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Posted by Bonovox



Posted by SKIBBE
damn you mother earth!

Posted by Bonovox
Yes,indeed just as are to release new phones but at the end of the day material things matter not,it's peoples lives

Posted by Ricke77
But I guess they wont run out of components the first month...

Posted by Toney_Ericsson
Some were trying to slate far east manufactuers before glad they have an insight where Se's come from and I also hope they have a lengthy wait

Posted by Bonovox

On 2011-03-17 19:35:04, Toney_Ericsson wrote:
Some were trying to slate far east manufactuers before glad they have an insight where Se's come from and I also hope they have a lengthy wait



It ain't funny mate,it's serious over in Japan & i for one feel for them people. But remember that HTC are from Taiwan & Taiwan also gets quakes

Posted by Toney_Ericsson
I didn't mention a bad word about the people of Japan only to the fools on here previously trying to slate far east manufactuers when the majority of the worlds electronics come from over there.



Posted by northmonkey
Hopefully some will have already been sent over here seeming as they are due to come out on the 21st.

Posted by rickster2kuk
Toney, why do you even bother posting here? You just seem to want to wind people up and berate anything SE does, fair enough they've had their major fails but we all know about these. People are generally excited about the Arc but you have nothing positive to say. Do you have nothing better to do, seriously.

Posted by Bonovox
Yes,& his username still has Ericsson in it

Posted by Toney_Ericsson
Am I putting everything down what SE does or do they do that themselves? I was actually thinking about getting an Arc but what I have seen so far is just more rubbish.

Posted by AndyD777

On 2011-03-17 18:09:02, Toney_Ericsson wrote:
Hahaha f**k off my camera and even DHD takes better than that. That video taken with an Arc is complete shit!



I had a Desire HD and the camera is dire and the battery is shocking, so I returned the phone after 10 days.
[ This Message was edited by: AndyD777 on 2011-03-17 20:41 ]


Posted by rikken
I got rid of my HD after 2 weeks due to poor camera performance

Posted by Toney_Ericsson
Battery and camera issues are cleared up now. Camera noise was just sharpness being set too high. Battery was a mixture of people having everything updating every 5 minutes and running apps. I use my DHD just the same as my X10 and get the same out of it. There are ROMs to enhance performance overclocking and excellent battery on xda. In particular Revolution HD.

Will be interesting to see how the Arc performs similar internals but less RAM.
[ This Message was edited by: Toney_Ericsson on 2011-03-17 21:13 ]


Posted by Mizzle
Aaaaarc!

Posted by motvikt

On 2011-03-17 23:10:37, Mizzle wrote:
Aaaaarc!



What?! Where?!



Posted by Mizzle

On 2011-03-17 23:50:01, motvikt wrote:

On 2011-03-17 23:10:37, Mizzle wrote:
Aaaaarc!



What?! Where?!




In mah pocket!

Posted by Bonovox
When will make the next phone with Xenon flash??

Posted by motvikt

On 2011-03-17 23:55:22, Mizzle wrote:
In mah pocket!


Lucky bastard! Btw, have you heard about the third arc color? (not pink)
[ This Message was edited by: laffen on 2011-03-18 01:28 ]


Posted by dibdin
Will be placing my order for the Arc with Clove tommorrow.

Posted by Mizzle

On 2011-03-18 00:08:33, motvikt wrote:

Lucky bastard! Btw, have you heard about the third arc color? (not pink)



No, what colour is that?
[ This Message was edited by: laffen on 2011-03-18 01:27 ]


Posted by northmonkey

On 2011-03-18 00:13:44, dibdin wrote:
Will be placing my order for the Arc with Clove tommorrow.


I'm wondering whether it will still come out on time? There hasn't been any announcements to say it will be delayed so let's hope not as i am going to order one from Clove soon too once i know for sure that they are coming out on time.

Posted by laffen
Xperia Mini vs Xperia X10 vs Xperia Arc Qualcomm Adreno Neocore benchmark results.

YouTube


Neocore results
X10: 21.4 fps
Arc: 57.8 fps
Mini: 37.1 fps

The Arc is faster than the X10, but it does not feel three times faster. So these numbers are lying.

