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• Ericsson R380
• Ericsson R520
• Ericsson R600
• Ericsson T29s
• Ericsson T39
• Ericsson T60d
• Sony Xperia A
• Sony Xperia Acro S
• Sony Xperia Advance
• Sony Xperia C
• Sony Xperia E
• Sony Xperia E Dual
• Sony Xperia E1
• Sony Xperia E1 Dual
• Sony Xperia Ion LT28at
• Sony Xperia J
• Sony Xperia L
• Sony Xperia M2
• Sony Xperia Miro
• Sony Xperia Neo L
• Sony Xperia P
• Sony Xperia S
• Sony Xperia SL
• Sony Xperia Sola
• Sony Xperia SP
• Sony Xperia SX
• Sony Xperia T
• Sony Xperia T2 Ultra
• Sony Xperia Tipo
• Sony Xperia Tipo Dual
• Sony Xperia TL
• Sony Xperia TX
• Sony Xperia U
• Sony Xperia V
• Sony Xperia VL
• Sony Xperia Z
• Sony Xperia Z Ultra
• Sony Xperia Z1
• Sony Xperia Z1 Compact
• Sony Xperia Z2
• Sony Xperia ZL
• Sony Xperia ZQ
• Sony Xperia ZR

The All New Sony Ericsson Portfolio for 2011


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Posted by aamwng
Hopefully a battery race, 3000mAh anyone?
[ This Message was edited by: aamwng on 2011-11-16 13:11 ]



Posted by lewko
Why do you need Quad core in phone? and 4.7 inch screen? HTC Sensation XL is already not fitting in a pocket..
4.2-4.3 is max...
Apple is still top gamer on the market with 3.5 inches..., dual core released only a month ago... so what is all the fuzz about?

Bring me Nozomi with that sleek design and fantastic transparent led bottom strip to customize the notifications with a dual core and ICS. That is all that is needed for 2012.

As for the MP hunt in cameras. It is not the MP that makes the photo-quality alone! Make a bigger lens and better optics, to pack in a bigger sensor! The back of 4.2 inch screen sized phones offers a lot of space to use. You can add some "mm" in thickness too... once it starts shooting photos like Satio, people will happily sacrifice the more bulky back!


Posted by bambarah
Sony Ericsson details the ICS update for the Xperia lineup

Posted by smclion102

On 2011-11-16 17:13:49, bambarah wrote:
Sony Ericsson details the ICS update for the Xperia lineup

Old news bro..
Hopefully ICS comes faster than others

Posted by Ricky D
@lewko
Bigger screen I can live without but the faster more CPU is a must. I want to run my phone as a computer through my tv, that needs computing power. I want to run a portable web server for development from my phone over WiFi to my network, that requires computing power. If I want to make phone calls and text only I'd stick with my K610 or T650 or that myself to the Xperia Pureness.

Posted by Karun
We've only been hearing about Nozomi. What about the other device? Any specs related info?
Btw...its been confirmed that the htc device is just a concept

Posted by nikos_se
It was pretty given that it was just a concept.A phone with 4.5" screen,measuring 109x60x10??It's quite impossible these days.However,i do believe that we might see htc using quad-core krait by the end of 2012.The important thing for is to not go with a scorpion-based cpu,and use something newer,faster and more energy efficient.I dont care if that's gonna be cortex a9/cortex a15 or krait,as long as they show that they've learned their lesson from this year.

Posted by lolstebbo

On 2011-11-16 11:50:14, Ricky D wrote:
There is always a need for more powerful CPUs, GPUs and more Ram. It's what enables developers to develop more powerful software for a given platform. Otherwise you end up in a chicken and egg scenario. One has to come first.


Come on. More powerful CPUs/GPUs and more RAM enable developers to be lazier and make their applications more bloated than they need to be since the theory is the devices are more powerful and therefore can handle a more bloated program. Eventually, the rate of software laziness will outpace the actual rate of technological progress; an evidence of such would be Mac OS X 10.6 and Windows 7 being efforts by Apple and Microsoft respectively to reduce the size of the OS, streamlining processes, and increasing the efficiency of core APIs.

