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Posted by huiyi

On 2011-02-14 00:29:18, koss wrote:
People.. you want to play games.. go buy playstation 3 and will save the money... becouse xperia play will be more expensive that PS3.. or you can buy the next NGP for sony.. not an xperia play with Adreno 205 GPU... and.. awufll portated games.. Maybe I'm wrong and for future I wish to be wrong..

Xperia™ PLAY has a dual channel ddr2 memory working at 300 Hertz.


Posted by MyP910
I think, the most important thing faced by android smartphone manufacturers is how to be different and in a good way. Something that average joe will understand and can clearly see.

In this regards, Xperia Play has done that. It is an android based smartphone but the different is , it can play high quality games and it has dedicated game controller.

Posted by avmaxfan

On 2011-02-14 04:24:30, huiyi wrote:

On 2011-02-14 00:29:18, koss wrote:
People.. you want to play games.. go buy playstation 3 and will save the money... becouse xperia play will be more expensive that PS3.. or you can buy the next NGP for sony.. not an xperia play with Adreno 205 GPU... and.. awufll portated games.. Maybe I'm wrong and for future I wish to be wrong..

Xperia™ PLAY has a dual channel ddr2 memory working at 300 Hertz.


He was talking about the GPU not memory.

@KOSS

I dunno where you got that from but the 8 MP EXMOR R module takes great pictures, and its easily one of the best 8 megapixel cameras out there and better than the Optimus 2X camera you mentioned.



@Topic



Am I the only one who thinks X10 looks better than Arc and the others ?

Image source sefirst.com
[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2011-02-14 07:21 ]


Posted by mediar
^^ Yes, I think so. X10 is the best looking phone ever made.

Posted by KU
Arc and Vivaz are prettier neo is as beautiful as the the X10 and the pro is below par.
Xperia Arc is way better than any X10 camera details are way better than even the Satio's sensor.
The xperia Play will have optimised games created for it by MANY big developpers, so stop whinig or go get a PSP 2 and don't make phone calls, can't get oled because it is to expensive for them that's a real fact but it is obvious as we all know how SE failed in the last 3years and even Iphone uses backlight led lcd screens ! Peace

Edit: March is in 15 days.
[ This Message was edited by: KU on 2011-02-14 07:48 ]


Posted by avmaxfan

On 2011-02-14 08:45:44, KU wrote:
Arc and Vivaz are prettier neo is as beautiful as the the X10 and the pro is below par.
Xperia Arc is way better than any X10 camera details are way better than even the Satio's sensor.
The xperia Play will have optimised games created for it by MANY big developpers, so stop whinig or go get a PSP 2 and don't make phone calls, can't get oled because it is to expensive for them that's a real fact but it is obvious as we all know how SE failed in the last 3years and even Iphone uses backlight led lcd screens ! Peace

Edit: March is in 15 days.
[ This Message was edited by: KU on 2011-02-14 07:48 ]



I don't think the Arc/Neo will be available March 1st, more like March end.

Posted by Indiandawg
I like Arc but it does not have front facing leaving me to like Neo!

I gotta wait for another phone from SE

Posted by avmaxfan
Is a front facing cam really that important . I rarely see anybody using video calling, and I personally never use it.

Posted by MyP910
I also think that xperia Arc is beautiful than X10 and all other phones announced so far.

Actually, I'm kind of happy there is no new announcement from SE because I like Arc very much. So its not hard to choose.
[ This Message was edited by: MyP910 on 2011-02-14 10:12 ]


Posted by Indiandawg

On 2011-02-14 10:02:54, avmaxfan wrote:
Is a front facing cam really that important . I rarely see anybody using video calling, and I personally never use it.

Fring/Tango + Wifi.

But now ill wait for SE to come out with dual core and nfc. Yes I want powerful smartphone, not even a single minute lag! Been using phones over 10th years, can't stand even minor lags anymore and yes, powerful battery life. I know am demanding too much but am ready to wait, in the end it will be worth it and ill get I want

Posted by synn

On 2011-02-14 11:30:27, Indiandawg wrote:
Yes I want powerful smartphone, not even a single minute lag! Been using phones over 10th years, can't stand even minor lags anymore


Well, look somewhere other than Android.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?[....]vuG_BQ&feature=player_embedded

That's the latest and greatest hardware for the platform. Still jittery shit that most definitely is gonna get slower with time. Android is not what you need if you want everything to be fluid all the time.

