Posted by smclion102
On 2011-12-12 20:41:49, rog wrote:
On 2011-12-12 15:57:11, smclion102 wrote:
Picture of Sony Ericsson’s new Gingerbread UXP
Good thing that screenshot only shows the most boring part of the new UI 
Leak some Pics
have to wait till CES i guess
Posted by MNX1024
What do you guys think of the following article here:
http://www.droiddog.com/andro[....]4g-leaks-in-training-document/
Posted by lolstebbo
On 2011-12-13 07:04:23, MNX1024 wrote:
What do you guys think of the following article here:
http://www.droiddog.com/andro[....]4g-leaks-in-training-document/
Hopefully it's, like, an LTE version of an Xperia Play 2.
Posted by Ricky D
That article says that it shouldn't be mistaken for AT&T's Play 4G, but surely it wouldn't much different? Just a different radio chipset for Verizon's network. Am I wrong?
@FMW300i You're right! I'm a little red faced now as I never noticed on my Arc that it didn't say Sony Ericsson on the back. This leaked handset does look weird though without any text down the middle.
Posted by aurelius
On 2011-12-13 00:58:21, nikos_se wrote:
Maybe your friend was lying to you???Because every leaked cpu test(+SOURCES) suggests that LT26i will be coming with dual-core scorpion at 1.5ghz.++Even if they were using st-ericsson based cpus,anything below u9540 would be less capable than exynos 4210 found on galaxy s2
Why would my best friend (I'm 37, he's 36) lie to me? I don't know about you and your friends but we don't lie to each other. There's so many versions of each phone floating around and many of them are test/pre-production units only. I was only referring to what he said.
The ST-E U8500 running 2x1GHz outperformed Qualcomm's 2x1,2GHz in 80% of the tests so it's not a bad platform. Also, ST-E platform will probably be used in midrange phones not high-end, and it's MUCH cheaper than qualcomms.
And btw, u can run U8500 in 1,5 if you want to.
Posted by admad
On 2011-12-13 00:57:17, lolstebbo wrote:
On 2011-12-13 00:21:51, disiz wrote:
Non-removable battery, no xenon flash, microSim, seem pretty height... Again and again disappointed about SE... We'll be in 2012, come on SE...
Here's the question I have: What the hell is the fuss about xenon flashes? Everything in the foreground gets washed out or completely flattened while everything in the background becomes too dark due to absolute underexposure, it kills battery life like crazy, and they're generally placed too close to the lens thus making red-eye removal software necessary (as if SE's default software processing algorithms weren't extreme enough).
If people weren't so caught up about megapixels and focused on other sensor attributes (such as noise and dynamic range), then it becomes much more probable that we could get a low-resolution, high-sensitivity sensor effective enough to negate the need for a flash at all (and that manufacturers could actually market such a sensor as a superior alternative to a stupid 8/12/16MP sensor that no one needs).
Are You serious? Try going to a pub for example, and take a good pic there, it's impossible whether it's SUPER HIPER ULTRA Exmor sensor, it may have 30 MPx, it still will need some exposure time to take the pic, in which time the hand will shake this thing like crazy. At best backlit sensor in low light areas can do 1/30s IMO. Xenon flash gives us like 1/250s and even more. With xenon I can take as many pics I wish and I'm sure they will come out fine. With low power LED I have to steady myself, and hope that photo will come out only a little blurry. Xenon is a must. It's funny how I may have the best phone with best camera, but still take worse pics than good old k800i...
Posted by nikos_se
Trust me i want it to happen more than you do.I think going with ST-ericsson would make
more competitive with other brands,than going with qualcomm.The thing is,that every leaked information we have about Nozomi indicates that it will be using dual-core scorpion.So,i kind of doubt that will release a similar device with a different processor.If you are talking about Nypon here,then ok.!!!But Nozomi will with a 90% certainty be using a dual-core scorpion cpu.I dont mean to doubt you,i just keep it realistic.
Posted by motvikt
On 2011-12-13 09:09:12, aurelius wrote:
On 2011-12-13 00:58:21, nikos_se wrote:
Maybe your friend was lying to you???Because every leaked cpu test(+SOURCES) suggests that LT26i will be coming with dual-core scorpion at 1.5ghz.++Even if they were using st-ericsson based cpus,anything below u9540 would be less capable than exynos 4210 found on galaxy s2
Why would my best friend (I'm 37, he's 36) lie to me? I don't know about you and your friends but we don't lie to each other. There's so many versions of each phone floating around and many of them are test/pre-production units only. I was only referring to what he said.
