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Posted by smclion102
If DUO is announced in OCT dont you guys think it will have the similar SPEC as S II/Sensation ??
dont you think its a waste i mean they can very well build DUO with Nxt gen Snapdragon S4[28nm ,Adreno 225 GPU]???Atleast that will be in competition with others NXT year??

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DUO with Snapdragon S4+ 8mp Xenon+ Icecream sandwich =Winner or better sales than ARC


Posted by Xajel

On 2011-08-14 08:06:19, smclion102 wrote:
If DUO is announced in OCT dont you guys think it will have the similar SPEC as S II/Sensation ??
dont you think its a waste i mean they can very well build DUO with Nxt gen Snapdragon S4[28nm ,Adreno 225 GPU]???Atleast that will be in competition with others NXT year??

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DUO with Snapdragon S4+ 8mp Xenon+ Icecream sandwich =Winner or better sales than ARC


28nm Snapdragons (S4) are only meant to be sampling in 4Q11 ( and we're still in Q3 ), so don't even think about having one product in 2011 using S4... at least 1Q12 is required for such products... if any company have a very fast production timeline then late 2011 will be very optimistic when S4 sampling started directly in early 4Q11

Posted by smclion102

On 2011-08-14 10:05:18, Xajel wrote:

On 2011-08-14 08:06:19, smclion102 wrote:
If DUO is announced in OCT dont you guys think it will have the similar SPEC as S II/Sensation ??
dont you think its a waste i mean they can very well build DUO with Nxt gen Snapdragon S4[28nm ,Adreno 225 GPU]???Atleast that will be in competition with others NXT year??

----
DUO with Snapdragon S4+ 8mp Xenon+ Icecream sandwich =Winner or better sales than ARC


28nm Snapdragons (S4) are only meant to be sampling in 4Q11 ( and we're still in Q3 ), so don't even think about having one product in 2011 using S4... at least 1Q12 is required for such products... if any company have a very fast production timeline then late 2011 will be very optimistic when S4 sampling started directly in early 4Q11


Thats wht i ment .. we shoud have DUO with S4 in 2012 whn its available..
what i ment was SE sud not waste time launching DUO with S3 this year..
Go BIG with S4

Posted by HxH

On 2011-08-13 22:32:44, mediar wrote:

On 2011-08-13 21:51:59, Karun wrote:
Whatever it is, I just hope there are no leaks. SE please wow us this time, unlike the Satio.



Fixed.



Absolutely Agreed!

Best hope for Q4 2011 announcement and must hit shelves in Christmas or at least Jan-Feb 2012 someone wake me up!
The Nova A9540, built in 32nm, uses a dual-core Cortex-A9 running at up to 1.8 GHz and delivers graphics performance up to four times that of the U8500 and is sampling H2 2011.

Posted by rss_ndrsn
^That's a bad idea. SE has been left out already by the competition, and not realeasing dual-core phone this year would just worsen their situation. What SE have to do is launch a device with following features: 1.5ghz OMAP 4460 dual-core processor and Wi-Link 7.0; 1gb RAM and 16/32gb internal memory; 4.3 inch 720p screen, 8/12/16 mpx camera and 1080p HD video recording, 2mpx front cam, NFC, 1750 mAh battery, Mhl support, stereo speaker/s; quadband 2G, 3.5G, and HSPA+ 21mbps; same design as Arc but made with metal casing. I believe a phone with these features would be able to compete with what the competitors have to offer. These features are very current and available to be incorporate in any device. Beside, I do not think any competitor would release a device with quad core processor or 20 mpx camera anytime soon. So this would just do for SE Flagship this year.
[ This Message was edited by: rss_ndrsn on 2011-08-14 23:55 ]


Posted by Dups!
You guys are supportive of the disappointing SE. You wish and hope for the best when you know exactly how the results are going to be like.

