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Posted by zub

On 2010-12-09 17:12:59, Lollylost100 wrote:
7PM GMT is 8PM in France (GMT +1).


woops yes thats right, wrong way round.


Posted by tranced
@dancingfate @smclion102: why don't you post that in the General forum?

Posted by smclion102

On 2010-12-09 18:38:04, tranced wrote:
@dancingfate @smclion102: why don't you post that in the General forum?



no proper info rite so its still comes under rumors

Posted by MrCash
Ok , its about 8 pm in France , anything ?

Posted by smclion102
9th thrusday its 8pm and the night is about to end in france so this mean that was a fake invitation some AH playing wit our feelings

Posted by MrCash
Maybe 9th Dec 2011 ?

Posted by smclion102

On 2010-12-09 20:24:26, MrCash wrote:
Maybe 9th Dec 2011 ?

oh comon dont hurt my feeling... i hav been waiting since NOV

Posted by zub
lol if it is at 8pm france, it has only been 30 minutes. lets give it some time folks.


although it could all be a load of bull.... here's hoping not.

Posted by smclion102
LOST MY HOPE......... FAKE INVITE

Posted by jj03
**sniff sniff**

Posted by juris15
well something happened

Exclusive: PlayStation Phone 'Zeus Z1' prototype benchmarked on video
http://www.engadget.com/2010/[....]s-z1-prototype-benchmarked-on/
[ This Message was edited by: juris15 on 2010-12-09 19:55 ]


Posted by smclion102

On 2010-12-09 20:52:17, juris15 wrote:
well something happened

Exclusive: PlayStation Phone 'Zeus Z1' prototype benchmarked on video
http://www.engadget.com/2010/[....]s-z1-prototype-benchmarked-on/
[ This Message was edited by: juris15 on 2010-12-09 19:55 ]




the device managed JUST 24.4 frames per second on average

wht do u guys[SE insider/Pros] think??? the other day we saw ANZU scoring 64fps[i guess]
and its too bad as the device was runnin on 2.3 n its gettin 24 fps hope doesn't screw this up.
[ This Message was edited by: smclion102 on 2010-12-09 20:04 ]


Posted by zub
See guys sometimes patience pays off, although 24fps is very poor lol
[ This Message was edited by: zub on 2010-12-09 20:05 ]


Posted by MrCash
Haha , ANZU got bigger in my eyes with it sweat 64 frames

But really , 24.4 ? How this should be a psp phone ?

Posted by Lollylost100
Where does it say the device was runnign Gingerbread?

Posted by zub
lets not forget that neocore is not the definative way to measure graphic performance. certain processors and hardware/software setups will favor neocore more than other setups. for example tegra 2 processors also score poorly on neocore but they still handle any gaming content well.

Posted by MrCash
Do u think the [ 64 fps ] Anzu was running 2.1 or 2.3 ??

Posted by Lollylost100
I don't know, but it was most likely benchmarked without sound.

Posted by tranced
I can't believe sound could make that difference(~100%)

Posted by smclion102

On 2010-12-09 22:07:42, Lollylost100 wrote:
I don't know, but it was most likely benchmarked without sound.


How Much Diff will It make??
hw Many FPS + without? AND
Hw many FPS - with Sound?
[ This Message was edited by: smclion102 on 2010-12-09 21:27 ]


Posted by Lollylost100

On 2010-12-09 22:22:45, tranced wrote:
I can't believe sound could make that difference(~100%)

Android version could .

On average sound makes 4fps difference on HTC Hero (30+ fps without sound).

Posted by synn
...or resolution. If the Zeus has a screen with a resolution more than WVGA, scores would obviously be lower.

Posted by Legen
so...chances are nothing is getting released this holiday? don't they get this is the time of the year people are more likely to buy stuff?!

Posted by Supa_Fly
Why are you guys excited about the PSP Phone? Hardware sliding solution so thick?
1. I hate to admit it but: sales of PSP games have dropped; mostly due to iPod Touch/IP4/IP3GS sales and app sales.
2. games are becoming lack luster and limited in features due to hardware restrictions.

This device, honestly in current leaked hardware design, should've been released in 2007 not 2011.

Posted by jj03
Agree with prom...

