Posted by goldenface
Thanks for those specs. Just like I imagined, quite small and slim.
Posted by tranced
...and powerful!
@FMW300i: the dot at the left upper side looks like a front camera. Or it's a light sensor?
Posted by FMW300
Camera I believe. I think they mentioned announcement this month also, not too sure....
Posted by io_bg
On 2011-06-02 02:11:02, FMW300i wrote:
Deal-breaker for me: Possibly no camera button!
Deal-breaker for me: Possibly no camera button!
What a shame
Posted by HxH
It depend on XPERIA neo still in pipeline for mass production or not, if not and put this ST18 up instead it will be okay
If neo still on and also have this one up as well, I don't understand why they will have to duplicate such a thing
with all same techs & hardware just different screen size from 3 < 3.3 < 3.7 < 4.2
it shouldn't have much differentiate in the market when available
it probably better if ST18 come up in latter part of this year with MSM8255T w/ 3.5" in upper end segment, to keep themselves up in this competitive market.
As for camera button, it must have for
unless they just another following Apple's trend[ This Message was edited by: HxH on 2011-06-02 12:47 ]
Posted by huiyi
On 2011-06-02 12:51:21, io_bg wrote:
On 2011-06-02 02:11:02, FMW300i wrote:
Deal-breaker for me: Possibly no camera button!
Deal-breaker for me: Possibly no camera button!
What a shame
Yes. . Is 30M. . .
Posted by smclion102
Xperia Play with HDMI out spotted
SOURCE
Posted by Ricky D
Does that plaque say "PLAY 2" ??
Posted by goldenface
Mmm. Possibly. 'Or Play It' (I'm hoping it's Play II).
Posted by aamwng
This could really be the play2. Look carfully at where the "usb" connects to on the phone. The play1's usb port is not that far left.
I don't know, that could just be me.
Posted by aamwng
[ This Message was edited by: aamwng on 2011-06-02 19:36 ]
Posted by petrescucostin
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_[....]ushi_leaks_again-news-2730.php
no camera button as fas as i can see
Posted by smclion102
Maybe just an updated Version nothing else just adding some more features to increase sales???
If its Play -2
lets hope it has Bravia engine
8mp Exmor R camera
Posted by smclion102
Sony Ericsson ST18i Urushi leaks again,
The Urushi’s display is a 3.2-inch display with the whopping resolution of 854x480 pixels and the proprietary Bravia Mobile engine. The phone runs Android 2.3.3 Gingerbread with the typical Sony Ericsson customizations and has the same camera as the Xperia Arc - an 8 megapixel snapper with 720p recording and a LED flash.
The handset is supposed to launch in September. We guess the official announcement should happen soon.
Source
gsmarena
[ This Message was edited by: smclion102 on 2011-06-02 20:09 ]
Posted by goldenface
The phone that is being used by the standing-up guy doesn't look like an XPlay to me.
Posted by aamwng
According to engadget, that is the developer unit...
http://www.engadget.com/2011/[....]-xperia-play-have-hdmi-output/
Posted by amardeep
ST18i looks really nice, great size. But the Neo has the camera lens in the middle, out of the way of fingers, and of course a physical button to operate it. Would have been great if the ST18i followed suit. Certainly having no button is a bit of a drawback - wouldn't that be the first Xperia phone to do without ? Anyway, wonder when it will be out, pricing etc. Neo is just about to get released in the UK, so could be some way off.
Posted by rikken
This might be a good year for SE with the Arc,Neo/pro,xperia mini/pro,play and ST18i
And who knows maybe another high-end device at the end of the year.
Posted by io_bg
On 2011-06-02 21:43:38, amardeep wrote:
Certainly having no button is a bit of a drawback - wouldn't that be the first Xperia phone to do without?
Play also doesn't have a camera shutter button.
Posted by mediar
This phone is really stylish! And it's so slim... It just looks lika a dream, especially in the hands of a beautiful woman...
Posted by aamwng
On 2011-06-02 21:55:49, rikken wrote:
This might be a good year for SE with the Arc,Neo/pro,xperia mini/pro,play and ST18i
And who knows maybe another high-end device at the end of the year.
Xperia DUO!!
