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The All New Sony Ericsson Portfolio for 2011


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Posted by io_bg
On 2011-12-21 22:24:30, thatsweird wrote:
What do you think about this picture?

Too much colour noise even at ISO 50, smudging at the bottom left corner and not enough detail...


Posted by Legen
Wow. The internet is really liking the leaked photos from the LT28at(the opinion on rumoured specs is kinda 50:50). Pretty much every tech site has written about it
[ This Message was edited by: Legen on 2011-12-22 10:25 ]


Posted by WhiteEye

On 2011-12-18 10:41:19, sunrise_ wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong. What we got:

Sony Ericsson LT28at/LT28i/Aoba
1,5GHz dual-core, 4.55″, 720x1280px, 13mpx with Full HD

Sony Ericsson LT26i/Nozomi
1,5GHz dual-core, 4.3″, 720x1280px, 12mpx(?) with Full HD

Sony Ericsson LT22i/Nypon
1GHz dual-core, 4″, 540x960px, 8mpx Exmor R

Sony Ericsson MT27i/Pepper
1GHz dual-core, 3.7″, 480x854px, 5mpx

Sony Ericsson ST25i
Xperia mini successor, 480x854px

Sony Ericsson ST21i/Tapioca
800MHz, 3.2″, 320x480px, 3.2mpx



and for Japanese market:
Xperia Hikari. SO-03D for NTT DocoMo.
Xperia Hayate. IS12S for au KDDI.

source

Posted by thatsweird

On 2011-12-21 23:06:31, io_bg wrote:
On 2011-12-21 22:24:30, thatsweird wrote:
What do you think about this picture?

Too much colour noise even at ISO 50, smudging at the bottom left corner and not enough detail...


True - maybe that's one of the reasons why Sony will not release nozomi? At least not in the form of the prototypes we saw so far...
[ This Message was edited by: thatsweird on 2011-12-22 14:32 ]


Posted by motvikt

On 2011-12-22 15:30:57, thatsweird wrote:

On 2011-12-21 23:06:31, io_bg wrote:
On 2011-12-21 22:24:30, thatsweird wrote:
What do you think about this picture?

Too much colour noise even at ISO 50, smudging at the bottom left corner and not enough detail...


True - maybe that's one of the reasons why Sony will not release nozomi? At least not in the form of the prototypes we saw so far...
[ This Message was edited by: thatsweird on 2011-12-22 14:32 ]



Not release nozomi? Where did you get that from?

Posted by Karun
Pure speculation? I like the design but I hope it comes with the newer breed of processors.

Posted by thatsweird
A bit more than speculation. But let us see in January

Posted by randomuser
Unknown13x posted this on XDA. What might this mean ???

"Hmmm...Nozomi apparently won't be the flagship anymore. It will have the highest specs, but all the "new" techs will be on Nyphon instead. Yes, ST-Ericsson will be used on mid-end devices. Also, don't expect much for design. I just had a facepalm moment when I saw Kumquat, Nozomi, and Nyphon together LOL Keep your eyes on Nyphon, as I believe this will be the new bestseller for Sony. We'll also be seeing new "Smart" accessories that will support the new tech too. It'll make LiveDock look like a paperweight LOL"

[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2011-12-23 04:37 ]


Posted by moogoo
very interesting. can't waittttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt.. come on CES!

Posted by argiriano
And what does that "all new tech" means? We knew about White Magic display but is there any other new stuff...?
Does that mean Nypon will have NFC and LTE capabilities, or newest ST-Ericsson SOC...? I already start dreaming...

Posted by randomuser
I doubt it will have a white magic display to be frank. Sony is not producing them yet.

Posted by smclion102
Whats Kumquat ???? Do we know anything about it??

Wht New TECH Sounds interesting

Posted by randomuser

On 2011-12-23 07:05:16, smclion102 wrote:
Whats Kumquat ???? Do we know anything about it??

Wht New TECH Sounds interesting


Kumquat is Xperia Mini successor. ST25i.
1 ghz dual core
5mp 720p vid
3.5 inch screen

Posted by razec

On 2011-12-23 06:50:06, argiriano wrote:
Does that mean Nypon will have NFC and LTE capabilities, or newest ST-Ericsson SOC...? I already start dreaming...