Furthermore, while S3 and S4 smartphones are becoming more and more powerful, low-end and mid-range S1 and S2 smartphones (which are the ones sold in larger volumes generally) are running on architectures that have been largely unchanged over the past 2-3 years (the 2011 Xperia phones run on S2); not only are the S1 and S2 architectures older, they're also not changing (Qualcomm announced new S1 chips, but they're the same core clocked at faster speeds and they're still pared with the Adreno 200 GPU). As the gap between S1 and S4 phones further widens, the Android fragmentation issue will actually become worse as developers focus on the attention-grabbing high-end devices instead of the volume-selling low-end devices.
[ This Message was edited by: lolstebbo on 2011-11-16 21:15 ]


Posted by nagirodu
Sony Ericsson LT26i might not be the Nozomi, but a mid-range handset???

http://www.phonearena.com/new[....]ut-a-mid-range-handset_id23853

Posted by SE cz

On 2011-11-17 14:10:14, nagirodu wrote:
Sony Ericsson LT26i might not be the Nozomi, but a mid-range handset???

http://www.phonearena.com/new[....]ut-a-mid-range-handset_id23853


... they prefer it updated

Posted by aamwng
LT28i with super low benchmark

http://sevodoi.blogspot.com/2[....]n-sony-ericsson-lt28i-ang.html

Posted by rog
I think I will never get it why people bother about

a) benchmarks in general, and
b) especially benchmarks of unreleased prototype phones



Posted by aamwng
1) Geeks care . As if a geeky person is just going to look for a phone with a low bench. It is also one way for the company to sell their product. Since SE is failing in this department, fans will obviously try and ignore it. I know real life performance is more important, but real life performance is sort of linked to the benchmark of the phone.

2) Looking at benchmark of the prototype phone is like reading about myths, just take it as a pinch of salt. The benchmark will change, mostly higher, but it indicates how well the phone will do.

Take it as a pinch of salt, some people love looking at things like that, don't flame!

Posted by rog
Wasn't meant to be a flame. I just don't understand it

Posted by Dups!

On 2011-11-17 20:40:04, rog wrote:
Wasn't meant to be a flame. I just don't understand it



It actually didn't come across as though you were flaming, I thought it was a valid point about people's preoccupation with benchmarks on prototypes ignoring real world usage.

Posted by randomuser
Not bashing or anything but its funny how in the past 2 years Samsung and have almost been opposite of each other.

Galaxy S/S2 best Android flagship unbeaten , ahead of competition. And Xperia X10/Arc worst Android flagship outdated even before they launched. The trend looks to continue into 2012 with Galaxy S3/Nozomi

Posted by adsada

On 2011-11-18 13:48:18, randomuser wrote:
Not bashing or anything but its funny how in the past 2 years Samsung and have almost been opposite of each other.

Galaxy S/S2 best Android flagship unbeaten , ahead of competition. And Xperia X10/Arc worst Android flagship outdated even before they launched. The trend looks to continue into 2012 with Galaxy S3/Nozomi



Not quite true, the Xpeira X10 and Galaxy S has pretty similar specs to each other and actually the X10 had a far better 8MP camera with flash, the S on the other hand only had 5MP. The only issue with the X10 was the low version of android (1.6) but SE have learnt from this mistake and are making up for it massively.

Posted by randomuser

On 2011-11-18 14:01:43, adsada wrote:

On 2011-11-18 13:48:18, randomuser wrote:
Not bashing or anything but its funny how in the past 2 years Samsung and have almost been opposite of each other.

Galaxy S/S2 best Android flagship unbeaten , ahead of competition. And Xperia X10/Arc worst Android flagship outdated even before they launched. The trend looks to continue into 2012 with Galaxy S3/Nozomi



Not quite true, the Xpeira X10 and Galaxy S has pretty similar specs to each other and actually the X10 had a far better 8MP camera with flash, the S on the other hand only had 5MP. The only issue with the X10 was the low version of android (1.6) but SE have learnt from this mistake and are making up for it massively.



Not really. Galaxy S hummingbird chipset was the best and most powerful single core CPU whereas X10 only had a first gen 1 ghz Qualcomm snapdragon. Galaxy S was the best and most powerful smartphone in 2010 and the X10 was the least desired flagship phone. Outdated OS version, 384mb RAM, 1st gen Snapdragon and a not so impressive screen.

