Posted by hihihans
I had a 5 minute play with Arc this morning. It felt solid, smooth UI and a stunning screen
The girl who owns it comes from a cheap Samsung clamshell. She's amazed every time she touches Arc
Posted by Bonovox
Mine never felt solid
Posted by Caspa
I REALLY want one...
Been relegated even further with the work phone as the Bold was playing up... Now using a Curve so dont even have 3G!!!
Posted by Ricke77
It is as solid as a plastic phone can get. Much better all other plastic phones I ever used. I like it alot. Ive been using mine now for 2 weeks and it just keeps gettin better and better.
Posted by justus333
Little update on the battery issue. Ever since switchin back to the stock launcher, battery life is quite good. Not overwhelming but manageable.
Avoid the Launcher Pro!
Posted by Caspa
You guys are just making it worse for me and my crappy Curve!
Havent had a phone this rubbish since I was last between jobs and had to get myself a temporary phone which was some Nokia twenty quid jobby!
Seriously tempted to just go out and get one on contract and just whack my work sim in it!
Posted by hihihans
Just do it Caspa!
Posted by rickster2kuk
Got my Arc this morning. I was sceptical but this really is a big improvement over the X10. Screen is incredible, so vibrant, and looks so like the AMOLED screens Samsung use.
Speed and fluidity of the OS is much better than X10.
Few first niggles; very easy to press the bottom of the screen when trying to press the button, have to be careful. Also the LED light on the side isn't that easy to see compared to the X10.
Anyone notice the stock calendar doesn't seem to display all day events in the 'month view', you can see them in agenda but not highlighted on the month view.
I miss not having the integrated timescape widget on the main screen, with the Arc at present you can only have either FB, Twitter, Messages not a combination of both, which seems a little strange. I liked the X10 widget which basically showed everything (email, FB, messages, etc).
Also miss the web thumbnail widget on the X10 which gave you the three pains showing 'most visited' and 'recently visited' weblinks, that was handy but I think they've removed it in Gingerbread.
Haven't had a good indication of battery life as I've hammered it today what with setting everything up.
Posted by prodjsxb
On 2011-04-14 20:53:00, Ricke77 wrote:
It is as solid as a plastic phone can get. Much better all other plastic phones I ever used. I like it alot. Ive been using mine now for 2 weeks and it just keeps gettin better and better.
Exactly! It may be plastic, but it is very good quality. The chassis is solid!
Posted by Bonovox
As usual I must have had a shitty one cos mine was terrible. The whole casing would creak if clutched & battery door was not a good fit.I could feel quite a bit of give underneath the battery door where I could tap it & hear it knock the battery
Posted by Caspa
On 2011-04-14 23:41:39, rickster2kuk wrote:
I miss not having the integrated timescape widget on the main screen, with the Arc at present you can only have either FB, Twitter, Messages not a combination of both, which seems a little strange. I liked the X10 widget which basically showed everything (email, FB, messages, etc).
thats interesting as i dont like unified inboxes and didnt think i would use the widget, but if its just one i could...
Posted by prodjsxb
On 2011-04-15 02:08:17, Bonovox wrote:
As usual I must have had a shitty one cos mine was terrible. The whole casing would creak if clutched & battery door was not a good fit.I could feel quite a bit of give underneath the battery door where I could tap it & hear it knock the battery
Weird, the Arc I have does not flex at all, so no creaking. Battery cover is a perfect it. Was yours a prototype or something? Maybe the battery cover was defective from the mould and was the cause of the problem?
Posted by HYPER-X10
My Arc turned up this morning and I have to say, I'm extremely impressed.
It's night and day compared to the X10. Even after using the Arc for 10 min, grabbing the X10 was like a step back in time. Anyone who thinks it's just a small upgrade (i.e. people who don't have one) is on crack
Posted by fjcarlsson
I can only agree with what most people are saying here, the build is solid. I'm really happy with the Arc so far but I do miss the latest version of the calendar in X10, it is like taking a step back going to andriod default, especially as the email client has been updated to. what the X10 calendar was like. Maybe we'll get it back in a future update. The screen and responsiveness is amazing and the few grams they shaved off the weight compared to X10 makes a big difference.