Apparently that's not the way Sony sees things as "New tech" they always bring something new in the market and by that we can expect features that others have/will not touched yet

I want to see an MXE-60 successor this time from Sony something with LED videolight and AF assist to complete the package, as really disappointed me. afterall they've given the NEX series an external flash accessory. the current trend on slim phones had the xenon flash feature forgotten which is a disappointment as no back illuminated sensor can ever replace a xenon flash especially in lowlight at medium to close distance or pitch black background composition.
[ This Message was edited by: razec on 2011-12-23 07:02 ]


Posted by moogoo
wasn't there a post awhile back that had one of the models rumored to have a white magic display? that would be awesome if true!

i'm really excited for CES... 2 more weeks to go! anybody know if there will be a live stream of the sony presentation? and if so, where ?

Posted by randomuser
Yes there will be a livestream here

http://www.ustream.tv/sonyelectronics

Posted by moogoo
THANKS!

Posted by argiriano

On 2011-12-23 06:52:39, randomuser wrote:
I doubt it will have a white magic display to be frank. Sony is not producing them yet.

There is previous rumor about it on Xperia Blog, that`s why I suggest it... but if there isn`t WhiteMagic we`ll be dissapointed with just "4-display tech" which Sony think it`s future.

Posted by randomuser

On 2011-12-23 10:25:51, argiriano wrote:

On 2011-12-23 06:52:39, randomuser wrote:
I doubt it will have a white magic display to be frank. Sony is not producing them yet.

There is previous rumor about it on Xperia Blog, that`s why I suggest it... but if there isn`t WhiteMagic we`ll be dissapointed with just "4-display tech" which Sony think it`s future.


These devices were all developed by and thus I think they won't have any "NEW" SONY tech. Only the Sony developed phones will have whatever tech Sony wants to put in them IMO. Nozomi Nyphon must have been under development since at least 6 months now.

Posted by argiriano

On 2011-12-23 10:34:23, randomuser wrote:

These devices were all developed by and thus I think they won't have any "NEW" SONY tech. Only the Sony developed phones will have whatever tech Sony wants to put in them IMO. Nozomi Nyphon must have been under development since at least 6 months now.

Four-screen technology is Sony development for last 4 - 5 years, and it mean TVs, PCs, Tablets and Phones, so next Xperia phones will be just one part of this big project futuring developments like Qriocity (Music and Video Unlimited) and maybe Google TV. It is expected to be presented at CES so even we`ll see this tech at CES working on device, or we will not seeing it there.

Posted by Legen
The elephant in the room time. When will they be released? 6 months after being shown? Late release has been a major disadvantage with sonyericsson

Posted by NightBlade

On 2011-12-23 11:43:00, Legen wrote:
The elephant in the room time. When will they be released? 6 months after being shown? Late release has been a major disadvantage with sonyericsson

Most SE phones are released within 3 months nowadays.

Posted by Detox

On 2011-12-23 05:35:50, randomuser wrote:
Keep your eyes on Nyphon, as I believe this will be the new bestseller for Sony.
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2011-12-23 04:37 ]


For Sony because Nyp(h)on will be branded (or even developed?) as Sony or only because Sony bought out Ericsson from the partnership?
[ This Message was edited by: Detox on 2011-12-23 11:51 ]


Posted by randomuser
Unknown13x confirmed WhiteMagic screen for the Nyphon on XDA.

Posted by randomuser
Well not only under the name of Sony but also under Sony's payroll. So they would be SONY employees and not SE as SE is 100% owned by Sony then. Including the staff.

Posted by moogoo
yea! whitemagic screen.... that'll be awesome


Posted by Karun
Can anyone reconfirm the specs of nypon?

Posted by DACHA

On 2011-12-23 17:37:02, Karun wrote:
Can anyone reconfirm the specs of nypon?



Those are the rumored specs.
By the way this is the pregnant phone.

http://www.phonearena.com/new[....]surface-the-Sony-Nypon_id24682


Posted by motvikt

On 2011-12-23 17:50:40, DACHA wrote:

On 2011-12-23 17:37:02, Karun wrote:
Can anyone reconfirm the specs of nypon?



