Posted by mustafabay
On 2010-12-26 21:39:26, tyko wrote:
Im not saying its true but isn't it rather big to be a regular front facing cam?
You do have a point there.
On another point I'd think another fab five like last year would hold us for H1, plus the PSPhone of course.
Posted by Lollylost100
On 2010-12-26 21:20:14, back2you wrote:
On 2010-12-26 21:10:40, TmZ wrote:
bullshit
use front camera for autofocus
more information
Posted by back2you
On 2010-12-26 21:58:04, Lollylost100 wrote:
On 2010-12-26 21:20:14, back2you wrote:
On 2010-12-26 21:10:40, TmZ wrote:
bullshit
use front camera for autofocus
more information
Conclusion individual
i dont know how pico-projector patent work but front camera is big you see that ?
Posted by back2you
more pictures
android 2.3
[ This Message was edited by: back2you on 2010-12-26 21:53 ]
Posted by hihihans
Count me in for one of those.
Now back to you
Posted by zub
worst leaked pics evar! what the hell? are we looking at some new rumoured USB cable here?!
[ This Message was edited by: zub on 2010-12-27 01:14 ]
Posted by SE-Naz
Zub...
Exactly what I was thinking
Posted by Shino03
Seems like some guys here are so disappointed of the new line-up but I just like to say that I'm totally looking forward to these new phones.
will probably not have the best flagship for the first half of 2011 but it's just the flagship..In the brighter side, their mid-range phones are looking good.
Anyway, will
announce something at CES? I know this has been answered but those are just speculations right..?
I just hope
will announce something at the very beginning of 2011 as I'll buy a new phone on April..
Posted by huiyi
Posted by goldenface
Hey, thanks for posting. It looks like a very nice device.
I agree that the front facing camera does look larger than normal. Could this possibly be to improve Video Call quality?
[ This Message was edited by: goldenface on 2010-12-27 04:39 ]
Posted by zub
that a mighty big mouse..... or are you just pleased to see me
is that anzu?
Posted by wiraperkasa
On 2010-12-27 06:17:47, zub wrote:
that a mighty big mouse..... or are you just pleased to see me
is that anzu?
hallon i suppose.vivaz successor they say..
Posted by ^^HAMID^^
what's the screen size do u think?
i wish it was 3.7 not more...
[ This Message was edited by: ^^HAMID^^ on 2010-12-27 06:39 ]
Posted by goldenface
Looks around 3.5" to me. Can we assume the camera to be 8.0MP AF? The area above the screen looks a bit busy. There seems to be more there than just your normal front facing camera, ambient light sensor and proximity sensor.
[ This Message was edited by: goldenface on 2010-12-27 07:11 ]
Posted by bart
Its always the same ugly design and color. All phones look more and more the same.
SE should really learn to look back at its history. If they don't want to boost sales by using up to date chips, then they should focus on design. Give us some nice two-tone colored phones. Like the T68, T610, ... but make it attractive, not just the front black and the back in a color that doesn't come forward untill you turn the phone.
Posted by smclion102
Hallon Looks Pretty Huge and Thick
so it sud be under Mid-End range.
some blogs suggets Hallon to have 8MP
and Anzu should be 12mp[and these pics taken by anzu cam]
According to Engadget "Hallon," but honestly we're more interested in that huge camera module on the front. HD video chat, perhaps?
So are We looking at a HD FRONT CAM???
More Image's :Source|Picasa
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For now, the model code name corresponding to each terminal,
Anzu：LT15i, LT15a, SO-01C
Hallon: MT15i, MT15a
Zeus：R800i, R800a
[ This Message was edited by: smclion102 on 2010-12-27 07:27 ]
Posted by wiraperkasa
i like the design..at least it has originality
Posted by avmaxfan
I know its still a prototype... BUT
The camera is just not impressive.
Go ahead and download the full size images from picassa to know what I mean. More or less the same quality as X10. And nowhere near N8 to be honest. Hope things improve.
As i mentioned earlier, I like the way Hallon looks.
[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2010-12-27 07:22 ]
Posted by argiriano
On 2010-12-27 08:19:09, avmaxfan wrote:
As i mentioned earlier, I like the way Hallon looks.
