Posted by dibdin
On 2011-03-30 22:17:50, Toney_Ericsson wrote:
Hahaha I haven't even posted anything recently and your mentioning my name.
Why aren't others allowed to have an opinion, it's pretty obvious the Arc isn't nothing special anyway.
Any time someone says ah that camera isn't much better than the X10 or something you get this oh yes it is oh no it isn't rubbish on here.
Spoke to someone earlier I know in Phones 4U that had a demo of it and even she said it wasn't any good and that the DHD is better.
Face facts its a low RAM plastic piece of crap.
Who gives a flying toss who you spoke to at phones 4U and what they said, you think just because someone said (it wasn't any good) therefore it isn't.
You talk a load of crap anyway, so why don't you sod off.
Posted by Toney_Ericsson
You forgot to add "Boohoo" to that ^
Posted by dibdin
On 2011-03-30 22:54:05, Toney_Ericsson wrote:
You forgot to add "Boohoo" to that ^
I didn't need to.
Posted by Bonovox
I have just woken up cos I needed some water. Toney having had the undesirable Desire HD myself it was an ugly big fat brown piece of junk. The camera is crap mate just as you say this one is. Without running anything and using bare minimun the battery life on the HD is shit. Running hardly anything during a test the battery was showing red by 4pm. Look we like the Arc and you don't which we have all gathered by now. Yours is not an opinion its taking satisfaction of annoying others who like the Arc and still love SE. Why do you have to be so childish about it all?? Act your age not your shoe size. As for Phones4U they have no clue about phones all they know is sales. Their knowledge of phones can be written on a postage stamp. Say something constructive stop being so negative all the time we know now you hate it just give it a rest.
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Posted by Toney_Ericsson
Go to bed its past your bed time ^
Posted by Bonovox
See there you go again. I give up total idiot
Posted by Toney_Ericsson
On 2011-03-30 23:12:00, Bonovox wrote:
See there you go again. I give up total idiot
Past your bed time deluded se child.
Posted by Miss UK
Im not having a go either but the ARC isn't anything special really its just another X10i with a few
added things now that the x10i is grabbing the 2.3 gingerpubes thing then why should anyone go and buy a ARC?
so in theory Toney im with you
oh and ps, ive been and Joined the hTC club previousely,
no quams with them looking forward to see what happens next year
in the meantime im happy with my X10i
much better then the Wildfire for certain things but I do like the wildfire
Posted by brize
Kinda childish attitude in here. Just out of curiosity Toney, why do you think the Arc is a piece of crap cell? Considering the small differences between Arc and DHD I'd say it's pretty much a choice between two similar devices.
(Arc and DHD comparsion: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3619&idPhone2=3468)
Posted by Bonovox
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Oh no not another one. Miss UK every new phone that comes to market is another version of the last one a few added new features duh. This also adds better performance overall.
Posted by Miss UK
Well I think these Companys need a kick in the right steering direction then.
ARC is way to much like a X10i
looks, same functions of it even.
why didn't they add some new functions to it like a 12MP camera or something? hmm
sorry but its something I wouldn't consider!
Posted by Toney_Ericsson
On 2011-03-30 23:45:31, brize wrote:
Kinda childish attitude in here. Just out of curiosity Toney, why do you think the Arc is a piece of crap cell? Considering the small differences between Arc and DHD I'd say it's pretty much a choice between two similar devices.
(Arc and DHD comparsion: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3619&idPhone2=3468)
Build quality for me, thats something Sony Ericsson need to get right. Really put off by the cheap plastic.
Any ways a review from Engadget today
http://www.engadget.com/2011/[....]ny-ericsson-xperia-arc-review/
Lol at the commenter "Those buttons are just cheap"
[ This Message was edited by: Toney_Ericsson on 2011-03-30 22:55 ]
Posted by Bonovox
Jesus its hardly going to fall apart. Many reviews have already said build quality was solid. Who cares about metal. Toney your getting boring now change the record.
