The All New Sony Ericsson Portfolio for 2011

Posted by smclion102
Will

Make Windows 7.5 Phone?? Can we Expect Next Year 2012??
So many Manufacture's started making them .. Wish

Show there Windows Phone at MWC..

Posted by HxH
All I want to say is DAMN!!

must step up their own game.
why they let this happen?

[ This Message was edited by: HxH on 2011-09-26 18:15 ]

Posted by smclion102
" Was founded on OCT 1,2001"

OCTOBER 1 in Another 4/5days 10 years Anniversary celebration ???

... Will we see any Surprise

?? Hopefully yes !!! Finger's Crossed

======
Anybody Got any News ? any Rumors ?? Anything??

10 years Anniversary and Why is the Forum so Quite ?? the Whole

Forum seems to be Frozen

[ This Message was edited by: smclion102 on 2011-09-26 18:24 ]

Posted by goldenface
Might be a good time to have a 10th Anniversary Playtime.

No rumours as to whether there was going to be 10th anniversary announcement.

Posted by jack00

On 2011-09-26 21:06:35, goldenface wrote:
Might be a good time to have a 10th Anniversary Playtime.

No rumours as to whether there was going to be 10th anniversary announcement.

do they have anything to celebrate ?

Posted by adsada

On 2011-09-26 21:45:54, jack00 wrote:

On 2011-09-26 21:06:35, goldenface wrote:
Might be a good time to have a 10th Anniversary Playtime.

No rumours as to whether there was going to be 10th anniversary announcement.

do they have anything to celebrate ?

Maybe it'll be the realise of the xperia pro

Posted by koss
unfortunatly

is quietly dying.... fans lost their faith..... models are behind with two circuit laps...behind competition
Guys life is too short to wait and wait and wait again to something special to happen. There are many models in the wild from htc, samsung apple, motorola... that are years ahead

Posted by goldenface
SE has probably standardised a lot of the components across it's range of 2011 Xperias in order to reduce costs, which is why so many have the same 1GHz processors etc.

Before it can invest in offering real top flight devices it would be wise for them to establish a good financial footing - not a bad strategy.

2012 could see some great devices if all goes well.

Posted by Lostsoulz
[quote]
On 2011-09-27 10:52:29, koss wrote:
unfortunatly

.
[I think Sony Should Just buy out Ericsson next month it be the 10th anniversary of the joint venture it was good team work back then, Sony could give so much then ]

Posted by aamwng
[quote]
On 2011-09-27 12:05:19, Lostsoulz wrote:

On 2011-09-27 10:52:29, koss wrote:
unfortunatly

.
[I think Sony Should Just buy out Ericsson next month it be the 10th anniversary of the joint venture it was good team work back then, Sony could give so much then ]

Is not Ericsson that is slowing SE down!!!! Its Sony!!!! While Sony is busy releasing their quad PSV, dual walkman and tablet, SE is stuck with single. And Ericsson can't do anything about it, because ST-Ericsson is yet another 50-50

Ericsson buy-out Sony's 50%,

reborn!

Posted by Dups!
Noooo, not again!

This fallacy that Sony alone will conquer the cellphone market is quite silly and should end.

We've been through this before, Sony can't even compete in all other spheres it is involved in.

Sony can't afford to ditch Ericsson and they will not. I have said that should SE make decent profits in the next three quarters then we are likely to see their resurgence.

Let this not be another Sony vs Ericsson because the former will not go it alone as they know they will fail dismally. Right now both are not completely failing but are hanging on for dear life and should they weather the storm and come out unscathed then good things will happen.

Anyway, we're about to find out if they are on the mend next month when the third quarter results are revealed.

[ This Message was edited by: Dups! on 2011-09-27 12:18 ]

Posted by adsada
Oh god, this thread really does just go around in circles I like to read the comments from time to time, but now its going back to the Ericsson vs Song debate where the fanboys for each come out and fight within SE. The chances they they'll buy each other out are slim, but far more likely that Sony would Ericsson. Like Sony would sell their share to Ericsson effectively letting them use the sony name in Sony Ericsson. Also many would argue that SE rests a lot on the things that Sony bring it to help market the products, in the past this has been walkman and cyber-shot but now is the Exmor-r, Playstation, Bravia etc. and now their 3D technology.

Anyway it's all really pointless speculation, just wait and see what happens!

