Posted by HxH
ST-Ericsson already secured PowerVR the sixth generation licensed from Imagination, and it will leave SGX 5 in dust!
[ This Message was edited by: HxH on 2011-10-07 10:27 ]
Posted by stais
Google to launch Ice cream sandwich on tuesday
http://www.slashgear.com/ice-[....]pers-youtube-channel-06185985/
Worth hoping SE will actually announce an ICS powered device shortly after? Such as, at their Q3 report event? Or don't they ever do that?
Posted by argiriano
On 2011-10-07 10:58:43, randomuser wrote:
I guess now things are clear as to why Sony licensed more PowerVR SGX Series5XT chips from Imagination Technologies. They are going to plonk it into their OWN Smartphones and tablets
Wouldn`t be better to simply use ST-Ericsson U9600 witch have next-gen GPU from Imagination called Rogue?
According to some news from last month ST-Ericsson has sampled this NovaThor beauty already...and will be ready to ship it in 2012 not 2013 as previously sad. We`ll see...
Posted by randomuser
On 2011-10-07 11:41:06, argiriano wrote:
On 2011-10-07 10:58:43, randomuser wrote:
I guess now things are clear as to why Sony licensed more PowerVR SGX Series5XT chips from Imagination Technologies. They are going to plonk it into their OWN Smartphones and tablets
Wouldn`t be better to simply use ST-Ericsson U9600 witch have next-gen GPU from Imagination called Rogue?
According to some news from last month ST-Ericsson has sampled this NovaThor beauty already...and will be ready to ship it in 2012 not 2013 as previously sad. We`ll see...
I doubt that.
And on topic what is the point of discussing future
handsets now as most likely they won't make it to market ever. 
I guess the deal could be completed by the end of this year, so I guess no Nozomi and Aoba.
Posted by nikos_se
Dont worry Nozomi and most of the 2012 portfolio is gonna make it to the market,with little to no change.If Sony buys
,the wont have time to fool around and start designing their own smartphones immediately,so they're gonna use products in the beginning,just like HP did when they bought palm,like Google will do with Motorola,etc etc...
Posted by randomuser
On 2011-10-07 12:31:16, nikos_se wrote:
Dont worry Nozomi and most of the 2012 portfolio is gonna make it to the market,with little to no change.If Sony buys
,the wont have time to fool around and start designing their own smartphones immediately,so they're gonna use products in the beginning,just like HP did when they bought palm,like Google will do with Motorola,etc etc...
I know but knowing Sony, I somehow doubt that they will just rebrand nozomi as SONY and sell them. Maybe Sony has already started developing a superphone for 2012. And maybe for 2012 they will only have one or maybe two iphone like high end devices and from 2013 start expanding their portfolio.
Posted by Legen
Ice cream sandwich/nexus prime launch cancelled. I wonder why? Could it be because of underwellming apple announcement?
www.engadget.com/2011/10/07/s[....]eam-sandwich-and-galaxy-nexus/
Posted by jack00
On 2011-10-07 17:45:09, Legen wrote:
Ice cream sandwich/nexus prime launch cancelled. I wonder why? Could it be because of underwellming apple announcement?
http://www.engadget.com/2011/[....]eam-sandwich-and-galaxy-nexus/
its postponed, not canceled
i think that its because of steve jobs death, google and apple have a good relationship - and silicon valley is more or less a large family, people know each other
Posted by Legen
On 2011-10-07 17:59:26, jack00 wrote:
On 2011-10-07 17:45:09, Legen wrote:
Ice cream sandwich/nexus prime launch cancelled. I wonder why? Could it be because of underwellming apple announcement?
http://www.engadget.com/2011/[....]eam-sandwich-and-galaxy-nexus/
its postponed, not canceled
i think that its because of steve jobs death, google and apple have a good relationship - and silicon valley is more or less a large family, people know each other
Lol. Seriously? (btw i shouldn't have written cancelled. ment postponed)
Posted by pmugghc
On 2011-10-08 03:14:58, Legen wrote:
On 2011-10-07 17:59:26, jack00 wrote:
On 2011-10-07 17:45:09, Legen wrote:
Ice cream sandwich/nexus prime launch cancelled. I wonder why? Could it be because of underwellming apple announcement?
http://www.engadget.com/2011/[....]eam-sandwich-and-galaxy-nexus/
its postponed, not canceled
i think that its because of steve jobs death, google and apple have a good relationship - and silicon valley is more or less a large family, people know each other
Lol. Seriously? (btw i shouldn't have written cancelled. ment postponed)
Yes, they are of course competitors, but remember Eric Schmidt sat on Apple's board. Google has gone out officially to confirm it's due to Steve Job's death. His funeral is this Friday, so I think it makes sense. This will take too much news bandwidth too. The new date is Oct 27.
