Posted by Xajel
I heard that before that all SE's 2011 Android phones will be updated to ICS... and the rumours that ICS will only work on dual-cores or 1GB of ram are just silly !!
Posted by back2you
On 2011-09-08 13:10:30, Xajel wrote:
I heard that before that all SE's 2011 Android phones will be updated to ICS... and the rumours that ICS will only work on dual-cores or 1GB of ram are just silly !!
No , where nexus s
http://phandroid.com/2011/08/[....]cream-sandwich-on-the-nexus-s/
[ This Message was edited by: back2you on 2011-09-08 12:13 ]
Posted by smclion102
Sony Ericsson now says no official decision made re: Android ICS
This morning we reported on news on Sony Ericsson supposedly confirming that Android Ice Cream Sandwich (ICS) would hit the 2011 range of Xperia handsets. The company has since backtracked with an official statement on the matter to SoMobile:
“When it comes to future platforms of the Android OS, we will make them available to consumers in a timely manner, as long as they improve the user experience and are viable from a hardware point of view.”
So the jury is out right now, but let’s hope Sony Ericsson comes good (as long as the hardware is capable of it).
via
xperiablog
Posted by Dups!
Just when you thought they have their act together. The false announcement garnered them a lot of positive reactions and they could've just let it and worked hard to supply the update to all those phones. Talk about poor management who can't see a silver lining in anything. In business you spin almost anything into a positive for your company but it seems SE is incompetent in that field.
Imagine the people that ahd decided to buy an SE phone because of that initial announcement, they will say screw SE cause I'm changing my mind.
Posted by Ricky D
They said no official statement has been made, not no IceCream for 2011 Xperias, there is a difference. I have full belief that all the higher end Xperias this year will get Ice Cream but SE didn't want to say yes for definite because all that will happen is everyone who has an arc, neo or play right now will be screaming "Where's my effin' update?!" till middle of next year.
Also saying all Xperias will get the update is probably a little too broad as some of them might not be able to take the update and still perform well and with Google taking control of further updates from Ice Cream onwards it may be out of SE's hands.
They're just trying not to make promises that are going to cause issues later, all last year almost every forum on the net was slagging off SE for breaking promises surrounding the X10, I can completely understand them not wanting the same situation to arise again.
[ This Message was edited by: Ricky D on 2011-09-09 09:52 ]
Posted by se_dude
I am sure google gave them a call and told them to retract what they said. I mean, ICS hasnt been announced yet.
Posted by Dups!
On 2011-09-09 11:18:37, se_dude wrote:
I am sure google gave them a call and told them to retract what they said. I mean, ICS hasnt been announced yet.
If that is the case I can understand but if not then I find their response stupid to say the least.
@Ricky D
There is nowhere in my post I am saying SE have said that they will not update their phones but am saying that this was a good P.R exercise and one that could get them more sales. They should either have kept quiet or confirmed that it is so instead of creating doubt in potential customers and current owners. They did themselves a disservice by creating confusion.
Unless what se_dude suggests then they blew a good chance of polishing up on their reputation.
I can see them making this official in the coming months when some of those who were going to buy their phones have moved on to other brands.
Posted by Dups!
On 2011-09-09 12:02:49, aurelius wrote:
On 2011-09-09 11:53:56, Dups! wrote:
On 2011-09-09 11:18:37, se_dude wrote:
I am sure google gave them a call and told them to retract what they said. I mean, ICS hasnt been announced yet.
If that is the case I can understand but if not then I find their response stupid to say the least.
@Ricky D
There is nowhere in my post I am saying SE have said that they will not update their phones but am saying that this was a good P.R exercise and one that could get them more sales. They should either have kept quiet or confirmed that it is so instead of creating doubt in potential customers and current owners. They did themselves a disservice by creating confusion.
Unless what se_dude suggests then they blew a good chance of polishing up on their reputation.
I can see them making this official in the coming months when some of those who were going to buy their phones have moved on to other brands.
The official statement is that there has been no desicions made. You could either wait and see or be negative about it like you. I prefer the first!
