Posted by ^^HAMID^^
Standard USB size port????? am I right?
That's too long for a micro usb port lid i think!
and...
Non replaceable battery !
[ This Message was edited by: ^^HAMID^^ on 2011-12-12 12:42 ]
Posted by Ricky D
fixed battery and fixed memory
@^^HAMID^^ it will be microUSB as that is the standard that all manufacturers have agreed to work towards. All new phones from the major manufacturers will be microUSB in 2012
Posted by motvikt
Shame looks like plastic all over again
Posted by juris15
reminds me of xperia pureness
Posted by nikos_se
Nah i wont buy that kind of phone for 2012....If it was out today to compete with the likes of htc rezound/galaxy nexus/galaxy note,then ok.I' ll probably wait for some true SONY smartphones by the end of 2012.
can say with it's scorpion cpu-when everyone will have moved to cortex a9/cortex a15/krait-i wont be supporting them,this time around.
Posted by Ricky D
did anyone else notice that the notification bar is clear through the phone? Does than mean the bottom section is basically obsolete, an empty casing? or is there clear iring magic going on there?
P.S. I still think the bar looks cheap and brings down the whole phone
edit: wow, you can see the paint rubbed off already on the corners of the volume rocker. They'll need to touch that up a bit with quality paint before release
[ This Message was edited by: Ricky D on 2011-12-12 13:41 ]
Posted by aurelius
Love it!
Posted by Fiskarbert
No SD-card slot?
Posted by smclion102
Guys what are the Advantages of FIXED BATTERY ?? care to throw some light??
Posted by adsada
I can't really see tbh, I don't think there is any
. What is also a bit weird is why the 'battery' cover is removable when the only thing this provides access too is the Micro SIM card? Surely they could have put this on the side of the phone. Having a battery cover makes the phone feel more flimsy (my the battery cover on my arc creaks) where as phones without this, like the iPhone feel far stronger...so that would be the only advantage of not having a removable battery, but then SE have decided to opt for a cover anyway? baffling...
Also the back looks very bare and very x10 like. An interesting strategy is the Micro SIM and non-removable battery, which sadly looks like they are going 'main stream' to get more sales, like samsung has done) compromising on amazing unique designs, and making it look more like your standard touch screen phone...
Posted by Ricky D
Fixed battery means that they can place the elements of the battery in whatever shape or size they want, not have to put it in a special case of it's own and save on precious cubic mm of volume in the casing. I believe.
The trade off is that when he phone gets older ad the battery is getting upset after 1000s of charges/discharges you can't replace it without opening the housing and potentially voiding your warranty.
For me it's nice to see fully internal memory at 16GB and 32GB and I'm ok with the internal battery and micro-sim (if that's what it is) I can deal with them.
Posted by smclion102
Picture of Sony Ericsson’s new Gingerbread UXP
[ This Message was edited by: smclion102 on 2011-12-12 14:57 ]
Posted by Legen
I like the name "Arc HD". Is it confirmed thats the name? Hope they keep it
[ This Message was edited by: Legen on 2011-12-12 15:43 ]
Posted by moogoo
hmm...
live shots are great but i'm a bit disappointed with some things. having a removable back over is pointless if the battery can't be replaced. a simple slot for the SIM would have been sufficient. the portion under the clear bar, as ricky said, seems to be useless? That's just poor design i think. Why increase the size of the device for no reason?
These pictures don't really do it any justice. Poor lighting, poor camera quality. I'll wait to see what the official announcement says. I hope they right some of the wrongs here and explain the purpose of the bottom portion, if there is one.
Posted by SE cz
On 2011-12-12 16:42:12, Legen wrote:
I like the name "Arc HD". Is it confirmed thats the name? Hope they keep it
[ This Message was edited by: Legen on 2011-12-12 15:43 ]
Different HW, different proportions, different design, there is no similarity between Arc and Nozomi. I think name will begin with "c" or "e" letter (according to alleged 1st official pic leak).
Posted by dika
I'm wondering whether Nozomi will be released with ICS or not...