Posted by Caspa
I've read that the Timescape widget plays a major role in battery drain... Maybe people can test it out and see how much they get out of the battery without the widget...
Posted by unknown_x
On 2011-04-14 23:41:39, rickster2kuk wrote:
I miss not having the integrated timescape widget on the main screen, with the Arc at present you can only have either FB, Twitter, Messages not a combination of both, which seems a little strange. I liked the X10 widget which basically showed everything (email, FB, messages, etc).
Are you sure?
when you select timescape widget you see this:
Then if you select "timescape" you have a combination of everything
Posted by tranced
Guess which avatar is available in black?
Posted by Bonovox
On 2011-04-15 04:19:24, prodjsxb wrote:
On 2011-04-15 02:08:17, Bonovox wrote:
As usual I must have had a shitty one cos mine was terrible. The whole casing would creak if clutched & battery door was not a good fit.I could feel quite a bit of give underneath the battery door where I could tap it & hear it knock the battery
Weird, the Arc I have does not flex at all, so no creaking. Battery cover is a perfect it. Was yours a prototype or something? Maybe the battery cover was defective from the mould and was the cause of the problem?
A prototype?? WTF?? Come on,it was sold to me for £419
I still think it's a great phone but for that price it's longevity is questionable 
[ This Message was edited by: Bonovox on 2011-04-15 14:22 ]
Posted by Ricky D
No arc silver avatar yet
Not that mine has arrived yet, still in customs awaiting clearance.
Posted by Webalistic
On 2011-04-15 14:03:11, unknown_x wrote:
On 2011-04-14 23:41:39, rickster2kuk wrote:
I miss not having the integrated timescape widget on the main screen, with the Arc at present you can only have either FB, Twitter, Messages not a combination of both, which seems a little strange.
Are you sure?
when you select timescape widget you see this:
(images)
Then if you select "timescape" you have a combination of everything
If you start the timescape app and go to settings, it allows you to set which feeds you want to show (also applies to the widget). I added the timescape linkedin component, but that slows the phone down and every now and then crashes the top bar, so I turned it off again.
Posted by Lightspeed_x
@unknown_x: Where are you from?
Posted by SKIBBE
Uninstalled ADW.Launcher EX yesterday, and battery preformance is improved that sucks. ARC launcher is okey but not nice looking.
Posted by Arne Anka
On 2011-04-15 12:58:53, Caspa wrote:
I've read that the Timescape widget plays a major role in battery drain... Maybe people can test it out and see how much they get out of the battery without the widget...
Anything that automatically syncs plays a major role in battery drain. One need to be careful how the sync parameters are configured.
Posted by Del
Quick question guys, does the arc come with google maps preinstalled, ie the map data already there ?
Posted by tranced
The Google maps comes bundled, but the data is online.
Posted by dsr27
oooh I can upgrade early and get the Arc at a cost of £30
£30 month contract, 600mins, unlimited txts and 500MB of mobile internet and webmail which is better than my current £25 month contract as I only get 300mins & unlimited txt, not that I actually use all if any of my mins a month 
Now if the lady will let her man splash out £30 rather than wait 2months hehehe
Posted by Del
On 2011-04-15 19:43:48, tranced wrote:
The Google maps comes bundled, but the data is online.
So there's no pre installed maps there downloaded as you go ?
Posted by Caspa
On 2011-04-15 20:46:48, Del wrote:
On 2011-04-15 19:43:48, tranced wrote:
The Google maps comes bundled, but the data is online.
So there's no pre installed maps there downloaded as you go ?
That'll be as standard on Android then... Think its only HTC who have gone the preinstalled route...
Posted by Del
Ah cheers
Posted by Bonovox
Keep thinking I may try another Arc to see if I get a better one this time
I did love it 
Posted by dibdin
Might as well, what have you got to lose.