The ST-E U8500 running 2x1GHz outperformed Qualcomm's 2x1,2GHz in 80% of the tests so it's not a bad platform. Also, ST-E platform will probably be used in midrange phones not high-end, and it's MUCH cheaper than qualcomms.
And btw, u can run U8500 in 1,5 if you want to.
St-ericsson is awesome and is the only platform right now that can compete with samsung
Posted by adsada
On 2011-12-13 10:46:21, admad wrote:
On 2011-12-13 00:57:17, lolstebbo wrote:
On 2011-12-13 00:21:51, disiz wrote:
Non-removable battery, no xenon flash, microSim, seem pretty height... Again and again disappointed about SE... We'll be in 2012, come on SE...
Here's the question I have: What the hell is the fuss about xenon flashes? Everything in the foreground gets washed out or completely flattened while everything in the background becomes too dark due to absolute underexposure, it kills battery life like crazy, and they're generally placed too close to the lens thus making red-eye removal software necessary (as if SE's default software processing algorithms weren't extreme enough).
If people weren't so caught up about megapixels and focused on other sensor attributes (such as noise and dynamic range), then it becomes much more probable that we could get a low-resolution, high-sensitivity sensor effective enough to negate the need for a flash at all (and that manufacturers could actually market such a sensor as a superior alternative to a stupid 8/12/16MP sensor that no one needs).
Are You serious? Try going to a pub for example, and take a good pic there, it's impossible whether it's SUPER HIPER ULTRA Exmor sensor, it may have 30 MPx, it still will need some exposure time to take the pic, in which time the hand will shake this thing like crazy. At best backlit sensor in low light areas can do 1/30s IMO. Xenon flash gives us like 1/250s and even more. With xenon I can take as many pics I wish and I'm sure they will come out fine. With low power LED I have to steady myself, and hope that photo will come out only a little blurry. Xenon is a must. It's funny how I may have the best phone with best camera, but still take worse pics than good old k800i...
Just going to post my thought again
Being the previous owner of the K850i, I always said that once you've gone xenon you can never go back. Unfortunately I never had a choice in this matter as no android phone on the market came with this awesome feature. However after buying the xperia arc, I do manage just fine without it and although there are times when I would like to use it, its not so missed. What annoyed me most with the cyber-shot phone was the flash burn which ridiculously burnt out peoples faces. Also although most shots came out good, using the flash really didn't give a good idea of what was actually was seen by your eye when taking the photo and the moment you wanted to capture. With the arc, I find that the addition of Exmor-r really does help to bring more light to photos in the dark and photos I take actually look really good and capture the atmosphere of the moment very well. I have taken many photos in clubs and although you need a more steady hand (which admittedly can be hard while intoxicated) photos come out well. Photos of peoples faces with the LED flash light up the right amount without causing burn or making the light look unnatural. Also you can also see what's going on in the background (other people the lights etc.) whereas xenon would make the background completely black. Filming also works very well while the LED flash is on, not becoming blurry at all and again shows the atmosphere of the club well. What some might say sounds like a gimmick I believe works really well to help you capture a good night time photo without having to use a tripod, and captures a more realistic picture of what the moment actually was like.
Posted by adsada
Some press pictures of the new Xperia Play colour...
I think I am actually in love with this orange colour, and am tempted to go out and buy a Play on this alone.
via XperiaBlog
[ This Message was edited by: adsada on 2011-12-13 10:33 ]
Posted by aurelius
On 2011-12-13 10:51:31, nikos_se wrote:
Trust me i want it to happen more than you do.I think going with ST-ericsson would make
more competitive with other brands,than going with qualcomm.The thing is,that every leaked information we have about Nozomi indicates that it will be using dual-core scorpion.So,i kind of doubt that will release a similar device with a different processor.If you are talking about Nypon here,then ok.!!!But Nozomi will with a 90% certainty be using a dual-core scorpion cpu.I dont mean to doubt you,i just keep it realistic.
I'm totally with you on that one, BUT, there are other devices in the pipe with ST-E under the hood.
Posted by aamwng
All the rumours are doing my head in!!!
Just want to know if nozomi is the flagship!?!