Posted by badassmam
The biggest problem is that the PSP2 will come in 2011 as well, shops like Carphonewarehouse will be offering PSP2 with their mobiles on contract so you can imagine whats going to happen to this device. A lot of people believe that Sony had a big part to play in developing this device but thats not the case. The PSP2 will show you the massive difference between Sony and


Posted by zub

On 2010-12-10 03:05:51, Prom1 wrote:
Why are you guys excited about the PSP Phone? Hardware sliding solution so thick?
1. I hate to admit it but: sales of PSP games have dropped; mostly due to iPod Touch/IP4/IP3GS sales and app sales.
2. games are becoming lack luster and limited in features due to hardware restrictions.

This device, honestly in current leaked hardware design, should've been released in 2007 not 2011.



what are you talking about?

http://www.engadget.com/2010/[....]-review-infinity-blade-iphone/

if anything games are becoming more advanced and technical, mobile gaming will be huge in the years to come. A mobile phone device with dedicated physical gaming controls is a godsend to mobile gamers, but yes i agree the PSPhone has to handle games pretty darn well to actually have a chance but...

let see what happen.



Posted by Indiandawg
PSP was the king of handheld gaming console.
Long time back when n-gage came out, everybody expected PSP phone to come out too. But after years it's coming out so there is much excitement. Personally I don't think PSP owns the best handheld gaming console title anymore. As everybody knows even phones these days have amazing 3D games out there, be it android or iOS.

PSP phone may have 100 negative points but it's the most awaiting phone that everybody has been waiting from past many years.

Posted by NoTnERb

On 2010-12-09 22:55:03, Lollylost100 wrote:

On 2010-12-09 22:22:45, tranced wrote:
I can't believe sound could make that difference(~100%)

Android version could .

On average sound makes 4fps difference on HTC Hero (30+ fps without sound).


when I run without sound I get 27.4
with sound 27.1

it doesn't really make any difference on my device. Im betting the others would be the same?

Posted by smclion102
CAN X10 Users Do this FPS TEST in there Handset And let US know their Results
With Audio And Witout.it will be much clear to other users

Posted by Ricky D

On 2010-12-10 11:32:21, smclion102 wrote:
CAN X10 Users Do this FPS TEST in there Handset And let US know their Results
With Audio And Witout.it will be much clear to other users



On my X10, 2.1 (rooted if it makes a difference), Neocore 1.9.22:
27.4fps with audio
28.0fps without audio

I ran it twice in both, the first result without audio gave me 26fps I assume it's because I was getting an email in the middle of it and it screwed it up. With audio was the same both times.

Posted by smclion102
ohhh there is not much of a difference without audio..

ANZU had 63fps pretty good .

But i dont understand this even ANZU was prototype and PSPhone too But ANZU FPS was maxed out..

And both have MSM7230 suggested by the rumors how come there is so much difference??

ANZU was running 2.1 where as PSPhone 2.3p [recent leaks suggest that]
And PSPhone is for gaming doesnt tht phone should have a better graphic??


Posted by synn

On 2010-12-10 12:59:09, smclion102 wrote:
ohhh there is not much of a difference without audio..

ANZU had 63fps pretty good .

But i dont understand this even ANZU was prototype and PSPhone too But ANZU FPS was maxed out..

And both have MSM7230 suggested by the rumors how come there is so much difference??

ANZU was running 2.1 where as PSPhone 2.3p [recent leaks suggest that]
And PSPhone is for gaming doesnt tht phone should have a better graphic??



LRN2RD

..or resolution. If the Zeus has a screen with a resolution more than WVGA, scores would obviously be lower.


...and stop living and breathing numbers.

Posted by MrCash
What should I do with the high resolution if the graphic performance is horrible like that ??

To me , Anzu is a psp phone more than the psp phone itself ..

But really , MSM7230 can't reach 63 FPS .. Maybe dual core ?

Posted by zub
until we see the PSPhone playing an actual game made for the phone and seeing how that runs, i think its premature to criticise its graphic performance.

Posted by Xajel

On 2010-12-10 21:43:35, MrCash wrote:
What should I do with the high resolution if the graphic performance is horrible like that ??