Posted by Miss UK
Eww I hate that colour of ARC on that link Toney
Posted by Alye
Went into O2 shop in the Trafford Centre and asked if they had the Arc. The guy said "end of the month" . I said "Errmm but it's the 30th today" he replied "oh yeah... I meant the end of the month of April" Patience is a virtue
Alye
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[ This Message was edited by: Alye on 2011-03-30 23:00 ]
Posted by dibdin
On 2011-03-30 23:53:01, Miss UK wrote:
ARC is way to much like a X10i
looks, same functions of it even.
No way.....Arc is a much nicer looking more stylish handset in every sense of the word. To me there is no comparison.
Posted by Toney_Ericsson
On 2011-03-30 23:59:47, Alye wrote:
Went into O2 shop in the Trafford Centre and asked if they had the Arc. The guy said "end of the month" . I said "Errmm but it's the 30th today" he replied "oh yeah... I meant the end of the month of April" Patience is a virtue
Alye
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[ This Message was edited by: Alye on 2011-03-30 23:00 ]
Phones 4U are getting them in Friday for sure, Carphone Warehouse will be the same no doubt. O2 stores take forever with all releases.
PS: I dislike dishonest Sales people.
[ This Message was edited by: Toney_Ericsson on 2011-03-30 23:09 ]
Posted by Miss UK
I don't like that Silver one at all!
go buy it to hell what me and Toney think
Posted by Toney_Ericsson
All this thinness doesn't do it for me either, if the Arc was the same size as the X10 then they could of put a battery double the size like a 3000 mAh into it.
Posted by Alye
Thank you Toney but CPW don't have it in O2 which is what I want
Alye
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Posted by Miss UK
LOL I was thinking that too bit like those MOTO Razrs mema those?
I flaming hated emm
Ps that link you posted the comparison btw both the Arc and DHD
well Idefo have the DHD outta the 2
isn't much of a difference btw both tho but the DHD is much nicer looks a good quality handset
I had a play with it when It cameout I really wanted it but the £££ of it wasn't a option lol
[ This Message was edited by: Miss UK on 2011-03-30 23:29 ]
Posted by Bonovox
Goto the HTC thread then
Posted by Miss UK
Jeez u lot get a grip it's only a Phone
Posted by Toney_Ericsson
On 2011-03-31 00:26:04, Alye wrote:
Thank you Toney but CPW don't have it in O2 which is what I want
Alye
[ This Message was edited by: Alye on 2011-03-30 23:27 ]
I'm unsure if your looking at an upgrade or getting it sim free but it sounds like that o2 Sales person didn't know what they were talking about as the Arc is being released this Friday at other retailers, thats stores and internet. Perhaps phone o2 if you want it directly from them to find out a proper date as end of April isn't right.
Posted by unknown_x
On 2011-03-30 23:53:10, Toney_Ericsson wrote:
On 2011-03-30 23:45:31, brize wrote:
Kinda childish attitude in here. Just out of curiosity Toney, why do you think the Arc is a piece of crap cell? Considering the small differences between Arc and DHD I'd say it's pretty much a choice between two similar devices.
(Arc and DHD comparsion: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3619&idPhone2=3468)
Build quality for me, thats something Sony Ericsson need to get right. Really put off by the cheap plastic.
Any ways a review from Engadget today
http://www.engadget.com/2011/[....]ny-ericsson-xperia-arc-review/
Lol at the commenter "Those buttons are just cheap"
[ This Message was edited by: Toney_Ericsson on 2011-03-30 22:55 ]
The review from engadget is the funniest thing i've ever read, facts:
-they say that "Sony Ericsson has opted for a trifecta of physical buttons on the Xperia Arc (the Back and Menu keys have swapped positions from the X10 arrangement), which are thankfully wide, easily identifiable, and highly intuitive to use. Aside from the good clicky responsiveness of each button, that's in large part down to the omission of the Search key, which we can't say we missed at all. Its absence paves the way for SE to center the Home button (a good thing) and generally simplifies a user control scheme that hardly needed to be quite so complex to begin with. The only downside to the Arc's buttonry is one we spotted with the Xperia Play as well -- there's no illumination for the key labels in the dark. You get a pair of lights marking the division between each key, but their purpose is basically indecipherable when the phone's used in the dark. An easily forgivable little foible, we'd say, on what is a very satisfying keypad."