Anyway, shouldn't we be starting a new thread? All the phones rumoured are in the 2012 portfolio
Posted by disiz
On 2011-12-13 00:57:17, lolstebbo wrote:
Here's the question I have: What the hell is the fuss about xenon flashes? Everything in the foreground gets washed out or completely flattened while everything in the background becomes too dark due to absolute underexposure, it kills battery life like crazy, and they're generally placed too close to the lens thus making red-eye removal software necessary (as if SE's default software processing algorithms weren't extreme enough).
If people weren't so caught up about megapixels and focused on other sensor attributes (such as noise and dynamic range), then it becomes much more probable that we could get a low-resolution, high-sensitivity sensor effective enough to negate the need for a flash at all (and that manufacturers could actually market such a sensor as a superior alternative to a stupid 8/12/16MP sensor that no one needs).
Xenon flash is really great for night photos. Today every phones make good day picts, but inside or by night, the picts are really noisy, then for now we need xenon flash because as you said manufacturers prefers growth MPixels capacity than sensor or lens itself... A friend has a Xperia Arc, and my satio results are much better. For red-eyes you're right that's a problem, but I prefer red eyes with a good focus, than normal eyes and noisy pict Here's the question I have: What the hell is the fuss about xenon flashes? Everything in the foreground gets washed out or completely flattened while everything in the background becomes too dark due to absolute underexposure, it kills battery life like crazy, and they're generally placed too close to the lens thus making red-eye removal software necessary (as if SE's default software processing algorithms weren't extreme enough).
If people weren't so caught up about megapixels and focused on other sensor attributes (such as noise and dynamic range), then it becomes much more probable that we could get a low-resolution, high-sensitivity sensor effective enough to negate the need for a flash at all (and that manufacturers could actually market such a sensor as a superior alternative to a stupid 8/12/16MP sensor that no one needs).
And for dark background, I always apply some settings, because as all automatic mode on digital camera isn't great
That's why we're wainting hard for a Sony mobile with xenon flash, because the Motorola XT720 isn't very good
Yes this Xperia 2 looks good, but waiting so see screensize & resolution
Posted by huiyi
lt22?。。logo。。sony....
Posted by Legen
On 2011-12-13 14:37:55, huiyi wrote:
lt22?。。logo。。sony....
Holy cow!
Posted by Ricky D
Be right back, I have to go change my underwear, I think I just jizzed.
Back: I think then that THIS is the Arc successor rather than that monstrosity were all been looking at for a few months, which, as I stated before, I believe to be Neo's update.
Someone please tell me that this isn't some fake PSed bull crap concept.
[ This Message was edited by: Ricky D on 2011-12-13 14:17 ]
Posted by randomuser
Ricky I hope you were being sarcastic
There is no way anybody could jizz over this Xperia COW
What in god's name is that stupid ugly bugle at the bottom!!!
Posted by Ravager
Hey! That's the Xperia Camel from about a week ago. So it's real then?
[ This Message was edited by: Ravager on 2011-12-13 14:36 ]
Posted by NightBlade
If it's got a xenon flash in it, I'm all in for the bulge.
Posted by pt020
On 2011-12-13 02:45:46, Ricky D wrote:
Has anybody spotted the 3.5mm glory hole on this thing?
Difficult to see but to me it looks like it is here ...
Posted by Ravager
On 2011-12-13 15:36:37, NightBlade wrote:
If it's got a xenon flash in it, I'm all in for the bulge.
So am I!
My only concern is, two completely different design languages ?
We have the LT26i's new brick style design and then the Camel which is very old Sony style, looks a bit like playstation, nothing like the new walkman for example.
[ This Message was edited by: Ravager on 2011-12-13 15:01 ]
Posted by Ricky D
@randomuser
Actually, one thing about the Arc is that when it sits in my hand, in portrait, and I reach down for the menu button, the centre of gravity is just off the top of my index finger so it feels like it will fall. I dropped it the first day I had it because of this. I've since learnt to stretch my fingers wider but it's slightly awkward and most of my friends have dropped my phone in their first instance of holding it. It's like a slippery fish.
It's also not easy to hold in one hand rotate to landscape and use the shutter button to take a photo because of the tiny frame at the bottom and the weight distribution.
This bulge on this supposed new Sony device will go some way to fixing the problems above. I'm a taker for the bulge with or without xenon.
There was no actual jizz, that bit was a joke, just excitement outside the pantal area.