Do you think the official who let the cat out of the bag knows nothing? This has been discussed within SE already and he inadvertently let it slip when he shouldn't have. The issue I have is how SE is dealing with it.
You are being naive in thinking that this is from nowhere, it is from within SE.
Posted by smclion102
Mystery Sony Ericsson SK10i crops up in benchmark running Android 2.3.5
Another new Sony Ericsson handset has appeared in a benchmark (it’s two a penny these days). The Sony Ericsson SK10i made an appearance in the AnTuTu Benchmark and showed that it was running Android 2.3.5 and has a weak 729.6MHz processor.
This handset may just be a prototype or could even be canned, but if it ever does come to light it will probably appear as a budget version of the Xperia mini pro (SK17i) given its model name (SK10i). Click through for a screengrab of the benchmark.
via
Xperiablog
Posted by Ricky D
@Dups!
My comment wasn't aimed at you. I was merely pre-empting the nay-sayers and forwarding my analysis. I can see your point about the publicity being on the whole negative, I'm sure they wanted to keep their mouths shut on the issue but someone slipped. I'm also certain that person who slipped has had a serious telling off in the last few days.
As for what se_dude has pointed out, this is also a possibility that Google have had a quick word with someone at SE to keep schtum.
Either way, what's said is said we just have to wait and see if the story unfolds further.
Posted by Dups!
I'm not sure about this but isn't the K standing for a keyboard?
I read somewhere that this is that el cheapo that Bert was talking about earlier this year- less than a £100.
Posted by Dups!
On 2011-09-09 14:23:54, Ricky D wrote:
@Dups!
My comment wasn't aimed at you. I was merely pre-empting the nay-sayers and forwarding my analysis. I can see your point about the publicity being on the whole negative, I'm sure they wanted to keep their mouths shut on the issue but someone slipped. I'm also certain that person who slipped has had a serious telling off in the last few days.
As for what se_dude has pointed out, this is also a possibility that Google have had a quick word with someone at SE to keep schtum.
Either way, what's said is said we just have to wait and see if the story unfolds further.
Sorry for misunderstanding your post there mate.
You sre right though that all we have to do now is wait and see.
Posted by Dups!
Like you also wrote, let's wait and see what transpires over the next few months.
I still stand by what I wrote with regard to SE's handling of the matter. They had a chance to turn this to their advantage.
By the way, aurelius, your last post reads like an angry post. Why (if you are) are you angry?
Posted by Dups!
I know what you are saying. I know I am hard on SE but that is because I want them to be the best which is what they were before losing their way.
I have been waiting for three years to buy an SE phone again, the last SE I bought was the P1i, and the arc was just right but I wasn't convinced that they will be able to survive so I held back. If they show that they will survive this year and Q1 next year then I am definitely getting an SE phone.
I love this brand, that is why I am so harsh on it. I don't care what happens to any other manufacturer hence I don't comment much on them but I get extremely harsh on SE.
Have a great weekend yourself.
Posted by kreacher
SE will definitely have ICS quicker than most other manufacturers (official decision or not), quick updates is one of their major goals on Android handsets. That's the reason they have similar hardware right from Arc down to the Minis and why they (relatively) decoupled Timescape / Mediascape.
Posted by goldenface
I'd be really surprised if SE didn't keep the 2011 Xperias updated with Ice Cream. The wouldn't want to have another X10 series debacle on their hands..
Posted by smclion102
Artists hack Sony Ericsson's Xperia phones to see the unseen universe, use fire as a flash
""MUST WATCH""
http://youtu.be/0lCh6kglyvw
http://youtu.be/UmK7tZMlgMA
http://youtu.be/6lQ0Ny9ue3k
http://youtu.be/WAuEy1Po6N0
http://xperiastudio.com/
Dont miss it
Posted by smclion102
Sony ECM-DS70P Microphone
VIA
http://youtu.be/WAuEy1Po6N0
[ This Message was edited by: smclion102 on 2011-09-12 06:19 ]
Posted by Alihosny
sony is licensing more powervr sgx series 5xt chips for use in consumer products , since vita already has it it may be tablets or xperia range.
source
Posted by Ricky D
@smclion102 That looks seriously cool. Is that just a normal Arc (not an Arc S)? and does it need a special update to run the mic like that?