Posted by ^^HAMID^^
If phone hanged how could be possible to reset the phone?
Sometime it comes to you that u should remove and replace the battery through the tweaking ! (changing roms for e.g)
I don't see any 0-1 button!
Posted by adsada
I servilely doubt the bottom bit below the see through part would just be an empty bit of plastic - come on, give SE some credit!
Posted by Legen
On 2011-12-12 17:11:29, SE cz wrote:
On 2011-12-12 16:42:12, Legen wrote:
I like the name "Arc HD". Is it confirmed thats the name? Hope they keep it
[ This Message was edited by: Legen on 2011-12-12 15:43 ]
Different HW, different proportions, different design, there is no similarity between Arc and Nozomi. I think name will begin with "c" or "e" letter (according to alleged 1st official pic leak).
HTC Desire and Desire HD. How similar are those two? There countless other examples. Think the point of continuing a name is to MARKET a device as an upgrade
Posted by badassmam
If its called Arc HD, where is the Arc? This isn't the main device by the way.
Posted by DACHA
It looks more like an X10 HD.
Posted by Karun
No removable battery? Shucks
What do we do if the phone hangs? 
Posted by lolstebbo
On 2011-12-12 18:59:06, Legen wrote:
On 2011-12-12 17:11:29, SE cz wrote:
On 2011-12-12 16:42:12, Legen wrote:
I like the name "Arc HD". Is it confirmed thats the name? Hope they keep it
[ This Message was edited by: Legen on 2011-12-12 15:43 ]
Different HW, different proportions, different design, there is no similarity between Arc and Nozomi. I think name will begin with "c" or "e" letter (according to alleged 1st official pic leak).
HTC Desire and Desire HD. How similar are those two? There countless other examples. Think the point of continuing a name is to MARKET a device as an upgrade
Well, the Desire and Desire HD are actually pretty similar; same internal chipset. The main difference is the size.
That said, the Sensation and Sensation XL are completely different (the XL not even using the same processor/chipset).
Posted by moogoo
@badassmam what do you mean by it isn't the main device?
Posted by aurelius
A friend works at ST-E and he told me that he has played with a phone that looks exactly like this but made of metall/aluminum instead.
Posted by Legen
On 2011-12-12 19:47:44, moogoo wrote:
@badassmam what do you mean by it isn't the main device?
+1.5
Posted by Legen
@ lolstebbo. Think you just made my point. But like i wrote earlier, hope they keep the name
[ This Message was edited by: Legen on 2011-12-12 19:31 ]
Posted by Ylli
On 2011-12-12 20:18:44, aurelius wrote:
A friend works at ST-E and he told me that he has played with a phone that looks exactly like this but made of metall/aluminum instead.
maybe its the sides of the phone that is made of metall/aluminium like XPERIA RAY
Posted by aurelius
On 2011-12-12 20:36:06, Ylli wrote:
On 2011-12-12 20:18:44, aurelius wrote:
A friend works at ST-E and he told me that he has played with a phone that looks exactly like this but made of metall/aluminum instead.
maybe its the sides of the phone that is made of metall/aluminium like XPERIA RAY
He compared it to HTC legend in quality...
Posted by rog
On 2011-12-12 15:57:11, smclion102 wrote:
Picture of Sony Ericsson’s new Gingerbread UXP
Good thing that screenshot only shows the most boring part of the new UI
Posted by SE cz
On 2011-12-12 18:59:06, Legen wrote:
On 2011-12-12 17:11:29, SE cz wrote:
On 2011-12-12 16:42:12, Legen wrote:
I like the name "Arc HD". Is it confirmed thats the name? Hope they keep it
[ This Message was edited by: Legen on 2011-12-12 15:43 ]
Different HW, different proportions, different design, there is no similarity between Arc and Nozomi. I think name will begin with "c" or "e" letter (according to alleged 1st official pic leak).