Posted by smclion102
NOZOMI LEAKED
lt22 LEAKED
THIS PHONE YET TO BE LEAKED ???
via
http://www.concept-phones.com[....]-rock-2012-ice-cream-sandwich/
[ This Message was edited by: smclion102 on 2011-12-13 15:18 ]
Posted by argiriano
On 2011-12-13 15:36:37, NightBlade wrote:
If it's got a xenon flash in it, I'm all in for the bulge.
I doubt it! The device is so thin at the top (maybe around 7,5mm) so that bulge is needed for the camera lenses to f it without xenon. But xenon or not, the real question is how the hell someone will take picture in portrait mode when camera lens is covered by his hand..?
It`s the same odd placement with Arc lens at the top edge and the tumbs but now on the bottom side. 
Even though it`s strange I think it will be comfortble to hold, and more stable in hand than RAZR opposite bulge.
Posted by sunrise_
@smclion102
These are 11 days old
"SONY LT22i" is probably just a concept too:
http://www.concept-phones.com[....]elative-xperia-arc-big-bottom/
[ This Message was edited by: sunrise_ on 2011-12-13 15:27 ]
Posted by argiriano
On 2011-12-13 15:41:12, Ravager wrote:
My only concern is, two completely different design languages ?
We have the LT26i's new brick style design and then the Camel which is very old Sony style, looks a bit like playstation, nothing like the new walkman for example.
[ This Message was edited by: Ravager on 2011-12-13 15:01 ]
I agree and may suggest that this is just Sony prototype phone that will never see real life.
I hope I`m wrong, cause it look interesting.
Posted by lolstebbo
On 2011-12-13 10:46:21, admad wrote:
Are You serious? Try going to a pub for example, and take a good pic there, it's impossible whether it's SUPER HIPER ULTRA Exmor sensor, it may have 30 MPx, it still will need some exposure time to take the pic, in which time the hand will shake this thing like crazy. At best backlit sensor in low light areas can do 1/30s IMO. Xenon flash gives us like 1/250s and even more. With xenon I can take as many pics I wish and I'm sure they will come out fine. With low power LED I have to steady myself, and hope that photo will come out only a little blurry. Xenon is a must. It's funny how I may have the best phone with best camera, but still take worse pics than good old k800i...
I'm absolutely serious. You keep forgetting about another attribute of photography, which would be the film/sensor sensitivity. A well-engineered CMOS sensor can go to higher ISO with less noise and more dynamic range; this is the primary feature of Sony's Exmor and Exmor R sensors. By not using as flash, you can actually SEE the pub you're in and not just completely washed out images of people's faces. An LED flash is actually superior to a xenon flash due to its lower power output, supplying enough light to the foreground without causing the background to disappear. I'm far more pleased with my XRay's camera than I was with my old C905 to the point where I've stopped bothering to find a point-and-shoot because I really don't need one anymore (whereas the C905's pictures were noisy at low ISOs and the xenon flash was absolutely horrendous to the point where I still felt I needed another camera for when I didn't want to lug around an SLR).
Here's one of two examples I just took. Low amounts of ambient lighting less than what you'd find in a typical bar. ISO4000 (I'd avoid ISO4000 even on an APS-C SLR, let alone a 1/3.2" sensor), f2.4, and 1/15th. I added +2.0EV because I couldn't get the camera to expose the way I wanted it to, which, since it was destructive editing, added quite a bit of terrible noise grain.
Here's the same setting but with the LED flash on. ISO1600 (still high but more manageable), f/2.4, and 1/25th. First off, it's not very blurry and I honestly don't have very steady hands. Second of all, the it provides enough lighting to cover the area without blowing out the area. There are no harshly bright spots on the glossy surface of the guitar (imagine not-completely-dry skin with a higher-output flash, and you'll see another reason why xenon flashes really aren't that great), and you can still see the surroundings.
On 2011-12-13 13:18:48, disiz wrote:
Xenon flash is really great for night photos. Today every phones make good day picts, but inside or by night, the picts are really noisy, then for now we need xenon flash because as you said manufacturers prefers growth MPixels capacity than sensor or lens itself... A friend has a Xperia Arc, and my satio results are much better. For red-eyes you're right that's a problem, but I prefer red eyes with a good focus, than normal eyes and noisy pict
And for dark background, I always apply some settings, because as all automatic mode on digital camera isn't great
That's why we're wainting hard for a Sony mobile with xenon flash, because the Motorola XT720 isn't very good
Here's a picture taken at night (6:50AM local time). 1/50, f/2.4, ISO640. The noise levels are actually pretty low and the exposure is excellent; in fact, a good amount of dynamic range is preserved. In fact, Sony's 8MP Exmor R module performs well on a technical level; however, Sony has a tendency to go overboard with noise reduction, which kills reduces detail.