Leave room for disappointment, as per norm SE will be behind somewhere. If it is a ground-breaking device then it will be released after Samsung or HTC have released their competing devices. If it is a dual core phone then it will be a 1.2ghz one, that's just what SE has become.

Frankly, I don't expect much anymore, in fact, I'm having serious doubts about them releasing a dual core phone this year.

Posted by argiriano

On 2011-08-15 00:53:54, rss_ndrsn wrote:
^That's a bad idea. SE has been left out already by the competition, and not realeasing dual-core phone this year would just worsen their situation. What SE have to do is launch a device with following features: 1.5ghz OMAP 4460 dual-core processor and Wi-Link 7.0; 1gb RAM and 16/32gb internal memory; 4.3 inch 720p screen, 8/12/16 mpx camera and 1080p HD video recording, 2mpx front cam, NFC, 1750 mAh battery, Mhl support, stereo speaker/s; quadband 2G, 3.5G, and HSPA+ 21mbps; same design as Arc but made with metal casing. I believe a phone with these features would be able to compete with what the competitors have to offer. These features are very current and available to be incorporate in any device. Beside, I do not think any competitor would release a device with quad core processor or 20 mpx camera anytime soon. So this would just do for SE Flagship this year.
[ This Message was edited by: rss_ndrsn on 2011-08-14 23:55 ]


Well, there is already rumors about HTC and Samsung devices with the same specs for Q4...

has learnt their lesson from 2010 with softwere issues, I hope they will learn the hardwere underestimating mistake from 2011... cause smartphone customers have become more greedy with every year, that`s why SGS has become a hit, and SGS2 will beat it`s record, because it`s still a benchmark device and make people going crazy.

Posted by smclion102
Woooooo Google acquiring Motorola Mobility..

, At a price of $40 per share for a total of about $12.5 billion .. Atleast Moto will Live for Many More Years Now... Google Saved Moto ...
What About Now who will save Them

Bert Nordberg, President & CEO, Sony Ericsson:
I welcome Google's commitment to defending Android and its partners.


And somewhere is biting its nails...
[ This Message was edited by: smclion102 on 2011-08-15 18:02 ]


Posted by jack00

On 2011-08-15 18:43:44, smclion102 wrote:
Woooooo Google acquiring Motorola Mobility..

, At a price of $40 per share for a total of about $12.5 billion .. Atleast Moto will Live for Many More Years Now... Google Saved Moto ...
What About Now who will save Them

Bert Nordberg, President & CEO, Sony Ericsson:
I welcome Google's commitment to defending Android and its partners.


oh come on, would you really wish that sony ericsson gets bought by a third party
this would probably even kill them more
in my opinion sony and ericsson just don't show enough commitment for sony ericsson (since its existence), opening up for a third party won't help them either
sony has the resources and ericsson has them, they just don't work efficient - or maybe don't distribute them as needed



Posted by king-james
@back2you

Why October now? You said SE will announce something in September... So SE don't present anything in the IFA Berlin in 18days? I know that Samsung will announce many new devices there. I'm really dissapointed from you and from SE too, if they don't show something new there... And remember, 1st October is Saturday!
[ This Message was edited by: king-james on 2011-08-15 23:36 ]


Posted by back2you

On 2011-08-16 00:35:14, king-james wrote:
@back2you

Why October now? You said SE will announce something in September... So SE don't present anything in the IFA Berlin in 18days? I know that Samsung will announce many new devices there. I'm really dissapointed from you and from SE too, if they don't show something new there... And remember, 1st October is Saturday!
[ This Message was edited by: king-james on 2011-08-15 23:36 ]



NO I said device available in September , anyway SONY present in the IFA Berlin

Posted by king-james
Even available. Where?
SONY is not SE.

Posted by back2you

On 2011-08-16 01:10:17, king-james wrote:
Even available. Where?
SONY is not SE.


Waiting for the next announcement ...

SonyEricsson announced Xperia ARC @ CES 2011 with SONY Conference

Posted by Karun
Which device will be available in September?
So is there no announcement before Oct?