Posted by nikos_se
I think the problem with sony ericsson is pricing!!For example xperia play was sold for 500euros,when it launched in March,and now can be found for 230euros.Dont get me wrong,i believe xperia play is a great device,however had it launched in the right price point(300euros) it would be an instant hit.The problem is that they are using outdated hardware(processor,screen resolution),that simple doesnt justify the price.If they had launched xperia neo/pro/play for 300euros,xperia arc for 400euro,they would actually had more revenue and sales.It is pretty obvious that Sony Ericsson doesnt have the resources to develop cutting-edge products anymore,they simple follow,and that's the reason they cant find sucess in the high-end market,that they seem to have focused.At this point,there are 3 ways to get SE from mediocrity and breaking-even.

1.The Joint Venture stays as it is,and they actually start pricing their products more aggressive.

2.Sony and Ericsson agree to finance and put more effort in the JV,thus giving SE their latest technologies(cameras,processors,screen tecnologies),that justify the price of the products.

3.Sony or Ericsson buys the other's part,starting a whole new company.

[ This Message was edited by: nikos_se on 2011-09-27 12:32 ]

Posted by bart
Option 3 would be the best solution. Ericsson can still pay to use Sony tech until the time comes that they build something better.
Ericsson had far more advanced prototypes then SE has phones on the market.

Posted by nikos_se
Actually i believe the opposite.Sony is more eager to succeed in the mobile phone industry than Ericsson.Sony wants to build an ecosystem of devices(phones,tablets,computers,TVs,game consoles) that support the same services.I wouldn't be suprised if they actually announce a buyout on October 1st or simply the Disband of the Joint Venture.The thing is that,they failed to reach the goal that they set in 2001.So they will either commit in making the JV work or each will go their way.

Posted by randomuser
I doubt the JV will end on October 1.

Posted by c96sthl
http://detail.zol.com.cn/picture_index_723/index7222864.shtml

this is not on rumor....well at china, they claim Active already out yesterday.
look interesting as the review claim it can be use even touch screen is wet.

Posted by nikos_se
Well,October 1st is going be a big day,cause a lot of important decisions are going to be made.Sony's and Ericsson's contract for the Joint Venture expires on October 1st,so they are going to either renew their contract for the next 5 years or so,or find a different solution for the JV.Whatever happens,it should be intresting nevertheless.

Posted by randomuser
What do you guys think will happen? I feel that both Sony and Ericsson will renew their contract.

Posted by Ricky D

On 2011-09-27 15:38:15, c96sthl wrote:
http://detail.zol.com.cn/picture_index_723/index7222864.shtml

this is not on rumor....well at china, they claim Active already out yesterday.
look interesting as the review claim it can be use even touch screen is wet.

That website is the online directory of the electronics market in Beijing. I wouldn't necessarily treat their sources as 100% genuine all the time as they do have hoards and hoards of fake products there and I've seen 'catalogues' in person in that market containing pictures of known renders of concepts from this very forum. Attached to each of those concepts being a price and an associated faked product to look like the given concept.

Saying that, those pics on there look fairly conclusive, I don't think it's actually on sale there as I was there two days ago and didn't see it. It could be photos from the new R&D centre they're putting up here or a fresh batch off the line for review purposes.

RE: Joint Venture

I'm certain we would have heard if they were going to wind down in the next couple days. A contract like this cannot be dropped out of over night, they'd have had to have announced it months ago that they weren't renewing or continuing if hey wanted to close up shop on Friday.

[ This Message was edited by: Ricky D on 2011-09-27 17:01 ]

Posted by Dups!
You guys need to relax, there will not be an end to the joint-venture. The Nozomi is scheduled for next year as a Sony Ericsson and not Sony or even Ericsson.

Such decisions are not just taken out of the blue, extensive negotiations take place beforehand. Also, the rumour that suggests that SE will have their biggest portfolio next year again suggests they are in this for the long haul.

SE is still around unless their financial situation takes a turn for the worse.

I also don't see Ericsson making it on their own, not that they would entertain such a thought as the cellphone market for them is a small package of the business and they still make a sizeable amount of money from patents. Either side is doomed should the venture end. As much as I would love to see and use an Ericsson phone but they will not come back alone.

This joint-venture still has the potential to be successful and they are not doing that bad as compared to previous years, particularly after 2006, so they are still in with a chance.

I just hope they don't make any more losses from now on. I am still waiting to buy me a Sony Ericsson Android monster. Hopefully next year is that year.