Posted by rikken
On 2011-06-02 22:24:50, aamwng wrote:
On 2011-06-02 21:55:49, rikken wrote:
This might be a good year for SE with the Arc,Neo/pro,xperia mini/pro,play and ST18i
And who knows maybe another high-end device at the end of the year.
Xperia DUO!!
I believe that is the Neo Pro
Posted by hihihans
Hehehe picoprojector on
phones.
http://www.picopros.com/artic[....]t-laser-projector-mobile-phone
Posted by FMW300
Why does
always have at least one MAJOR flaw in their phones?
Last year was with all their X10 family handsets having android 1.6, the X8 also, with no autofocus/flash, no front camera in Arc, Yendo operates in slow-motion....
I know they have vastly improved this year, but come on, no camera shutter key in ST18i??? Even the low-end walkman W302 has one!!
Posted by hihihans
Why do you want a key? Ain't touch-focus much better?
Posted by Alihosny
i have been doing the math and judging by the 3.5mm photo(on gsmarena) it may be in the 10-12 mm thickness.
but september is too far and knowing sony ericsson , i bet it will be october. Damn SE i have decided finally to get the mini pro and now you are turning my head again.
[ This Message was edited by: Alihosny on 2011-06-03 01:50 ]
Posted by korbindallis
It looks like the ST18i will not have HDMI out like the Neo and smaller screen so that would not put it in competition with Neo and since its bigger then Xperia mini in terms of screen I think it should be priced around Xperia mini pro or a bit higher
Posted by amardeep
On 2011-06-03 01:57:31, hihihans wrote:
Why do you want a key? Ain't touch-focus much better?
For some uses I guess touch-focus is great. But I have a friend who has an iPhone, and he finds the lack of a hardware shutter key annoying because it's hard to hold the phone really steady whilst using the screen to take the picture. The fact his finger naturally falls on one of the buttons on the edge of the phone, but this button isn't used for taking a picture even in camera mode adds insult to injury ! Not actually having a touchscreen phone I can't comment from experience, but it sounds plausible to me, after all cameras always have a hardware shutter button. It's not the end of the world, as phones take so-so pictures anyway, but it seems an odd omission when lots of SE phones have such a button.
A vaguely related question I have is why don't any of the Android phones have a proper flash ? SE used to have a flash rather than use LCDs on some of their older phones, is there something fundamental about Android that makes this difficult to do ? I can't imagine what. It would be a nice differentiating factor for SE, as no-one else seems to do it either.
[ This Message was edited by: amardeep on 2011-06-03 08:59 ]
Posted by goldenface
On 2011-06-03 01:57:31, hihihans wrote:
Why do you want a key? Ain't touch-focus much better?
I really, REALLY miss the shutter button on the Play. It's much harder to take self portrait pics and touching the screen to take a pic just creates more blur. Two hands is much more stable.
Posted by tranced
Here are some photos taken with the ST18i:
Posted by io_bg
On 2011-06-03 01:57:31, hihihans wrote:
Why do you want a key? Ain't touch-focus much better?
Why do you want a key? Ain't touch-focus much better?
It depends. I rarely find the touch focus better than the normal way of taking pics. With the hardware shutter key you don't always have to take a pic after focusing. But without such a key you'll always have to take it even if you saw that the phone hasn't focused properly. And, as it was said earlier, taking pictures with a shutter key gives you more stability.
Posted by bambarah
is that a secondary VGA camera in front ? or just a light sensor ?
Posted by io_bg
On 2011-06-03 15:03:08, bambarah wrote:
is that a secondary VGA camera in front ? or just a light sensor ?
is that a secondary VGA camera in front ? or just a light sensor ?
It has to be a secondary camera. I've never seen such a big light sensor
Posted by io_bg
A short
W8 review
http://blog.gsmarena.com/sony[....]oxing-get-your-earplugs-ready/
Posted by DarkKrypt
with xenon/plasma flash please [ This Message was edited by: DarkKrypt on 2011-06-04 04:27 ]
Posted by Karun
Gsmarena says its pretty decent, so good enough for me. Although the lack of a decent Walkman player and older android version hurts its chances.