Posted by io_bg
On 2011-02-14 08:45:44, KU wrote:
Arc and Vivaz are prettier neo is as beautiful as the the X10 and the pro is below par.

Indeed! X10 is a great-looking device as long as it isn't put next to Arc

On 2011-02-14 00:18:16, koss wrote:
The Arc 8 MP camera with Exmor is shit... horrible picture quality, and wtf.. all models.. NEO, PRO, ARC have the same image sensor.. with same bad quality photos?!. If you compare Aino and Arc pictures.. Aino will be 10class over Arc, Neo, Pro in term of camera picture quality.

The pictures are pretty good in fact. The biggest problem is that there's too much oversharpening which could be easily solved by tweaking the camera driver.

Posted by Indiandawg

On 2011-02-14 11:54:47, synn wrote:

On 2011-02-14 11:30:27, Indiandawg wrote:
Yes I want powerful smartphone, not even a single minute lag! Been using phones over 10th years, can't stand even minor lags anymore


Well, look somewhere other than Android.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?[....]vuG_BQ&feature=player_embedded

That's the latest and greatest hardware for the platform. Still jittery shit that most definitely is gonna get slower with time. Android is not what you need if you want everything to be fluid all the time.


I always thought android and iphone are fluid and snappy.
I will wait for SE. Dont like Samsung/Motorola design. Though Attic 4G is a powerful smartphone.

Posted by KU

On 2011-02-14 11:54:47, synn wrote:

On 2011-02-14 11:30:27, Indiandawg wrote:
Yes I want powerful smartphone, not even a single minute lag! Been using phones over 10th years, can't stand even minor lags anymore


Well, look somewhere other than Android.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?[....]vuG_BQ&feature=player_embedded

That's the latest and greatest hardware for the platform. Still jittery shit that most definitely is gonna get slower with time. Android is not what you need if you want everything to be fluid all the time.

Fast and beautiful at last, Samsung now deserve to be number one the galaxy S II is really one of the best Phone ever cool. Still I prefere the xperia pro.

Posted by winnerzero
personally, i'm loving the look of the arc...really can't compare it to anything else out there right now or in the near future as I think it looks that good...not a fan of samsung phones let alone the fact all they do is copy the look of the iphone and put that crappy touchwiz interface on the galaxy, which in all honesty i don't know what it is that people buy that phone for...gotta give them credit for good marketing tho...but after using i900, never samsung again. crappy build and didn't last long.

for all the complainers out there about how are behind and not up to date, i seriously don't think other phones are that much better in anyway...the arc looks smooth as, the reviews say as much...gingerbread is great, have got the latest version plus have promised to upgrade quickly...i have the x10 and it has been nothing but great as long as you don't expect too much from a company that told everyone exactly what to expect with the x10 anyway... plus looking at other forums, ppl have been complaining about crap LG build quality and crappy GPS and lag on samsungs, so each to their own i guess.

I think have done well to differentiate themselves from the rest of the crowd and hope they can make a ton of money with this range so they can keep bringing us new stuff. Used to own an htc and as good as they are, i just wanted something different because it seems to me that every htc being released seems to be just like any other htc. they are all pretty much the same... if i had the finances i would buy both the play and arc but for me, the arc just seems almost the perfect phone for now...who knows, maybe in a year or two dual core phones can really start to shine and be optimised. for me, i don't understand how smartphones can get any smarter...would rather dual cores in things like tablets which is why the xoom is really appealing for me as well.

sorry for the long post, just my 2 cents. Peace guys, if you don't like you don't have to be in this forum.
[ This Message was edited by: winnerzero on 2011-02-14 12:48 ]


Posted by Dups!

On 2011-02-14 13:44:55, winnerzero wrote:
personally, i'm loving the look of the arc...really can't compare it to anything else out there right now or in the near future as I think it looks that good...not a fan of samsung phones let alone the fact all they do is copy the look of the iphone and put that crappy touchwiz interface on the galaxy, which in all honesty i don't know what it is that people buy that phone for...gotta give them credit for good marketing tho...but after using i900, never samsung again. crappy build and didn't last long.

for all the complainers out there about how are behind and not up to date, i seriously don't think other phones are that much better in anyway...the arc looks smooth as, the reviews say as much...gingerbread is great, have got the latest version plus have promised to upgrade quickly...i have the x10 and it has been nothing but great as long as you don't expect too much from a company that told everyone exactly what to expect with the x10 anyway... plus looking at other forums, ppl have been complaining about crap LG build quality and crappy GPS and lag on samsungs, so each to their own i guess.

