Posted by FMW300
What about this pic that surfaced in June? Was it completely fake or cancelled or what?
On 2011-06-17 23:57:02, SIC87 wrote:
new pic duo with arc
Posted by Karun
On 2011-11-08 00:29:31, pauvincent wrote:
don't people learn? Last year before the arc was released it was running on 800mhz then when it was announced it turned to 1ghz same case with nozomi upon release the procesor will probably change
[ This Message was edited by: pauvincent on 2011-11-07 23:33,]
Precisely. So the 1.5ghz spec might change. So no point speculating till we atleast know the correct clock speed.
Posted by pauvincent
On 2011-11-08 01:21:07, NightBlade wrote:
On 2011-11-08 00:29:31, pauvincent wrote:
don't people learn? Last year before the arc was released it was running on 800mhz then when it was announced it turned to 1ghz same case with nozomi upon release the procesor will probably change
That's all very nice and well, but what should have happened is that they should have doubled the cores as well.
They didn't.
And they won't this time either.
What I meant was this will not be the final specs not the clock speed their would be changes before announcement like the arc
[ This Message was edited by: pauvincent on 2011-11-08 02:08 ]
Posted by randomuser
On 2011-11-08 03:03:51, pauvincent wrote:
On 2011-11-08 01:21:07, NightBlade wrote:
On 2011-11-08 00:29:31, pauvincent wrote:
don't people learn? Last year before the arc was released it was running on 800mhz then when it was announced it turned to 1ghz same case with nozomi upon release the procesor will probably change
That's all very nice and well, but what should have happened is that they should have doubled the cores as well.
They didn't.
And they won't this time either.
What I meant was this will not be the final specs not the clock speed their would be changes before announcement like the arc
[ This Message was edited by: pauvincent on 2011-11-08 02:08 ]
Whatever might be the clock speed it is turning out be the same story as this year. Sub par hardware, months behind the competition. I really do not understand why
did not learn a lesson this year ?????
Posted by yuunanase
Agreed, the do not have the best hardware for the top end phones (arc), but they definitely have the best hardware for mid and low end phones (mini, live w/ walkman). All
, or now sony need is the phone module in the PS Vita, and there we have a quad core phone ahead of HTC.
On 2011-11-08 04:24:12, randomuser wrote:
On 2011-11-08 03:03:51, pauvincent wrote:
On 2011-11-08 01:21:07, NightBlade wrote:
On 2011-11-08 00:29:31, pauvincent wrote:
don't people learn? Last year before the arc was released it was running on 800mhz then when it was announced it turned to 1ghz same case with nozomi upon release the procesor will probably change
That's all very nice and well, but what should have happened is that they should have doubled the cores as well.
They didn't.
And they won't this time either.
What I meant was this will not be the final specs not the clock speed their would be changes before announcement like the arc
[ This Message was edited by: pauvincent on 2011-11-08 02:08 ]
Whatever might be the clock speed it is turning out be the same story as this year. Sub par hardware, months behind the competition. I really do not understand why
did not learn a lesson this year ?????
Posted by aamwng
There is a LT28at (said to be for AT&T in US) and a ST25i
https://picasaweb.google.com/[....]gpCE2sbWUdSbJIA?full-exif=true
https://picasaweb.google.com/[....]SeyNdXxZPLuxLaA?full-exif=true
https://picasaweb.google.com/[....]aY4peSyvsSfpf1A?full-exif=true
Posted by koss
Such ugly photos... with same awful quality like ARC.. sony (ericsson) will fail next year... HTC is making progress in camera deparment.. samsung same.. apple same... motorola same... Sony will fail down in camera capabilities with such awful pics.. EVen are prototypes phones.... quality of camera samples is toooo awful. I'm waiting for two years to buy a sonyericcson device but now I am 80% convinced that I will buy htc or samsung or iphone next year..
Posted by Dups!
On 2011-11-08 13:24:26, koss wrote:
Such ugly photos... with same awful quality like ARC.. sony (ericsson) will fail next year... HTC is making progress in camera deparment.. samsung same.. apple same... motorola same... Sony will fail down in camera capabilities with such awful pics.. EVen are prototypes phones.... quality of camera samples is toooo awful. I'm waiting for two years to buy a sonyericcson device but now I am 80% convinced that I will buy htc or samsung or iphone next year..