Those are the rumored specs.
By the way this is the pregnant phone.

http://www.phonearena.com/new[....]surface-the-Sony-Nypon_id24682



No that was just a concept. The real nyphon is believed to be a smaller version of nozomi and in a metal casing. There was a picture somewhere in this tread

Posted by Karun
Yeah. A metal casing. Looks just like the Nozomi, with the LED strip nd all. I just hope they plonk a more powerful processor

Posted by randomuser

On 2011-12-23 18:49:27, aurelius wrote:

On 2011-12-23 15:05:35, randomuser wrote:
Well not only under the name of Sony but also under Sony's payroll. So they would be SONY employees and not SE as SE is 100% owned by Sony then. Including the staff.


That's not my point, my point is that it will be the same developers doing the job, under another brand name.


Agree but it might be only temporary. I remember Kazuo Hirai also mentioning it during the Sony Q3 earnings conference. He said that in the near future will continue to largely be unchanged and just work more closely with Sony. But with time they will absorb SE fully into Sony when they have the resources to do it.
Right now Sony cannot afford to invest in a brand new R&D facility for its mobile division.


@RickyD

Since you mentioned SONY is working on a 21mp handset, is it being developed in the SE R&D lab or in Sony R&D labs somewhere
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2011-12-24 04:35 ]


Posted by argiriano
I don`t believe in that 21mpxl device at all, or don`t want to believe it`s something Sony even consider.
There`s no sense... pixels count that much without the proper optics will be the bigest shit Sony will lunch ever. After decade of mobile cameras the customers already know what is important in mobile imaging. Advanced users know that things like optics and size of the chip is important, and the regular customers doesn`t need more than 8mpxl cause even they realised that mobile camera can`t replace the proper cameras, even though they don`t understand why.
It will be suiside if Sony make this 21mpxl device that can`t compeat with 8mpxl iPhone 4S superior optics and postprocessing or even 2 y/o Nokia N8 and this is what will going to happen because:
1. Sony have to make this chip smaller which is one of the biggest compromises in mobile imagging
2. Make device slimmer 'cause this is the current trend which leaves no room for optics
3. Make device without proper flash light because of the battery and slimer profile of the device
4. Have to make their agressive postprocessing and compression even more agressive which will lead to even worse results
5. 21mpxl is professional size of pixel count and it will be compared to DSLR or Four-Thirds devices with it`s lunch but with so many compromises we know what the results will be, so Sony doesn`t need marketing tricks like this, cause it`s efect will be negative.

Well, this is just my oppinion of course and the future will tell what the truth is but I don`t want to think that Sony will want to lose their name in mobile imaging completely with move like this.


Posted by Ricky D

On 2011-12-24 05:11:04, randomuser wrote:

@RickyD

Since you mentioned SONY is working on a 21mp handset, is it being developed in the SE R&D lab or in Sony R&D labs somewhere
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2011-12-24 04:35 ]



He's an employee of SE, but made a point of it being a Sony device. Make of that what you will.

I doubt he's blowing smoke but the device could just be a wishful thinking/pie in the sky proto.


New thread will be here before the New Year. Christmas is pretty busy so haven't had a moment to set it all up yet.
[ This Message was edited by: Ricky D on 2011-12-24 10:14 ]


Posted by AkuKL
Anyway, want to wish Merry Christmas to all of you guys here before this thread become a history.

Posted by rikken
Merry Christmas
Hope for a new exiting thread in the year to come
[ This Message was edited by: rikken on 2011-12-24 15:11 ]


Posted by lolstebbo

On 2011-12-24 09:33:41, argiriano wrote:
I don`t believe in that 21mpxl device at all, or don`t want to believe it`s something Sony even consider.
There`s no sense... pixels count that much without the proper optics will be the bigest shit Sony will lunch ever. After decade of mobile cameras the customers already know what is important in mobile imaging. Advanced users know that things like optics and size of the chip is important, and the regular customers doesn`t need more than 8mpxl cause even they realised that mobile camera can`t replace the proper cameras, even though they don`t understand why.
It will be suiside if Sony make this 21mpxl device that can`t compeat with 8mpxl iPhone 4S superior optics and postprocessing


People don't need more than 5MP, actually.

Also, The iPhone 4S doesn't have superior optics. It's the same optics that the 8MP 2011 Xperia phones use. Because it's the same camera module (which consists of a single package with both the sensor and the optics).

