the samples and they are very good, my only concern is that it sometimes seem to "blow" out the sky, more so than the Arc, but this is something that could be corrected in the firmware.

Posted by se_dude
Btw, it does have a gyroscope. Just to let you know. And btw, the thing that the GSII cant beat the arc is in shutter speed. The Arc has a shutter speed of less than 1 sec in good light and 1-2 secs in low light.

Posted by rmk152
Guys, i bought a SE Arc because i wanted it. If i wanted a SGSII i would have bought one.

I dont care if SGSII is better (possibly) as i wanted an ARC. Comming from a SE Satio/Vivaz i am more than happy.

SE Arc Rocks!!!

Posted by back2you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffmBFGeEPDM

Posted by tranced
Looks awesome

Posted by Toney_Ericsson
Does anyone know if o2 pay and go phones are unlocked these days? Just I noticed the Arc is only £359.99 on the o2 website as appose to the £420 sim free on most websites. Thought I would mention it as that's quite a big difference.

Posted by Bonovox
No,they are locked

Posted by HxH
Anyone with LT15a from Rogers?

Posted by Uncle Bob
What's the difference between the LT15i and the LT15a?

I have a LT15i (I think) from O2.

btw. Very happy with it


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