I think have done well to differentiate themselves from the rest of the crowd and hope they can make a ton of money with this range so they can keep bringing us new stuff. Used to own an htc and as good as they are, i just wanted something different because it seems to me that every htc being released seems to be just like any other htc. they are all pretty much the same... if i had the finances i would buy both the play and arc but for me, the arc just seems almost the perfect phone for now...who knows, maybe in a year or two dual core phones can really start to shine and be optimised. for me, i don't understand how smartphones can get any smarter...would rather dual cores in things like tablets which is why the xoom is really appealing for me as well.

sorry for the long post, just my 2 cents. Peace guys, if you don't like you don't have to be in this forum.
[ This Message was edited by: winnerzero on 2011-02-14 12:48 ]



Absolutely and beautifully put!! I share everything you wrote in that post!

Now SE, where is my Arc?! It feels like I'm already waiting and eternity for that beauty of a phone.

It has been a long while for me to be excited by an SE phone and the Arc does more than that.

Posted by goldenface
@winnerzero Very well said!

Dups!, you sound like you're really hooked on the Arc,
[ This Message was edited by: goldenface on 2011-02-14 14:59 ]


Posted by rikken
I don`t like the side-mounted 3.5 jack on the Arc. Not pocket friendly And the placement of the flash may create glare from your fingers, I`ve seen it happen on pictures taken with the iPhone4
I see myself with the Neo in a month or so

Posted by Dups!
@goldenface

Like an addict on cocaine

I'll be honest, I've used a number of SEs and most of the times I had that feeling of wow but lately (since 2006) that feeling died until I first laid my eyes on the Arc. Then after a few previews, whic were very positive, the deal was sealed for me. I'm definitely back with SE after 3 years, not that I left since I'm still using the P1i as my primary phone but I did get a Moto V8 and a Blackberry Bold in between. I feel like the days I got the T610i, K700 and the P910i- those days were special.

I am happy SE have sorted out their problems cause they are my number 1 choice when it comes to mobile phones.

I forsee a good 2011 for SE's bottom line and an even greater 2012.

Happy to be back home

Posted by smclion102
@winnerzero

Well Said

Posted by smclion102
@Dups!
Welcome back

P1i was ultimate at tht time ... Even i loved my P1i

Posted by Indiandawg

On 2011-02-14 13:44:55, winnerzero wrote:
personally, i'm loving the look of the arc...really can't compare it to anything else out there right now or in the near future as I think it looks that good...not a fan of samsung phones let alone the fact all they do is copy the look of the iphone and put that crappy touchwiz interface on the galaxy, which in all honesty i don't know what it is that people buy that phone for...gotta give them credit for good marketing tho...but after using i900, never samsung again. crappy build and didn't last long.

for all the complainers out there about how are behind and not up to date, i seriously don't think other phones are that much better in anyway...the arc looks smooth as, the reviews say as much...gingerbread is great, have got the latest version plus have promised to upgrade quickly...i have the x10 and it has been nothing but great as long as you don't expect too much from a company that told everyone exactly what to expect with the x10 anyway... plus looking at other forums, ppl have been complaining about crap LG build quality and crappy GPS and lag on samsungs, so each to their own i guess.

I think have done well to differentiate themselves from the rest of the crowd and hope they can make a ton of money with this range so they can keep bringing us new stuff. Used to own an htc and as good as they are, i just wanted something different because it seems to me that every htc being released seems to be just like any other htc. they are all pretty much the same... if i had the finances i would buy both the play and arc but for me, the arc just seems almost the perfect phone for now...who knows, maybe in a year or two dual core phones can really start to shine and be optimised. for me, i don't understand how smartphones can get any smarter...would rather dual cores in things like tablets which is why the xoom is really appealing for me as well.

sorry for the long post, just my 2 cents. Peace guys, if you don't like you don't have to be in this forum.
[ This Message was edited by: winnerzero on 2011-02-14 12:48 ]



You have used Samsung and HTC? can you tell me how X10 actually wins in front of these two companies?
I have had friends who loves X10 even after using HTC/iPhone but no specific reasons! While I know the limitations of X10 but do not know where it actually wins

Posted by >>SAMEH



You have used Samsung and HTC? can you tell me how X10 actually wins in front of these two companies?
I have had friends who loves X10 even after using HTC/iPhone but no specific reasons! While I know the limitations of X10 but do not know where it actually wins



its not just what "list" of Specs. u have got on ur phone to make it definitely as a winner.. some time the positive feeling that u get & d entertainment experience can change the equation..