Posted by Legen
Ah. Makes sense. New topic: ice cream sandwich(from the leaked video of nexus prime), yay or nay?
Wonder how sonyericsson will customise it...
Posted by djin
Qualcomm just released new details on their new soc... would be really cool if
nozomi has that 
http://www.anandtech.com/show[....]-s4-msm8960-krait-architecture
Posted by Dups!
On 2011-10-09 00:38:00, djin wrote:
Qualcomm just released new details on their new soc... would be really cool if
nozomi has that
http://www.anandtech.com/show[....]-s4-msm8960-krait-architecture
The MSM8960 does look interesting and powerful indeed. The problem with SE is that Qualcomm has shares in HTC and so will more than likely give their best stuff first to HTC before anybody else.
Sadly, Ericsson is also about to sell its stake in ST-Ericsson due to the latter making too many losses.
Looks like Ericsson is cutting its losses seeing that SE may soon be 100 percent Sony controlled.
It's been nice folks, I will not be lurking here anymore since my interest in SE is gone. The impending takeover by Sony has made to decide to wait and see what Sony does, I may come back if Sony makes good products and succeeds in this industry but am not too optimistic.
Cheers!
Posted by razec
One thing is for sure, Sony will have bleeding edge hardware but will make the developer/modder's heart bleeding in software.
seriously though, Qualcomm has lead us to the 1Ghz race, but was lost on the dual core craze. now is the time to resurrect. the Adreno 225 GPU looks powerful on paper, but i still think PowerVR will remain the king in mobile graphics. If AMD could shrink their the HD6570 GPU (Turks) to fit into a tablet...
[ This Message was edited by: razec on 2011-10-09 09:51 ]
Posted by aurelius
Rumour from friend at ST-E, SE has contacted ST-E for chipset to 3 different devices. One of them could
be SE's first dual core on the market. No words if/when release.
[ This Message was edited by: aurelius on 2011-10-09 18:42 ]
Posted by argiriano
On 2011-10-09 19:42:04, aurelius wrote:
Rumour from friend at ST-E, SE has contacted ST-E for chipset to 3 different devices. One of them could
be SE's first dual core on the market. No words if/when release.
[ This Message was edited by: aurelius on 2011-10-09 18:42 ]
Im so curious to se SE device with ST-E powerplant... I hope this isn`t rumor.
Posted by randomuser
not likely considering Ericsson is quiting the JV with STM
Posted by aurelius
On 2011-10-10 10:54:59, randomuser wrote:
not likely considering Ericsson is quiting the JV with STM
You are playing with rumours, until that is confirmed work is ongoing ....
[ This Message was edited by: aurelius on 2011-10-10 14:21 ]
Posted by Bonovox
On 2011-10-09 10:19:45, Dups! wrote:
On 2011-10-09 00:38:00, djin wrote:
Qualcomm just released new details on their new soc... would be really cool if
nozomi has that
http://www.anandtech.com/show[....]-s4-msm8960-krait-architecture
The MSM8960 does look interesting and powerful indeed. The problem with SE is that Qualcomm has shares in HTC and so will more than likely give their best stuff first to HTC before anybody else.
Sadly, Ericsson is also about to sell its stake in ST-Ericsson due to the latter making too many losses.
Looks like Ericsson is cutting its losses seeing that SE may soon be 100 percent Sony controlled.
It's been nice folks, I will not be lurking here anymore since my interest in SE is gone. The impending takeover by Sony has made to decide to wait and see what Sony does, I may come back if Sony makes good products and succeeds in this industry but am not too optimistic.
Cheers!
@Dups! I can't believe you're off
Posted by Consumology
I wonder if Nozomi has at least LTE. Considering that Ericsson is building up LTE networks and SE has not one phone announced with it whereas lots of others have is just another episode of failure.
After ten years with SE I think I am going with the only true P800 successor in the market: the Samsung Galaxy Note! Sad, sad, sad.
Posted by Dups!
On 2011-10-10 21:34:41, Bonovox wrote:
On 2011-10-09 10:19:45, Dups! wrote:
On 2011-10-09 00:38:00, djin wrote:
Qualcomm just released new details on their new soc... would be really cool if
nozomi has that
http://www.anandtech.com/show[....]-s4-msm8960-krait-architecture
The MSM8960 does look interesting and powerful indeed. The problem with SE is that Qualcomm has shares in HTC and so will more than likely give their best stuff first to HTC before anybody else.