Posted by koss
Eldar said a year ago that Motorola and SonyEricsson will die. Motorola just died.. will die soon... (

Posted by adsada
guys just a tip, I would ignore anything back2you says, its mostly wrong and I am doubtful he actually has any inside knowledge.

Posted by argiriano
it`s official now that HTC and Samsung will go with new superphones in October, and seeing even China release Xiaomi 1,5GHz dualcore for 310$ I think will need to change their priorities as soon as posible and bring some multi-core goodness in Q4 or they will suffer even more next year.
Things don`t look good at all... hardwere batlefield is mooving too fast for , they need to react, now.

Posted by smclion102

On 2011-08-16 11:39:16, adsada wrote:
guys just a tip, I would ignore anything back2you says, its mostly wrong and I am doubtful he actually has any inside knowledge.


+1
Agree with You

Posted by motvikt

On 2011-08-16 11:39:16, adsada wrote:
guys just a tip, I would ignore anything back2you says, its mostly wrong and I am doubtful he actually has any inside knowledge.



Just so you know, all the "insiders" we have now are just posting information, rumours and pictures from sebbs.it168 (chinese forum).

Posted by smclion102

On 2011-08-16 14:42:32, motvikt wrote:

On 2011-08-16 11:39:16, adsada wrote:
guys just a tip, I would ignore anything back2you says, its mostly wrong and I am doubtful he actually has any inside knowledge.



Just so you know, all the "insiders" we have now are just posting information, rumours and pictures from sebbs.it168 (chinese forum).

+1
We are lazy to go that site... So these Ppl just Copy Paste From that Chinese Site...


Posted by Karun

On 2011-08-16 11:36:50, koss wrote:
Eldar said a year ago that Motorola and SonyEricsson will die. Motorola just died.. will die soon... (

These companies have/might be seen in a new avatar, but they wont disappear from the scene. Motorola is not dead. And neither will SE die. Even in the worst case scenario, they'll be back in a different way than our minds currently perceive them as.

Posted by rog

On 2011-08-16 09:03:10, Karun wrote:
Which device will be available in September?
So is there no announcement before Oct?


None.
And yes, there will be. But no reason to get excited though, unfortunately.
Oh, and one more thing: where is the "ignore user" function on this board (not talking about you, Karun )
[ This Message was edited by: rog on 2011-08-16 18:52 ]


Posted by smclion102

On 2011-08-16 19:51:41, rog wrote:

On 2011-08-16 09:03:10, Karun wrote:
Which device will be available in September?
So is there no announcement before Oct?


None.
And yes, there will be. But no reason to get excited though, unfortunately.
Oh, and one more thing: where is the "ignore user" function on this board (not talking about you, Karun )
[ This Message was edited by: rog on 2011-08-16 18:52 ]



ohhh Noooo
u will Never Learn is it??

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@Rog
Is that Device at-least better than ARC ...
Am gona Switch to Samsung/HTC

Posted by Karun
@Rog
Thanks for clearing it out. Seems like no dual core this year. Well, lets hope there are a few well rounded devices which help SE break even.
No problem, I havn't been that annoying, I hope
Do let me know too if you manage to figure out the ignore user bit

Posted by king-james
Yeah, thanks for the information rog! Now we know it better. You have redeemed us from suffering. But I'm lil bit dissapointed from SE...


Posted by back2you
WOW NOW Im copy and paste man



I do not care for your words Was added to ignore list
[ This Message was edited by: back2you on 2011-08-17 00:03 ]



Posted by motvikt

On 2011-08-16 19:51:41, rog wrote:

On 2011-08-16 09:03:10, Karun wrote:
Which device will be available in September?
So is there no announcement before Oct?