Posted by motvikt
Damn I want Nozomi leaks!!! Hopefully Eldar will say something on twitter like last year

Posted by badassmam

and Sony are totally different and independent from each other. Its not a case that Sony is holding

back and at the same time, its not like

can just call up Sony and ask for anything. There is a certain degree of overlap but Sony engineers make Sony products,

people do their own thing. It seems that Sony have been more than generous by 'giving' them PlayStation, Bravia and Exmor while

have made their mind up on their base i.e. processor, OS etc. so expecting

to have a phone that is just like the latest Walkman is unrealistic. If people want that then let Sony kill off

and do it their own way. Another thing to remember is that if

comes out with a high end CyberShot with all the best Sony tech, the phone better be damn good to make Sony look good so its understandable if they refuse to put their stuff into 'old, outdated' phones. Not a fan of

anymore but Sony never disappoints me.

Speaking in general terms, phones have promised to replace mp3/4 players, digital cameras and gaming devices but that's way off. I still use my camera for important events and my Walkman serves me on a daily basis. I don't see it changing anytime soon either because you get faster processors each year but no real improvement in music or camera. I haven't seen true innovation or progress in a while now.

I tried the HTC Beats out and its all hype. The headphones do the biz but just tweaking my Desire with software and a decent set of headphones makes it similar, still nothing compared to my Walkman. There is going to be a new megapixel race happening, a few different competitors at the moment. Apart from new processors its the same shit from everyone, even the designs are the same.

Posted by HxH

On 2011-09-28 01:46:27, badassmam wrote:
I tried the HTC Beats out and its all hype. Apart from new processors its the same shit from everyone, even the designs are the same.

As I expect to read from you, its kind of no surprises, the latter one is same as my feeling with recent HTC line-up but most of my friend like 'em even it very old and recycle design maybe unibody aluminum case.

Long time no see, how thing going badassmam?

Same as me, I'm now happy Apple user but still have little room for

when come to product design

Posted by badassmam
^
I doing great, thanks for asking.

I'm a sucker for

design as well and I've been through many of them with 90% satisfaction. Nowadays, I set my HTC Desire as the benchmark, its old now but solid and reliable so unless I see something that is significantly better, I won't change.

make lovely phones but its not that much better that what I have now. Even the Galaxy S2 and Sensation don't impress me because for all that power, you don't see that much of an improvement. The HTC Beats caught my eye because of its potential but I wasn't really impressed. Get onto the Android market and get the Audio FX Widget, that's your HTC Beats for free.

Anyway, the

dual core will be overshadowed by some more powerful phones at the next MWC. It isn't such a bad thing but a quick release of optimised hardware would be most welcome. Quad and Dual core won't give you much difference so *if the

has a top camera module, it'll be fine. The main camera competition is from Nokia but their priorities are different and they're handicapping their phones with Windows. HTC and Moto aren't anything special for camera. The new Nexus which is expected before MWC, will have the same flavour as most upcoming devices. Samsung, HTC and Apple are announcing soon,

also have something for their anniversary which should be something good.

Posted by jack00

On 2011-09-28 19:50:56, badassmam wrote:

also have something for their anniversary which should be something good.

something extremely cool would be a T68 anniversary edition - in the vein of the sony ericsson pureness
or a P800 anniversary with android (but UIQ style interface)

bring them on

Posted by motvikt

On 2011-09-28 20:13:41, jack00 wrote:

On 2011-09-28 19:50:56, badassmam wrote:

also have something for their anniversary which should be something good.

something extremely cool would be a T68 anniversary edition - in the vein of the sony ericsson pureness
or a P800 anniversary with android (but UIQ style interface)

bring them on

YES! That would be cool!

[ This Message was edited by: motvikt on 2011-09-28 19:15 ]

Posted by goldenface
I really believe

s best interest is being integrated into Sony's ecosystem.

The Sony tablet - they market as all they ever do in one device - Bravia, Walkman, Movies etc and I can only see the line between

phones and Sony tablets becoming more blurred.

is a fantastic company but on the high-street, it's virtually unknown to the regular consumer as a stand alone brand.

[ This Message was edited by: goldenface on 2011-09-28 20:05 ]

Posted by HxH
What do you think about recently HD screen resolution has been announced earlier this month, next trend after megapixels and cpu clock race? it have few months before MWC but I feel it going to be big on this year.

I'm not much impressed about htc collaboration with beats, it just software tuning things with anyway quality headphone could delivered it job. My expectation is higher for some hardware

Well, for

at least they still have something nice in the bags, I only hope that it won't late in market.