So, they are easily identifiable and high intuitive to use BUT you want them to be iluminated too because you can't identify them in the dark... woot! bullshit.
-They say it's very beautiful, but the curvature and being too thin "does hold the Xperia Arc back from being one of the easiest-handling smartphones in the 4-inch-plus division"
Okey, so why they didn't say nothing about that in the iPhone4 review? It's thin and doesn't have any kind of curvature or ergonomics for the human hand.
-They say that it has a really good screen but with bad viewing angles, true, but they talk much more about the bad things(just that one), like if everyone use the phone from the side...
-They say it has a camera button...but instead of being a good thing, they say that it is very close to the corner...wtf? so other phones like the iPhone4, SGSI or SGSII don't have it and nobody cares but now this is a bad thing...funny.
-They say that the camera is really good, but the interface "is more of a hit and miss affair.", why? because they say that it's well done but "displeased us a little with its scant array of available tweaks, which curiously enough doesn't even allow you to toggle the Arc's Macro mode on and off.", okey, here we go:
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Bah...just 3 or 4 tweaks at all...ah and of course, there is a manual macro mode, how come they say there isn't?
-They don't say nothing about sound quality(music-radio-video with earphones and with the speaker), voice quality, GPS speed, etc
-Funniest thing, they gave it a 7/10, but the HTC incredible S, with the same chipset, more ram, worse screen, worse design, worse camera and android 2.2 have a 8/10...okey...sure
About build quality, a thing that you love to talk about a lot, they say that:
Overall build quality feels robust and durable, though we're again under the impression that Sony Ericsson wasn't spending too richly in obtaining the construction materials.
and other websites say this:
The Arc feels solidly constructed, with no loose parts. Although it is light, it doesn’t feel “plasticky” unlike some other smartphones. The 4 sides are lined with an aluminium finish and overall, the unit looks very classy and not “tackily cheap”. It certainly attracted a few glances when I took it out of my pocket when I was in cafes having a meal.
So it seems that it isn't so plasticky as some think
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Posted by Bonovox
Well said I am off.
Posted by Toney_Ericsson
The camera UI is better on my HTC than that so I agree with that review about being a "scant array". Not much thought has gone into that UI either.
Posted by Lunion
On 2011-03-30 23:59:47, Alye wrote:
Went into O2 shop in the Trafford Centre and asked if they had the Arc. The guy said "end of the month" . I said "Errmm but it's the 30th today" he replied "oh yeah... I meant the end of the month of April" Patience is a virtue
Alye
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[ This Message was edited by: Alye on 2011-03-30 23:00 ]
I phoned CPW yesterday and they called o2 while I was on the phone. o2 told them that they will have the Arc on their network by the 7th April. That's next Thursday. Fingers crossed
Posted by unknown_x
On 2011-03-31 00:52:36, Toney_Ericsson wrote:
The camera UI is better on my HTC than that so I agree with that review about being a "scant array". Not much thought has gone into that UI either.
The Desire HD instead of Auto, fill-flash, red eye reduction and flash off it has Auto, manual and off...it doesn't even have MACRO MODE so what the hell are you talking about?
those vignette and bullshit modes that can be done with the photoshop app? don't make me laugh please does it even has predefined scenes? , from mobile review:
You can make your own judgment about the picture quality by taking a look at the samples below. Although there is no macro mode in the device, close-up shots are not that bad. However in general, despite its 8-megapixel camera, the HTC Desire HD is as poor in terms of picture quality as its predecessors. Compared to the Samsung Galaxy S and Sony Ericsson X10, its camera appears weak, especially in the photo shooting mode.
Have fun
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Posted by Toney_Ericsson
Go have a look on xda then there's close up macro shots on there. The DHD auto focuses yes and the same happens with close up macro type shots. You should go read up about it as you obviously don't know anything.