Samsung hummingbird is the only single core CPU that can decode 1080p videos. And now the Exynos continues the legacy being the only dual core chipset currently that can playback 1080p web flash videos in the browser whereas all others including Nvidia Tegra2, Qualcomm 8260/8660, TI OMAP 4430/4460 struggle with even 720p. Even most netbooks cannot play 1080p flash videos.
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2011-11-18 14:21 ]


Posted by HxH

On 2011-11-18 15:20:32, randomuser wrote:

On 2011-11-18 14:01:43, adsada wrote:

On 2011-11-18 13:48:18, randomuser wrote:
Not bashing or anything but its funny how in the past 2 years Samsung and have almost been opposite of each other.

Galaxy S/S2 best Android flagship unbeaten , ahead of competition. And Xperia X10/Arc worst Android flagship outdated even before they launched. The trend looks to continue into 2012 with Galaxy S3/Nozomi



Not quite true, the Xpeira X10 and Galaxy S has pretty similar specs to each other and actually the X10 had a far better 8MP camera with flash, the S on the other hand only had 5MP. The only issue with the X10 was the low version of android (1.6) but SE have learnt from this mistake and are making up for it massively.



Not really. Galaxy S hummingbird chipset was the best and most powerful single core CPU whereas X10 only had a first gen 1 ghz Qualcomm snapdragon. Galaxy S was the best and most powerful smartphone in 2010 and the X10 was the least desired flagship phone. Outdated OS version, 384mb RAM, 1st gen Snapdragon and a not so impressive screen.

Samsung hummingbird is the only single core CPU that can decode 1080p videos. And now the Exynos continues the legacy being the only dual core chipset currently that can playback 1080p web flash videos in the browser whereas all others including Nvidia Tegra2, Qualcomm 8260/8660, TI OMAP 4430/4460 struggle with even 720p. Even most netbooks cannot play 1080p flash videos.
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2011-11-18 14:21 ]



Yes, it's fact!

Posted by nikos_se
Yes,galaxy S was a much better smartphone than xperia x10,however the reason is that it was developed 6 months after the x10.Let's not forget that xperia x10,had its specs finalized by June 2009,while Galaxy S started its development around Sep-Nov '09.Still the main reason x10 failed was its outdated version of Android,the initial lack of multitouch,and its uninspiring screen.Now,about xperia arc vs galaxy s2,their main difference was on the processor/ram,in a lot of areas it was a draw(camera,screen,connectivity),while in some other areas arc was better(design,ui).Plus,the arc costs around 100-120eur less than the s2.I just hope next year until sony takes over, will use the latest processors available,and will not continue using older processors than competition.

Posted by randomuser

On 2011-11-18 17:36:47, nikos_se wrote:
Yes,galaxy S was a much better smartphone than xperia x10,however the reason is that it was developed 6 months after the x10.Let's not forget that xperia x10,had its specs finalized by June 2009,while Galaxy S started its development around Sep-Nov '09.Still the main reason x10 failed was its outdated version of Android,the initial lack of multitouch,and its uninspiring screen.Now,about xperia arc vs galaxy s2,their main difference was on the processor/ram,in a lot of areas it was a draw(camera,screen,connectivity),while in some other areas arc was better(design,ui).Plus,the arc costs around 100-120eur less than the s2.I just hope next year until sony takes over, will use the latest processors available,and will not continue using older processors than competition.


I don't see any change going by the leaks so far Nozomi is said to have the 8260 Qualcomm and I have lost hope that it will have anything better. Also another reason why I think will not use a more powerful CPU is as someone mentioned in the chinese forums next year as well is going to use one single platform across all its devices - high, mid and low end. All dual core.
Only ROG can tell us the truth
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2011-11-19 03:43 ]


Posted by Dups!
I am with randomuser on (the) Nozomi processor, unless they are testing multiple Nozomis with different processors but going by SE's recent history I have my doubts.

I still wish for a decent processor cause I am quite intrigued by that leak, particularly about the potential for the application ofthe LED around the phone.