None.
And yes, there will be. But no reason to get excited though, unfortunately.
Oh, and one more thing: where is the "ignore user" function on this board (not talking about you, Karun )
[ This Message was edited by: rog on 2011-08-16 18:52 ]



Nice to get some real info, thx man We already sort of knew there would be no dualcore 2011. The hottest rumour seems to be an overclocked arc.

Posted by K750ier
@ rog:
+100
It's only rog'n'roll but I like it...What a hit!! !!
Thanx for clearing SOMETHING.


Posted by back2you

On 2011-08-16 11:36:50, koss wrote:
Eldar said a year ago that Motorola and SonyEricsson will die. Motorola just died.. will die soon... (


I ignore anything from Eldar

I'm sure that Sony Ericsson make a profit in 3Q and 4Q @ 2011
[ This Message was edited by: back2you on 2011-08-17 00:19 ]


Posted by yuunanase
I remember Bert said that there will be android devices below 100. Maybe there will be announcement for that?

Posted by Xajel

On 2011-08-16 11:36:50, koss wrote:
Eldar said a year ago that Motorola and SonyEricsson will die. Motorola just died.. will die soon... (


Yeah Eldar said also that Arc sucks... but guess what !!

Posted by back2you

On 2011-08-17 08:42:31, Xajel wrote:

On 2011-08-16 11:36:50, koss wrote:
Eldar said a year ago that Motorola and SonyEricsson will die. Motorola just died.. will die soon... (


Yeah Eldar said also that Arc sucks... but guess what !!



Eldar said again again

Eldar big fansboy for samsung

i don't care about What Eldar said .

I remember when he said that Sony Ericsson will be sold to Siemens



Posted by Dups!

On 2011-08-15 13:36:57, Dups! wrote:
You guys are supportive of the disappointing SE. You wish and hope for the best when you know exactly how the results are going to be like.

Leave room for disappointment, as per norm SE will be behind somewhere. If it is a ground-breaking device then it will be released after Samsung or HTC have released their competing devices. If it is a dual core phone then it will be a 1.2ghz one, that's just what SE has become.

Frankly, I don't expect much anymore, in fact, I'm having serious doubts about them releasing a dual core phone this year.



rog basically confirmed my suspicions that SE has nothing in the way of a dual core phone this year.

I hope, for their sake, that they will be able to compete head-on with Samsung and HTC next year (that's if they actually manage to make any profits this year) and not be stuck with dual core phones when the two would be on quad-core.

Dual core phones will probably be relegated to mid-end in the second half of next year.



Posted by Karun
So if we have to speculate, and as some sources suggest, SE will launch atleast 3 devices on Oct 1.

First up will be the 1.4Ghz single core powered device, sporting HD - 720p resolution.

Anything on the other two? The other has the same resolution as the Arc with a 1.4ghz processor? Maybe with a slide out keyboard?

Btw..just curious. When are quad core powered devices slated to be outed? H2 2012?

Posted by goldenface
No, I didn't think there would be a dual core from SE this year. I'd like to see them skip dual and to straight to quad. They need the tech blog column inches in order to ramp up the hype.

Posted by king-james
I prefer more 720p screen than dual-core.

Posted by Dups!

On 2011-08-17 22:50:50, goldenface wrote:
No, I didn't think there would be a dual core from SE this year. I'd like to see them skip dual and to straight to quad. They need the tech blog column inches in order to ramp up the hype.



That would be my wish too. If they announce a quad-core phone at MWC then I'd be happy with their dual-core phones that will be coming out next year, they will be perfect supporting casts to their mighty quad-core super phone or phones. Obviously, the single core phones will be low-mid-end phones next year.

@karun

The last time I checked, quad-core processors were slated for H2 of next year.

Posted by masseur
why do we need quad core? I had the Samsung Galaxy S2 and yes it was quick but unless apps get alot more CPU intensive on phones (when the battery certainly can't keep up yet) I can't imagine wanting quad core. This just sounds like the CPU mghz race and the camera megapixel race all over again.