HTC are rubbish at camera performance and haven't changed much over the years, the improvement aren't worth mentioning IMO. Motorola, well, they have always been the follower and haven't even done well as decent followers to the leaders. The only really good Moto in the camera stakes was the ZN5, I wonder how much influence Kodak has had on that device since after that they have pretty much reverted back to their old dull self.
Samsung, on the other hand, have always had the potential and have over the years translated that potential into some stunning camera phones. Some of those were actually better than SE's. Then there's Nokia, the reigning camera phones champions, their record speaks for itself.
Sony, I am sure will get back to the top in the camera phones challenge, having everything in-house will help them control everything now that they don't have to sabotage Ericsson
Let's also not forget that this is a Sony Ericsson phone and not a Sony one.
Anyway, I am considering getting this along the Razr and then ditching the one I am not happy with, or keep them both and use the best one while at other times I use the other. I guess there's something about owning the last phone of 'dead' manufacturer.
Hmm... this could also be the first phone of the 'new' manufacturer since it may be branded Sony.
I am really beginning to like this phone.
Posted by DACHA
Based on PhoneArena the HTC Amaze 4g has a better camera than the iPhone4s. About 4 months ago HTC changed the camera modules they use and it gave them a huge improvement in picture quality.
I would say that a lot of people have to high expectations for mobile cameras. There is no way that a cell phone camera is ever going to be as good as a point and shot camera.
Posted by HxH
Good to see HTC camera has a bit of improvement here, anyway only performed well under good light condition with exceptional details of picture, color tones and white balance still vastly need some major overhaul.
Look at iPhone 4S camera, it's outstanding performance from broad-daylight to night shot, I wonder that why Amaze 4G is over hype.
I hope to see next
camera software for xperia 2011 has bit lower noise-reduction as well as picture quality compression. And 2012 line-up should serious considered revamp lenses quality at first place along with bit more natural color tones.[ This Message was edited by: HxH on 2011-11-08 15:13 ]
Posted by koss
On 2011-11-08 15:57:04, DACHA wrote:
Based on PhoneArena the HTC Amaze 4g has a better camera than the iPhone4s. About 4 months ago HTC changed the camera modules they use and it gave them a huge improvement in picture quality.
I would say that a lot of people have to high expectations for mobile cameras. There is no way that a cell phone camera is ever going to be as good as a point and shot camera.
Q: WHY DIDN'T INCLUDE XPERIA ARC IN THAT COMPARATION?
A: BECOUSE COMPARED TO THOSE PHONE XPERIA ARC IS A DISASTER IN CAMERA
i'VE said before that xperia arc and iphone 4 don't share same sensor. Iphone 4 has a sensor developed by sony specially for apple !!! PLus lenses present on xperia 2011 family are plastic ones not glass ones present in c905 or k800 family.
Right now ipnone 4s is the king in smartphone mobile phone camera quality. I don't include here Nokia N8 becouse is software dead and has multiple hardware manufactures problems.
I am not a fan of apple brand but I recongnize that photos taken with iphone 4s are 5stars
[ This Message was edited by: koss on 2011-11-08 16:22 ]
Posted by DACHA
On 2011-11-08 17:17:48, koss wrote:
On 2011-11-08 15:57:04, DACHA wrote:
Based on PhoneArena the HTC Amaze 4g has a better camera than the iPhone4s. About 4 months ago HTC changed the camera modules they use and it gave them a huge improvement in picture quality.
I would say that a lot of people have to high expectations for mobile cameras. There is no way that a cell phone camera is ever going to be as good as a point and shot camera.
Q: WHY DIDN'T INCLUDE XPERIA ARC IN THAT COMPARATION?
A: BECOUSE COMPARED TO THOSE PHONE XPERIA ARC IS A DISASTER IN CAMERA
i'VE said before that xperia arc and iphone 4 don't share same sensor. Iphone 4 has a sensor developed by sony specially for apple !!! PLus lenses present on xperia 2011 family are plastic ones not glass ones present in c905 or k800 family.
Right now ipnone 4s is the king in smartphone mobile phone camera quality. I don't include here Nokia N8 becouse is software dead and has multiple hardware manufactures problems.
