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Posted by lolstebbo

On 2011-12-13 00:21:51, disiz wrote:
Non-removable battery, no xenon flash, microSim, seem pretty height... Again and again disappointed about SE... We'll be in 2012, come on SE...


Here's the question I have: What the hell is the fuss about xenon flashes? Everything in the foreground gets washed out or completely flattened while everything in the background becomes too dark due to absolute underexposure, it kills battery life like crazy, and they're generally placed too close to the lens thus making red-eye removal software necessary (as if SE's default software processing algorithms weren't extreme enough).

If people weren't so caught up about megapixels and focused on other sensor attributes (such as noise and dynamic range), then it becomes much more probable that we could get a low-resolution, high-sensitivity sensor effective enough to negate the need for a flash at all (and that manufacturers could actually market such a sensor as a superior alternative to a stupid 8/12/16MP sensor that no one needs).


Posted by nikos_se
Maybe your friend was lying to you???Because every leaked cpu test(+SOURCES) suggests that LT26i will be coming with dual-core scorpion at 1.5ghz.++Even if they were using st-ericsson based cpus,anything below u9540 would be less capable than exynos 4210 found on galaxy s2

Posted by FMW300
I'm assuming there's a trade-off with putting a non-removable battery in a phone? Does this mean they can have a much more powerful battery installed now, as opposed to having a removable one?

Posted by lolstebbo

On 2011-12-13 01:21:33, FMW300i wrote:
I'm assuming there's a trade-off with putting a non-removable battery in a phone? Does this mean they can have a much more powerful battery installed now, as opposed to having a removable one?



Here's a factually correct response:


On 2011-12-12 15:44:13, Ricky D wrote:
Fixed battery means that they can place the elements of the battery in whatever shape or size they want, not have to put it in a special case of it's own and save on precious cubic mm of volume in the casing.




Posted by -16-
Some guy in an other forum came up with a good point: I'm confused now. Why they put a non-removable battery and a micro sim slot in this phone but don't give it a non-removable backcover? The only reason to remove it is to put a tiny SIM in it. I think with a little more engineering time they were able to put the SIM slot on the outside, so the phone has no gaps.
[ This Message was edited by: -16- on 2011-12-13 01:02 ]


Posted by Ricky D
I've had a feeling for a couple weeks now that this leaked device isn't in fact the Arc successor but Neo's successor and a better device is being kept under close guard.

This could be the metal version of this device, with a different chipset, which a couple of sources have suggested.

or

(I'm hoping for) A completely different device.

I may be misinterpreting, but, badassmam and rog seem to have alluded that there may be more and to not be disappointed by this, so I'm still hoping for better.

Posted by lolstebbo

On 2011-12-13 01:42:37, -16- wrote:
Some guy in an other forum came up with a good point: I'm confused now. Why they put a non-removable battery and a micro sim slot in this phone but don't give it a non-removable backcover? The only reason to remove it is to put a tiny SIM in it. I think with a little more engineering time they were able to put the SIM slot on the outside, so the phone has no gaps.
[ This Message was edited by: -16- on 2011-12-13 01:02 ]



It seems like they also wanted to conceal the screws and the regulatory information label, hence the back cover.
[ This Message was edited by: lolstebbo on 2011-12-13 01:29 ]


Posted by yuunanase

On 2011-12-13 02:28:21, lolstebbo wrote:

On 2011-12-13 01:42:37, -16- wrote:
Some guy in an other forum came up with a good point: I'm confused now. Why they put a non-removable battery and a micro sim slot in this phone but don't give it a non-removable backcover? The only reason to remove it is to put a tiny SIM in it. I think with a little more engineering time they were able to put the SIM slot on the outside, so the phone has no gaps.
[ This Message was edited by: -16- on 2011-12-13 01:02 ]



It seems like they also wanted to conceal the screws and the regulatory information label, hence the back cover.
[ This Message was edited by: lolstebbo on 2011-12-13 01:29 ]



Still make no sense. They have managed to hide it nicely on K850 and Pureness, but why on this?

Posted by Ricky D
Has anybody spotted the 3.5mm glory hole on this thing? I mean, I use a bluetooth IS800 headset anyway but a 3.5mm would be nice.