Posted by smclion102
On 2011-09-12 05:58:44, Ricky D wrote:
@smclion102 That looks seriously cool. Is that just a normal Arc (not an Arc S)? and does it need a special update to run the mic like that?
I have no idea about the microphone I saw that in one of the Xperia Studio Video
Looks Really cool
Posted by HxH
On 2011-09-12 03:18:39, Alihosny wrote:
sony is licensing more powervr sgx series 5xt chips for use in consumer products , since vita already has it it may be tablets or xperia range.
source
could this mean generation sixth of powervr series will not ready in 2012 and this could mean custom SoC using powervr 5xt as gpu in next year of sony products line up.
Posted by Ricky D
On 2011-09-12 07:18:41, smclion102 wrote:
On 2011-09-12 05:58:44, Ricky D wrote:
@smclion102 That looks seriously cool. Is that just a normal Arc (not an Arc S)? and does it need a special update to run the mic like that?
I have no idea about the microphone I saw that in one of the Xperia Studio Video
Looks Really cool
Sorry, didn't realise, I've not been on youtube to watch the vids yet, it's kinda blocked in China..
Posted by Dups!
On 2011-09-12 03:18:39, Alihosny wrote:
sony is licensing more powervr sgx series 5xt chips for use in consumer products , since vita already has it it may be tablets or xperia range.
source
Scratch the Xperia range from that list. Remember that Sony works in isolation to SE in hardware. This is a Sony only transaction. SE are likely going to be using Qualcomm.
Posted by HxH
Time changed, everything changing too
Posted by smclion102
ComcScore's MobiLens research into the five biggest European markets provides an insight into the UK market share enjoyed by major handset manufacturers.
Almost 20 million Android handsets are being used in those countries (UK, Spain, France, Italy Germany), with the UK the biggest market with 6.3 million users.
"Sony Ericsson has a significant portion of the remainder (14.2%) in UK"
http://www.techradar.com/news[....]es-uk-android-handsets-1025165
Posted by randomuser
Sony Walkman Z series announced with Nvidia Dual Core Tegra 2 CPU and 512mb RAM.
Link text...
Nvidia Tegra 2 Dual Core 1ghz CPU
512MB RAM
1080p video playback upto 10Mbps bitrate
Android 2.3
4.3 inch WVGA screen
GPS
E-Compass
Gyro Sensor
HDMI Output
DLNA
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2011-09-13 14:32 ]
Posted by adsada
On 2011-09-13 14:55:21, smclion102 wrote:
ComcScore's MobiLens research into the five biggest European markets provides an insight into the UK market share enjoyed by major handset manufacturers.
Almost 20 million Android handsets are being used in those countries (UK, Spain, France, Italy Germany), with the UK the biggest market with 6.3 million users.
"Sony Ericsson has a significant portion of the remainder (14.2%) in UK"
http://www.techradar.com/news[....]es-uk-android-handsets-1025165
That's not that surprising because a lot of people still own SE's old java 'dumbphones' where walkman/cyber-shot were a complete hit in the UK among youth etc. I know loads of people who own the W995i, and others who still use old phones like the K800i! The UK is one of SE's best markets, could this be down to the fact that their HQ is located in London?
[ This Message was edited by: adsada on 2011-09-13 15:06 ]
Posted by Dups!
On 2011-09-13 16:06:06, adsada wrote:
On 2011-09-13 14:55:21, smclion102 wrote:
ComcScore's MobiLens research into the five biggest European markets provides an insight into the UK market share enjoyed by major handset manufacturers.
Almost 20 million Android handsets are being used in those countries (UK, Spain, France, Italy Germany), with the UK the biggest market with 6.3 million users.