I am not a fan of apple brand but I recongnize that photos taken with iphone 4s are 5stars
[ This Message was edited by: koss on 2011-11-08 16:22 ]
When
was using Sony technology like cyber-shot and Walkman in their phones that is where they made the most profits. After 2008 they stopped to make good cyber-shot or Walkman phones and lost a lot of market. Hopefully now that Sony is in charge they will use more of the old proven technologies from Sony in the new Sony phones.
Posted by adsada
On 2011-11-08 17:42:09, DACHA wrote:
When
was using Sony technology like cyber-shot and Walkman in their phones that is where they made the most profits. After 2008 they stopped to make good cyber-shot or Walkman phones and lost a lot of market. Hopefully now that Sony is in charge they will use more of the old proven technologies from Sony in the new Sony phones.
Eh, let's be clear when the Cyber-shot and Walkman names were used in SE phones they were merely branding. Walkman phones has the exact same mediaplayer as other Cyber-shot phones around, with the addition of it being skinned and a maybe had a shortcut button to the mediaplayer. Granted Cyber-shot phones were more then that having a xenon flash and various camera features, but still the brand was the main part. They sold well because they were great to use, good designs and had a great marketing campaign.
And actually, the main reason they lost a lot of the market is because of these so called copycat Walkman and Cyber-shot java based phones which you speak so highly of, SE thought they could continue down this road and failed to notice the sudden uptake of smartphones. They've already tried to bring back the Walkman brand with pretty lowend smartphones but tbh I can't see much future for it as a phone brand even if Sony take it
Posted by goldenface
On 2011-11-08 17:17:48, koss wrote:
On 2011-11-08 15:57:04, DACHA wrote:
Based on PhoneArena the HTC Amaze 4g has a better camera than the iPhone4s. About 4 months ago HTC changed the camera modules they use and it gave them a huge improvement in picture quality.
I would say that a lot of people have to high expectations for mobile cameras. There is no way that a cell phone camera is ever going to be as good as a point and shot camera.
Q: WHY DIDN'T INCLUDE XPERIA ARC IN THAT COMPARATION?
A: BECOUSE COMPARED TO THOSE PHONE XPERIA ARC IS A DISASTER IN CAMERA
I'm guessing because the Arc isn't widely available in the US. Why would they include a phone in a review that hardly anyone would have.
Posted by moogoo
so true. sony ericsson isn't really marketed in the US. only the Xperia Play was somewhat marketed but even so, it wasn't on TV or in a ton of ads like other phones. Other than that, the X10 was the only other SE phone that was even displayed at the sony store.
Other than the play, i've never seen an SE commercial on TV. It's just not a huge brand in the states.
Posted by argiriano
On 2011-11-08 17:42:09, DACHA wrote:
When
was using Sony technology like cyber-shot and Walkman in their phones that is where they made the most profits. After 2008 they stopped to make good cyber-shot or Walkman phones and lost a lot of market. Hopefully now that Sony is in charge they will use more of the old proven technologies from Sony in the new Sony phones.
It may well be the other way around - Sony don`t want to make phone which will eat their point and shoot cameras share... just like Play shouldn't be a treat to PSP. Sony doesn't realize that others make big improvements in all departments, 'cause they already know that smartphone market is the most profitable nowadays. Samsung make SGS with no fear of this kind, even though they have camera devices too... they just implement all their best technologies in it and the result - millions sold. Samsung loosing big money in TV too, even though they sold more TV's than Sony, but that doesn`t stop them to use best screen tech in smartphones. Did you see the difference?
HTC strike a deal with Beats Audio, make improvements in camera department too, using latest hardware and develop devices twice as fast as
... ect.
Apple take the same Sony camera sensor and put better lenses in front of it, implement better software and the result is - lighting fast camera with pictures way much better than Arc.
Why
didn`t use:
- Sony OLED screens
- supreme Sony music technologies they have in Walkman products
- Carl Ziess lenses and software they have in Cyber-shot cameras
- cutting edge hardware (I`m sure if they wanted they would have had ST-Ericsson chips first and for less money than any other manufacturer just because Ericsson)
So why?
Politics. No, wrong politics. That`s why.
It will be very sad, when they do realize now that smartphone is the only way to be successful nowadays, and in the same time don`t put every best bit they have in it.
So I hope Sony will came up with some stunning device at the end of 2012 - a real flagship... or they will fail badly. Believe me. So fingers crossed.
Posted by Detox
Once again from unknown13x from XDA:
They're keeping the liquid identity for now. They are not dumping the SE logo for at least half a year before going all Sony. You'll see the new directions in CES I can tell you that.
