Posted by dr.W
If the Pro was a QWERTY version of the Arc, I would be all over it. Even 4 or 4.1" would be great. 3.7" is just too small.
It seems like no one wants to make a phone with a 4"+ screen with QWERTY, except the EPIC 4G, which is only on Sprint so may as well not even exist in the first place. Oh, and the Nokia E7, which is on a dead platform walking.
Posted by Michalis3
On 2011-02-13 20:15:32, zub wrote:
why dont you people get it? there is no way
will charge a mid-range price for these mid-range phones, price will be high-end price i can bet my left testicle on it....
wither you feel paying the extra for being loyal to
is worth it or not is your choice.....
We will wait and see who's right my friend.
Posted by Ricke77
Well... Samsung aint the cheapest phones either. The galaxy 2 will be more expensive than the play. That I can bet my right testicle on!
Posted by motvikt
Recommended price for neo here in sweden is around 400euro, 550 for the arc. So not that expensive
Posted by amardeep
Play, Neo, Arc "Coming in 3 months"
http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/mobilephones?cc=gb&lc=en
Posted by zub
On 2011-02-13 20:20:00, Ricke77 wrote:
Well... Samsung aint the cheapest phones either. The galaxy 2 will be more expensive than the play. That I can bet my right testicle on!
have you compared the specs of galaxy s II to any xperia phone?
it is a true high-end device, which will demand a high-end price tag. just like the motorola atrix will, just like the LG optimus 2X is.
Posted by xell
On 2011-02-13 20:20:00, Ricke77 wrote:
Well... Samsung aint the cheapest phones either. The galaxy 2 will be more expensive than the play. That I can bet my right testicle on!
When the Galaxy S launched in Germany last June, its rrp was 649 €, too. I have to wait for the SII press release to give you the comparison...
Posted by se_dude
@zub Then why dont u just go and salivate, ******bate over the GSII and the other dual core phones announced and give this thread a rest? If you dont have anything constructive to say just get lost!!
Posted by zub
hehe too many fanboys in here, get all touchy nervy over anything negative said about
whats the matter? truth hurts bro....
oh for what its worth i am gonna purchase the xperia play, even though i hate qualcomm/adreno, just for the gamepad. heres hoping that playstation certified kicks off well and more manufacturers will bring out their own certified phones.
only good thing
done is open the flood gates to hardware gaming controls. we can only hope others follow in their suite and bring better devices out.[ This Message was edited by: zub on 2011-02-13 19:34 ]
Posted by back2you
im here
im sorry but All my information is correct
Probably will be announced together in the next exhibition
xperia play big surprise at mwc 2011 , games exclusive , multiplayer ... etc
good phones sony ericsson
Posted by ^^HAMID^^
@ back2you
first become sure then start posting...
that's not easy for me to sleep tonight just bcuz of your post
Posted by rog
On 2011-02-13 20:33:52, back2you wrote:
im sorry but All my information is correct
It is not.
Posted by KU
galaxy s2 is really great but not that of a beast just an evolution the Atrix is the best phone anounced so far with it's huge battery and 1Gb ram.
Galaxy tab is shit compared to the LG 3D. I Hope there will be some ground breaking revolution phone till the end of the MWC !!!
Sick of Apple 
[ This Message was edited by: KU on 2011-02-13 19:55 ]
Posted by smclion102
Xperia PLAY,ARC,NEO,PRO All these Devices Have Qualcomm MSM8255 Snapdragon 1 GHz processor
Posted by CELL-P
After looking at Neo's pictures for a while, I can say that the phone has a very nice design compared to what we see nowadays. It is not another ugly black frame (Samsung and LG, I am looking at you
). I like its curves and colouring scheme. I would like to see more colours at launch. Pink, red, white, green, purple...etc would be nice. I think it is a phone that should have a lot of colours.
Sure, I am sad because
didn't announce a high-end phone. But that was expected. Sony Ericsson is always predictable if you put your dreams and expectations aside.
Posted by smclion102
^^^
+1 For More Colours Like X10Mini
Posted by smclion102
On 2011-02-13 20:33:52, back2you wrote:
im here
im sorry but All my information is correct
good phones sony ericsson
False
Posted by motvikt
So when can we expect the minis?
Posted by FMW300
DK300
The multimedia dock for the Xperia Play. For charging and listening to music.
Posted by jack00
actually those phones are okay
if providers are pricing them right(means - just alittle under the new competition) and if they get released in march, then i see some good sales for sony ericsson. the intelligent thing about these four devices, is that they seem to have the same hardware. so sony ericsson is actually reaching into 4 different niches without putting out a lot of money for the development.
but i am still more excited about the minis. the first mini series was a surprisingly good success for sony ericsson, and the second seems to continue the recipe. hp tries to follow with the veer and even apple seems to have realized that they are missing out on something. so thumbs up for the minis and the faster release dates.