If you notice the back cover has almost no markings on it at all beside the SE ball. Every other design that's like this by SE has Sony Ericsson written down the spine. Which means either Sony cut it out in an effort to reduce the 'Ericsson' part's mind share or maybe the back panel will be sealed and the sim slot moved in the final release and this is just a proto.

Posted by FMW300

On 2011-12-13 02:45:46, Ricky D wrote:
If you notice the back cover has almost no markings on it at all beside the SE ball. Every other design that's like this by SE has Sony Ericsson written down the spine. Which means either Sony cut it out in an effort to reduce the 'Ericsson' part's mind share or maybe the back panel will be sealed and the sim slot moved in the final release and this is just a proto.

Actually, no 2011 Xperia phone has Sony Ericsson on the back, only XPERIA. The 2010 Xperias had it though. The only difference with Nozomi is XPERIA is written on the back cover in portrait, instead of landscape.
[ This Message was edited by: FMW300i on 2011-12-13 02:56 ]


Posted by Karun

On 2011-12-12 20:41:49, rog wrote:

Good thing that screenshot only shows the most boring part of the new UI



Love your little tidbits of info. But is the non removable battery and microsim confirmed?

Posted by lolstebbo

On 2011-12-13 02:34:40, yuunanase wrote:

Still make no sense. They have managed to hide it nicely on K850 and Pureness, but why on this?



It comes down to how the phones were constructed.

The K850 is held together with plastic tabs: http://www.formymobile.co.uk/Dismantle/k850idisassembly.htm

I don't know about the Xperia Pureness, but it's likely that it's constructed in a similar fashion.

If the LT26's construction is similar to the Ray's, then that would explain why there's a backplate for covering the screws (since it's an aluminum frame with stuff screwed to it).
[ This Message was edited by: lolstebbo on 2011-12-13 04:17 ]


Posted by smclion102

On 2011-12-12 20:41:49, rog wrote:

On 2011-12-12 15:57:11, smclion102 wrote:
Picture of Sony Ericsson’s new Gingerbread UXP


Good thing that screenshot only shows the most boring part of the new UI


Leak some Pics

have to wait till CES i guess

Posted by MNX1024
What do you guys think of the following article here:
http://www.droiddog.com/andro[....]4g-leaks-in-training-document/

Posted by lolstebbo

On 2011-12-13 07:04:23, MNX1024 wrote:
What do you guys think of the following article here:
http://www.droiddog.com/andro[....]4g-leaks-in-training-document/


Hopefully it's, like, an LTE version of an Xperia Play 2.

Posted by Ricky D
That article says that it shouldn't be mistaken for AT&T's Play 4G, but surely it wouldn't much different? Just a different radio chipset for Verizon's network. Am I wrong?

@FMW300i You're right! I'm a little red faced now as I never noticed on my Arc that it didn't say Sony Ericsson on the back. This leaked handset does look weird though without any text down the middle.

Posted by admad

On 2011-12-13 00:57:17, lolstebbo wrote:

On 2011-12-13 00:21:51, disiz wrote:
Non-removable battery, no xenon flash, microSim, seem pretty height... Again and again disappointed about SE... We'll be in 2012, come on SE...


Here's the question I have: What the hell is the fuss about xenon flashes? Everything in the foreground gets washed out or completely flattened while everything in the background becomes too dark due to absolute underexposure, it kills battery life like crazy, and they're generally placed too close to the lens thus making red-eye removal software necessary (as if SE's default software processing algorithms weren't extreme enough).

If people weren't so caught up about megapixels and focused on other sensor attributes (such as noise and dynamic range), then it becomes much more probable that we could get a low-resolution, high-sensitivity sensor effective enough to negate the need for a flash at all (and that manufacturers could actually market such a sensor as a superior alternative to a stupid 8/12/16MP sensor that no one needs).


Are You serious? Try going to a pub for example, and take a good pic there, it's impossible whether it's SUPER HIPER ULTRA Exmor sensor, it may have 30 MPx, it still will need some exposure time to take the pic, in which time the hand will shake this thing like crazy. At best backlit sensor in low light areas can do 1/30s IMO. Xenon flash gives us like 1/250s and even more. With xenon I can take as many pics I wish and I'm sure they will come out fine. With low power LED I have to steady myself, and hope that photo will come out only a little blurry. Xenon is a must. It's funny how I may have the best phone with best camera, but still take worse pics than good old k800i...