Hmmm...
Posted by Karun
Last device with the brilliant SE logo? Heck I am interested!
Posted by motvikt
On 2011-11-09 11:05:52, argiriano wrote:
On 2011-11-08 17:42:09, DACHA wrote:
When
was using Sony technology like cyber-shot and Walkman in their phones that is where they made the most profits. After 2008 they stopped to make good cyber-shot or Walkman phones and lost a lot of market. Hopefully now that Sony is in charge they will use more of the old proven technologies from Sony in the new Sony phones.
It may well be the other way around - Sony don`t want to make phone which will eat their point and shoot cameras share... just like Play shouldn't be a treat to PSP. Sony doesn't realize that others make big improvements in all departments, 'cause they already know that smartphone market is the most profitable nowadays. Samsung make SGS with no fear of this kind, even though they have camera devices too... they just implement all their best technologies in it and the result - millions sold. Samsung loosing big money in TV too, even though they sold more TV's than Sony, but that doesn`t stop them to use best screen tech in smartphones. Did you see the difference?
HTC strike a deal with Beats Audio, make improvements in camera department too, using latest hardware and develop devices twice as fast as
... ect.
Apple take the same Sony camera sensor and put better lenses in front of it, implement better software and the result is - lighting fast camera with pictures way much better than Arc.
Why
didn`t use:
- Sony OLED screens
- supreme Sony music technologies they have in Walkman products
- Carl Ziess lenses and software they have in Cyber-shot cameras
- cutting edge hardware (I`m sure if they wanted they would have had ST-Ericsson chips first and for less money than any other manufacturer just because Ericsson)
So why?
Politics. No, wrong politics. That`s why.
It will be very sad, when they do realize now that smartphone is the only way to be successful nowadays, and in the same time don`t put every best bit they have in it.
So I hope Sony will came up with some stunning device at the end of 2012 - a real flagship... or they will fail badly. Believe me. So fingers crossed.
Exactly, and sadly I dont see this changing now when Sony is in charge. Lol, them having to much power was the problem to begin with
Posted by hydro-
What I want to know is, if we buy these Sony Ericsson phones now, will Sony keep us updated on the software front, or will they keep their focus on their own phones......
Posted by Detox
I don't think Sony is quite so stubborn that they would cut off their nose to spite their face.
Posted by SEC905
http://www.eisa.eu/award/52/european-camera-phone-2011-2012.html
Posted by pawfyd
On 2011-11-09 15:39:40, SEC905 wrote:
http://www.eisa.eu/award/52/european-camera-phone-2011-2012.html
Old news.
Posted by goldenface
A little bird tells me that the screen of 'Nozomi' will have the same matt screen as the Vaio Z series.
"The matte screens give you excellent horizontal and vertical viewing angles with vivid colors and deep blacks that are underlined by an extremely bright LED backlight giving you a perfectly readable screen regardless of your position."
akihabaranews Z Series Review
Posted by motvikt
On 2011-11-09 21:36:22, goldenface wrote:
A little bird tells me that the screen of 'Nozomi' will have the same matt screen as the Vaio Z series.
"The matte screens give you excellent horizontal and vertical viewing angles with vivid colors and deep blacks that are underlined by an extremely bright LED backlight giving you a perfectly readable screen regardless of your position."
akihabaranews Z Series Review
Woah! Very nice! The vaio Z screen is awesome
Posted by moogoo
woo hoo.. that would be very nice indeed. i'd also settle for the same gorgeous OLED screen as the walkman Z
Posted by smclion102
Nozomi announcement during CES 2012 -unknown13x
via
XDA
Posted by razec
Now that we have info/leaks on Nozomi where's Aoba? Sony couldn't just cancel it if it have similar HW as Nozomi
Posted by randomuser
On 2011-11-09 23:12:27, moogoo wrote:
woo hoo.. that would be very nice indeed. i'd also settle for the same gorgeous OLED screen as the walkman Z
Walkman Z has a 4.3 inch TFT LCD screen and not OLED. But yes is is indeed gorgeous and OLED like.
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2011-11-10 07:08 ]
Posted by goldenface
I have received an official email invite from Sony Ericsson asking me if I would like to go down to their HQ in Hammersmith and take part in a Q&A on how to further develop the Xperia Play.