"Sony Ericsson has a significant portion of the remainder (14.2%) in UK"
http://www.techradar.com/news[....]es-uk-android-handsets-1025165
That's not that surprising because a lot of people still own SE's old java 'dumbphones' where walkman/cyber-shot were a complete hit in the UK among youth etc. I know loads of people who own the W995i, and others who still use old phones like the K800i! The UK is one of SE's best markets, could this be down to the fact that their HQ is located in London?
[ This Message was edited by: adsada on 2011-09-13 15:06 ]
No, they are talking strictly Android handsets.
Posted by motvikt
On 2011-09-13 15:23:04, randomuser wrote:
Sony Walkman Z series announced with Nvidia Dual Core Tegra 2 CPU and 512mb RAM.
Link text...
Nvidia Tegra 2 Dual Core 1ghz CPU
512MB RAM
1080p video playback upto 10Mbps bitrate
Android 2.3
4.3 inch WVGA screen
GPS
E-Compass
Gyro Sensor
HDMI Output
DLNA
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2011-09-13 14:32 ]
Way to expensive though... 360$ cheapest
Posted by Dups!
On 2011-09-13 16:40:02, motvikt wrote:
On 2011-09-13 15:23:04, randomuser wrote:
Sony Walkman Z series announced with Nvidia Dual Core Tegra 2 CPU and 512mb RAM.
Link text...
Nvidia Tegra 2 Dual Core 1ghz CPU
512MB RAM
1080p video playback upto 10Mbps bitrate
Android 2.3
4.3 inch WVGA screen
GPS
E-Compass
Gyro Sensor
HDMI Output
DLNA
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2011-09-13 14:32 ]
Way to expensive though... 360$ cheapest
Yes it is!
Look at the audio capabilities of this thing! Give SE the same hardware and it will be one hell of walkman phone. The PMP market is not as lucrative anymore so Sony should allow SE some leverage.
Posted by sambouka
This is the link to the article on Comscore :
http://www.comscore.com/Press[....]ng_Smartphone_Platforms_in_EU5
And here are the global Android phone sales in the big 5 countries in Europe:
As a whole, SE sales are in each of the 5 countries:
UK: 6,3 Million => SE : 894,000
France: 4,5 Million => SE : 783,000
Germany: 4 Million => SE : 584,000
Spain & Italy: 4,9 Million => SE ~ 709,000
TOTAL SE phones : 2,970,000 => 15,1 % Android market share => Position N°3
[ This Message was edited by: sambouka on 2011-09-13 19:03 ]
Posted by adsada
On 2011-09-13 16:25:02, Dups! wrote:
On 2011-09-13 16:06:06, adsada wrote:
On 2011-09-13 14:55:21, smclion102 wrote:
ComcScore's MobiLens research into the five biggest European markets provides an insight into the UK market share enjoyed by major handset manufacturers.
Almost 20 million Android handsets are being used in those countries (UK, Spain, France, Italy Germany), with the UK the biggest market with 6.3 million users.
"Sony Ericsson has a significant portion of the remainder (14.2%) in UK"
http://www.techradar.com/news[....]es-uk-android-handsets-1025165
That's not that surprising because a lot of people still own SE's old java 'dumbphones' where walkman/cyber-shot were a complete hit in the UK among youth etc. I know loads of people who own the W995i, and others who still use old phones like the K800i! The UK is one of SE's best markets, could this be down to the fact that their HQ is located in London?
[ This Message was edited by: adsada on 2011-09-13 15:06 ]
No, they are talking strictly Android handsets.
Right, ignore me
Posted by Dups!
On 2011-09-13 17:05:28, sambouka wrote:
This is the link to the article on Comscore :
http://www.comscore.com/Press[....]ng_Smartphone_Platforms_in_EU5
And here are the global Android phone sales in the big 5 countries in Europe:
As a whole, SE sales are in each of the 5 countries:
UK: 6,3 Million => SE : 894,000
France: 4,5 Million => SE : 783,000
Germany: 4 Million => SE : 584,000
Spain & Italy: 4,9 Million => SE ~ 700,00
[ This Message was edited by: sambouka on 2011-09-13 16:07 ]
Thank you sambouka!!