Posted by nikos_se
Trust me i want it to happen more than you do.I think going with ST-ericsson would make more competitive with other brands,than going with qualcomm.The thing is,that every leaked information we have about Nozomi indicates that it will be using dual-core scorpion.So,i kind of doubt that will release a similar device with a different processor.If you are talking about Nypon here,then ok.!!!But Nozomi will with a 90% certainty be using a dual-core scorpion cpu.I dont mean to doubt you,i just keep it realistic.

Posted by motvikt

On 2011-12-13 09:09:12, aurelius wrote:

On 2011-12-13 00:58:21, nikos_se wrote:
Maybe your friend was lying to you???Because every leaked cpu test(+SOURCES) suggests that LT26i will be coming with dual-core scorpion at 1.5ghz.++Even if they were using st-ericsson based cpus,anything below u9540 would be less capable than exynos 4210 found on galaxy s2


Why would my best friend (I'm 37, he's 36) lie to me? I don't know about you and your friends but we don't lie to each other. There's so many versions of each phone floating around and many of them are test/pre-production units only. I was only referring to what he said.

The ST-E U8500 running 2x1GHz outperformed Qualcomm's 2x1,2GHz in 80% of the tests so it's not a bad platform. Also, ST-E platform will probably be used in midrange phones not high-end, and it's MUCH cheaper than qualcomms.

And btw, u can run U8500 in 1,5 if you want to.



St-ericsson is awesome and is the only platform right now that can compete with samsung



Posted by adsada

On 2011-12-13 10:46:21, admad wrote:

On 2011-12-13 00:57:17, lolstebbo wrote:

On 2011-12-13 00:21:51, disiz wrote:
Non-removable battery, no xenon flash, microSim, seem pretty height... Again and again disappointed about SE... We'll be in 2012, come on SE...


Here's the question I have: What the hell is the fuss about xenon flashes? Everything in the foreground gets washed out or completely flattened while everything in the background becomes too dark due to absolute underexposure, it kills battery life like crazy, and they're generally placed too close to the lens thus making red-eye removal software necessary (as if SE's default software processing algorithms weren't extreme enough).

If people weren't so caught up about megapixels and focused on other sensor attributes (such as noise and dynamic range), then it becomes much more probable that we could get a low-resolution, high-sensitivity sensor effective enough to negate the need for a flash at all (and that manufacturers could actually market such a sensor as a superior alternative to a stupid 8/12/16MP sensor that no one needs).


Are You serious? Try going to a pub for example, and take a good pic there, it's impossible whether it's SUPER HIPER ULTRA Exmor sensor, it may have 30 MPx, it still will need some exposure time to take the pic, in which time the hand will shake this thing like crazy. At best backlit sensor in low light areas can do 1/30s IMO. Xenon flash gives us like 1/250s and even more. With xenon I can take as many pics I wish and I'm sure they will come out fine. With low power LED I have to steady myself, and hope that photo will come out only a little blurry. Xenon is a must. It's funny how I may have the best phone with best camera, but still take worse pics than good old k800i...


Just going to post my thought again

Being the previous owner of the K850i, I always said that once you've gone xenon you can never go back. Unfortunately I never had a choice in this matter as no android phone on the market came with this awesome feature. However after buying the xperia arc, I do manage just fine without it and although there are times when I would like to use it, its not so missed. What annoyed me most with the cyber-shot phone was the flash burn which ridiculously burnt out peoples faces. Also although most shots came out good, using the flash really didn't give a good idea of what was actually was seen by your eye when taking the photo and the moment you wanted to capture. With the arc, I find that the addition of Exmor-r really does help to bring more light to photos in the dark and photos I take actually look really good and capture the atmosphere of the moment very well. I have taken many photos in clubs and although you need a more steady hand (which admittedly can be hard while intoxicated) photos come out well. Photos of peoples faces with the LED flash light up the right amount without causing burn or making the light look unnatural. Also you can also see what's going on in the background (other people the lights etc.) whereas xenon would make the background completely black. Filming also works very well while the LED flash is on, not becoming blurry at all and again shows the atmosphere of the club well. What some might say sounds like a gimmick I believe works really well to help you capture a good night time photo without having to use a tripod, and captures a more realistic picture of what the moment actually was like.