Any info about htc sensation utilize st-ericsson hardware from your side?
I really curious about performance this one

but not expect to challenge with S2 the monster.

[ This Message was edited by: HxH on 2011-09-28 21:36 ]

Posted by motvikt

On 2011-09-28 22:35:12, HxH wrote:
What do you think about recently HD screen resolution has been announced earlier this month, next trend after megapixels and cpu clock race? it have few months before MWC but I feel it going to be big on this year.

I'm not much impressed about htc collaboration with beats, it just software tuning things with anyway quality headphone could delivered it job. My expectation is higher for some hardware

Well, for

but not expect to challenge with S2 the monster.

[ This Message was edited by: HxH on 2011-09-28 21:36 ]

I think the performance should be pretty similar. Both use 45nm, both are arm cortex a9, both have MALI Gpu
Imo on paper its a much better choice than Qualcomms s2 of whatever is inside "our" sensation

Posted by nikos_se
I dont get one thing.If Sony Ericsson wasnt going to release a dual-core phone this year,why did they trademark xperia duo??For a phone that they're gonna launch in 2012??When all 300eur+ phones are going to have dual/quad-core cpu,naming a phone duo,just doesnt make any sense.I,also,dont understand the new trandition that goes in SE.Ever since 2004(except 2010), Q4 always got a high-end phone.Unless of course,they think that launching a xperia arc,with a slightly overclocked cpu is enough for Q4.If they have any phone to launch in 2011,we'll know soon.

Posted by Dups!
To be fair, we don't really know what the 'duo' means. We speculated that it was for the dual-core phone, could even be a dual-sim phone for all we know.

Yes, the arc S is intended for the 'high-end' Q4 phone for this year. I don't recall them releasing any high-end phone in 2010 in the fourth quarter.

I, personally, think they missed the bus this year. They should've released a dual-core phone now instead of the arc S. If, however, they will release something cutting edge in the second half of next year, and I'm not talking about (the) Nozomi, then they will be back in business.

Posted by nikos_se
I totally agree with you.There is no reason having the arc and the arc S at the same time in markets,they kind of kill each other sales potential.If the wanted to offer some more premium specs they should have done the following.

1.replace 1GHZ msm8255,with 1.5GHZ msm8260(dual-core).

2.replace 1500mah battery,with 1800mah battery.

3.replace 512MB ram,with 1GB ram.

4.add 16GB built-in storage,and keep the xperia acro(Japanese phone) design+bulit,so that they have more space for larger battery,memory and cpu.

5.Launch it as the xperia arc S,for 499eur,and drop the retail price of the original arc,at around 329eur-349eur.

That way not only do they effectively compete with the other manufacturers,but also keep both models in the market.

Posted by smclion102
Hey

Samsung Just announced a 16mp sensor .. Are you gona use ur 16mp sooner than Sammy??
Pls Put them in ur High End Before anybody does..

Posted by smclion102
Android Ice Cream Sandwich detailed on video

http://youtu.be/hp-apbohzfs

Posted by MNX1024
I found some more information on Nozomi from howard forums under the keitai section. Apparently the person who posted this said they found it in a Vietnamese website. I'm currently trying to track down the source page:

Docomo SO-02D Nozomi (Smartphone)

OS: Android 2.3
Display: 4.3 "1280 � 720 pixels (HD)
Memory: 1 GB
Camera
Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, module GSM / WCDMA
Release date (tentative): November 2011
Connector for Micro SIM

I know there's not much info and the info doesn't differ from current rumor/speculation, but hey, better than nothing right?

By the way, this info here is for Docomo's winter line up this year, supposedly.

[ This Message was edited by: MNX1024 on 2011-09-29 15:12 ]

Posted by Dups!
If they manage to get this out by November then they would've done themselves a world of good. It would also mean there's something mind-blowing to be announced at MWC.

But that is a big if. Let's see since there is that word I don't like in there, and that is 'tentative'. Sounds like some people want this out this year while others next year.

Is it the 10 year anniversary surprise, to release this phone this year?

Let's wait and see.

Posted by motvikt
Docomo was unreliable last year.

Posted by adsada

On 2011-09-29 18:07:32, Dups! wrote:
If they manage to get this out by November then they would've done themselves a world of good. It would also mean there's something mind-blowing to be announced at MWC.

But that is a big if. Let's see since there is that word I don't like in there, and that is 'tentative'. Sounds like some people want this out this year while others next year.