Posted by Legen
What worries me is that sony(ericsson) will be behind once again. While other phone makers are rocking quadcore they will be only releasing dualcore. Some might argue "android not fully utilising all cores" but i think they(sonyericsson) need to keep with the times
[ This Message was edited by: Legen on 2011-11-19 06:54 ]


Posted by lolstebbo

On 2011-11-19 07:53:16, Legen wrote:
What worries me is that sony(ericsson) will be behind once again. While other phone makers are rocking quadcore they will be only releasing dualcore. Some might argue "android not fully utilising all cores" but i think they(sonyericsson) need to keep with the times
[ This Message was edited by: Legen on 2011-11-19 06:54 ]



The other thing to consider is SE's approach to their product line this year; it's fair to assume Sony will continue this year's strategy, considering how, especially on an operational level, successful it was. Sure, none of this years XPERIAs were the most powerful or the most outrageously-spec'd. However, SE has, this year, been the most committed to keeping up with software updates (and they've done a good job of it when you consider a lot of the 2.3.# releases from Google were bug fixes for the Nexus S and therefore are more or less irrelevant for other phones). Their strategy also makes them much stronger in the low-end and highly competitive in the mid-range; these two segments are what sells more. Their flagship is a design one, not a performance one. And this year it's worked out more or less fine.

Posted by randomuser

On 2011-11-19 09:55:36, lolstebbo wrote:

On 2011-11-19 07:53:16, Legen wrote:
What worries me is that sony(ericsson) will be behind once again. While other phone makers are rocking quadcore they will be only releasing dualcore. Some might argue "android not fully utilising all cores" but i think they(sonyericsson) need to keep with the times
[ This Message was edited by: Legen on 2011-11-19 06:54 ]



The other thing to consider is SE's approach to their product line this year; it's fair to assume Sony will continue this year's strategy, considering how, especially on an operational level, successful it was. Sure, none of this years XPERIAs were the most powerful or the most outrageously-spec'd. However, SE has, this year, been the most committed to keeping up with software updates (and they've done a good job of it when you consider a lot of the 2.3.# releases from Google were bug fixes for the Nexus S and therefore are more or less irrelevant for other phones). Their strategy also makes them much stronger in the low-end and highly competitive in the mid-range; these two segments are what sells more. Their flagship is a design one, not a performance one. And this year it's worked out more or less fine.


Unfortunately not. 2011 android market share has dropped drastically from 2010 when they only had the X10 and the X10 minis.

Posted by adsada
To be fair, up until about the start of Q3 of this year the only phones on the market were the Xperia arc, neo and PLAY which was due to the floods in Japan. Last year they also had more low range handsets like the cedar, elm, spiro etc. which also made up a greater amount of there total shipping amount. I would wait until 2011 is over to judge the figures from this year because I would be surprised if a range of well priced handsets (the PLAY and mini pro have drastically dropped in price) in the Q4 results were anything but good.


Posted by HxH
It's not flood but Earthquake and followed by Tsunami crushed into some of those Japanese industrial area which included Sony mobile camera & screen factory as well!
[ This Message was edited by: HxH on 2011-11-19 12:59 ]


Posted by adsada
That's what the media calls it though so that has kind of stuck
[ This Message was edited by: adsada on 2011-11-19 13:11 ]


Posted by hhlong89

On 2011-11-19 14:10:29, adsada wrote:
That's what the media calls it though so that has kind of stuck
[ This Message was edited by: adsada on 2011-11-19 13:11 ]



Sony Ericsson MT18i with CPU 1.4 GHz

Source: sevodoi.blogspot.com

Posted by hhlong89

On 2011-11-19 16:43:25, hhlong89 wrote:

On 2011-11-19 14:10:29, adsada wrote:
That's what the media calls it though so that has kind of stuck
[ This Message was edited by: adsada on 2011-11-19 13:11 ]



Sony Ericsson MT18i with CPU 1.4 GHz

Source: sevodoi.blogspot.com


UAProf of Sony Ericsson MT27i, LT26i, LT28at, ST25i



Source: sevodoi.blogspot.com

Posted by randomuser

On 2011-11-20 03:14:07, hhlong89 wrote:

On 2011-11-19 16:43:25, hhlong89 wrote:

On 2011-11-19 14:10:29, adsada wrote:
That's what the media calls it though so that has kind of stuck
[ This Message was edited by: adsada on 2011-11-19 13:11 ]