Posted by adsada
Some press pictures of the new Xperia Play colour... I think I am actually in love with this orange colour, and am tempted to go out and buy a Play on this alone.



via XperiaBlog
[ This Message was edited by: adsada on 2011-12-13 10:33 ]


Posted by aamwng
All the rumours are doing my head in!!!
Just want to know if nozomi is the flagship!?!

Anyway, shouldn't we be starting a new thread? All the phones rumoured are in the 2012 portfolio

Posted by disiz
On 2011-12-13 00:57:17, lolstebbo wrote:

Here's the question I have: What the hell is the fuss about xenon flashes? Everything in the foreground gets washed out or completely flattened while everything in the background becomes too dark due to absolute underexposure, it kills battery life like crazy, and they're generally placed too close to the lens thus making red-eye removal software necessary (as if SE's default software processing algorithms weren't extreme enough).

If people weren't so caught up about megapixels and focused on other sensor attributes (such as noise and dynamic range), then it becomes much more probable that we could get a low-resolution, high-sensitivity sensor effective enough to negate the need for a flash at all (and that manufacturers could actually market such a sensor as a superior alternative to a stupid 8/12/16MP sensor that no one needs).
Xenon flash is really great for night photos. Today every phones make good day picts, but inside or by night, the picts are really noisy, then for now we need xenon flash because as you said manufacturers prefers growth MPixels capacity than sensor or lens itself... A friend has a Xperia Arc, and my satio results are much better. For red-eyes you're right that's a problem, but I prefer red eyes with a good focus, than normal eyes and noisy pict And for dark background, I always apply some settings, because as all automatic mode on digital camera isn't great
That's why we're wainting hard for a Sony mobile with xenon flash, because the Motorola XT720 isn't very good

Yes this Xperia 2 looks good, but waiting so see screensize & resolution

Posted by huiyi
lt22?。。logo。。sony....



Posted by Legen

On 2011-12-13 14:37:55, huiyi wrote:
lt22?。。logo。。sony....




Holy cow!

Posted by Ricky D
Be right back, I have to go change my underwear, I think I just jizzed.


Back: I think then that THIS is the Arc successor rather than that monstrosity were all been looking at for a few months, which, as I stated before, I believe to be Neo's update.

Someone please tell me that this isn't some fake PSed bull crap concept.
[ This Message was edited by: Ricky D on 2011-12-13 14:17 ]



Posted by randomuser
Ricky I hope you were being sarcastic
There is no way anybody could jizz over this Xperia COW

What in god's name is that stupid ugly bugle at the bottom!!!

Posted by Ravager
Hey! That's the Xperia Camel from about a week ago. So it's real then?


[ This Message was edited by: Ravager on 2011-12-13 14:36 ]


Posted by NightBlade
If it's got a xenon flash in it, I'm all in for the bulge.

Posted by pt020

On 2011-12-13 02:45:46, Ricky D wrote:
Has anybody spotted the 3.5mm glory hole on this thing?

Difficult to see but to me it looks like it is here ...


Posted by Ravager

On 2011-12-13 15:36:37, NightBlade wrote:
If it's got a xenon flash in it, I'm all in for the bulge.



So am I!

My only concern is, two completely different design languages ?
We have the LT26i's new brick style design and then the Camel which is very old Sony style, looks a bit like playstation, nothing like the new walkman for example.
[ This Message was edited by: Ravager on 2011-12-13 15:01 ]


Posted by Ricky D
@randomuser

Actually, one thing about the Arc is that when it sits in my hand, in portrait, and I reach down for the menu button, the centre of gravity is just off the top of my index finger so it feels like it will fall. I dropped it the first day I had it because of this. I've since learnt to stretch my fingers wider but it's slightly awkward and most of my friends have dropped my phone in their first instance of holding it. It's like a slippery fish.

It's also not easy to hold in one hand rotate to landscape and use the shutter button to take a photo because of the tiny frame at the bottom and the weight distribution.

This bulge on this supposed new Sony device will go some way to fixing the problems above. I'm a taker for the bulge with or without xenon.

There was no actual jizz, that bit was a joke, just excitement outside the pantal area.

Posted by smclion102
NOZOMI LEAKED


lt22 LEAKED



THIS PHONE YET TO BE LEAKED ???



via
http://www.concept-phones.com[....]-rock-2012-ice-cream-sandwich/
[ This Message was edited by: smclion102 on 2011-12-13 15:18 ]


Posted by argiriano

On 2011-12-13 15:36:37, NightBlade wrote:
If it's got a xenon flash in it, I'm all in for the bulge.