Posted by KU
strike hard and even if anybody is going to camp for any device, apart from the next Iphone. succeed to impress me these devices are so sweet and flawless, and in spite of being very similar they all have the small diferential stuff that's impressive.

Posted by Gok



You have used Samsung and HTC? can you tell me how X10 actually wins in front of these two companies?
I have had friends who loves X10 even after using HTC/iPhone but no specific reasons! While I know the limitations of X10 but do not know where it actually wins



I have used 5 different brands of phones since early 2001...Nokia, Samsung, HTC, Apple, SE.

Nokia 3310 > SE T68 > SE T616 , Samsung T100 > SE S710 > SE W800 > SE W900 > SE M600 > SE Z610 > SE S500 > SE W910 > SE K850 > SE X1 , HTC Diamond 2 , Apple WhatPhone > SE X10

I think I can skip the Nokia...

T68 was my first SE and was a given to me from my bro. I called him nuts when he bought the T68... spent a lot of $$$... but when I got it... it totally changed my mind.. anyone remember bluetooth battleship? It was a wonderful experience and thats when my SE addition took off.

My first SE I bought with my own money was T616.... It was AWESOME. I really enjoyed that phone.. first phone the was riding on AT&T's GSM 850. I was from T68 bad antenna to the awesome T616.. full bar everywhere.

I got the Samsung T100 as a gift to someone, but came late so I had to buy another one. I ended up with one extra so I started using as a spare.... did really get the feel of the UI.. so went straight back to my T616.

SE S710, W800, W900, M600 were all really great phones and I had a wonderful time and experience with them all.. remember the w900 semi auto flip? good old wasted class time.

SE Z610, S500 was bit of a different story.. dont know why I bought those.. probably for the looks. I am used to the UI from previous phones, but it wasnt what I wanted.. wanted more. I would say those are 5.5/10.

SE w910 redeemed a bit of faith in SE for me... wonderful walkman phone..never got the hang of the shake to fast forward thing. How do you used it again?

SE K850.. bet a lot of peeps here remember this one! I was hooked on the cybershot brand so I bought into the hype... I was pissed with the results.. and feel betrayed when the support quickly ended.

SE X1.. first Xperia... SEXY BEAST.. I remember the first day I had it and it was a excitement I havent had in a awhile. After the first few days... and excitement is gone... SLOW! then came XDA.. it helped but it was still slow.

HTC diamond 2 was actually my bro's. I used it for a bit and it was a lot faster than my X1.. I thought it was pretty good looking and was actually going to buy one..

Apple.. what can I say.. its the IPHONE.. WOOO.... NOT! fast UI, extremely fast coming off of X1.. and that was it. It didnt have phone stuff... cant really say it in words... felt like a mp3 player instead. sold it in 3 weeks.

SE X10.. beauty.. first android.. it was pretty fluid. I was impressed when I got it. From X1 to X10 was wonderful. I knew from beginning that there were better phones out there, but I wanted to give SE another chance. It was either this or a HTC android. I didnt mind getting stuck to 1.6..it was on par of what I had expect from SE after K850.. X1. I dont know.. I had plenty of chances to change phones, but I am still on X10. I keep telling people.. if you dont like it, sell it and get a new one. Phones come out every month.. move along.. and stop BI*CHING.

Since the Z610 days.. most would agree SE has been on a spiral downfall. The glory days of T610/K700 were over. There phones had the POP and it was a one POP and its over as soon as you lay your hands on it. I had bought almost every one of the phones on launch.. and I bought it because of the POP affect... I guess it personal preference... maybe it was the roots set in my mind from the T616,W800,W900. I have always thought SE were the only company that makes phones POP.. now support is a very different story and SE must do a better job on that end. Support and software development must improve for them to get back on their feet.

Most of you would and will call me a fanboy and well.. I am. Whats wrong with that? as long as I dont regret buying them.. and it didnt cost you anything.. then let me be. Cant a guy have hope in a once glory company? I keep buying SE because their products gives me a sense of excitement and makes me want to buy them... even knowing bad support would surely tag along. I know HTC, Samsung, LG, Moto, Apple... all make better specs phones.. but I get this same old same old feeling from those. HTC seem to be stuck on the one housing and specs change but style is always the same. Samsung/LG are on that copy the Iphone mode..and moto... well... moto. Sometimes preference isnt logical, its completely subjective. You like what you like... its a feeling words cant really describe.

just been bothering me all these peeps are bit*hing about BETTER SPECS. If you dont like it.. move along to the next company and dont get upset about it. Its not worth getting upset over it.