Posted by unknown_x
Auto Focus is crap for macro shots, here and at XDA, from phonearena:
Focusing is a bit of an issue, with shots out of focus roughly 10% of the time. Colour reproduction is on the whole okay, however inconsistent. While some shots, such as that of the post box produce a decent level of saturation, others look dull, and others washed out. Detail isn't too bad at all in well lit environments, however, any night shots don't even need to be zoomed into to notice the crackle. Exposure is also very inconsistent. The camera interface allows for touch to focus, which also controls what we presume to be spot metering, and there is an exposure bar which can be adjusted, however, in automatic, we found that the HTC Desire HD got it wrong more often than we would have hoped.
GSMArena
the Desire HD camera wouldn’t rank among the top 8MP Android shooters (or 8MP cameras in general).
And please, stop talking about xda like if we are retarded or so, it's not the first time i read you talking about "you are at xda, we don't and don't know anything at all", probably most of us have an account there
Posted by Bonovox
Somebody once said to me why buy a phone that looks.the same as the last one. Well for starters better specs. And secondly as for phones that look the same iphone or HTC anyone?? I am sick of this thread now even though I receive my device tomorrow I am staying off here till this trolling stops. For heavens sake Toney you don't like the Arc who cares your boring the shit out everyone.
Posted by titus1
HTC's camera on their devices (be it Android or WP7) wasn't really that good. It's HTC's least priority when making a phone. This is coming from HTC Desire experience.
Posted by Toney_Ericsson
Regarding the Arc which is what this thread is about so far all the night time shots the Arc takes are crap.
Posted by doministry
Xactly. HTC cameras are well known for their weakness.
As for imaging I don't take anything besides
, some Nokias are nice too.
Posted by Ravager
Everyone want to justify their choice of phone, i get it... but please stop the HTC bullshit in a SE arc thread!
And for the record, no other phone have anything close to the Arc´s camera interface, it's simply gorgeous!
[ This Message was edited by: Ravager on 2011-03-31 01:38 ]
Posted by Bonovox
Traditionally a CMOS sensor can produce more noise. But. They produce less noise at higher ISO.
Posted by Ravanelli
On 2011-03-31 02:02:42, Toney_Ericsson wrote:
Regarding the Arc which is what this thread is about so far all the night time shots the Arc takes are crap.
So funny, in DHD u can't see anything on night shot.
DHD's daylight shot? That is crap! Nothing can compare it's "crappiness"
Posted by Supa_Fly
On 2011-03-31 02:34:04, Ravager wrote:
Everyone want to justify their choice of phone, i get it... but please stop the HTC bullshit in a SE arc thread!
And for the record, no other phone have anything close to the Arc´s camera interface, it's simply gorgeous!
[ This Message was edited by: Ravager on 2011-03-31 01:38 ]
Man your ignorance speaks of childhood narrow-mindedness. This thread is "The Official Arc Thread" not the The Arc ONLY thread. Anyone is able to speak their mind within the rules of the forum and within common decency to others.
That said lets go by past models, mistakes, and changes in direction that
has done and compare those movements with vast fans posting in multiple threads on Esato. Take notice that has paid quite a good amount of attention to users on these boards - maybe only a small handful few but they do. Of all the fan sites - the basis of the core sales by target audience (bread & butter), Esato is the OLDEST and the most popular of them all.
NOW with all of this … discussions of competing products in "official"
threads, both here & abroad, should be allowed to broaden minds, comparison shopping, even value conscious users looking to get the best for their hard-earned dollar. Being ignorant to what the competition offers has costs millions of dollars, sales, and almost their competitiveness: for proof one just needs to go back 4 qtrs to see the "RED" on the balance sheet of the partnership.
Posted by dibdin
On 2011-03-31 02:02:42, Toney_Ericsson wrote:
Regarding the Arc which is what this thread is about so far all the night time shots the Arc takes are crap.
Take a holiday and make sure its a long one like 3 or 4 years.
Posted by Ravanelli
On 2011-03-31 03:56:09, Prom1 wrote:
Man your ignorance speaks of childhood narrow-mindedness. This thread is "The Official Arc Thread" not the The Arc ONLY thread. Anyone is able to speak their mind within the rules of the forum and within common decency to others.