Is it the 10 year anniversary surprise, to release this phone this year?

Let's wait and see.

Nah, they've even stated their strategy for the end of this year will be to focus on the ray and arc s. So you'll start to see ads featuring these phones as the run up to Christmas. I don;t think they'd bring out a dual core phone now because it would completely kill of the arc s, as they'll try to sell this as a powerful device...

Posted by HxH

On 2011-09-28 22:42:55, motvikt wrote:

Well, for

but not expect to challenge with S2 the monster.

[ This Message was edited by: HxH on 2011-09-28 21:36 ]

AFAIK, U9500 utilize only single core of Mali 400 while S2 from Samsung is MP4 version which mean quad core of gpu
I really eager to see this model performance if this floating information are correct

Posted by smclion102

On 2011-09-29 18:14:04, motvikt wrote:
Docomo was unreliable last year.

+1 Useless info last Year

Posted by smclion102

On 2011-09-29 18:32:16, adsada wrote:

100% True No Super Phone this Year..

remember

UK will be Spending lot of Cash for Ads for Ray and Arc S .Thats More than Enough for Us to understand that nothing Special wud be announced

Posted by adsada

On 2011-09-29 19:40:12, smclion102 wrote:

On 2011-09-29 18:32:16, adsada wrote:

100% True No Super Phone this Year..

remember

UK will be Spending lot of Cash for Ads for Ray and Arc S .Thats More than Enough for Us to understand that nothing Special wud be announced

all good things come to those who wait, expect in the case for

you have to wait yeeeeeeeeeears

Posted by FMW300
I think that there is still a small possibility that

can announce something big this year.
They spoke about focusing advertising & christmas sales etc on Arc & Ray, but even if they have plans to run ad campaigns behind any newer phone that they announce, they won't speak out about those plans before the announcement.
So we really can't write off the possibility of it based on what they said before the product is launched.

Posted by motvikt
There was an interview with Bert in todays newspaper. He was talking about the change from feature-phone to a smart-phone company. The big thing however was that in 2012 they plan to take their connection to Sony to a whole new level (2012 being the "Sony year"), making all their products linked together.

No talk about hardware at all which was strange, maybe they have given up on the hardware race.

Posted by jack00

On 2011-09-30 11:05:09, motvikt wrote:
There was an interview with Bert in todays newspaper. He was talking about the change from feature-phone to a smart-phone company. The big thing however was that in 2012 they plan to take their connection to Sony to a whole new level (2012 being the "Sony year"), making all their products linked together.

No talk about hardware at all which was strange, maybe they have given up on the hardware race.

thats no news - thats natural - without sonys eco system they won't be able to survive 2012 anyway
btw. didn't they announce early 2011, that this year was a sony year too ?
(i have been hearing this since years)

Posted by HxH

On 2011-09-30 12:17:08, aurelius wrote:

On 2011-09-26 12:51:01, motvikt wrote:
http://www.stericsson.com/press_releases/HTC_sensation.jsp

I think its safe to say it will be 9500

I just got recieved a very informative SMS that the HTC Sensation with ST-E NovaThor running at 1GHz dual
kicks HTC Sensation Qualcomm 1,2GHz in almost every benchmark. Promising!

Oh Yeah! That's ROCKS!!!!

I eager to see this real life & benchmark performance very soon.

Posted by Ricky D
Did anyone else notice Play has come down to below �200 in most places in the past few days? Could this be to make space for Play2? or a new (bunch of) model(s)? or because iPhone 5 is due?

Kinda hope there is something pretty cool to come from SE. The gap between X10 and arc was too long and they should try and fill the gap between arc and next year's model with something better than Ray and Arc S. Or maybe they're skipping another development stepping stone to try and catch up with the hardware side (like last year when they skipped dohnuts for eclairs to catch up).

[ This Message was edited by: Ricky D on 2011-09-30 12:08 ]

Posted by Jmblue

Hey looks like Sony Ericsson is supporting custom roms just like samsung now.�

http://www.androidauthority.c[....]20-phones-to-developers-25742/

Btw I'm new here. Just looking for a place where people are actually discussing about SE rather than full of samsung fans. I love sony's design btw. Hope they have a great year in 2012!

Posted by Dups!
@jmblue

Welcome mate! Yeah, nobody designs like SE. I'm just waiting for that one phone, the kind that will be like the P800i when it was released. I'm talking about the kind of phone that says to all other manufacturers 'I mean business and I'm untouchable'.