Sony Ericsson MT18i with CPU 1.4 GHz

Source: sevodoi.blogspot.com


UAProf of Sony Ericsson MT27i, LT26i, LT28at, ST25i



Source: sevodoi.blogspot.com



Cortex A8 CPU. Qualcomm first gen dual core. I really don't understand why is doing this ? Why do they not want to compete with other brands with a true high end model ? Sure this Qualcomm 1st gen dual core CPU will be great in the entry level and mid range devices but its going to be horribly outdated in the Nozomi.
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2011-11-20 04:11 ]


Posted by HxH
Every Qualcomm Snapdragon chip is based on Cortex A8 Architecture even Krait 28nm, that's why I start do not like them. Old technology Sell Expensive.

While those competitor using Cortex A9 architecture : ST-Ericsson NovaThor / Nvidia Tegra / Samsung Exynos / TI OMAP 4. Look into these benchmark tests , where Qualcomm had been left in dust. And will be even worse in next year because Samsung might goes for Cortex A7 (IMHO - it could be 2013 model because Samsung already announced Exynos 4212 which is manufactured at 32nm already) recently announced and OMAP 5 is Cortex A15 ready!






http://blog.gsmarena.com/sams[....]rmance-in-ice-cream-sandwich/" TARGET="_blank" rel="nofollow">Refer
[ This Message was edited by: HxH on 2011-11-20 09:59 ]


Posted by SE cz
Short overview of new UA profiles (2012 portfolio):

LT22i (resolution 960x540 pixels): http://www.sonyericsson.com/5761/UAProf/LT22iR601.xml
LT26i (resolution 1280x720 pixels): http://www.sonyericsson.com/5761/UAProf/LT26iR601.xml
LT28at (resolution 720x1280 pixels): http://www.sonyericsson.com/5761/UAProf/LT28atR601.xml
MT27i (resolution 480x854 pixels): http://www.sonyericsson.com/5761/UAProf/MT27iR601.xml
ST25i (resolution 480x854 pixels): http://www.sonyericsson.com/5761/UAProf/ST25iR601.xml

btw.: note that resolution of display, first number mean width and second one height, as U see there is clear-cut distinction between LT22i+LT26i and the rest. Interesting resolution has LT22i, it is very closely same as PlayStation VITA (960x544).
[ This Message was edited by: SE cz on 2011-11-20 20:10 ]


Posted by kewsvnet

On 2011-11-20 20:42:22, SE cz wrote:
Short overview of new UA profiles (2012 portfolio):

LT22i (resolution 960x540 pixels): http://www.sonyericsson.com/5761/UAProf/LT22iR601.xml
LT26i (resolution 1280x720 pixels): http://www.sonyericsson.com/5761/UAProf/LT26iR601.xml
LT28at (resolution 720x1280 pixels): http://www.sonyericsson.com/5761/UAProf/LT28atR601.xml
MT27i (resolution 480x854 pixels): http://www.sonyericsson.com/5761/UAProf/MT27iR601.xml
ST25i (resolution 480x854 pixels): http://www.sonyericsson.com/5761/UAProf/ST25iR601.xml

btw.: note that resolution of display, first number mean width and second one height, as U see there is clear-cut distinction between LT22i+LT26i and the rest. Interesting resolution has LT22i, it is very closely same as PlayStation VITA (960x544).
[ This Message was edited by: SE cz on 2011-11-20 20:10 ]



so two of the phones are designed to be wide orientation...or they are actually tablets!! was really looking forward to seeing at least one codename to have a K there SK25i or MK27i...would like to have a nice successor for the mini pro!

Posted by lolstebbo

On 2011-11-20 20:42:22, SE cz wrote:
Short overview of new UA profiles (2012 portfolio):

LT22i (resolution 960x540 pixels): http://www.sonyericsson.com/5761/UAProf/LT22iR601.xml
LT26i (resolution 1280x720 pixels): http://www.sonyericsson.com/5761/UAProf/LT26iR601.xml
LT28at (resolution 720x1280 pixels): http://www.sonyericsson.com/5761/UAProf/LT28atR601.xml
MT27i (resolution 480x854 pixels): http://www.sonyericsson.com/5761/UAProf/MT27iR601.xml
ST25i (resolution 480x854 pixels): http://www.sonyericsson.com/5761/UAProf/ST25iR601.xml

btw.: note that resolution of display, first number mean width and second one height, as U see there is clear-cut distinction between LT22i+LT26i and the rest. Interesting resolution has LT22i, it is very closely same as PlayStation VITA (960x544).
[ This Message was edited by: SE cz on 2011-11-20 20:10 ]



ST25i with an FWVGA screen? Are they moving the Mini up to the Ray's size?!?