I also run the Quadrant benchmark and got similar results there:
Xperia Arc: 1612
Xperia X10: 511

Quadrant results

[ This Message was edited by: laffen on 2011-03-18 01:31 ]


Posted by HxH
Interesting and thanks for result

I just wonder that the Arc has retail software unit yet?
Because little brother Neo screw Desire HD up by above 60 FPS result with pre-release software unit.
With same hardware and optimized (I think) with most of importance identical the Arc should gain above 60 FPS as well.

Posted by Ricky D
@mizzle not seen you about in a while! Are we going to see a review/preview on se-blog.com?

And quickly to laffen or mizz, is the silver finish pure sexiness? Compared to say X10 in white?

Posted by SKIBBE
Quadrant score is some what missleading? I have gotten 1500 with my x10i on a freash 2.2 rom. And if i install ap2data i will get a few hundred over 2000.
1140 is my current score using a 2.2 rom with all my apps installed

neocore 28.7fps (wolfbreaks's 2.2 rom/current)

Edit, just noticed the date has changed to 03-31 where i was about to pre-order my arc, (from 04-01)
[ This Message was edited by: SKIBBE on 2011-03-18 06:31 ]



Posted by Mizzle

On 2011-03-18 05:43:04, Ricky D wrote:
@mizzle not seen you about in a while! Are we going to see a review/preview on se-blog.com?

And quickly to laffen or mizz, is the silver finish pure sexiness? Compared to say X10 in white?



Nah, not on se-blog.com. Pretty much threw that in a dumpster. Somewhere else perhaps!

And yeah, the silver one is pretty sweet. Definitely prefer it over the white X10 in terms of design (and everything else...)

Posted by norbi_nw
POST camera samples let us see what can it do. If you have a X10 maybe you can do compare shots. Im very curious because so far i have seen only bad pictures taken with the Arc. I couldn't find 1 good/ great picture. So i'm counting on you im bored at work, and have nothing to do so post post post. thank you

Posted by Mizzle
Quick look at HDMI out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJD8jVM-YgY

Posted by unknown_x
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSrnZETbxSU

Posted by laffen
Xperia X10 example photo in the dark

Original

Image data X10:
Shutter speed: 1/8 sec
Aperture: f/2.8
ISO: 640
Focal length: 4,7mm


Image data Arc:
Shutter speed: 1/8 sec
Aperture: f/2.4
ISO: 1250
Focal lenght: 4.1mm

The Xperia Arc

Original

Check out the YouTube video to see how quick the Arc is on focusing in dark environments.


Posted by norbi_nw
maybe i didn't analize it properly, but i see no picture improvement in the Arc. the extra brightness may come from the higher ISO. Any chance to snap some more and even some daylight pictures?

Posted by northmonkey

On 2011-03-18 11:43:22, norbi_nw wrote:
maybe i didn't analize it properly, but i see no picture improvement in the Arc. the extra brightness may come from the higher ISO. Any chance to snap some more and even some daylight pictures?



What? The arc pic is much better than the X10 one!

Posted by unknown_x

On 2011-03-18 11:43:22, norbi_nw wrote:
maybe i didn't analize it properly, but i see no picture improvement in the Arc. the extra brightness may come from the higher ISO. Any chance to snap some more and even some daylight pictures?


I've been analizing them for some minutes and i noticed that it isn't only ISO related, there is much more noise and less detail in the x10, probably thanks to the exmor R.

Check this out, you will notice the difference between both:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNVsmLX3M6A

Posted by dibdin

On 2011-03-18 02:00:34, northmonkey wrote:

On 2011-03-18 00:13:44, dibdin wrote:
Will be placing my order for the Arc with Clove tommorrow.


I'm wondering whether it will still come out on time? There hasn't been any announcements to say it will be delayed so let's hope not as i am going to order one from Clove soon too once i know for sure that they are coming out on time.


Well Clove are very quick normally to update their site if threre any changes made to release dates.

Had a look on the Clove this morning, and at present it is still showing the 28th March.

Posted by roanmy
It looks like the Exmor-R actually makes a difference in low light?