Anyway.. Cheers to SE for a good start.. Anyone else excited about the Arc? April is too far away.. you would think our patients have improved from X1 days.

SORRY FOR THE LONG POST..

Posted by Ricke77
Well said, Gok! Couldnt agree more! Im very excited about the arc. It totally has everything that I want. Great cam, hdmi out, dlna, big screen and a sexy look! If I wanted a high spec phone I would wait another 6 month. Then we will see what use there is for dual core. I dont think it will be any bigger difference...


Posted by 10123

On 2011-02-14 00:18:16, koss wrote:
The Arc 8 MP camera with Exmor is shit... horrible picture quality, and wtf.. all models.. NEO, PRO, ARC have the same image sensor.. with same bad quality photos?!. If you compare Aino and Arc pictures.. Aino will be 10class over Arc, Neo, Pro in term of camera picture quality. The question is how true is the afirmation: "Ready for some hard facts? Try 8.1 megapixels. Or maximum aperture of f/2.4 (in short, this means that more light reaches the image sensor). Your Xperia™ arc has the camera muscles you need to get great shots" . In my opinion low light shots are awfull even daylight shots are extremely bad pictures full of noise and artefacts all over the picture.. so what's the point with Exmor R back illuminated senzor.. bla bla if pictures even in daylight conditions looks horrible?? much horryble than AIno or C905..

Even the Lg optimus 2x have much better camera and take much better pictures than XPeria Arc and family(Neo, Pro, Play) so where is that spark who was present in each product?! Much probably that spark had died long time ago.

Shame . I'm a fan but srsly.. true fans see this new xperia family an obsolete family with new clothes only.
Bravia engine... wtf..(we people aren't so stupid) where is OLED screen?? where is Gorrila Glass?, Bluetooth 3, Where is 8MP camera that takes decent pictures not that shitty pictures ARC takes.. Where is a single Droid with xenon not with that painful twinkle led flash..

I am extremly extremly dissapointed..

2008 fail for
2009 fail for
2010 dai for
2011... propably fail for


The proof will be in the pudding, as the saying goes.

Until we see the 2nd quarter results we can't really make these outlandish comments because 99% of the time it isn't the mega phones that gain the most purchase cough c905 cough.

Posted by zub
deluded.... totally deluded people here....

Posted by Ricke77
SE, its like driving a volvo. Once you've bought one you never want to change even if it isnt the fastest car out there!

Edit: I own two volvos... Typically Swedish hillbilly!
[ This Message was edited by: Ricke77 on 2011-02-14 19:40 ]


Posted by Karun
Any idea what happened to the x10 mini pro successor?

Posted by goldenface
Will probably be announced next time around.

Posted by smclion102

On 2011-02-14 20:47:07, goldenface wrote:
Will probably be announced next time around.



After Couple of Months??
any specific Quarter

Posted by goldenface
@smclion102

Not sure. I'm guessing there would be a summer announcement so not this quarter or the next. I'd say June at the latest going by previous year but, who knows.
[ This Message was edited by: goldenface on 2011-02-14 21:16 ]


Posted by Gok


You go SE - arc's in my hand in a couple of weeks!


that fast? Where are you located? Isnt Arc scheduled for April? I Assume its late April? But I hope its early April or even better March.

Posted by Legen
so far i think sonyericsson's stuff at the mwc is some of the best. the galaxy s II doesn't even have an hdmi port does it? and its pretty boring looking. lg's stuff looks like it was cut from stone. motorola...blah. so for me, the arc is looking nice right now.
where's htc by the way?

Posted by zub
the more you fanboys encourage that done a good job the worse it will be for you in the long run. by encouraging this line-up as "great" or "perfect" will mean will feel comfortable and make sales based on fan loyalty alone. the more you holla and piss at them the more they'll be pushed to break into the next frontier. so dont be afraid to show some disappointment guys, no need to show this brave face.....

its good to show some disappointment, will kick into high gear hopefully for the next round


Posted by zub
do you have any idea on a more precise release date? by saying March i have a feeling they mean 30th March

Posted by amardeep
I was hoping to see the mini successor too, it might have been my first Android phone, dependent on pricing. I want something small-ish that is easily pocketable, not too expensive, but with a 480x320 screen so that it will run Android apps reasonably well. A 3"-ish screen sounds about right for me. I had a look at the pictures of the supposed new Mini Pro and have just about convinced myself that it is smaller than the new Pro, not some early prototype of it (using the SE logo and Xperia branding on the back for scale). So I guess there is, or was a new mini in the works, but it doesn't sound like there's an obvious event coming up when it would be unveiled ? I hope it's not cancelled, but in any case it'll probably be too late for my purchase plans.