Now I'm asking u, when u in a restaurant do the waitress give u the whole menu instead of your specific kind of order when u don't say the word "ONLY"???
It's okay talking about other phones just for comparison, but speaking nonsense and repeat it again again and again is kind of annoying............
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Posted by titus1
On 2011-03-31 02:02:42, Toney_Ericsson wrote:
Regarding the Arc which is what this thread is about so far all the night time shots the Arc takes are crap.
With your DHD...was it great?
and and 
Posted by unknown_x
On 2011-03-31 02:02:42, Toney_Ericsson wrote:
Regarding the Arc which is what this thread is about
Hahahaha no no mate , you are the one saying "my DHD this" and "my DHD that" in this "Arc Thread", don't flee now
so far all the night time shots the Arc takes are crap.
The ARC is considered at the top in that kind of shots in mobile phone photography:
Hi-tech.mail.ru(translated)
Matrix itself 8.1-megapixel camera - Sony Exmor R.
This sensor technology Backlight provides an advantage when shooting in low light conditions.
In the predecessor, the X10 has been installed, perhaps the best 8.1 megapixel camera from the devices (see the comparison with the Nokia N8 Nikon Coolpix S220 and here ), the Xperia arc with Exmor sensor quality is also good, well above the 8-megapixel Galaxy S II, Optimus 2X, Desire HD.
This sensor technology Backlight provides an advantage when shooting in low light conditions.
In the predecessor, the X10 has been installed, perhaps the best 8.1 megapixel camera from the devices (see the comparison with the Nokia N8 Nikon Coolpix S220 and here ), the Xperia arc with Exmor sensor quality is also good, well above the 8-megapixel Galaxy S II, Optimus 2X, Desire HD.
mytechnews.info:
the Xperia Arc’s camera definitely performed better in low to almost no near-distance light. Its pictures were exposed better, and colours looked more “real”.
Or just a little comparison(ARC,iPhone4, N8)
DARK
Xperia arc
iPhone 4
Nokia N8
Building at night
Xperia arc
Galaxy S
iPhone 4
Nokia N8
let's check out what they say about the DHD
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Phonearena
This leads directly onto night shots, which as mentioned, aren't particularly usable unless the subject is well lit.
The camera performs pretty well in well lit, and even in environments with medium lighting, however, as soon as the lights go down any lower, it struggles a lot.
The camera performs pretty well in well lit, and even in environments with medium lighting, however, as soon as the lights go down any lower, it struggles a lot.
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Posted by Bonovox
The thing that annoys me is yes we can have debate and compare stuff but since when is debate words like. The Arc is shit the phone is plastic crap its camera is crap. He just repeats the same comments again and again. Toney you don't contribute constructive debate or conversation at all just annoy others. Its getting boring. Anyway for the comments of get a grip its just a phone well if you think that way then why are you on a phone forum?? I have a grip on life but I just wanna enjoy this discussion and owning the phone. I admit I have annoyed others in the past with stupid comments but I no longer do that. I wish to have a proper discussion rather than stupid childish comments. Anyway back to topic girls and boys. I am now awaiting my delivery with sleepy eyes. Them photos the building at night picture the Arc has best overall quality with warmest colours.
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Posted by goldenface
Bono, I'm really envious of the fact you're receiving your lovely new Arc today, it's a beaut for sure and gingerbread looks tasty.
Posted by Bonovox
Yes I am excited and I have used Gingerbread already with the Nexus S but that phone was average. But Gingerbread is buttery smooth and fast.
Posted by Bonovox
Arc has already arrived this minute. That was fast Sony Ericsson. Report back later today
Posted by hihihans
I wonder who is the first to change his name into Noah
Set sail!
Posted by dibdin
It looks likely I will have to wait till Monday till I get my Arc. Carphone have now told me they are not releasing the phone till tommorrow, so won't get it till Monday.
I have waited for this phone long enough, and now having another 3 days is so frustrating.
Posted by Bonovox
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guys its a stunning device and the screen is beautiful!! It feels and looks amazing!! Will report back later. HDMI cable is in my box