I contacted SE and they said " We wont update W8 atm. We are looking to provide the best Android experience with 2.1"
Posted by heara
On 2011-06-04 05:27:08, DarkKrypt wrote:
with xenon/plasma flash please
[ This Message was edited by: DarkKrypt on 2011-06-04 04:27 ]
idem when???
Posted by io_bg
On 2011-06-04 17:26:14, heara wrote:idem when???
He hasn't mentioned anything if there is going to be one... He just said he wanted such device.
Posted by sunrise_
Yes, we know it's cancelled:
Source: http://obrazki.elektroda.pl/4662581100_1307131686.jpg
Posted by huiyi
On 2011-06-04 19:15:43, sunrise_ wrote:
Yes, we know it's cancelled:
Source: http://obrazki.elektroda.pl/4662581100_1307131686.jpg
Very nice ah. . Why do you want to cancel? ? ? Know the specifications of data? ?
Posted by sunrise_
On 2011-06-05 01:43:02, huiyi wrote:
Very nice ah. . Why do you want to cancel? ? ? Know the specifications of data? ?
It's SE WP7 prototype, the same as here:
http://www.gsmarena.com/spy_s[....]hone_7_prototype-news-2392.php
rog said it was cancelled. No info about specs.
Posted by domipost
On 2011-06-03 01:52:37, FMW300i wrote:
Why does
always have at least one MAJOR flaw in their phones?
Last year was with all their X10 family handsets having android 1.6, the X8 also, with no autofocus/flash, no front camera in Arc, Yendo operates in slow-motion....
I know they have vastly improved this year, but come on, no camera shutter key in ST18i??? Even the low-end walkman W302 has one!!
Dude, 80% of all smartphones don't have camerabuttons. When you think like that, every phone has more than one MAJOR flaw....
Posted by razec
^^
How i wish Esato had a "like" button
Posted by Hardened
On 2011-06-06 01:29:46, domipost wrote:
On 2011-06-03 01:52:37, FMW300i wrote:
Why does
always have at least one MAJOR flaw in their phones?
Last year was with all their X10 family handsets having android 1.6, the X8 also, with no autofocus/flash, no front camera in Arc, Yendo operates in slow-motion....
I know they have vastly improved this year, but come on, no camera shutter key in ST18i??? Even the low-end walkman W302 has one!!
Dude, 80% of all smartphones don't have camerabuttons. When you think like that, every phone has more than one MAJOR flaw....
A simple yet VERY astute observation … something i haven't been concious about until you mentioned it. Makes me wonder why that is?! Why does a touch-screen or multi-touchscreen smartphone have to NOT have a dedicated camera button?!
Most smartphone platforms remember which home screen you've left off before launching an application. I only have 3 on my IP4 yet I know of MANY users on both iOS & Android having 6+ and swiping then tapping on camera takes LONGER to launch the camera app than a simple dedicated button. Weird.
Posted by Xajel
On 2011-06-06 01:29:46, domipost wrote:
Dude, 80% of all smartphones don't have camerabuttons. When you think like that, every phone has more than one MAJOR flaw....
is one of the first to adopt the dedicated camera button, and this put in a good advantage in the market it was a unique for to have most of it's phones from mid to high end have camera button.. even for non-cybershot phones and for non-camera oriented phones...
I'm very disappointed now that
doesn't try to keep up with this... in Play I think they were forced duo to the Play other buttons design ( even thought I think they can manage a dual function button ).. but for a device like this... I wonder which excuse is giving.. reducing cost ??
Posted by se_dude
Any news about a dual core device from SE? With the same hardware in all of their latest phones, the Arc isnt a flagship anymore. Its just a large screened version of the Neo, Azura,Mini etc. Any idea?
Posted by Legen
E3 today!!!!
Posted by razec
^^ Off topic but should we expect the NGP as well?
Posted by Legen
On 2011-06-06 09:19:21, razec wrote:
^^ Off topic but should we expect the NGP as well?
Lol. Sorry, couldn't help it. Maybe there will be remote play stuff. Thats kinda phone related
Posted by 5tephane
On 2011-06-06 09:19:21, razec wrote:
^^ Off topic but should we expect the NGP as well?
It should be there. With a real name.