Posted by Bonovox
On 2011-04-15 21:20:13, dibdin wrote:
Might as well, what have you got to lose.
Money
Posted by tai020381
Maybe that time you did not lock the back cover properly!! That happened to my arc once too. I have to give the top part a hard press to make it "click" (lock the phone cover) proper.
Posted by Bonovox
Don't be daft
I know how to put a battery cover on. The whole phone would creak & squeak when I held it with battery cover clicked on in every corner. Mine really was terrible. I am sure if I did have another one from somewhere else it may be ok.
Posted by rickster2kuk
On 2011-04-15 14:03:11, unknown_x wrote:
On 2011-04-14 23:41:39, rickster2kuk wrote:
I miss not having the integrated timescape widget on the main screen, with the Arc at present you can only have either FB, Twitter, Messages not a combination of both, which seems a little strange. I liked the X10 widget which basically showed everything (email, FB, messages, etc).
Lovely, cheers for that!
Agree on the calendar, X10 cal was much better than the stock cal now on the Arc.
Anyone know how to get the most visited webpages widget back?
Posted by prodjsxb
@ Bonovox
I was being sarcastic about the prototype thing
[ This Message was edited by: prodjsxb on 2011-04-15 23:22 ]
Posted by Caspa
On 2011-04-15 21:14:28, Bonovox wrote:
Keep thinking I may try another Arc to see if I get a better one this time
I did love it
Go on, you know you wanna!
Posted by Bonovox
As I said I loved the performance and quality but the one I had was terribly built. Why always me with the bad luck with phones?? Anyway,if I get another one not direct from SE I will hunt down a silver one
Posted by Piecan
@Bonovox do you think you could love it's size and would you still love it as much when Neo comes out?
I keep being tempted by the Arc, but after I read your description I decided to wait for the Neo. In the meantime I still love my W995.
Posted by xtacy
What version of Google Maps does the Arc come with? Isn't v.5+ supposed to come with offline caching?
Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't that equate to having the map data offline?
Posted by titus1
On 2011-04-16 01:29:00, Bonovox wrote:
As I said I loved the performance and quality but the one I had was terribly built. Why always me with the bad luck with phones?? Anyway,if I get another one not direct from SE I will hunt down a silver one
It's not about the phone...it is just you...
Posted by Ricky D
@xtacy
Google maps is updateable to the newest release version for that particular region through the market.
The offline caching is a relatively small amount as far as I can tell. It's not there so you can, for example, cache up the entire UK maps and be fine to go on your merry way. The caching is more for speed of loading of often visited areas of the map.
Also I can't find the setting to tell it how much to cache (my current map cache is 14MB).
Posted by smclion102
White ARC
Posted by Bonovox
@titus1 I can assure you it's not. Would you be happy with a poorly put together device for over £400?? I think not. Mine was bad after a day or so. In the past I have either had crap phones I don't like or bad faulty ones. Quite a few I have stuck with. But I am not paying a large amount of money for something that feels like a toy. A couple of owners of the Arc so far have thought on here the build was not great. I know it's not the vast majority but yes we might have had a bad batch. But please don't make it personal saying it's me. Would you accept a new car with a door that felt loose like the battery door on my Arc?? No.
Posted by xtacy
@Ricky D,
So the cache would be enough say, for day to day travel in the same town/city? Or at least the most frequented routes?
Posted by Ricky D
@xtacy I really don't know, I never turn off my data to find out exactly how much I have cached. I suppose it depends on the length of your frequent journeys and the zoom you use. Don't forget each time you zoom in it'll load a slightly more detailed map. I'm sure they do some clever things to make it so every zoom isn't a completely different download but there'll only be so much magic there.
Posted by tranced
Guess which avatar is available in silver?
Posted by Bonovox
Nice
Posted by tranced
@smclion102: a white one? A luster white just like the X10?
Posted by dibdin
Anyone still got the same screen protector on from day one? Mine is still fine so far.
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