To me , Anzu is a psp phone more than the psp phone itself ..

But really , MSM7230 can't reach 63 FPS .. Maybe dual core ?


MrCash, لا تستعجل

Both Anzu and Zeus are prototypes now, you just can't judge both devices in at this point.. so software is not final and maybe the hardware too is not finalized too...

don't think that will make a psp phone that does not have a thing other than controls and a specific software for managing games... being unique in performance too is a must have for any gaming oriented device...

Posted by doministry
makes a mistake not releasing WP7 device.

Posted by Lollylost100
It's a good thing they aren't releasing a WP7 device. It means more developers are engaged in Android.

Posted by Legen
www.engadget.com/lg-star/preview/

engadget jus previewed a dual-core phone. taste of things to come?

Posted by goldenface
I don't think SE did make a mistake. I think they did the right thing by waiting to see how WP7 devices were to be received at launch - and to say WP7 had a lukewarm reception is a bit of an understatement.

They are still in a precarious position financially so they should be prudent when it comes to launching new phones, especially WP7 which is a big gamble, even for Microsoft.

The PS Phone should keep them on the radar right up until Mobile World Congress (without it SE hasn't much else to should about right now) and I'm looking forward to seeing what they have to offer although I'm not expecting too much high-end stuff apart from Anzu.

Posted by smclion102
SO this Confirms thats there wont be any announcement this YEAR???
So all the Phone's will be announced in FEB @ MWC???

Posted by nikos_se
lg star with a dual-core processor and running on android 2.2 scored 67fps at neocore....and we have already seen anzu scoring 63fps...so i wonder how good is the processor on anzu/??maybe its not dual-core,but it looks really powerfull!!

Posted by io_bg
On 2010-12-11 20:06:13, nikos_se wrote:
so i wonder how good is the processor on anzu/??maybe its not dual-core,but it looks really powerfull!!

Anzu's CPU is the same as Desire Z's one.

Posted by MrCash
haha Xajel ..

Ya, I always keep in mind that we r talking about prototypes ..

But we're here to discuss what we got .. and whats that ?? Lets see ..

2 devices with the same processors and almost the same hardware ..

The 1 that should be the best gaming phone we have ever saw did only 24 fps , while the other 1 did 64 !

That doesn't make any sense , right ?

Also keep in mind that last time we saw both devices , Anzu was running 2.1 , and Psphone was running 2.3 , which is suppose to cause big difference ..

Well , I dont really care about the Psphone , all I care about is Anzu , so Im not here to say that psphone is bad , Im just here to say that anzu is good

Posted by io_bg

On 2010-12-11 20:16:21, MrCash wrote:
2 devices with the same processors and almost the same hardware ..

The 1 that should be the best gaming phone we have ever saw did only 24 fps , while the other 1 did 64 !

That doesn't make any sense , right ?

It does, actually. As it was said earlier, the Zeus might have bigger resolution than the Anzu (WVGA).
[ This Message was edited by: io_bg on 2010-12-11 19:31 ]


Posted by rog

On 2010-12-11 19:10:46, smclion102 wrote:
SO this Confirms thats there wont be any announcement this YEAR???
So all the Phone's will be announced in FEB @ MWC???


Yes.
No.

Posted by sunrise_

On 2010-12-11 21:02:28, rog wrote:
Yes.
No.


CES?

Posted by Ylli
i found this on sony ericsson developer world:
The International Consumer Electronics Show (CES) held in Las Vegas, Nevada, is the world’s largest consumer technology tradeshow, and the largest US tradeshow of any kind. CES connects the global market of consumer electronics and fosters industry growth and innovation. Approximately 300 sessions and 900 expert speakers will be discussing hot industry trends and topics designed to help companies expand their businesses and understand new technology.

Sony Ericsson will be showcasing exciting new products and solutions in conjunction with Sony Corporation and ANT Wireless, a world leader in inertial and wireless technologies.

Check back with the Developer World website soon for more details on our scheduled activities and promotions at this amazing event.

http://developer.sonyericsson[....]dar?cc=gb&lc=en&event=1.895609

Posted by xenia
It was a year ago Jan 2010

Posted by hihihans
They copy and paste that text every year saves money


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