To those of you that have the Arc now: what's the SAR-value of it?

Posted by norbi_nw
@unknown
I have seen samples like that at the MWC videos. Seems like it can handle light better, but there isnt a major difference at pictures, maybe there is in VR. +that in daylight shots i havent seen any good pictures so far. Maybe the cameraman was always shaking, or fingerprints on the lens, but i havent seen 1 normal photo. I'm not saying it's bad or anything, but it aint great eighter. At least not as great as the hype. More samples plz?

EDIT: and after some more staring at the pictures, i STILL cant find more detail on the Arc shot, only more light and wider image. I still cant read the small letters that are on the books (well not that small), and what i can read on the Arc i can also read on the X10. Maybe the X10 misfocused, but thats about it. If there was a big difference it would pop out, and be obvious, but as long as i have to stare at them and analize at pixel level... well there isnt. Maybe it's this idiot Dell monitor from work, but i really CANT see any difference aside from more light.
Does it have wider angle lens or you took the picture from different positions? Because that can be a factor too. Waiting for some 1:1 identical shots.
[ This Message was edited by: norbi_nw on 2011-03-18 11:13 ]


Posted by Bonovox
Exmor R from what many professional photography experts say on what I read in photography magazines actually creates more noise. Its evident in the Sony WX1 Cyber-shot camera. Even many consumers were unconvinced. Even though I am getting the Neo I am not buying cos I am convinced of Exmor. I had a Sony camera with Exmor once and my newer Samsung camera with no CMOS sensor performed better in lowlight simply cos of its f1.8 bright lens. Its all a gimmick

Posted by laffen
Arc SAR value: 0.66 W/kg

Posted by Bonovox
Both shots have plenty of noise. Laffen how is the flash is it better than x10 flash¿¿

_________________
Xperia Neo(Pre-Order)
[ This Message was edited by: Bonovox on 2011-03-18 12:34 ]


Posted by SKIBBE
It's a MOBILE cam... it should be enought that it's way faster/can take photos rapidly than the x10. the new Exmor-R does not make the camera worse, but it's not like it will change the world ether. the Camera is GOOD(better then most) for a mobile period!
[ This Message was edited by: SKIBBE on 2011-03-18 13:44 ]


Posted by Bonovox

On 2011-03-18 02:27:04, laffen wrote:
Xperia Mini vs Xperia X10 vs Xperia Arc Qualcomm Adreno Neocore benchmark results.

YouTube


Neocore results
X10: 21.4 fps
Arc: 57.8 fps
Mini: 37.1 fps

The Arc is faster than the X10, but it does not feel three times faster. So these numbers are lying.

I also run the Quadrant benchmark and got similar results there:
Xperia Arc: 1612
Xperia X10: 511

Quadrant results

[ This Message was edited by: laffen on 2011-03-18 01:31 ]



@laffen the x10 Mini is faster than the x10??

Posted by roanmy

On 2011-03-18 13:19:59, laffen wrote:
Arc SAR value: 0.66 W/kg

Thanks! Glad SE's SAR-values are on their way down, lol.

Posted by Bonovox
@laffen what is the call volume like on the Arc compared to x10?? As we all know the x10 was a little quiet in terms of call volume. I just noticed on GSM Arena that all the new Xperia range has the highest daily voting out of all phones on the website
[ This Message was edited by: Bonovox on 2011-03-18 14:18 ]


Posted by unknown_x


@laffen the x10 Mini is faster than the x10??


X10 mini=240 x 320 pixels

X10=480x854 pixels

That is 5.3 times more pixels to move, the iPhone 3gs get's higher scores than the iPhone 4 too.

Posted by Bonovox
Oh yes I see now.

Posted by dibdin
laffen,

How does the Arc feel in the hand?

Is that reality display as good as it looks?




Posted by PE4ce

On 2011-03-18 13:19:59, laffen wrote:
Arc SAR value: 0.66 W/kg

is it for the head or the body?
where did you get it from ? I didn't find it in SE site

Posted by roanmy
^He did an unboxing vid, there should be phamplet there with SAR information.

Posted by Bonovox
Carphonewarehouse is showing these as sim free prices



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