The is some good news for SE in that report. That this is up to July is another good news. They are in with a chance as long as they start competing.
So, in all, there are basically three manufacturers in it, ie, HTC, Samsung, Sony Ericsson.
This makes me look forward to their Q3 financial report.
Posted by Dups!
... and I'm not surprised to see LG at that position, I've always said that they are rubbish and it is a matter of time before they quit the cellphone business!
I wish Motorola to recover. Hopefully, the deal with Google will spur them on.
Posted by adsada
Analysts from comScore have released the latest smartphone market share trends for the top five European countries (France, Germany, Italy, Spain and the United Kingdom). The data which spans the three months to July 2011 shows that the Xperia smartphones are comfortably in third position when it comes to Android market share, behind HTC and Samsung.
The results differ from market-to-market with Sony Ericsson holding the largest Android market share in Spain (18.8%) and lowest share in Italy (8.3%). Taking the five largest European countries together (EU5) gives SE a market share of 15%, behind HTC at 35% and Samsung at 32%. During this three month period, SE only had its two flagship devices in the market (the Xperia arc and Xperia PLAY). With the breadth of newer Android Xperia models now being released, Sony Ericsson will be hoping for a larger increase in share at the next survey. Click through for a fancy chart of shares across each individual country.
via xperia blog
[ This Message was edited by: adsada on 2011-09-13 22:34 ]
Posted by back2you
October 14, 2011, Sony Ericsson Q3 2011 Result
[ This Message was edited by: back2you on 2011-09-15 13:07 ]
Posted by roanmy
Let's hope it looks like that!
Posted by goldenface
Great performance from just two flagship phones - when you consider how many HTC announced. Nozomi is looking like Arc's upgrade right now.
Posted by motvikt
Some guy in the comments on mobil.se was hyping nozomi. Said it was going to be something special. "The best flagship from SE for a very long time, with new technology to surpass all others". Good quality and a lower price than the competition apparently (dunno if I like the last part). He said he was working at SE, and sometimes you can get inside info from guys in the comments there (everyone from SE is probably reading it). Remember I got some info regarding x10 back in the day
Not much info but at least the hyping for 2012 flagship has begun
Posted by nikos_se
I was thinking about Nozomi,and the specs we know so far about it.It is rumored to have a 4.3"+ HD screen,dual-core 1.5ghz processor and a 12mp(16mp possible?) camera.While all those specs are pretty good,i am afraid that Sony Ericsson are still gonna be behind in the cpu/gpu/ram department.I think that they will be using qualcomm processors again and most probably the msm8260 at 1.5ghz.What leads me to believe that is the fact that HTC(which is always the fastest when it comes to using new qualcomm processors) last year came out with the Desire HD which used the msm8255 processor,found in all 2011 xperia models.This year,the same time around HTC announced the Sensation XE,which uses a dual-core 1.5ghz processor,so maybe that's the same processor that will be on Nozomi.I just hope that Sony Ericsson learns from their past year mistakes,and either choose a different cpu(st-ericsson a9600 or ti omap 4470) or if they stick with qualcomm at least use the new krait processors.Competition is fierce when it comes to cpu/gpu and Sony Ericsson has been behind in this department,by not offering not even one dual-core model this year,when even Sony came out with dual-core tablets and media player.
Could anyone with some insight on SE next year portfolio,give us some hints on the direction SE will go/??
Posted by randomuser
Don't we already know? Was it here or maybe on it168 some guy mentioned that next year SE will have a wider range of Android phones than even Samsung. All using the same CPU/GPU found in the Nozomi - 1.5ghz dual core Snapdragon.
I guess its going to be a repeat 2011 next year. Just with more phones and hopefully more profits. Great for low-mid range buyers but high end will be disappointing as this year.
Flagship phone using same CPU as the low end
android. 