I like it too... it`s visibly smaller than X10, but it looks a bit wider then Vivaz, and no thicker than his predecessor like some suggest. I think it will be sexiest and coolest phone of the
range in early 2011. I like my Vivaz more then my X10 for everyday use now, and Android 2.3 replacement of it with a little bigger screen and strong camera will be great for me.
oh, and I don`t care for Pico-projector because for me it`s just cool but not so usefull gadget to show around... but I have to admit this front-facing camera is way bigger then normal.
Posted by back2you
mybe pico-projector special for SonyEricsson
big front camera with autofocus
[ This Message was edited by: back2you on 2010-12-27 10:33 ]
Posted by Lollylost100
On 2010-12-27 11:30:07, back2you wrote:
mybe pico-projector special for SonyEricsson
big front camera with autofocus
[ This Message was edited by: back2you on 2010-12-27 10:33 ]
[ This Message was edited by: Lollylost100 on 2010-12-27 10:38 ]
Posted by back2you
@Lollylost100
you see that big front camera
my source confirm pico-projector Coming but i dont know wich phone
1- pico-projector
or
2- hd video chat
----
can you tell me why front camera is bigger than all other phones ?
[ This Message was edited by: back2you on 2010-12-27 10:59 ]
Posted by Lollylost100
Again, just shows how little you, and your source, know.
It's a chat cam, nothing more.
Posted by avmaxfan
On 2010-12-27 11:57:14, back2you wrote:
@Lollylost100
you see that big front camera
my source confirm pico-projector Coming but i dont know wich phone
1- pico-projector
or
2- hd video chat
----
can you tell me why front camera is bigger than all other phones ?
[ This Message was edited by: back2you on 2010-12-27 10:59 ]
So that people actually CAN use video chat ?????
Usually front cameras aren't all that clear and its not a great experience. Call it HD or whatever.
And there is nothing on that phone that looks like a "projector".
[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2010-12-27 11:18 ]
Posted by Pjuklarven
Pico-projector = The most useless feautre ever..
What i want is responsive MT
Fast and snappy OS, preferably with gpu acceleration
And high resolution display panel
Stuff like a projector just makes the phone more expensive
And put the Usb-port at the bottom, were it belongs.
[ This Message was edited by: Pjuklarven on 2010-12-27 11:51 ]
Posted by Ricky D
Don't newer versions of android require 4 buttons? I thought SE (and other manufactuters) were all usong 4 buttons for the newer.android versions. Does this mean this is a very old proto? or maybe just not designed for 2.3+ ?
Posted by Lollylost100
Retail devices will also have 3 buttons. They are missing out the search button, not a big loss
.[ This Message was edited by: Lollylost100 on 2010-12-27 11:55 ]
Posted by Ricky D
Absolutely no loss. I thought it may be part of the OS requirement, but I prefer fewer buttons and more on-screen. It's one thing that put me off other proto spyshots that have been leaked recently. Good to know the retail units will have 3 buttons.
Posted by nikos_se
does anybody know anything about the thickness of hallon??will it be slimmer than vivaz??i hope so
Posted by argiriano
On 2010-12-26 20:56:59, back2you wrote:
This metal thing between earphone and camera looks like casing for small diod-light to me.
Posted by Lollylost100
Mango - X10 mini pro successor
Smultron - X10 mini successor
Posted by sunrise_
On 2010-12-27 15:29:43, Lollylost100 wrote:
Mango - X10 mini pro successor
Smultron - X10 mini successor
XPERIA Duo?
Posted by smclion102
On 2010-12-27 12:32:41, Pjuklarven wrote:
Pico-projector = The most useless feautre ever..
What i want is responsive MT
Fast and snappy OS, preferably with gpu acceleration
And high resolution display panel
Stuff like a projector just makes the phone more expensive
And put the Usb-port at the bottom, were it belongs.
[ This Message was edited by: Pjuklarven on 2010-12-27 11:51 ]
+1
We want kickass Xperia phone not Pico-proj phone.Nobody is gona use this technology everyday.
Give us some dual core phones + better Cam phones + Walkman Phones + better timescape + mediascape + Faster updates.
Sud experiment all these new tech pico-proj,3D phone,Pureness-2 phones only if they get Huge Profits + get big back to 3rd place,gain lot of market share.its BS if they do all these lame stuff.
keep wasting there resource in all these crappy short term projects 
.
its better if they use these resource in getting better,faster OS updates,better features.
Posted by badassmam
Perhaps the pico-projector will project directly into your eye.