I reckon that dual core should be sufficient for most mobile phone apps and its really down to O/S gurus to maximise performance of their O/S rather than do what Microsoft did prior to windows 7 and rely on hardware to provide performance.

Posted by smclion102

On 2011-08-18 09:20:32, masseur wrote:
why do we need quad core? I had the Samsung Galaxy S2 and yes it was quick but unless apps get alot more CPU intensive on phones (when the battery certainly can't keep up yet) I can't imagine wanting quad core. This just sounds like the CPU mghz race and the camera megapixel race all over again.

I reckon that dual core should be sufficient for most mobile phone apps and its really down to O/S gurus to maximise performance of their O/S rather than do what Microsoft did prior to windows 7 and rely on hardware to provide performance.



Yaa totally agree Dual COre more than Enough for smartphones ,Quad Core would be better for Tablets ..

Its Like Windows Vista VS Win7

Posted by Mizzle

On 2011-08-18 09:20:32, masseur wrote:
why do we need quad core? I had the Samsung Galaxy S2 and yes it was quick but unless apps get alot more CPU intensive on phones (when the battery certainly can't keep up yet) I can't imagine wanting quad core. This just sounds like the CPU mghz race and the camera megapixel race all over again.

I reckon that dual core should be sufficient for most mobile phone apps and its really down to O/S gurus to maximise performance of their O/S rather than do what Microsoft did prior to windows 7 and rely on hardware to provide performance.



Android versions prior to Honeycomb don't take advantage of more than one processing unit at a time, so that's basically why you don't feel much of a difference or improvement.

Posted by masseur
indeed. most of the perceived speed improvement is simply the faster 1ghz processor.

Apps can individually take advantage of the dual core outside of the O/S support which still leaves plenty of available power when phones do have honeycomb (or later), which confirms my argument of why we yet need quad core?

Posted by Mizzle

On 2011-08-18 09:39:57, masseur wrote:
indeed. most of the perceived speed improvement is simply the faster 1ghz processor.

Apps can individually take advantage of the dual core outside of the O/S support which still leaves plenty of available power when phones do have honeycomb (or later), which confirms my argument of why we yet need quad core?



Sorry masseur, I must have misread your post.

Anyway, I do see a need for more processing power on phones as well as tablets, though not necessarily as much on the CPU. If you have a look at Tegra 3 (Kal-El), you'll note that it has lower power consumption than its predecessor, which was used in a number of phones, including the LG Optimus 2X. With the upcoming release of Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich), the OS will have greater hardware requirements and it will rely more on the GPU for giving that butter smooth experience.

GPU acceleration for user interfaces was added in Honeycomb, and it's such a great improvement compared to previous versions. With GPU acceleration in ICS, manufacturers will need to include great GPU's in their products and there's no denying that Tegra is perhaps the best choice right now.
[ This Message was edited by: Mizzle on 2011-08-18 08:56 ]


Posted by Dups!
Exactly, Miz!

Posted by motvikt
But SE will only use qualcomm in their phones. Perhaps also ST-ericsson some day. Also the new nvidia quadcore is pretty big (in actual size), 80mm2 (tegra2 49mm2) so maybe it will be hard to fit in a phone.

I think SE will use the normal qualcomm dualcore. Best case scenario maybe krait, but SE seems to suck at getting hardware out fast so i doubt it. I dont even think they can compete with processors, they should focus on cameras and interface.

edit. Hope SE understands the importance of this
http://androidandme.com/2011/[....]8nm-device-this-calendar-year/

HTC will probably have a monster device ready with this
[ This Message was edited by: motvikt on 2011-08-18 11:55 ]


Posted by Xajel

On 2011-08-18 09:55:05, Mizzle wrote:

On 2011-08-18 09:39:57, masseur wrote:
indeed. most of the perceived speed improvement is simply the faster 1ghz processor.

Apps can individually take advantage of the dual core outside of the O/S support which still leaves plenty of available power when phones do have honeycomb (or later), which confirms my argument of why we yet need quad core?