Posted by admad
Here's the same setting but with the LED flash on. ISO1600 (still high but more manageable), f/2.4, and 1/25th. First off, it's not very blurry and I honestly don't have very steady hands. Second of all, the it provides enough lighting to cover the area without blowing out the area. There are no harshly bright spots on the glossy surface of the guitar (imagine not-completely-dry skin with a higher-output flash, and you'll see another reason why xenon flashes really aren't that great), and you can still see the surroundings.
Ok this one isn't bad, but look at the distance, it's very close, when LED flash still has some power, beyond 1,5m it's useless, so will be the photos. And 1/25th isn't that great either...
Don't get me wrong all things have pros and cons. I would just love to see a phone with xenon flash and LED, perfect combination
I was hoping it would be next SE flagship, but looking at how things are going, it's even worse than before (non-removable battery, no SD slot, microSIM(well with this one I can live... but still)[ This Message was edited by: admad on 2011-12-13 16:29 ]
Posted by motvikt
Xperiablog says the sony-phone is a concept made of clay or something
http://www.xperiablog.net/201[....]entified-sony-xperia-surfaces/
[ This Message was edited by: motvikt on 2011-12-13 16:43 ]
Posted by lolstebbo
On 2011-12-13 17:28:12, admad wrote:
Ok this one isn't bad, but look at the distance, it's very close, when LED flash still has some power, beyond 1,5m it's useless, so will be the photos. And 1/25th isn't that great either...
My point in terms of the LED's power output is it'll be powerful to illuminate what's near you without causing the background to need to become pitch black so as to not let the foreground overexpose. In a setting such as a bar, the ISO will adjust itself. Furthermore, if you can't hold an object steady at 1/25th........ I'll abstain from commenting further on that.
Posted by argiriano
On 2011-12-13 17:42:12, motvikt wrote:
Xperiablog says the sony-phone is a concept made of clay or something
http://www.xperiablog.net/201[....]entified-sony-xperia-surfaces/
[ This Message was edited by: motvikt on 2011-12-13 16:43 ]
If true it`s too bad for
cause I like prototype with silver-like side more than device shown on GSMArena pics. 
Posted by rog
On 2011-12-13 04:06:14, Karun wrote:
Love your little tidbits of info. But is the non removable battery and microsim confirmed?
I wouldn't call it non-removable. Maybe not-so-easy-removable is more appropriate
Posted by Bonovox
www.gsmarena.com/new_live_pho[....]artphone_surface-news-3513.php
Posted by SE cz
On 2011-12-13 20:39:45, Bonovox wrote:
http://www.gsmarena.com/new_l[....]artphone_surface-news-3513.php
Use ur brain bro, clear Photoshop job just got U
[ This Message was edited by: SE cz on 2011-12-13 22:34 ]
Posted by adsada
Yes clearly a concept, check out Xperia Blog. The specs GSM list are ones similar to the arc, so if this was the specs to be found on this phone why would it need such a large 'bulge' at the bottom, when the same technology was able to be fit in the thin arc.
Also might just me, but that sony logo looks really stupid in my opinion, It is far too small hopefully when they do do the brand change they will manage to fit their logo of the actual size...
Also hey there SE CZ, I am from Prague
[ This Message was edited by: adsada on 2011-12-13 22:19 ]
Posted by SE cz
Just STOP posting here "shit" about non real SE phones plz, this is not Concept thread, thank U all.
@adsada: cuss, Opava
Posted by king-james
I hope this is really a f**kin concept!! Cause its looking so horrible shitty. Has nothing to do with SonyStyle!
Posted by Legen
I kinda like it. Have always like the sony minimalistic design. No clutter. And paired with the rumored specs, its a good phone. Here's to hoping its real.
On another note, design is weird. How would it sit on a flat surface? The top would be slanted away from you...
Posted by pavlov's_dog
uhmm. why do people insist that these are mere concepts? they are obviously real phones or at least real dummy phones. the attention to detail is just superb.