I doubt it! The device is so thin at the top (maybe around 7,5mm) so that bulge is needed for the camera lenses to f it without xenon. But xenon or not, the real question is how the hell someone will take picture in portrait mode when camera lens is covered by his hand..? It`s the same odd placement with Arc lens at the top edge and the tumbs but now on the bottom side. Even though it`s strange I think it will be comfortble to hold, and more stable in hand than RAZR opposite bulge.

Posted by sunrise_
@smclion102
These are 11 days old

"SONY LT22i" is probably just a concept too:
http://www.concept-phones.com[....]elative-xperia-arc-big-bottom/
[ This Message was edited by: sunrise_ on 2011-12-13 15:27 ]


Posted by argiriano

On 2011-12-13 15:41:12, Ravager wrote:

My only concern is, two completely different design languages ?
We have the LT26i's new brick style design and then the Camel which is very old Sony style, looks a bit like playstation, nothing like the new walkman for example.
[ This Message was edited by: Ravager on 2011-12-13 15:01 ]


I agree and may suggest that this is just Sony prototype phone that will never see real life. I hope I`m wrong, cause it look interesting.

Posted by lolstebbo

On 2011-12-13 10:46:21, admad wrote:
Are You serious? Try going to a pub for example, and take a good pic there, it's impossible whether it's SUPER HIPER ULTRA Exmor sensor, it may have 30 MPx, it still will need some exposure time to take the pic, in which time the hand will shake this thing like crazy. At best backlit sensor in low light areas can do 1/30s IMO. Xenon flash gives us like 1/250s and even more. With xenon I can take as many pics I wish and I'm sure they will come out fine. With low power LED I have to steady myself, and hope that photo will come out only a little blurry. Xenon is a must. It's funny how I may have the best phone with best camera, but still take worse pics than good old k800i...


I'm absolutely serious. You keep forgetting about another attribute of photography, which would be the film/sensor sensitivity. A well-engineered CMOS sensor can go to higher ISO with less noise and more dynamic range; this is the primary feature of Sony's Exmor and Exmor R sensors. By not using as flash, you can actually SEE the pub you're in and not just completely washed out images of people's faces. An LED flash is actually superior to a xenon flash due to its lower power output, supplying enough light to the foreground without causing the background to disappear. I'm far more pleased with my XRay's camera than I was with my old C905 to the point where I've stopped bothering to find a point-and-shoot because I really don't need one anymore (whereas the C905's pictures were noisy at low ISOs and the xenon flash was absolutely horrendous to the point where I still felt I needed another camera for when I didn't want to lug around an SLR).

Here's one of two examples I just took. Low amounts of ambient lighting less than what you'd find in a typical bar. ISO4000 (I'd avoid ISO4000 even on an APS-C SLR, let alone a 1/3.2" sensor), f2.4, and 1/15th. I added +2.0EV because I couldn't get the camera to expose the way I wanted it to, which, since it was destructive editing, added quite a bit of terrible noise grain.

Here's the same setting but with the LED flash on. ISO1600 (still high but more manageable), f/2.4, and 1/25th. First off, it's not very blurry and I honestly don't have very steady hands. Second of all, the it provides enough lighting to cover the area without blowing out the area. There are no harshly bright spots on the glossy surface of the guitar (imagine not-completely-dry skin with a higher-output flash, and you'll see another reason why xenon flashes really aren't that great), and you can still see the surroundings.


On 2011-12-13 13:18:48, disiz wrote:
Xenon flash is really great for night photos. Today every phones make good day picts, but inside or by night, the picts are really noisy, then for now we need xenon flash because as you said manufacturers prefers growth MPixels capacity than sensor or lens itself... A friend has a Xperia Arc, and my satio results are much better. For red-eyes you're right that's a problem, but I prefer red eyes with a good focus, than normal eyes and noisy pict And for dark background, I always apply some settings, because as all automatic mode on digital camera isn't great
That's why we're wainting hard for a Sony mobile with xenon flash, because the Motorola XT720 isn't very good


Here's a picture taken at night (6:50AM local time). 1/50, f/2.4, ISO640. The noise levels are actually pretty low and the exposure is excellent; in fact, a good amount of dynamic range is preserved. In fact, Sony's 8MP Exmor R module performs well on a technical level; however, Sony has a tendency to go overboard with noise reduction, which kills reduces detail.


