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Posted by Platia1
Ricky D is absolutely correct.

Sony Ericsson phones reach to Sony's cameras, MP3 players, tablets etc.

If Sony Ericsson release a dual core phone, it will be as powerful or more powerful then the Sony tablets.

Excellent camera demeans the Cybershot line.

Excellent music player demeans the Walkman line (especially now with Android being used).

Currently there is a massive juggling act, and it can really make them look worse for wear. The thing is though, these problems are not Sony specific. Samsung have obviously done a good job with the same constraints, and with the amount of Japanese phones with stunning cameras, it's pretty clear that Sony migth be playing this game a bit conservatively.


Posted by HxH
Referred to massive juggling act above, suddenly after read it I wonder why Apple did successfully business with they own Apple A4 platform application on iPod touch 4 iPhone 4 and iPad.

Did I understand correctly please give me some idea on it?

Posted by rog

On 2011-09-01 04:24:00, Platia1 wrote:
Considering Nozomi is meant to be out soon, surely there will be an announcement soon


Who said nozomi is meant to be out soon?

Posted by Ricky D
@Dups!

Actually I think Sony have the potential to take on Apple & Co at the top of the mobile ladder. Only Apple, Samsung and Sony have the back infrastructure to offer full convergence devices and interactivity with other electronics around the home. HTC don't make PCs, laptops, TVs, PMPs, games consoles etc. Sony do, Apple have laptops and Apple TV set-top boxes too, Samsung have a sexy line of laptops out. Sony could be top 3, SE will drop out of the running sooner or later.

Posted by Indiandawg
I know dual core does not mean a lot but the thing is, to win the customers, SE needs to be with the trend. It's about business. I really don't think samsung and HTC deserve where they have understood what sells the most in the market and what people are looking for. They win the customers who want powerful hardware specs but the customers who do not understand feel this powerful hardware makes the phone on top notch. If you ask them what is dual core the don't know but they do know dual core is advance compared to single core which is true. It's just about getting the right product to the market at the right time. Nobody of us really want 3D on mobile as it's still not the right time, but we all know 3D phones are the future and is going to be brilliant ahead once it takes its place.

I feel SE is doing a great job right now with sticking to android and it's own unique market of Walkman and Xperia series but they also need to look at the hardware specs which wins numerous amount of customers, thus getting them into profits and coming with even more powerful and amazing devices.

Posted by adsada

On 2011-09-01 19:30:34, Indiandawg wrote:
I know dual core does not mean a lot but the thing is, to win the customers, SE needs to be with the trend. It's about business. I really don't think samsung and HTC deserve where they have understood what sells the most in the market and what people are looking for. They win the customers who want powerful hardware specs but the customers who do not understand feel this powerful hardware makes the phone on top notch. If you ask them what is dual core the don't know but they do know dual core is advance compared to single core which is true. It's just about getting the right product to the market at the right time. Nobody of us really want 3D on mobile as it's still not the right time, but we all know 3D phones are the future and is going to be brilliant ahead once it takes its place.

I feel SE is doing a great job right now with sticking to android and it's own unique market of Walkman and Xperia series but they also need to look at the hardware specs which wins numerous amount of customers, thus getting them into profits and coming with even more powerful and amazing devices.



I don't know if I agree, I would say originally smartphones were a small market for business like people who required a PDA like device, with the majority having similar dumbphones. Now the market has changed and so almost everyone now wants a phone with a touchscreen, and because all most all market sectors provide this, you can get really basic touch screen phone, or a really expensive powerful one. Alot of the market don't need power, the most they use is facebook. iPhones are popular because they have become a designer product. It's fashionable to have one. I do agree SE need to get with the game and produce and dual core phone, but I believe this is still covers a small market who want such a feature, or find it necessary to spend a great amount of money for it.