Now, why would they send this out if the Xperia Play 2 was cancelled.
Posted by Angello
@ goldenface
whatever it is. I would go...
Posted by argiriano
On 2011-11-10 09:31:52, goldenface wrote:
I have received an official email invite from Sony Ericsson asking me if I would like to go down to their HQ in Hammersmith and take part in a Q&A on how to further develop the Xperia Play.
Now, why would they send this out if the Xperia Play 2 was cancelled.
Well if they just start to think how to develop it, it look like it is canceled after all.
Go there and say what we all think right here - all their best components and technologies in one device, plus replaceable QWERTY/Gamepad. It will be huge success in US market too, and that what Sony wants didn`t they.
Posted by cableguy
More Sony influence on SE as the Arc and Acro in Japan get playstation certified.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/[....]ria-arc-get-playstation-certi/
Posted by Ricky D
@goldenface
It's because the Play 2 that SE was working on was cancelled and Sony have ordered a redesign/redevelopment of the project.
(if you're collecting opinions:) I think Play 2 should have a bigger screen, best available CPU/RAM/battery. Aesthetics should be secondary to being an actual gaming device i.e. ditch the touch pad areas for proper analogue sticks even if it means the phone is a little bit uglier. If they're going to start dishing Playstation certified for non Sony family devices (as suggested) they need to make sure they're the top of their own game.
Posted by motvikt
I think the play2 is canceled and they wanna make the play live longer. The problem is that mobile gaming will take over. In time it will probably take over consoles also, just imagine plugging your phone into the tv and use a wireless controller. It will happen only in a few years from now, maybe even starting next year.
Sony is betting on the wrong horse. They should cancel Vita, it will be a huge flop, and instead invest in mobile gaming, the future. But they wont, they will try to battle iphone and android gaming hard as they always do when a new thing comes (like mp3). When you see the speed in which mobile handsets evolve, play3 would already be better than Vita and probably have better looking games and bigger ecosystem also. PSP and nintendo DS was made for a market that doesnt exist anymore, just look at the recent DS sales, iphone is totally taking over.
Its a shame, SE and Sony really had a great chance here. Taking the lead in handheld gaming. Instead Samsung or Apple will take the market from them. Maybe even microsoft, rumors about next xbox running on ARM and having tight mobile integration http://msnerd.tumblr.com/
http://www.theverge.com/2011/[....]hare-of-mobile-gaming-revenues
[ This Message was edited by: motvikt on 2011-11-10 11:35 ]
Posted by moogoo
On 2011-11-10 08:07:43, randomuser wrote:
On 2011-11-09 23:12:27, moogoo wrote:
woo hoo.. that would be very nice indeed. i'd also settle for the same gorgeous OLED screen as the walkman Z
Walkman Z has a 4.3 inch TFT LCD screen and not OLED. But yes is is indeed gorgeous and OLED like.
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2011-11-10 07:08 ]
Oops. i was thinking of the older walkman X. Shame they didn't keep the OLED going into the walkman Z. I'm not overly concerned which one it is, as long as it looks gorgeous (and Sony/SE have rarely disappointed on this point).
Posted by koss
Right now ipnone 4s is the king in smartphone mobile phone camera quality. I don't include here Nokia N8 becouse is software dead and has multiple hardware manufactures problems.
I am not a fan of apple brand but I recongnize that photos taken with iphone 4s are 5stars
like I said .. iphone is the best cameraphone today http://www.gsmarena.com/8mp_shootout_2011-review-673.php.
Second place is samsung galaxy s II.
Xperia Arc is in other category...
Even last sony tablets are a disaster in camera performances... even if they have 5 MP cameras..
Also I heard that next year sony will came on market with only 3 new phones only.
Sony will never learn from mistakes... so will have a pink future if they will do so..
[ This Message was edited by: koss on 2011-11-10 20:37 ]
Posted by yuunanase
On 2011-11-10 21:35:32, koss wrote:
Right now ipnone 4s is the king in smartphone mobile phone camera quality. I don't include here Nokia N8 becouse is software dead and has multiple hardware manufactures problems.
I am not a fan of apple brand but I recongnize that photos taken with iphone 4s are 5stars
like I said .. iphone is the best cameraphone today http://www.gsmarena.com/8mp_shootout_2011-review-673.php.
Second place is samsung galaxy s II.