Posted by admad
Here's the same setting but with the LED flash on. ISO1600 (still high but more manageable), f/2.4, and 1/25th. First off, it's not very blurry and I honestly don't have very steady hands. Second of all, the it provides enough lighting to cover the area without blowing out the area. There are no harshly bright spots on the glossy surface of the guitar (imagine not-completely-dry skin with a higher-output flash, and you'll see another reason why xenon flashes really aren't that great), and you can still see the surroundings.


Ok this one isn't bad, but look at the distance, it's very close, when LED flash still has some power, beyond 1,5m it's useless, so will be the photos. And 1/25th isn't that great either...

Don't get me wrong all things have pros and cons. I would just love to see a phone with xenon flash and LED, perfect combination I was hoping it would be next SE flagship, but looking at how things are going, it's even worse than before (non-removable battery, no SD slot, microSIM(well with this one I can live... but still)
[ This Message was edited by: admad on 2011-12-13 16:29 ]


Posted by motvikt
Xperiablog says the sony-phone is a concept made of clay or something

http://www.xperiablog.net/201[....]entified-sony-xperia-surfaces/
[ This Message was edited by: motvikt on 2011-12-13 16:43 ]


Posted by lolstebbo

On 2011-12-13 17:28:12, admad wrote:
Ok this one isn't bad, but look at the distance, it's very close, when LED flash still has some power, beyond 1,5m it's useless, so will be the photos. And 1/25th isn't that great either...


My point in terms of the LED's power output is it'll be powerful to illuminate what's near you without causing the background to need to become pitch black so as to not let the foreground overexpose. In a setting such as a bar, the ISO will adjust itself. Furthermore, if you can't hold an object steady at 1/25th........ I'll abstain from commenting further on that.

Posted by argiriano

On 2011-12-13 17:42:12, motvikt wrote:
Xperiablog says the sony-phone is a concept made of clay or something

http://www.xperiablog.net/201[....]entified-sony-xperia-surfaces/
[ This Message was edited by: motvikt on 2011-12-13 16:43 ]


If true it`s too bad for cause I like prototype with silver-like side more than device shown on GSMArena pics.

Posted by rog

On 2011-12-13 04:06:14, Karun wrote:
Love your little tidbits of info. But is the non removable battery and microsim confirmed?


I wouldn't call it non-removable. Maybe not-so-easy-removable is more appropriate

Posted by Bonovox
www.gsmarena.com/new_live_pho[....]artphone_surface-news-3513.php

Posted by SE cz


Use ur brain bro, clear Photoshop job just got U
[ This Message was edited by: SE cz on 2011-12-13 22:34 ]


Posted by adsada
Yes clearly a concept, check out Xperia Blog. The specs GSM list are ones similar to the arc, so if this was the specs to be found on this phone why would it need such a large 'bulge' at the bottom, when the same technology was able to be fit in the thin arc.

Also might just me, but that sony logo looks really stupid in my opinion, It is far too small hopefully when they do do the brand change they will manage to fit their logo of the actual size...


Also hey there SE CZ, I am from Prague
[ This Message was edited by: adsada on 2011-12-13 22:19 ]


Posted by SE cz
Just STOP posting here "shit" about non real SE phones plz, this is not Concept thread, thank U all.

@adsada: cuss, Opava

Posted by king-james
I hope this is really a f**kin concept!! Cause its looking so horrible shitty. Has nothing to do with SonyStyle!

Posted by Legen
I kinda like it. Have always like the sony minimalistic design. No clutter. And paired with the rumored specs, its a good phone. Here's to hoping its real.
On another note, design is weird. How would it sit on a flat surface? The top would be slanted away from you...

Posted by pavlov's_dog
uhmm. why do people insist that these are mere concepts? they are obviously real phones or at least real dummy phones. the attention to detail is just superb.

Posted by Karun

On 2011-12-13 20:00:28, rog wrote:

On 2011-12-13 04:06:14, Karun wrote:
Love your little tidbits of info. But is the non removable battery and microsim confirmed?


I wouldn't call it non-removable. Maybe not-so-easy-removable is more appropriate



I think that this device is better than it seems atm, right rog?


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