Sadly, Ericsson is also about to sell its stake in ST-Ericsson due to the latter making too many losses.
Looks like Ericsson is cutting its losses seeing that SE may soon be 100 percent Sony controlled.
It's been nice folks, I will not be lurking here anymore since my interest in SE is gone. The impending takeover by Sony has made to decide to wait and see what Sony does, I may come back if Sony makes good products and succeeds in this industry but am not too optimistic.
Cheers!
@Dups! I can't believe you're off
No, mate, I meant I will not be posting or looking into this thread but will be around esato.
Posted by razec
you can still hang around here to give your thoughts you don't need to have an
or Sony phone to write a single word here or should we?
Posted by goldenface
@Dups!
Of course you will be looking into this thread, what you talking about? You will have to look in, because from now on, we'll all be talking about YOU and not in a good way.....
Posted by Bonovox
Posted by Dups!
On 2011-10-11 12:26:53, goldenface wrote:
@Dups!
Of course you will be looking into this thread, what you talking about? You will have to look in, because from now on, we'll all be talking about YOU and not in a good way.....
Be careful, I will send my lawyers after all those who speak ill of me
I don't know guys, like I wrote, I have come to a realisation that the SE I loved is not the same as before and I am just not feeling it anymore. I know I have been pessimistic about Sony's chances but as razec suggested that I should wait and see what Sony comes up with, I am giving Sony a chance. In fact, I now think this is actually a good move cause SE has reached its destination and cannot go beyond this. I know Sony will give us amazingly specced phones and I am really hoping they keep the SE team cause they have made huge strides to again being at the top end of the scale.
I don't like Samsung, I detest LG, Motorola is dead to me, HTC has problems with signal reception and Nokia is Microsoft's pawn and I see a bleak future for them.
I am okay with Blackberry and am looking into Apple but I am now not so sure I will eventually buy the iPhone anymore.
So, this all leads me back to Sony Mobile, like they say, home is where the heart is. I am really looking forward to their first superphone.
Yes, I have had a change of heart. It was time to move on from the love affair I had with Ericsson. I just hope Sony doesn't fail as I suspect it is likely to (sorry, I have this feeling I can't shake but I hope I am wrong).
I am also looking forward to this thread renamed 'The All New 2012 Sony Portfolio' next year. By that I mean they should acquire the Ericsson shares as soon as now.
Sony, don't you dare disappoint me!!!
@razec
No, no one is prohibited from contributing to this thread even if they don't own a Sony Ericsson/Sony phone, it is just that I don't want to be here when the Ericsson part is soon to disappear. I will be back when it is all Sony. I don't even know whether I want to buy (the) Nozomi seeing that it is likely to be the last Sony Ericsson's last flagship before it becomes Sony.
So, until then, I WILL BE BACK. Arnold Schwazeneger would be proud
Posted by rraz9228
On 2011-10-11 14:35:01, Dups! wrote:
Sony, don't you dare disappoint me!!!
@razec
No, no one is prohibited from contributing to this thread even if they don't own a Sony Ericsson/Sony phone, it is just that I don't want to be here when the Ericsson part is soon to disappear. I will be back when it is all Sony. I don't even know whether I want to buy (the) Nozomi seeing that it is likely to be the last Sony Ericsson's last flagship before it becomes Sony.
So, until then, I WILL BE BACK. Arnold Schwazeneger would be proud
If rog's comment is to go by, since he is one of the most trusted insider here, it look's like SE/Sony will not disappoint.
As for Nozomi, if this is SE's last phone, you may want to buy it because it is the last SE phone. I still keep my T68 as a souvenir as it is last Ericsson phone I had before it became an SE.
[ This Message was edited by: rraz9228 on 2011-10-11 18:34 ]
Posted by goldenface
Exciting times indeed!
I'm wondering of Sony has been planning for the eventual divorce all along and has been working on mobiles of their own for a few years now.
Posted by razec
I just try to think the real meaning behind the Nozomi name as since it generally means "Wish" in Japanese, i have a feeling that this one will surely deliver. if it did I'm sure we'll burst into tears as we only managed to see the real "best" of SE in its last moments
- perhaps I'm being too carried away [ This Message was edited by: razec on 2011-10-12 01:48 ]
Posted by WhiteEye
On 2011-10-12 02:47:23, razec wrote:
I just try to think the real meaning behind the Nozomi name as since it generally means "Wish" in Japanese, i have a feeling that this one will surely deliver.