Xperia Arc is in other category...
Even last sony tablets are a disaster in camera performances... even if they have 5 MP cameras..
Also I heard that next year sony will came on market with only 3 new phones only.
Sony will never learn from mistakes... so will have a pink future if they will do so..
[ This Message was edited by: koss on 2011-11-10 20:37 ]
There will be at least 5 phones next year
Posted by randomuser
On 2011-11-10 21:35:32, koss wrote:
Right now ipnone 4s is the king in smartphone mobile phone camera quality. I don't include here Nokia N8 becouse is software dead and has multiple hardware manufactures problems.
I am not a fan of apple brand but I recongnize that photos taken with iphone 4s are 5stars
like I said .. iphone is the best cameraphone today http://www.gsmarena.com/8mp_shootout_2011-review-673.php.
Second place is samsung galaxy s II.
Xperia Arc is in other category...
Even last sony tablets are a disaster in camera performances... even if they have 5 MP cameras..
Also I heard that next year sony will came on market with only 3 new phones only.
Sony will never learn from mistakes... so will have a pink future if they will do so..
[ This Message was edited by: koss on 2011-11-10 20:37 ]
Tablets are not meant to have great cameras. Nonetheless the Tablet S camera is the best camera on a tablet currentlly, by far. And this has been mentioned by every single review on the tablet that its camera is far superior to the competition.
Posted by Karun
The HTC ville will launch at MWC and will run on the 1.5GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon Series 4 (Krait) dual core processor. Perhaps we'll see the same in Nozomi?
Posted by Ricky D
On 2011-11-11 05:08:22, Karun wrote:
The HTC ville will launch at MWC and will run on the 1.5GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon Series 4 (Krait) dual core processor. Perhaps we'll see the same in Nozomi?
Don't hold your breath.
Posted by argiriano
On 2011-11-10 21:35:32, koss wrote:
Also I heard that next year sony will came on market with only 3 new phones only.
Oh come on, only devices in development has to be 3 or even more... we may suggest couple of
devices in H1 2012 and I`m sure there will be another bunch of devices in H2 2012 developed by Sony in house.
Posted by smclion102
Sony's CEO is ready to launch a four-screen platform
Sony's ability to pull its four screens (phones, tablets, PCs, TVs) together with network services like Video Unlimited and Music Unlimited .
Sony has finally begun to acknowledge its weaknesses in software and providing a uniform user experience, we'll probably find out more about how it plans to turn that around at CES 2012 in January.
Posted by goldenface
CES is going to be one hell of an event this time around, I can't wait.
So it sounds like there will be at least 5 devices from Sony / Sony Ericsson this year with no low-end entries?
Posted by smclion102
On 2011-11-11 12:30:03, goldenface wrote:
CES is going to be one hell of an event this time around, I can't wait.
So it sounds like there will be at least 5 devices from Sony / Sony Ericsson this year with no low-end entries?
All High end ??
or
You Mean RAY and ARC Type Phones? and No Mini/mini Pro type Phones??
Your Source?? for 5 sony devices ??
[ This Message was edited by: smclion102 on 2011-11-11 12:03 ]
Posted by yuunanase
Nope, so far, it seems that the prices for the new devices are evenly spread. On the top of the chain, its nozomi and aoba
Posted by Dups!
What of SE is Sony doing away with?
We know the logo is staying put until the transition is completed around next late next year. What about the Xperia trade name and the Timescape UI?
Would be interesting to find out where they stand on those.
Posted by Ricky D
So is Nozomi the natural successor to Arc and Aoba to Neo?
Going on the names alone I'd have put them the other way around (Arc => Aoba and Nozomi => Neo).
I'd like to see Sony keep the Xperia name for their mobile division, but I wouldn't bet on it, I would guess we can expect an entire rewrite with somethings going sooner than others.
Posted by adsada
The SE UK facebook page currently have someone answering questions, could be an opportunity to ask about the transition, or any phone issues you have
Posted by Dups!
On 2011-11-11 14:37:47, adsada wrote:
The SE UK facebook page currently have someone answering questions, could be an opportunity to ask about the transition, or any phone issues you have
I thought of asking but then realised that I will not get the answers to my questions. I am not going to enquire about a 'dead' SE but looking for answers regarding the future.
She'll most probably tell me to wait for next year.
This is good for those who are still needing info on SE.