Posted by Legen
Nothing really that impressive from the competition. In terms of phones that is. HTC Titan is ok, but sucky resolution and os. Imagine it with android!
Tablets are pretty sweet. Would have been nice to see a sonyericsson one. Toshiba it is

Posted by Legen
Ooh and i just realised something about the rumoured hd display(720p) phones coming up. Considering they will be running android ice-cream sandwich, which is to unify phones and tablets. Kinda makes sense right?

Posted by Platia1

On 2011-09-01 15:47:28, rog wrote:

On 2011-09-01 04:24:00, Platia1 wrote:
Considering Nozomi is meant to be out soon, surely there will be an announcement soon


Who said nozomi is meant to be out soon?



Leaks of Japanese release schedule's for NTT DoCoMo suggested it would be out at the end of this month (which seemed a little early but the general idea it will be in the next batch of NTT DoCoMo handsets seems fairly accurate)

Perhaps they are false. Makes for a fairly disappointing rest of year if true however.

Posted by king-james
Samsung has neutered all competitors at IFA in Berlin!!

Posted by motvikt

On 2011-09-01 23:23:54, Platia1 wrote:

On 2011-09-01 15:47:28, rog wrote:

On 2011-09-01 04:24:00, Platia1 wrote:
Considering Nozomi is meant to be out soon, surely there will be an announcement soon


Who said nozomi is meant to be out soon?



Leaks of Japanese release schedule's for NTT DoCoMo suggested it would be out at the end of this month (which seemed a little early but the general idea it will be in the next batch of NTT DoCoMo handsets seems fairly accurate)

Perhaps they are false. Makes for a fairly disappointing rest of year if true however.


Wasnt the whole axmaxfan thing last year based on some "leaks" from DoCoMo? Two High ends, one android and one wp7 with release in october or something. Well that turned out to be false


Posted by razec

On 2011-09-01 10:49:53, Platia1 wrote:
Ricky D is absolutely correct.

Sony Ericsson phones reach to Sony's cameras, MP3 players, tablets etc.

If Sony Ericsson release a dual core phone, it will be as powerful or more powerful then the Sony tablets.

Excellent camera demeans the Cybershot line.

Excellent music player demeans the Walkman line (especially now with Android being used).

Currently there is a massive juggling act, and it can really make them look worse for wear. The thing is though, these problems are not Sony specific. Samsung have obviously done a good job with the same constraints, and with the amount of Japanese phones with stunning cameras, it's pretty clear that Sony migth be playing this game a bit conservatively.


So that only proves that Sony is the one responsible for hindering SE's true potential

Posted by Oogamous
www.xperiablog.net/2011/09/02[....]ual-core-4-3-inch-720p-screen/


This seems very exact.

Posted by Platia1
Sounds kinda realistic to me, although the lack of microSD card slot is disappointing. 32GB is enough for me but I would have liked to have seen higher.

No information about the camera which is interesting.

If the phone will be available in March then an announcement on October 1 seems way too early. I guess we won't see it till CES.

Posted by stais
Hmm.

Well, hoping for a Xenon. And a Pro version with keyboard.

Posted by ^^HAMID^^
Can it be Krait SoC ?
[ This Message was edited by: ^^HAMID^^ on 2011-09-02 10:03 ]


Posted by feryshad
march?!

to late!!

it's great for now , but not great for 6 months later!

Posted by io_bg
Finally 1 GB RAM and loads of internal storage!

Posted by motvikt

On 2011-09-02 10:59:14, ^^HAMID^^ wrote:
Can it be Krait SoC ?
[ This Message was edited by: ^^HAMID^^ on 2011-09-02 10:03 ]



We can hope but I doubt it

Posted by smclion102
Always late to the party ..

WTF is the fuss about "MICRO-SIM" God damnit

Posted by adsada
sounds like they're trying to make it more like an iPhone

Posted by Dups!
I don't know what to think of this device. This is a 2011, Q4 phone that will be released next year in March! Its saving grace will be a brilliant camera, something like a good 12 to 16mp cause most of those specs are already out in other phones.

I read somewhere that Qualcomm's 1.8Ghz, dual-core processors are already out and you can just see a Galaxy SIII with that processing power.