Posted by smclion102
Video: Watch the Xperia Play press conference, relive the surprise!
http://www.joystiq.com/2011/02/13/xperia-play-press-conference/
Posted by badassmam
These devices are all good, there is something for everyone. The Xperia Pro is a nice device but I think the Neo is best overall. It has no drawbacks if you think carefully. Play is a niche product and needs strong games. Namco are on board so lets wait and see. Last year the X10 carried
in terms of sale, you can see a more cautious approach this time. Yes the Arc is more expensive but at least the others are healthy and are guaranteed to sell if things get hairy. I see no reason to be disappointed.
With regards to insider info, you guys are all intelligent and you know that every company will be testing the latest tech. Yes there is a dual core
and probably 16MP sensors available but why would they implement that now? LG are being very bold with the 3d device but its unlikely to see LG top of the sales chart. Dual core is a natural progression so it is being made and will come for sure. 16MP camera and pico projectors will not have people camping outside shops like iPhone launch days. They could make it but it would do nothing for them.
Its so easy to slip back into financial loss, you can't just pull out hyper spec devices because they could really hurt
by the end of the year. A dual core Arc would be better than most devices but its not necessary. Trust me on one thing if anything, will improve on their sales and profit this year because of these more 'conservative' devices.
Think of the iPhone as a benchmark since its a cash cow. Most iPhone reiterations are similar, only certain aspects are improved but nothing revolutionary or ground breaking. Now, they may have to do a bit more because the OS is really looking dated and Android is strong. iPhone 5 won't have 16MP camera, dual core, 3d etc. It may have one of those things but not all.
Todays announcement shows that
do have good hardware and nice ideas however, they don't want to mix with those super high ends because they don't need to yet. Devices like Neo have to be spot on for success, even will confess to you that the Play and Arc are not as important.
Posted by adsada
i agree with you expect for the last point - i believe it is the xperia play that will provide them with high end of year results. they clearly want to hit the us market and have chosen the play to do so (super bowl ad). this is the one device in their portfolio that stands out from the crowd in terms of android smartphones, and could easily be a big hit if marketed right with good games.
Posted by koss
The Arc 8 MP camera with Exmor is shit... horrible picture quality, and wtf.. all models.. NEO, PRO, ARC have the same image sensor.. with same bad quality photos?!. If you compare
Aino and Arc pictures.. Aino will be 10class over Arc, Neo, Pro in term of camera picture quality. The question is how true is the afirmation: "Ready for some hard facts? Try 8.1 megapixels. Or maximum aperture of f/2.4 (in short, this means that more light reaches the image sensor). Your Xperia™ arc has the camera muscles you need to get great shots" . In my opinion low light shots are awfull even daylight shots are extremely bad pictures full of noise and artefacts all over the picture.. so what's the point with Exmor R back illuminated senzor.. bla bla if pictures even in daylight conditions looks horrible?? much horryble than AIno or C905..
Even the Lg optimus 2x have much better camera and take much better pictures than XPeria Arc and family(Neo, Pro, Play) so where is that spark who was present in each
product?! Much probably that spark had died long time ago.
Shame
. I'm a fan but srsly.. true fans see this new xperia family an obsolete family with new clothes only.
Bravia engine... wtf..(we people aren't so stupid) where is OLED screen?? where is Gorrila Glass?, Bluetooth 3, Where is 8MP camera that takes decent pictures not that shitty pictures ARC takes.. Where is a single Droid with xenon not with that painful twinkle led flash..
I am extremly extremly dissapointed..
2008 fail for
2009 fail for
2010 dai for
2011... propably fail for
Posted by Shino03
Will there be games specifically developed for the Play and not just that playstation suite which frankly speaking is just an emulator. It's very dissapointing to play/see the games not occupying the whole screen..
Also, were there ever a time when SE had two events in MWC?
[ This Message was edited by: Shino03 on 2011-02-13 23:26 ]
Posted by koss
People.. you want to play games.. go buy playstation 3 and will save the money... becouse
xperia play will be more expensive that PS3.. or you can buy the next NGP for sony.. not an xperia play with Adreno 205 GPU... and.. awufll portated games.. Maybe I'm wrong and for future I wish to be wrong..
Posted by oliver972
hello all,
Can you expect news for mini successor on the rest on mwc ???
regards all
Posted by echo.shane
well dont know about you other
fans of all the phones i had the t230 was the worst i have had t68i k310 k750 w810 and p1i. im more than positive that my next phone will be xperia pro...i dont like the design. im not a fan of curves but who cares atm i found an upgrade to my very old genuine p1i...