Posted by marcink
But apple's photos look miles better. SE has not been progressing in terms of picture quality since k750i. Hope Sony won't handicap it now and use it's potential to make its mobiles excell in camera dept. now they are behind samsung, Nokia and apple!

Posted by HxH
New tech?

can we expect ps vita in smaller shape with call functionality? probably difference chipset though.


Nokia Apple Samsung and somehow HTC probably included into list now, I really hope SONY will make a comeback to it deserve position very soon.

Posted by argiriano

On 2011-12-24 19:02:10, lolstebbo wrote:

Also, The iPhone 4S doesn't have superior optics. It's the same optics that the 8MP 2011 Xperia phones use. Because it's the same camera module (which consists of a single package with both the sensor and the optics).

Actually it`s not the same as Apple developed Exmor-R optics and it futures 5 lenses, not 4 as the original. Apple's IR-filter also makes the diference but we don`t talk about the software part, even though it`s one of the best examples how Apple can take something and make it better which is bad for Sony in this case.

Anyway we all expecting next Sony devices you know.

Marry Christmas everyone! God bless you!

Posted by AkuKL
I just hope that we can get camera quality on par with something like Sony TX10 (without optical zoom, of course) so that we can all be happy. I can tolerate the price if the picture/video quality is good and battery life is also good.

Posted by goldenface
Merry Christmas to those that celebrate it.

I'm waiting to hear back from Ricky to see when he wants to begin 2012 rumours. I'll keep you posted.

Posted by AkuKL

On 2011-12-25 14:53:40, goldenface wrote:
Merry Christmas to those that celebrate it.

I'm waiting to hear back from Ricky to see when he wants to begin 2012 rumours. I'll keep you posted.


Same here. I'm waiting for 2012 Rumours as well.

Posted by smclion102
I Dont wish for a Best Dual Core/ Quad Core I only wish for a Kickass Camera phones ,Kickass Walkman Phones and Xperia Phones..
Cant Wait for CES

Posted by -16-
I think Sony is one of the few companys that can handle the business similar to Apple. They don't need the best processor or biggest screen to compete. They have nice cameras, they have the Walkman brand and they have the most beautiful UI in the Android world. AND they have the best phone designers. So I think with good materials for the phone and the right marketing even a device with little outdated specs could be a game breaker. Just do it...

Posted by shaoran
come on bring us our dream come true...Satio Android with exmor R new generation, with all new tech from SONY, white screen magic, etc...that will kick all of the competitor...

Posted by marcink
It won't happen. Sony is no apple (these days). They need premium H/W to compete

Posted by djin
merry christmas to all ! looking forward to all new sony/ portfolio 2012 ...

Posted by AkuKL

On 2011-12-25 17:46:58, -16- wrote:
I think Sony is one of the few companys that can handle the business similar to Apple. They don't need the best processor or biggest screen to compete. They have nice cameras, they have the Walkman brand and they have the most beautiful UI in the Android world. AND they have the best phone designers. So I think with good materials for the phone and the right marketing even a device with little outdated specs could be a game breaker. Just do it...

For Sony, last time maybe. But certainly not today.

Posted by ^^HAMID^^
Sony and Samsung have decided to part ways on their seven-year-old LCD venture. Possibly due to Sony's recent struggles in the increasingly competitive world of TV division, Samsung will buy up its 50 percent share for around $939 million. The Japanese company has agreed to a new strategic agreement to source Sammy's LCDs in the future and, according to Sony, will continue "cooperative engineering efforts focused on LCD panel technology." Its full explanation follows after the break.

Posted by razec
Sony needs to introduce new things that are not yet exploited in the market, or give their phones the strength of their other lines, simply put.. they need distinction from the overrated multicore SoC competition. A dual core will be as fluid as a quad core with proper programmers just as how redundant it is to have a camera resolution beyond 12 megapixels. I honestly think Sony needs to start tolling their CCDs on their phones as the CMOS is not really that good for smaller sensors, of course in APS~ size they had replaced CCDs for a while now but in cameras/camera phones i can still find some CCD cameras beating the likes of Sony digicams armed with Exmor CMOS. take for example a Canon A800 vs a Sony WX10 where the former wipes the floor on raw image quality even without using their burst-then-combine whatever technology to produce a less noise output.


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