Let's see what happens next year. This seems like a decent phone though.

Posted by Legen
March is too late!!! People spend most during Christmas holiday. Isn't that common sense?

Posted by motvikt

On 2011-09-02 16:48:25, aurelius wrote:

On 2011-09-02 15:10:02, Dups! wrote:
I don't know what to think of this device. This is a 2011, Q4 phone that will be released next year in March! Its saving grace will be a brilliant camera, something like a good 12 to 16mp cause most of those specs are already out in other phones.

I read somewhere that Qualcomm's 1.8Ghz, dual-core processors are already out and you can just see a Galaxy SIII with that processing power.

Let's see what happens next year. This seems like a decent phone though.



The demands are high if you call this phone "decent"


Well maybe decent compared to the new monsters from HTC and Samsung

Posted by Dups!
... hence the statement: 'This is a 2011, Q4 phone that will be released next year in March'.
[ This Message was edited by: Dups! on 2011-09-02 17:27 ]


Posted by king-james

On 2011-09-02 10:13:36, Oogamous wrote:
http://www.xperiablog.net/201[....]ual-core-4-3-inch-720p-screen/


This seems very exact.



Sounds to be the ARC-Successor!


Posted by Dups!
Their problems started in mid-2006 but they did manage to release the X1 which was better than the competition at announcement, then Satio- again superphone at the time of announcement. Last year it was the X10 which was on par with the best except it was outdated in the software department. So, why are you saying they can't afford to compete now when they can but keep making blunders?

The reason some of us lament the lack of progress within SE is because we would like the company to get back to where it was before- at the top of the food chain. We also know what the company is capable of and the fact that it has two powerful parents makes it harder for some of us to accept the harsh reality that SE is fading into obscurity.

Posted by Detox
Sounds good to me . How likely is it that this will be announced on the 1st October? If so, that would be a long path until March...
[ This Message was edited by: Detox on 2011-09-02 22:18 ]


Posted by motvikt
I seriously hope they ditch qualcomm as their chip supplier. HTC and qualcomm are to close and SE is always coming in second there. When SE release a dualcore, HTC will already have a phone with krait...

aurelius do you have any news about ST-ericsson? (are they even making money btw? seems no one are using their chips? )

Posted by hydro-
March is good for me as that's when my X10 contract runs out! Wow, so the X10 will be two years old by then! And It's still going pretty strong if you ask me!

Posted by Shino03

On 2011-09-02 23:08:19, Dups! wrote:
Their problems started in mid-2006 but they did manage to release the X1 which was better than the competition at announcement, then Satio- again superphone at the time of announcement. Last year it was the X10 which was on par with the best except it was outdated in the software department. So, why are you saying they can't afford to compete now when they can but keep making blunders?

The reason some of us lament the lack of progress within SE is because we would like the company to get back to where it was before- at the top of the food chain. We also know what the company is capable of and the fact that it has two powerful parents makes it harder for some of us to accept the harsh reality that SE is fading into obscurity.



+1 used to be the game changer back in the old days.(e.g. S700 and K750)
[ This Message was edited by: Shino03 on 2011-09-03 05:57 ]


Posted by HxH

On 2011-09-02 23:26:04, motvikt wrote:
I seriously hope they ditch qualcomm as their chip supplier. HTC and qualcomm are to close and SE is always coming in second there. When SE release a dualcore, HTC will already have a phone with krait...

aurelius do you have any news about ST-ericsson? (are they even making money btw? seems no one are using their chips? )


I'm fully supported this statement, would love to see use their in-house production (at least part of).

If haven't catch up market by release Dual Core Krait almost same time with HTC, I mean stick to MSM8260 at 45nm. Situation could goes worse than today. Better to looking for anew chip supplier.

I really wonder why couldn't access to rich-resources from both parent and use them to work more efficiency. (Multimedia contents from Sony for example)
[ This Message was edited by: HxH on 2011-09-03 07:46 ]


Posted by Dups!
As someone mentioned a few pages back, the new ST-Ericsson Nova processors are potent.