Posted by zub
On 2011-02-14 00:18:16, koss wrote:
The Arc 8 MP camera with Exmor is shit... horrible picture quality, and wtf.. all models.. NEO, PRO, ARC have the same image sensor.. with same bad quality photos?!. If you compare
Aino and Arc pictures.. Aino will be 10class over Arc, Neo, Pro in term of camera picture quality. The question is how true is the afirmation: "Ready for some hard facts? Try 8.1 megapixels. Or maximum aperture of f/2.4 (in short, this means that more light reaches the image sensor). Your Xperia™ arc has the camera muscles you need to get great shots" . In my opinion low light shots are awfull even daylight shots are extremely bad pictures full of noise and artefacts all over the picture.. so what's the point with Exmor R back illuminated senzor.. bla bla if pictures even in daylight conditions looks horrible?? much horryble than AIno or C905..
Even the Lg optimus 2x have much better camera and take much better pictures than XPeria Arc and family(Neo, Pro, Play) so where is that spark who was present in each
product?! Much probably that spark had died long time ago.
Shame
. I'm a fan but srsly.. true fans see this new xperia family an obsolete family with new clothes only.
Bravia engine... wtf..(we people aren't so stupid) where is OLED screen?? where is Gorrila Glass?, Bluetooth 3, Where is 8MP camera that takes decent pictures not that shitty pictures ARC takes.. Where is a single Droid with xenon not with that painful twinkle led flash..
I am extremly extremly dissapointed..
2008 fail for
2009 fail for
2010 dai for
2011... propably fail for
On 2011-02-14 00:29:18, koss wrote:
People.. you want to play games.. go buy playstation 3 and will save the money... becouse
xperia play will be more expensive that PS3.. or you can buy the next NGP for sony.. not an xperia play with Adreno 205 GPU... and.. awufll portated games.. Maybe I'm wrong and for future I wish to be wrong..
finally. its good to see that at least one
fan has the balls to speak the truth and realise it.
Posted by >500
@zub
so you, and some others, may think SE is behind the game. So what? Do we need you to post about it 2341 times? No, didnt think so. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But theres no need to post it more than once really.
All this is subjective of course. What's good for one may be cra* for another. If thats the case, then so be it.
I think everyone knows SE is a little behind the ball at the moment. Personally, I dont really care. Dual core doesnt give me any advantages. I dont need 1080 video, or better gaming. And the stuff about improved battery life, hrrmmm, thats been said plenty of times before, and imho I dont think it will improve much, if any at all. For that to happen we need some fresh new tech in batteries!
edit: The platform for dual cores is still not mature (obviously) In terms of software, apps etc.
[ This Message was edited by: >500 on 2011-02-14 03:36 ]
Posted by MyP910
good show by SE. Xperia Arc and Play will be huge hit..
Arc for the design, and best camera module we've ever seen in Android based smartphone. The low light picture is very nice which is very useful for phone based camera (thanks to the exmor R sensor).
Play, will be good for games and will distinguished themselves from other Android-based smartphones.
in general, SE has managed be different. It ain't the same Android as others.
[ This Message was edited by: MyP910 on 2011-02-14 03:51 ]
Posted by MyP910
- sorry repeated post -
[ This Message was edited by: MyP910 on 2011-02-14 03:22 ]
Posted by huiyi
On 2011-02-14 00:29:18, koss wrote:
People.. you want to play games.. go buy playstation 3 and will save the money... becouse
xperia play will be more expensive that PS3.. or you can buy the next NGP for sony.. not an xperia play with Adreno 205 GPU... and.. awufll portated games.. Maybe I'm wrong and for future I wish to be wrong..
Xperia™ PLAY has a dual channel ddr2 memory working at 300 Hertz.
Posted by MyP910
I think, the most important thing faced by android smartphone manufacturers is how to be different and in a good way. Something that average joe will understand and can clearly see.
In this regards, Xperia Play has done that. It is an android based smartphone but the different is , it can play high quality games and it has dedicated game controller.
Posted by avmaxfan
On 2011-02-14 04:24:30, huiyi wrote:
On 2011-02-14 00:29:18, koss wrote:
People.. you want to play games.. go buy playstation 3 and will save the money... becouse
xperia play will be more expensive that PS3.. or you can buy the next NGP for sony.. not an xperia play with Adreno 205 GPU... and.. awufll portated games.. Maybe I'm wrong and for future I wish to be wrong..
Xperia™ PLAY has a dual channel ddr2 memory working at 300 Hertz.