Posted by nikos_se
at least that's a step up...the fact alone that the chip will be produced in 28nm,means lower power consumption,so better battery....we shall see...i just wished they went for st-ericsson a9600...it looks so powerfull in fact sheets
Posted by smclion102
Qualcomm unveils Snapdragon roadmap, 2.5GHz CPUs coming early next year
Senior Vice President of Product Management Cristiano Amon confirmed that the chipmaker's S4 line of silicon will be shipped to manufacturers by the end of this year and should appear in consumer products by the beginning of 2012. Available in single-, dual- or quad-core models, the new, 28nm additions to the Snapdragon family will also support Adreno graphics, 3D and 1080p HD, in addition to 3G and LTE connectivity. If all goes according to schedule, then, we could see a slate of S4-equipped handsets at next year's Mobile World Congress in February, though we'll try to contain our excitement until we get a more specific launch date.
Via
Engadget
androidcomunity
Posted by goldenface
I'm looking forward to MWC already.
Posted by Dups!
Would be very nice and good for them if SE announce Nozomi (arc 2) in January for March release as it is expected or rumoured and then announce a 16mp flagship running on these quad-core processors at MWC for release, say, in June.
Posted by admad
Well quad cores are really not necessery. Really who will need that? I got on my PC quad-core CPU, which are used fully only in really demanding games, and to make advanced calculations. I won't do neither of that on a phone. Just give me dual-core phone with good quality camera(1080p video), and xenon flash. Perfect phone.
[ This Message was edited by: admad on 2011-09-16 11:20 ]
Posted by Dups!
On 2011-09-16 12:18:07, admad wrote:
Well quad cores are really not necessery. Really who will need that? I got on my PC quad-core CPU, which are used fully only in really demanding games, and to make advanced calculations. I won't do neither of that on a phone. Just give me dual-core phone with good quality camera(1080p video), and xenon flash. Perfect phone.
[ This Message was edited by: admad on 2011-09-16 11:20 ]
They need to be seen to be at the top end of competition. This will garner them sales as well. We've been through this before, the better specced Samsungs and HTCs are outselling the SEs. Before someone mentions Motorola and LG, let me point out that Moto have no supply and LG have fallen in the trap of ignoring the smartphone market for too long and are paying for it. They (LG) are also rubbish!
Stop saying phones don't need quad-core phones because when other manufacturers use them and SE don't it will hurt them in sales.
SE are currently not fully competing in hardware and we all can see the results. I've said it time and again that consumers will tend to buy the better specced phone on the sales people's advice.
SE are not Apple with a strong fanatic following, they once had it, that they can always get away with an ordinary phone. They need to assert themselves from here on.
Posted by Indiandawg
On 2011-09-16 12:35:36, Dups! wrote:
On 2011-09-16 12:18:07, admad wrote:
Well quad cores are really not necessery. Really who will need that? I got on my PC quad-core CPU, which are used fully only in really demanding games, and to make advanced calculations. I won't do neither of that on a phone. Just give me dual-core phone with good quality camera(1080p video), and xenon flash. Perfect phone.
[ This Message was edited by: admad on 2011-09-16 11:20 ]
They need to be seen to be at the top end of competition. This will garner them sales as well. We've been through this before, the better specced Samsungs and HTCs are outselling the SEs. Before someone mentions Motorola and LG, let me point out that Moto have no supply and LG have fallen in the trap of ignoring the smartphone market for too long and are paying for it. They (LG) are also rubbish!
Stop saying phones don't need quad-core phones because when other manufacturers use them and SE don't it will hurt them in sales.
SE are currently not fully competing in hardware and we all can see the results. I've said it time and again that consumers will tend to buy the better specced phone on the sales people's advice.
SE are not Apple with a strong fanatic following, they once had it, that they can always get away with an ordinary phone. They need to assert themselves from here on.
That's exactly what I had said long time. SE needs a high end phone even if does not fit in consumers need. The biggest reason HTC and Samsung are selling is because of their hardware. They have shitty UI in front of SE. We understand that we really don't need dual core or quad core but there are millions of other consumers who do not understand and wish to have the best of what they are paying. When you get dual core at the same price of single core, it's but obvious people will buy dual core phones. That's where the sales hurt.
Posted by Indiandawg
Millions of Sony Ericsson fans should buy this company and apple will become history
It's true, but it's not possible!