Apparently Nokia will use the U8500 processors in their upcoming Windows phones. What boggles the mind is why haven't SE ever used these processors before when Ericsson owns half the company? I know Nokia has used these processors before in their Symbian phones.

SE should sign with ST-Ericsson and get these processors. The Nova 9600 seems like a monster of a processor. The 9540 is actually better than anything that is out on the phones today and to think that it is just a step below the 9600 is astounding.

These dual processors are running at 2.5Ghz and 1.8Ghz and are already announced.

I agree with movikt, SE will alwasy play second fiddle to HTC as long as they stay with Qualcomm.

To think that the one parent has access to some serious processors... and some of you wonder why I complain so much about their current performance as opposed to the competition.

How in the world do you go wrong when everything you need your parents can provide at a reasonable fee?

Instead they licence brand names from one parent and ignore some serious firepower.

Posted by NightBlade
Please, gods, let the new flagship have a xenon flash! I'd take that over any fancy screen resolution or processor.

Posted by HxH
Qualcomm platform isn't that bad but they usually stay one step behind competitors at a time,
and primary concerns is about GPU that not powerful enough to compete in same league.
Adreno 200 < PowerVR530
Adreno 205 =< PowerVR540 (a year behind since Samsung runs the PowerVR540 in their Galaxy S)
Adreno 220 < Mali 400 (though this not fairly compare when Adreno 220 is single processor while Mali 400 in S2 is quad unit )

Thank you aurelius for sharing such that information, I really wish they could fix it soon!

Btw, I read some other forum related to hardware processor and someone mention about U8500 and Exynos
They wrote that U8500 has only single core of Mali 400 while Exynos platform is quad.
Anyway I think Samsung couldn't use the fully utilized power because of weakness in software side and battery hindrance.

Posted by arcmhyke

Adreno 200 < PowerVR530
Adreno 205 =< PowerVR540 (a year behind since Samsung runs the PowerVR540 in their Galaxy S)
Adreno 220 < Mali 400 (though this not fairly compare when Adreno 220 is single processor while Mali 400 in S2 is quad unit )


Wow, Thanks for posting that, I've been Enlightened

So in that Data if we are going to compare it Fairly Adreno 220 that would be equal(=) to PowerVR540 right? but yes, It's almost a year behind but in this article

"That's why our single core chips now are as good as a standard dual core, and our dual core will be as good as a standard quad core.


What's your reaction to this? Are they telling the truth?

"Regardless of GPU and CPU power, we're in a strong position because of our experience of optimising and integrating our hardware with software and the actual user experience,"


They're pretty confident when they said that, knowing that they are a little behind in the competition
[ This Message was edited by: mhyke on 2011-09-04 04:42 ]


Posted by HxH
IMHO, Adreno 220 (HTC Sensation, EVO 3D) is greater than PowerVR540 (200Mhz Galaxy S version) for 30% but perhaps equal on PowerVR540 (300Mhz TI OMAP 4430 in LG Optimus 3D), anyway I'm not yet see any benchmark compare between these two models.

Adreno 205 is sometime equal or greater to PowerVR540 but a year late when come to market.

Nope, I'm not agreed on that statement especially when come into web page load/render and hardcore graphic games (not much available anyway) dual core dominating those helpless single core. But I understand that try to interpreted as overall user experienced (skin UI) and general software is better optimized (it also late when come to market) than competitors for those single core model to date. Even sometime benchmark doesn't mean anything when come to actual real life experienced
[ This Message was edited by: HxH on 2011-09-04 14:04 ]


Posted by xenia
After update to 368th i think, that 2cores is just marketing point. MyArc now super fast even in stock browser with flash on. Software optimisation making good things)

Posted by motvikt
http://www.anandtech.com/show[....]ung-to-manufacture-ps-vita-cpu

Slap one of these into a SE phone, will sell millions

Posted by HxH
Hard to say I'm not big fan of Korean, but I have to agreed about processor manufacturing is very good one and even bad my iPhone 3G[S]'s processor is also their product as well.