Posted by Karun
On 2011-12-13 20:00:28, rog wrote:
On 2011-12-13 04:06:14, Karun wrote:
Love your little tidbits of info. But is the non removable battery and microsim confirmed?
I wouldn't call it non-removable. Maybe not-so-easy-removable is more appropriate
I think that this device is better than it seems atm, right rog?
Posted by smclion102
New Xperia models from Sony Ericsson during CES 2012
In an email from Sony Ericsson has indicated that it intends to present several new Xperia handsets in conjunction CES-exhibition by next year which takes place in early January. Few have enough Nazomi images on and off the email below to judge shall be involved in each case more than a new model.
Please see attached (Ed note: the image above) for invitation to Sony Ericsson at The Wynn Encore Hotel where the latest Xperia models will be presented.
– Sony Ericsson via Burston Marsteller public relations firm
Unlike the launch of the xperia play, neo, pro, pro mini, and mini are betting the company on CES before Mobile World Congress this time. This may have several explanations and be as simple as a matter of timing that Sony Ericsson would be faster with United States-launches in parallel as they wish to improve relations with the country's telephone operators.
Via
swedroid.se
[ This Message was edited by: smclion102 on 2011-12-14 07:32 ]
Posted by smclion102
New Sony Ericsson Xperia leaks – is this LT22i Nypon?
We have seen so many leaks of the Sony Ericsson LT26i Nozomi, that it’s nice to finally see a leaked picture of a new Xperia. We were sent the following picture which shows a new Xperia model that looks remarkably similar to the Nozomi pics that leaked recently.
However, this ties in exactly with what we’ve been told by our own sources who say the LT22i Nypon will be very similar in appearance to LT26i Nozomi. The Nypon is believed to sport a 4-inch qHD (540 x 960) display rather than the 4.3-inch (720 x 1280) display of the Nozomi.
In fact the only way we were able to distinguish this leaked phone was by looking at the front facing camera, which is on the left side versus the right side on the Nozomi. Also, the Sony Ericsson logo is below the earpiece on this new phone, whilst it sits above the earpiece in Nozomi. Whilst we can’t say for sure, this very much looks like Nypon to us.
Via
Xperiablog
[ This Message was edited by: smclion102 on 2011-12-14 13:12 ]
Posted by aamwng
I'm sorry, but that is no Sony Ericsson or even Sony design!!!!
That chin...
Posted by smclion102
^^^
I am Guessing its "LT28"
Nozomi Junior ???
[ This Message was edited by: smclion102 on 2011-12-14 13:18 ]
Posted by motvikt
On 2011-12-12 20:40:41, aurelius wrote:
On 2011-12-12 20:36:06, Ylli wrote:
On 2011-12-12 20:18:44, aurelius wrote:
A friend works at ST-E and he told me that he has played with a phone that looks exactly like this but made of metall/aluminum instead.
maybe its the sides of the phone that is made of metall/aluminium like XPERIA RAY
He compared it to HTC legend in quality...
And now we have a picture of it
All and all it looks like a much better buy than nozomi imo. 4inch screen, u8500, metal casing. Its almost a perfect phone!
Posted by Detox
Update: We have been given a bit more information on this phone. The phone will have an aluminium curved back cover. Also, if you’re wondering about the ‘Xperia’ chin at the bottom of the phone, this is believed to be a removable cap which can be interchanged for different colours. As always, take these rumours with a pinch of salt.
Posted by aurelius
On 2011-12-14 14:18:24, motvikt wrote:
On 2011-12-12 20:40:41, aurelius wrote:
On 2011-12-12 20:36:06, Ylli wrote:
On 2011-12-12 20:18:44, aurelius wrote:
A friend works at ST-E and he told me that he has played with a phone that looks exactly like this but made of metall/aluminum instead.
maybe its the sides of the phone that is made of metall/aluminium like XPERIA RAY
He compared it to HTC legend in quality...
And now we have a picture of it
All and all it looks like a much better buy than nozomi imo. 4inch screen, u8500, metal casing. Its almost a perfect phone!
Oh yes
Posted by jack00
wonderful
reminds me on the T610
...the circle closes
Posted by HxH
4' and 720p is my favorite size, please!!
Posted by argiriano
So, someone should apologize to aurelius, cause he sad first that there is the same device like LT26 but with metal casing.
[ This Message was edited by: argiriano on 2011-12-14 15:22 ]