HTC Desire and Desire HD. How similar are those two? There countless other examples. Think the point of continuing a name is to MARKET a device as an upgrade
We are still talking about Sony Ericsson, did U ever seen they used same name for successor? OK, there was something like this: X10 mini -> mini, X10 mini pro -> mini pro, arc -> arc S, neo -> neo V (camera downgrade). But that's all. They all call Nozomi as Arc HD becouse they don't know how to call it.
On 2011-12-12 19:45:17, Karun wrote:
No removable battery? Shucks
What do we do if the phone hangs?
hammer?
[ This Message was edited by: SE cz on 2011-12-12 20:39 ]
Posted by marcink
I hope this isn't sony ericssons/sony flagship for 2012. So much wasted space, specification good only if released immediately after announcement, controversial design and usability decisions. They should release it asap before true 2012 flagships appear
Posted by lolstebbo
On 2011-12-12 20:27:15, Legen wrote:
@ lolstebbo. Think you just made my point. But like i wrote earlier, hope they keep the name
[ This Message was edited by: Legen on 2011-12-12 19:31 ]
Only as far as the Sensation is concerned; in the case of the Desire HD, it literally was a larger version of the same device, more or less. If the LT26 is called the Xperia Arc HD, it's not really the same case as the Desire.
Besides, this doesn't have an Arc shape. Why the hell would they have the word "Arc" in its name,then?
Posted by rickster2kuk
I looks a bit chunky to me compared to the lovely design of the Arc. Would be interested to see the actual dimensions.
Where has the notification LED gone? Is it incorporated into the button bar or is it next to the earpiece, i.e. like the X10?
Posted by Platia1
If it's anything like the Ray, it will be a part of the clear plastic.
Posted by motvikt
On 2011-12-12 20:18:44, aurelius wrote:
A friend works at ST-E and he told me that he has played with a phone that looks exactly like this but made of metall/aluminum instead.
Good news!
Posted by disiz
Non-removable battery, no xenon flash, microSim, seem pretty height... Again and again disappointed about SE... We'll be in 2012, come on SE...
Posted by adsada
So, uhh, 2013 anyone?
Posted by lolstebbo
On 2011-12-13 00:21:51, disiz wrote:
Non-removable battery, no xenon flash, microSim, seem pretty height... Again and again disappointed about SE... We'll be in 2012, come on SE...
Here's the question I have: What the hell is the fuss about xenon flashes? Everything in the foreground gets washed out or completely flattened while everything in the background becomes too dark due to absolute underexposure, it kills battery life like crazy, and they're generally placed too close to the lens thus making red-eye removal software necessary (as if SE's default software processing algorithms weren't extreme enough).
If people weren't so caught up about megapixels and focused on other sensor attributes (such as noise and dynamic range), then it becomes much more probable that we could get a low-resolution, high-sensitivity sensor effective enough to negate the need for a flash at all (and that manufacturers could actually market such a sensor as a superior alternative to a stupid 8/12/16MP sensor that no one needs).
Posted by nikos_se
Maybe your friend was lying to you???Because every leaked cpu test(+SOURCES) suggests that LT26i will be coming with dual-core scorpion at 1.5ghz.++Even if they were using st-ericsson based cpus,anything below u9540 would be less capable than exynos 4210 found on galaxy s2
Posted by FMW300
I'm assuming there's a trade-off with putting a non-removable battery in a phone? Does this mean they can have a much more powerful battery installed now, as opposed to having a removable one?
Posted by lolstebbo
On 2011-12-13 01:21:33, FMW300i wrote:
I'm assuming there's a trade-off with putting a non-removable battery in a phone? Does this mean they can have a much more powerful battery installed now, as opposed to having a removable one?
Here's a factually correct response:
On 2011-12-12 15:44:13, Ricky D wrote:
Fixed battery means that they can place the elements of the battery in whatever shape or size they want, not have to put it in a special case of it's own and save on precious cubic mm of volume in the casing.
Posted by -16-
Some guy in an other forum came up with a good point: I'm confused now. Why they put a non-removable battery and a micro sim slot in this phone but don't give it a non-removable backcover? The only reason to remove it is to put a tiny SIM in it. I think with a little more engineering time they were able to put the SIM slot on the outside, so the phone has no gaps.