Haha.
Actually, both Nozomi and Aoba are service names of fastest train in Japan (or, shinkansen). After the fruit names for 2011, Sony Ericsson seems going for this kind of stuff for 2012 portfolio. They might have Mizuho, Tsubame, or even Hikari up in their sleeves. Just a wild guess.
Posted by SE cz
On 2011-10-12 11:11:58, WhiteEye wrote:
On 2011-10-12 02:47:23, razec wrote:
I just try to think the real meaning behind the Nozomi name as since it generally means "Wish" in Japanese, i have a feeling that this one will surely deliver.
Haha.
Actually, both Nozomi and Aoba are service names of fastest train in Japan (or, shinkansen). After the fruit names for 2011, Sony Ericsson seems going for this kind of stuff for 2012 portfolio. They might have Mizuho, Tsubame, or even Hikari up in their sleeves. Just a wild guess.
... and for example Sagem should have their own TGV flagship (j/k). For now I think Sony & Ericsson should solve problems in their joint venture very quickly and show us some new strategy, mean if Nozomi and Aoba are names of fastest trains in Japan, they should arrive very soon ...
(btw.: I dunno if this info was here, this might be new Ice Cream Screens and Video Leak Online: http://www.androidguys.com/20[....]ich-screens-video-leak-online/ )
[ This Message was edited by: SE cz on 2011-10-12 14:45 ]
Posted by randomuser
On 2011-10-12 15:20:34, SE cz wrote:
On 2011-10-12 11:11:58, WhiteEye wrote:
On 2011-10-12 02:47:23, razec wrote:
I just try to think the real meaning behind the Nozomi name as since it generally means "Wish" in Japanese, i have a feeling that this one will surely deliver.
Haha.
Actually, both Nozomi and Aoba are service names of fastest train in Japan (or, shinkansen). After the fruit names for 2011, Sony Ericsson seems going for this kind of stuff for 2012 portfolio. They might have Mizuho, Tsubame, or even Hikari up in their sleeves. Just a wild guess.
... and for example Sagem should have their own TGV flagship (j/k). For now I think Sony & Ericsson should solve problems in their joint venture very quickly and show us some new strategy, mean if Nozomi and Aoba are names of fastest trains in Japan, they should arrive very soon ...
(btw.: I dunno if this info was here, this might be new Ice Cream Screens and Video Leak Online: http://www.androidguys.com/20[....]ich-screens-video-leak-online/ )
[ This Message was edited by: SE cz on 2011-10-12 14:45 ]
Well its now 99% confirmed Sony is taking over
so no point of solving problems now. Its all over the news now with coverage every single tech site and neither Ericsson or have claimed that the news is only a rumor and the takeover is not happening.
Posted by SE cz
On 2011-10-12 16:10:46, randomuser wrote:
On 2011-10-12 15:20:34, SE cz wrote:
On 2011-10-12 11:11:58, WhiteEye wrote:
On 2011-10-12 02:47:23, razec wrote:
I just try to think the real meaning behind the Nozomi name as since it generally means "Wish" in Japanese, i have a feeling that this one will surely deliver.
Haha.
Actually, both Nozomi and Aoba are service names of fastest train in Japan (or, shinkansen). After the fruit names for 2011, Sony Ericsson seems going for this kind of stuff for 2012 portfolio. They might have Mizuho, Tsubame, or even Hikari up in their sleeves. Just a wild guess.
... and for example Sagem should have their own TGV flagship (j/k). For now I think Sony & Ericsson should solve problems in their joint venture very quickly and show us some new strategy, mean if Nozomi and Aoba are names of fastest trains in Japan, they should arrive very soon ...
(btw.: I dunno if this info was here, this might be new Ice Cream Screens and Video Leak Online: http://www.androidguys.com/20[....]ich-screens-video-leak-online/ )
[ This Message was edited by: SE cz on 2011-10-12 14:45 ]
Well its now 99% confirmed Sony is taking over
so no point of solving problems now. Its all over the news now with coverage every single tech site and neither Ericsson or have claimed that the news is only a rumor and the takeover is not happening.
I know of course, that "solving problems" I mean to do that takeover ASAP.
Posted by randomuser
^
I think earliest the takeover can happen by December end this year. But most probably Q1 next year.
Posted by adsada
On 2011-10-12 16:10:46, randomuser wrote:
On 2011-10-12 15:20:34, SE cz wrote:
On 2011-10-12 11:11:58, WhiteEye wrote:
On 2011-10-12 02:47:23, razec wrote:
I just try to think the real meaning behind the Nozomi name as since it generally means "Wish" in Japanese, i have a feeling that this one will surely deliver.