He was talking about the GPU not memory.
@KOSS
I dunno where you got that from but the 8 MP EXMOR R module takes great pictures, and its easily one of the best 8 megapixel cameras out there and better than the Optimus 2X camera you mentioned.
@Topic
Am I the only one who thinks X10 looks better than Arc and the others ?
Image source sefirst.com
[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2011-02-14 07:21 ]
Posted by mediar
^^ Yes, I think so. X10 is the best looking phone ever made.
Posted by KU
Arc and Vivaz are prettier
neo is as beautiful as the the X10 and the pro is below par.
Xperia Arc is way better than any X10 camera details are way better than even the Satio's sensor.
The xperia Play will have optimised games created for it by MANY big developpers, so stop whinig or go get a PSP 2 and don't make phone calls,
can't get oled because it is to expensive for them that's a real fact but it is obvious as we all know how SE failed in the last 3years and even Iphone uses backlight led lcd screens ! Peace
Edit: March is in 15 days.
[ This Message was edited by: KU on 2011-02-14 07:48 ]
Posted by avmaxfan
On 2011-02-14 08:45:44, KU wrote:
Arc and Vivaz are prettier
neo is as beautiful as the the X10 and the pro is below par.
Xperia Arc is way better than any X10 camera details are way better than even the Satio's sensor.
The xperia Play will have optimised games created for it by MANY big developpers, so stop whinig or go get a PSP 2 and don't make phone calls,
can't get oled because it is to expensive for them that's a real fact but it is obvious as we all know how SE failed in the last 3years and even Iphone uses backlight led lcd screens ! Peace
Edit: March is in 15 days.
[ This Message was edited by: KU on 2011-02-14 07:48 ]
I don't think the Arc/Neo will be available March 1st, more like March end.
Posted by Indiandawg
I like Arc but it does not have front facing leaving me to like Neo!
I gotta wait for another phone from SE
Posted by avmaxfan
Is a front facing cam really that important
. I rarely see anybody using video calling, and I personally never use it.
Posted by MyP910
I also think that xperia Arc is beautiful than X10 and all other phones announced so far.
Actually, I'm kind of happy there is no new announcement from SE because I like Arc very much. So its not hard to choose.
[ This Message was edited by: MyP910 on 2011-02-14 10:12 ]
Posted by Indiandawg
On 2011-02-14 10:02:54, avmaxfan wrote:
Is a front facing cam really that important
. I rarely see anybody using video calling, and I personally never use it.
Fring/Tango + Wifi.
But now ill wait for SE to come out with dual core and nfc. Yes I want powerful smartphone, not even a single minute lag! Been using phones over 10th years, can't stand even minor lags anymore and yes, powerful battery life. I know am demanding too much but am ready to wait, in the end it will be worth it and ill get I want
Posted by synn
On 2011-02-14 11:30:27, Indiandawg wrote:
Yes I want powerful smartphone, not even a single minute lag! Been using phones over 10th years, can't stand even minor lags anymore
Well, look somewhere other than Android.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?[....]vuG_BQ&feature=player_embedded
That's the latest and greatest hardware for the platform. Still jittery shit that most definitely is gonna get slower with time. Android is not what you need if you want everything to be fluid all the time.
Posted by io_bg
On 2011-02-14 08:45:44, KU wrote:
Arc and Vivaz are prettier neo is as beautiful as the the X10 and the pro is below par.
Arc and Vivaz are prettier
neo is as beautiful as the the X10 and the pro is below par. Indeed! X10 is a great-looking device as long as it isn't put next to Arc
On 2011-02-14 00:18:16, koss wrote:
The Arc 8 MP camera with Exmor is shit... horrible picture quality, and wtf.. all models.. NEO, PRO, ARC have the same image sensor.. with same bad quality photos?!. If you compare
Aino and Arc pictures.. Aino will be 10class over Arc, Neo, Pro in term of camera picture quality.The pictures are pretty good in fact. The biggest problem is that there's too much oversharpening which could be easily solved by tweaking the camera driver.
Posted by Indiandawg
On 2011-02-14 11:54:47, synn wrote:
On 2011-02-14 11:30:27, Indiandawg wrote:
Yes I want powerful smartphone, not even a single minute lag! Been using phones over 10th years, can't stand even minor lags anymore
Well, look somewhere other than Android.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?[....]vuG_BQ&feature=player_embedded
That's the latest and greatest hardware for the platform. Still jittery shit that most definitely is gonna get slower with time. Android is not what you need if you want everything to be fluid all the time.
I always thought android and iphone are fluid and snappy.
I will wait for SE. Dont like Samsung/Motorola design. Though Attic 4G is a powerful smartphone.