Posted by Lollylost100
I wasnt looking for a laugh tonight, but this is top-notch comedy
.[ This Message was edited by: Lollylost100 on 2010-12-27 22:19 ]
Posted by anders260
[QUOTE=unknown13x;10125507]I told you guys so that there are more devices other than Anzu and Zeus for Q1
MWC? hehehehe what if it comes sooner than that? for the shape, if you want to know how it looks on the side and the back, think about one of the symbian running phones at the moment This is a replacement of it.
Yes, 2.3 will be on board on all of them, so we don't have to worry about that.[/QUOTE]
From unknown13x from XDA
Posted by c96sthl
On 2010-12-27 12:17:15, avmaxfan wrote:
On 2010-12-27 11:57:14, back2you wrote:
@Lollylost100
you see that big front camera
my source confirm pico-projector Coming but i dont know wich phone
1- pico-projector
or
2- hd video chat
----
can you tell me why front camera is bigger than all other phones ?
[ This Message was edited by: back2you on 2010-12-27 10:59 ]
So that people actually CAN use video chat ?????
Usually front cameras aren't all that clear and its not a great experience. Call it HD or whatever.
And there is nothing on that phone that looks like a "projector".
[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2010-12-27 11:18 ]
not all network can handle even current video call load and you are talking HD video chat.
unless this is some LTE or WiMAX capable or SE trying to do it a way similar to iPHONE? you can get HD chat only via WIFI? overall...I see no point...I used Video Call a few times and found it not that useful. Well personal preference...but if SE love a bigger camera for front facing to assist user for self protrait....I have no objection
although that too sound silly.
Posted by winnerzero
is it just me or do all three new phones (ps phone, anzu and hallon) look very similar to the x10? i love my x10 but i also want it to be unique and distinguished from the rest of the crowd. If all these new phones look pretty much the same, noone can tell them apart...just my opinion.
i'm looking forward to upgrading from the x10, hopefully SE has learnt their lesson n will implement gingerbread properly with UXP and continue to update their phones. If i was to buy a phone right now in the current market, i'd still be looking at the x10...
Posted by zub
lol really? an x10? be serious, well have fun with your single touch screen.....
as to they all look the same, there's not much else manufacturers can do tbh. the front of most any phone today will look similar to any other phone, its all this touch screen phase, what else can you put at the front besides a large black screen?
oh also i dont think there is any other phone out with physical gaming controls, so if you want unique looks, i guess the psphone is down your alley.
Posted by MrCash
SE viva ? wats that ?
Posted by zub
maybe he meant vivaz?
Posted by Lollylost100
I believe he meant Vivaz successor.
Posted by MrCash
ya maybe
And what about the handsets that going to " pop up " soon ?
thought its only 4 devices for 1st half
..
Posted by Lollylost100
On 2010-12-26 18:31:02, Lollylost100 wrote:
On 2010-12-26 18:17:05, back2you wrote:
4 android phones at first half of 2011
Incorrect.
Posted by MrCash
So its more than 4 ..
thats good
..
Posted by smclion102
Maybe VIVA is name for Android and VIVAZ for symbian
Posted by tranced
This phone reminds me of the W900 when closed. Its curves at the top and bottom. If the FRONT CAMERA would be in the left, that'd be its successor.
On 2010-12-27 11:30:07, back2you wrote:
mybe pico-projector special for SonyEricsson
big front camera with autofocus
[ This Message was edited by: back2you on 2010-12-27 10:33 ]
Posted by io_bg
Is it just me or those X10-like keys don't blend very well with Hallon's design... I think the original Vivaz's keys look better.
Posted by badassmam
So Vivaz is being upgraded from Entertainment Unlimited to Xperia, I take it that Entertainment Unlimited is no more. Wasn't there some new naming scheme or branding for this year? So far we know that there is an Android Walkman and these Xperia but anything else that fits into a new category?
I was joking Mr Lollylost100.
Posted by jack00
On 2010-12-27 08:14:30, bart wrote:
Its always the same ugly design and color. All phones look more and more the same.
SE should really learn to look back at its history. If they don't want to boost sales by using up to date chips, then they should focus on design. Give us some nice two-tone colored phones. Like the T68, T610, ... but make it attractive, not just the front black and the back in a color that doesn't come forward untill you turn the phone.
good point
its good to have a consistent design language, but at some point you need to develop it further, but se didn't move from the spot since ... well you see it ... the W900. some HTC phones feel like expensive watches, se still has its fisher price look and feel.