Haha.
Actually, both Nozomi and Aoba are service names of fastest train in Japan (or, shinkansen). After the fruit names for 2011, Sony Ericsson seems going for this kind of stuff for 2012 portfolio. They might have Mizuho, Tsubame, or even Hikari up in their sleeves. Just a wild guess.
... and for example Sagem should have their own TGV flagship (j/k). For now I think Sony & Ericsson should solve problems in their joint venture very quickly and show us some new strategy, mean if Nozomi and Aoba are names of fastest trains in Japan, they should arrive very soon ...
(btw.: I dunno if this info was here, this might be new Ice Cream Screens and Video Leak Online: http://www.androidguys.com/20[....]ich-screens-video-leak-online/ )
[ This Message was edited by: SE cz on 2011-10-12 14:45 ]
Well its now 99% confirmed Sony is taking over
so no point of solving problems now. Its all over the news now with coverage every single tech site and neither Ericsson or have claimed that the news is only a rumor and the takeover is not happening.
I wouldn't say 99%, please enlighten me as to recent articles which have made this more definite then the wall street journal last week?
Posted by goldenface
Nothing is confirmed yet and timing of this rumour makes me doubt it very much.
Posted by motvikt
On 2011-10-12 18:57:57, goldenface wrote:
Nothing is confirmed yet and timing of this rumour makes me doubt it very much.
+1. On the articles in swedish press alot of people from Ericsson commented saying they havent heard a thing. I imagine at least something would have slipped out by now. They also said Sony is still treating SE like a bastard child but it has gotten better. apperently Sony had a lot of control when Dick was CEO, look how that went
Posted by goldenface
So if we don't hear anything in the next couple of weeks then I'm going to assume its business as usual.
Posted by SIC87
strange pic of new se pad
fake?
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/824/p121011214014567777.jpg
link http://mobibal.com/forum-23-1.html
[ This Message was edited by: SIC87 on 2011-10-12 19:06 ]
Posted by aurelius
There are a couple of issues with Sony buying out Ericsson!
Patents - Do you really think Ericsson with all those patents would sell them and having nothing left for themselves? If they sell those mobile patents there's pretty much nothing left. Ericsson stands really strong with these patents and I doubt that they would sell them to Sony and Sony needs those patents to be able to secure their future mobile sales.
This is not the first time I've heard this rumour, it keeps coming back year after year!
Posted by SE cz
On 2011-10-12 20:05:33, SIC87 wrote:
strange pic of new se pad
fake?
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/824/p121011214014567777.jpg
link http://mobibal.com/forum-23-1.html
[ This Message was edited by: SIC87 on 2011-10-12 19:06 ]
... ouch
Posted by SIC87
Looks like the TV
Posted by goldenface
Fake...
Posted by huiyi
W23I。。。
Dual-core
Posted by aamwng
w23i...
No flash!?! PASS!
Posted by FMW300
I know spy pics never do justice to the actual phone, but whatever that is, it looks very un-SE. Too block-ish and not following
design.
Posted by goldenface
That looks like it means business - looks like nothing in the current portfolio. Look at the music buttons, at the TOP of the phone?
And going by the 3.5mm jack it looks to be about 12mm with human curvature tapering down to the bottom of the phone.
Is that a
symbol on the power button that has been removed?
Posted by Karun
As long as nothing is confirmed, Sony Ericsson stays. I wouldn't pay a lot of heed to what the rumour mills say. I believe SE is here to stay. Lets hope it kicks ass next year!
Posted by goldenface
+1
Me too. They should come roaring back in 2012. The device above looks like a quality product to me already.
Posted by Dups!
On 2011-10-13 10:07:30, Karun wrote:
As long as nothing is confirmed, Sony Ericsson stays. I wouldn't pay a lot of heed to what the rumour mills say. I believe SE is here to stay. Lets hope it kicks ass next year!
I hope that becomes reality by end of next year but I am beginning to have doubts. They should've made a statement to the contrary if the rumour wasn't true.
Anyway, that W23i looks like some serious walkman phone or is it a phone, of course, judging by the limited view of the photo itself.
I agree with FMW300i, from that angle it looks like nothing SE would design. Could this be a Sony walkman instead? The design does lend itself to a Sony style of design.
Hold on, what am doing in this thread again?
Posted by goldenface
That made me laugh so much Dups!
Yeah, it does look like a Sony Walkman but wouldn't the camera aperture but an unusual feature for a Walkman only device?
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