Posted by KU
On 2011-02-14 11:54:47, synn wrote:
On 2011-02-14 11:30:27, Indiandawg wrote:
Yes I want powerful smartphone, not even a single minute lag! Been using phones over 10th years, can't stand even minor lags anymore
Well, look somewhere other than Android.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?[....]vuG_BQ&feature=player_embedded
That's the latest and greatest hardware for the platform. Still jittery shit that most definitely is gonna get slower with time. Android is not what you need if you want everything to be fluid all the time.
Fast and beautiful at last, Samsung now deserve to be number one the galaxy S II is really one of the best Phone ever cool. Still I prefere the xperia pro.
Posted by winnerzero
personally, i'm loving the look of the arc...really can't compare it to anything else out there right now or in the near future as I think it looks that good...not a fan of samsung phones let alone the fact all they do is copy the look of the iphone and put that crappy touchwiz interface on the galaxy, which in all honesty i don't know what it is that people buy that phone for...gotta give them credit for good marketing tho...but after using i900, never samsung again. crappy build and didn't last long.
for all the complainers out there about how
are behind and not up to date, i seriously don't think other phones are that much better in anyway...the arc looks smooth as, the reviews say as much...gingerbread is great, have got the latest version plus have promised to upgrade quickly...i have the x10 and it has been nothing but great as long as you don't expect too much from a company that told everyone exactly what to expect with the x10 anyway... plus looking at other forums, ppl have been complaining about crap LG build quality and crappy GPS and lag on samsungs, so each to their own i guess.
I think
have done well to differentiate themselves from the rest of the crowd and hope they can make a ton of money with this range so they can keep bringing us new stuff. Used to own an htc and as good as they are, i just wanted something different because it seems to me that every htc being released seems to be just like any other htc. they are all pretty much the same... if i had the finances i would buy both the play and arc but for me, the arc just seems almost the perfect phone for now...who knows, maybe in a year or two dual core phones can really start to shine and be optimised. for me, i don't understand how smartphones can get any smarter...would rather dual cores in things like tablets which is why the xoom is really appealing for me as well.
sorry for the long post, just my 2 cents. Peace guys, if you don't like
you don't have to be in this forum.[ This Message was edited by: winnerzero on 2011-02-14 12:48 ]
Posted by Dups!
On 2011-02-14 13:44:55, winnerzero wrote:
personally, i'm loving the look of the arc...really can't compare it to anything else out there right now or in the near future as I think it looks that good...not a fan of samsung phones let alone the fact all they do is copy the look of the iphone and put that crappy touchwiz interface on the galaxy, which in all honesty i don't know what it is that people buy that phone for...gotta give them credit for good marketing tho...but after using i900, never samsung again. crappy build and didn't last long.
for all the complainers out there about how
are behind and not up to date, i seriously don't think other phones are that much better in anyway...the arc looks smooth as, the reviews say as much...gingerbread is great, have got the latest version plus have promised to upgrade quickly...i have the x10 and it has been nothing but great as long as you don't expect too much from a company that told everyone exactly what to expect with the x10 anyway... plus looking at other forums, ppl have been complaining about crap LG build quality and crappy GPS and lag on samsungs, so each to their own i guess.
I think
have done well to differentiate themselves from the rest of the crowd and hope they can make a ton of money with this range so they can keep bringing us new stuff. Used to own an htc and as good as they are, i just wanted something different because it seems to me that every htc being released seems to be just like any other htc. they are all pretty much the same... if i had the finances i would buy both the play and arc but for me, the arc just seems almost the perfect phone for now...who knows, maybe in a year or two dual core phones can really start to shine and be optimised. for me, i don't understand how smartphones can get any smarter...would rather dual cores in things like tablets which is why the xoom is really appealing for me as well.
sorry for the long post, just my 2 cents. Peace guys, if you don't like
you don't have to be in this forum.
[ This Message was edited by: winnerzero on 2011-02-14 12:48 ]
Absolutely and beautifully put!! I share everything you wrote in that post!
Now SE, where is my Arc?! It feels like I'm already waiting and eternity for that beauty of a phone.
It has been a long while for me to be excited by an SE phone and the Arc does more than that.
Posted by goldenface
@winnerzero Very well said!
Dups!, you sound like you're really hooked on the Arc,
[ This Message was edited by: goldenface on 2011-02-14 14:59 ]
Posted by rikken
I don`t like the side-mounted 3.5 jack on the Arc. Not pocket friendly
And the placement of the flash may create glare from your fingers, I`ve seen it happen on pictures taken with the iPhone4
I see myself with the Neo in a month or so