[ This Message was edited by: -16- on 2011-12-13 01:02 ]
Posted by Ricky D
I've had a feeling for a couple weeks now that this leaked device isn't in fact the Arc successor but Neo's successor and a better device is being kept under close guard.
This could be the metal version of this device, with a different chipset, which a couple of sources have suggested.
or
(I'm hoping for) A completely different device.
I may be misinterpreting, but, badassmam and rog seem to have alluded that there may be more and to not be disappointed by this, so I'm still hoping for better.
Posted by lolstebbo
On 2011-12-13 01:42:37, -16- wrote:
Some guy in an other forum came up with a good point: I'm confused now. Why they put a non-removable battery and a micro sim slot in this phone but don't give it a non-removable backcover? The only reason to remove it is to put a tiny SIM in it. I think with a little more engineering time they were able to put the SIM slot on the outside, so the phone has no gaps.
[ This Message was edited by: -16- on 2011-12-13 01:02 ]
It seems like they also wanted to conceal the screws and the regulatory information label, hence the back cover.
[ This Message was edited by: lolstebbo on 2011-12-13 01:29 ]
Posted by yuunanase
On 2011-12-13 02:28:21, lolstebbo wrote:
On 2011-12-13 01:42:37, -16- wrote:
Some guy in an other forum came up with a good point: I'm confused now. Why they put a non-removable battery and a micro sim slot in this phone but don't give it a non-removable backcover? The only reason to remove it is to put a tiny SIM in it. I think with a little more engineering time they were able to put the SIM slot on the outside, so the phone has no gaps.
[ This Message was edited by: -16- on 2011-12-13 01:02 ]
It seems like they also wanted to conceal the screws and the regulatory information label, hence the back cover.
[ This Message was edited by: lolstebbo on 2011-12-13 01:29 ]
Still make no sense. They have managed to hide it nicely on K850 and Pureness, but why on this?
Posted by Ricky D
Has anybody spotted the 3.5mm glory hole on this thing? I mean, I use a bluetooth IS800 headset anyway but a 3.5mm would be nice.
If you notice the back cover has almost no markings on it at all beside the SE ball. Every other design that's like this by SE has Sony Ericsson written down the spine. Which means either Sony cut it out in an effort to reduce the 'Ericsson' part's mind share or maybe the back panel will be sealed and the sim slot moved in the final release and this is just a proto.
Posted by FMW300
On 2011-12-13 02:45:46, Ricky D wrote:
If you notice the back cover has almost no markings on it at all beside the SE ball. Every other design that's like this by SE has Sony Ericsson written down the spine. Which means either Sony cut it out in an effort to reduce the 'Ericsson' part's mind share or maybe the back panel will be sealed and the sim slot moved in the final release and this is just a proto.
Actually, no 2011 Xperia phone has Sony Ericsson on the back, only
XPERIA. The 2010 Xperias had it though. The only difference with Nozomi is XPERIA is written on the back cover in portrait, instead of landscape.[ This Message was edited by: FMW300i on 2011-12-13 02:56 ]
Posted by Karun
On 2011-12-12 20:41:49, rog wrote:
Good thing that screenshot only shows the most boring part of the new UI
Love your little tidbits of info. But is the non removable battery and microsim confirmed?
Posted by lolstebbo
On 2011-12-13 02:34:40, yuunanase wrote:
Still make no sense. They have managed to hide it nicely on K850 and Pureness, but why on this?
It comes down to how the phones were constructed.
The K850 is held together with plastic tabs: http://www.formymobile.co.uk/Dismantle/k850idisassembly.htm
I don't know about the Xperia Pureness, but it's likely that it's constructed in a similar fashion.
If the LT26's construction is similar to the Ray's, then that would explain why there's a backplate for covering the screws (since it's an aluminum frame with stuff screwed to it).
[ This Message was edited by: lolstebbo on 2011-12-13 04:17 ]