Posted by SE cz

On 2011-11-20 21:44:27, kewsvnet wrote:

On 2011-11-20 20:42:22, SE cz wrote:
Short overview of new UA profiles (2012 portfolio):

LT22i (resolution 960x540 pixels): http://www.sonyericsson.com/5761/UAProf/LT22iR601.xml
LT26i (resolution 1280x720 pixels): http://www.sonyericsson.com/5761/UAProf/LT26iR601.xml
LT28at (resolution 720x1280 pixels): http://www.sonyericsson.com/5761/UAProf/LT28atR601.xml
MT27i (resolution 480x854 pixels): http://www.sonyericsson.com/5761/UAProf/MT27iR601.xml
ST25i (resolution 480x854 pixels): http://www.sonyericsson.com/5761/UAProf/ST25iR601.xml

btw.: note that resolution of display, first number mean width and second one height, as U see there is clear-cut distinction between LT22i+LT26i and the rest. Interesting resolution has LT22i, it is very closely same as PlayStation VITA (960x544).



so two of the phones are designed to be wide orientation...or they are actually tablets!! was really looking forward to seeing at least one codename to have a K there SK25i or MK27i...would like to have a nice successor for the mini pro!


That note was just only note, becouse in all other profiles it is right (width x height). As U see LT26i is not designed to be wide orientation, it is 720x1280 not 1280x720:


[ This Message was edited by: SE cz on 2011-11-20 21:23 ]


Posted by mustafabay
1280X720 = 720p = resolution of Galaxy Nexus. Why assume tablet?

Posted by Bonovox
Is this Nozomi still coming out?? Will it be rje last SE device?? Or will it be under Sony name??

Posted by smclion102

On 2011-11-21 02:10:00, Bonovox wrote:
Is this Nozomi still coming out?? Will it be rje last SE device?? Or will it be under Sony name??



50 MORE DAYS FOR CES we will get to know most of the stuff that day Fingers Crossed

Posted by Legen

On 2011-11-21 11:29:14, smclion102 wrote:

On 2011-11-21 02:10:00, Bonovox wrote:
Is this Nozomi still coming out?? Will it be rje last SE device?? Or will it be under Sony name??



50 MORE DAYS FOR CES we will get to know most of the stuff that day Fingers Crossed


Sounds so soon when you put it that way

Posted by motvikt
http://phandroid.com/2011/11/[....]snapdragon-s4-and-qhd-display/

Seriously I understand if HTC gets a phone with krait out on the market faster than SE, but ASUS too? WTF?

Posted by Bonovox

On 2011-11-21 11:29:14, smclion102 wrote:

On 2011-11-21 02:10:00, Bonovox wrote:
Is this Nozomi still coming out?? Will it be rje last SE device?? Or will it be under Sony name??



50 MORE DAYS FOR CES we will get to know most of the stuff that day Fingers Crossed


Ok cool

Posted by kewsvnet

On 2011-11-20 07:10:49, HxH wrote:
Every Qualcomm Snapdragon chip is based on Cortex A8 Architecture even Krait 28nm, that's why I start do not like them. Old technology Sell Expensive.

While those competitor using Cortex A9 architecture : ST-Ericsson NovaThor / Nvidia Tegra / Samsung Exynos / TI OMAP 4. Look into these benchmark tests , where Qualcomm had been left in dust. And will be even worse in next year because Samsung might goes for Cortex A7 (IMHO - it could be 2013 model because Samsung already announced Exynos 4212 which is manufactured at 32nm already) recently announced and OMAP 5 is Cortex A15 ready!


from what I can see krait only uses the cortex-a8 instruction set...not the architecture! infact its architecture is meant to be better than A9 and probably comparable to A15...and considering it is about the only 28nm chipset available currently...should offer pretty good power efficiency...not to mention its cores are asynchronous so it can switch one off if not needed...the only thing that isnt too great is the GPU! so unless u want hardcore gaming it should offer pretty good performance in my opinion. its not always about the number of cores! and also this should improve power efficiency now all I wish is that (sony) use LED for screens which would give even better power efficiency...and the new phones should have much better batt life!!!!