Sorry masseur, I must have misread your post.

Anyway, I do see a need for more processing power on phones as well as tablets, though not necessarily as much on the CPU. If you have a look at Tegra 3 (Kal-El), you'll note that it has lower power consumption than its predecessor, which was used in a number of phones, including the LG Optimus 2X. With the upcoming release of Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich), the OS will have greater hardware requirements and it will rely more on the GPU for giving that butter smooth experience.

GPU acceleration for user interfaces was added in Honeycomb, and it's such a great improvement compared to previous versions. With GPU acceleration in ICS, manufacturers will need to include great GPU's in their products and there's no denying that Tegra is perhaps the best choice right now.
[ This Message was edited by: Mizzle on 2011-08-18 08:56 ]



It's a wide misunderstood that Tegra is the best in GPU...
Tegra 2 toke the crown for short time... and is best for phones not tablets, as most Tegra 2 based tablets ( including Xoom and Transformer ) have some lagging when handling the UI in the tablet high resolution screen as Tegra 2 was designed to be a phone SOC not a tablet SOC + GPU wasn't that important that days ( no accelerated UI yet )
currently iPad 2's A5 is the best, but A5 in a phone ( iPhone 5 ) will use lower performance chip ( CPU and GPU sides ) in order to reduce battery consumption...
before A5, TI had the best GPU in wild... as they used the PowerVR SGX544 GPU...
Qualcomm uses their own Adreno GPU's ( bought from AMD ) and these parts are same level as Tegra 2 or older PowerVR SGX540 depending on exact model ( Adreno 205/220 )...

the A5 in iPad2 uses PowerVR SGX543MP2 ( which is basically 2x SGX543 ) and this is still not the fastest part

ST Ericsson uses Mali which is powerful too, but not as powerful as what PowerVR have...

Posted by Mizzle

On 2011-08-18 13:24:13, Xajel wrote:
[...] as most Tegra 2 based tablets ( including Xoom and Transformer ) have some lagging when handling the UI in the tablet high resolution screen as Tegra 2 was designed to be a phone SOC not a tablet SOC + GPU wasn't that important that days ( no accelerated UI yet )


That's a ridiculous point and completely invalid. Honeycomb is almost fully GPU accelerated, only some rarely used components are not yet accelerated. The Honeycomb launcher is written in Renderscript, utilizing both CPU and GPU power on the device.

Besides, you can't say that one GPU is not more powerful than another because it lags in some areas. That could be caused by software. Besides, there's no way to fairly compare Tegra and A5, because they don't run on the same platform and Objective C programming (used in iOS) is more efficient compared to Java, which is used in most Android applications. Renderscript is native programming as well, so that'll be quite efficient.

Also, it's worth point out that I've got a Honeycomb tablet myself that runs perfectly smooth without any sort of lagging. There goes your point... again.
[ This Message was edited by: Mizzle on 2011-08-18 13:08 ]


Posted by mediar
This screenshot was posted today on SE's product blog:



Look at the Media folder on bottom dockbar. New kind of folders?

Posted by lolstebbo

On 2011-08-18 19:29:27, mediar wrote:
This screenshot was posted today on SE's product blog:



Look at the Media folder on bottom dockbar. New kind of folders?




I smell an impending Apple lawsuit if that is the new folder.

Posted by djin
Tegra 3, is quad core, and uses less power than tegra2. I really look forward to quad core phones, even dual core phones struggle at times for .mkv files..

Also Sony ericsson was able to have 1500mh battery on the xperia ray, which was pretty small compared to the arc's battery, so I think sony ericsson should be able to put in 1800-2200mh battery in the bigger form...

Posted by koss
Eldar Murtazin said today that "Sony Ericsson has no chances as well and its disappearance is the question of time. Times are changing and these companies have no place in the market. Even Nokia, which seemed invincible several years ago is going down."


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