Too bad, I guess TSMC won't available to produce for PS Vita because iPhone 5 also in production as well.

In next few years coming, Samsuung probably to launch new product same as Playstation handheld like they did with iPhone and iPad from Apple.
[ This Message was edited by: HxH on 2011-09-04 15:48 ]


Posted by king-james
SONY Walkman with Android



http://www.areamobile.de/news[....]mentiert-mit-ipod-touch-killer

Posted by Oogamous
Uh oh...

A Good looking Sony + Walkman + Android Phone without the Ericsson? Doesn't look like is going to be in the fray much longer...


Edit: Sorry, it's not a phone... It's in the iPod touch segment.. Pure music player.
[ This Message was edited by: Oogamous on 2011-09-04 19:51 ]


Posted by motvikt

On 2011-09-04 20:46:57, Oogamous wrote:
Uh oh...

A Good looking Sony + Walkman + Android Phone without the Ericsson? Doesn't look like is going to be in the fray much longer...


Edit: Sorry, it's not a phone... It's in the iPod touch segment.. Pure music player.
[ This Message was edited by: Oogamous on 2011-09-04 19:51 ]



Funny thing is that it probably has better specs than arc

Posted by back2you

On 2011-09-02 10:13:36, Oogamous wrote:
http://www.xperiablog.net/201[....]ual-core-4-3-inch-720p-screen/


This seems very exact.



I think the announcement Xperia DUO at this year in October OR November .

waiting ...

Posted by smclion102

On 2011-09-04 21:38:52, back2you wrote:

On 2011-09-02 10:13:36, Oogamous wrote:
http://www.xperiablog.net/201[....]ual-core-4-3-inch-720p-screen/


This seems very exact.



I think the announcement Xperia DUO at this year in October OR November .

waiting ...


will repeat SATIO's History If they announce this OCT n launch March..It is a Suicide

No more announcements these year or maybe they might surprise us this OCT only CEO knows lol


Posted by Dups!
@smclion102

I agree! It's suicide if they announce it this year for release next year.

Not that it will be ahead of anything next year but it will be better to announce it next year for release in the next month or announce it now in October and release it in November or December.



Posted by cableguy
i would say they will announce it at the CES in January next year and then start selling it in March, so it wouldnt be too bad.

Posted by yuunanase

On 2011-09-04 21:28:29, motvikt wrote:

On 2011-09-04 20:46:57, Oogamous wrote:
Uh oh...

A Good looking Sony + Walkman + Android Phone without the Ericsson? Doesn't look like is going to be in the fray much longer...


Edit: Sorry, it's not a phone... It's in the iPod touch segment.. Pure music player.
[ This Message was edited by: Oogamous on 2011-09-04 19:51 ]



Funny thing is that it probably has better specs than arc


You bet. Tegra 2, OLED screen and S-master. Put a Exmor sensor and we can all ditch SE.

Posted by smclion102

On 2011-09-05 12:51:26, cableguy wrote:
i would say they will announce it at the CES in January next year and then start selling it in March, so it wouldnt be too bad.

Ya that is obvious something at CES and MWC too i guess

Posted by Dups!

On 2011-09-05 15:34:09, yuunanase wrote:

On 2011-09-04 21:28:29, motvikt wrote:

On 2011-09-04 20:46:57, Oogamous wrote:
Uh oh...

A Good looking Sony + Walkman + Android Phone without the Ericsson? Doesn't look like is going to be in the fray much longer...


Edit: Sorry, it's not a phone... It's in the iPod touch segment.. Pure music player.
[ This Message was edited by: Oogamous on 2011-09-04 19:51 ]



Funny thing is that it probably has better specs than arc


You bet. Tegra 2, OLED screen and S-master. Put a Exmor sensor and we can all ditch SE.



... and what stops them from putting all that into an SE phone?

This is what some of us are saying, Sony is lacking direction.

How big is the portable music players' market after the cellphones have taken over? Why don't they just push SE to a much higher level instead?




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