Android Authority
The new S4 is based on a completely new architecture called Krait (more like the jump from Cortex A9 to Cortex A15 than the one from Cortex A8 to Cortex A9) that is also manufactured at the smallest processing node so far for ARM chips–28 nm.

AnandTech
Scorpion was Qualcomm's first Snapdragon CPU architecture. At a high level, it looked very much like an optimized ARM Cortex A8 design although the two had nothing in common outside of instruction set.

Qualcomm lengthened Krait's integer pipeline slightly from 10 stages in Scorpion to 11 stages in Krait. Load/store operations tack on another two cycles and instructions that go through the Neon/VFP path further lengthen the pipe. ARM's Cortex A15 design by comparison features a 15-stage integer pipeline. Qualcomm's design does contain more custom logic than ARM's stock A15, which has typically given it a clock speed advantage. The A15's deeper pipeline should give it a clock speed advantage as well. Whether the two effectively cancel each other out remains to be seen.

Posted by aamwng
http://www.phonearena.com/new[....]-announced-at-CES-2012_id23938

Posted by adsada


Hmmm...this could be a very interesting strategy, if in 2012, they have their high end 'new' phones, but also drop the price of their 2011 phones and continue to sell them as mid range or even low end phones?? I could see the cheap one like walkan mix £50, the mini range dropping as far down as £80? the neo/pro around £150 mark and the ray and arc s as £200?

Posted by aamwng
Xperiablog is back on!!!

Spread the news
[ This Message was edited by: aamwng on 2011-11-21 22:32 ]


Posted by nikos_se
If sony ericsson dual-core phones USE are based on scorpion cpu and not krait,it will be a big fail!!!I just hope that they have realised that and the test units that are around the web are just reference devices,with not finalized hardware.(fingers crossed xD)

Posted by DACHA

On 2011-11-22 00:02:01, nikos_se wrote:
If sony ericsson dual-core phones USE are based on scorpion cpu and not krait,it will be a big fail!!!I just hope that they have realised that and the test units that are around the web are just reference devices,with not finalized hardware.(fingers crossed xD)


This is from unknown13x

What's wrong with a first gen dual core? Second gen demo won't even go to manufacturers til Q4 2011, which is barely RIGHT NOW. Product development can't even start til RIGHT NOW...Check if you wish. For those who are bashing already, might want to check your facts before posting...SE is already onboard with Qualcomm, so they're using whatever resource Qualcomm give them (Please, don't bring in the argument of the PS Vita, up until this point, they were separate companies)

They will use scorpio cpu.

Posted by nikos_se
Firstly, if they knew that they couldnt use krait,and they had to use scorpion,they should had moved to ti omap 4-series or tegra3 ,which is better than dual-core scorpion.Plus,lets see what the competition will use for their smartphones.I suspect that HTC will come with dual-core krait,before the end of Q1.Even if krait started sampling in Nov '11,there're still 5 months to go until March '12,which is usually the timeframe SE launches products.I'd rather see a device being pushed back a month or so,and be as good as competition,than been stuck with last-gen processors for the rest of the year.Anyone care to argue??

Posted by DACHA

On 2011-11-22 00:57:59, nikos_se wrote:
Firstly, if they knew that they couldnt use krait,and they had to use scorpion,they should had moved to ti omap 4-series or tegra3 ,which is better than dual-core scorpion.Plus,lets see what the competition will use for their smartphones.I suspect that HTC will come with dual-core krait,before the end of Q1.Even if krait started sampling in Nov '11,there're still 5 months to go until March '12,which is usually the timeframe SE launches products.I'd rather see a device being pushed back a month or so,and be as good as competition,than been stuck with last-gen processors for the rest of the year.Anyone care to argue??


It was sampled in July

http://androidandme.com/2011/[....]8nm-device-this-calendar-year/


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