All the angst about the Arc is amusing ! Perhaps viewing it as a mid-to-high end device, not an ultra high-end bleeding-edge device will cheer people up. There's nothing wrong with that, though obviously it would need to be priced just a little below the real bleeding-edge stuff (or rely on design and camera quality to stand out). Still, it's not the kind of device I'm shopping for, so maybe I shouldn't stick my oar in !

One thing I am mystified about is all these calls for 16MP cameras on a phone, my high-end compact camera has 10MP (and a decent lens). 10MP is more than enough for me, especially as I mostly look at the pictures on a 1600x1200 pixel screen. I would happily accept fewer MP on a phone with it's limited lens.
[ This Message was edited by: amardeep on 2011-02-14 22:15 ]


Posted by >500

On 2011-02-14 22:26:58, zub wrote:
the more you fanboys encourage that done a good job the worse it will be for you in the long run. by encouraging this line-up as "great" or "perfect" will mean will feel comfortable and make sales based on fan loyalty alone. the more you holla and piss at them the more they'll be pushed to break into the next frontier. so dont be afraid to show some disappointment guys, no need to show this brave face.....

its good to show some disappointment, will kick into high gear hopefully for the next round



you do realise that there our people outside this forum that buy phones as well...

you say people are deluded, why? What you want will be different to what some one else wants. Doesn't make them deluded.

I think we can all see that is slightly behind, if you go by processors alone. But is it really that big a deal? For some, maybe, for others, not! At the end of the day, looks play a major part (more so than the internal hardware, I worked in sales for a number of years so know full well what sells more), and the Arc in particular, will sell well because of that.

Posted by zub
hey im sure the tech in the xperia range is more than enough to "do the job" on their respective platforms but what really gets me is slowness into the market. i mean come on, lets look at this properly. these are down right 2010 specs, why is it taking so long to release phones with this type of hardware? its been around for ages. just look at the desire HD.

i just think it is unacceptable for a company to try and compete in such a market to be so late to the game. these phones should've been released in Jan latest IMO, then they would've been "perfect". but dont worry im not arguing the fact that they wont be able to run smooth or do what they're meant to do, its just...... why..... why so late???

look at LG, announcement then soon release in Jan/Feb with new tech, look at samsung announce then release same month (promised) with new tech AND GINGERBREAD.

what has learned from last years debacle? only thing in my eyes and the only thing is that they are releasing with the latest firmware, i say latest but 2.3.3 is coming out, so again their lateness is hampering them. what was stopping them from releasing earlier? the hardware? please, it was around for ages, the software? please gingerbread was out for a while. so why? why dont you ask these questions from rather than praising their sub-par performance?

this is the time when the fanbase should be collating and asking serious questions, so they can properly improve on the next time. not this this happy go lucky bull crap all is good perfect phones best in class shit, come on guys.

dont you fanboys want to ask the same question? i just dont get it. maybe its just me that feels this way....
[ This Message was edited by: zub on 2011-02-15 00:11 ]


Posted by Michalis3
Reduce the screen size of Neo to 3,2-3,3 inches, replace the glossy finish with a matte plastic, like the Vivaz Pro and I'm sold.

Posted by badassmam
@zub

I don't think themselves are claiming to be the best or able to compete with the big boys in the the super high end bracket, thats not what they are about at the moment. They have premium design and some will argue that the experience is what you pay for. The Arc will do well simply because it has a lovely screen and nice design, people will pay for that. I'm a HTC man and I love its functionality but its bland in comparison to offerings. Apple have been doing this forever and it works, iPhone 4 sold a ton even though you knew it had that antenna issue like, 'WTF £700 phone with crap reception!'. You're correct about slowness to the market but, there is something there that makes people wait for the phone even if it is late. You could call it stupidity or fanboyism but, has that 'flava'. I don't think you can argue against that no matter how crap the phone is because people will buy it (unless its like the X2).

Posted by winnerzero

dont you fanboys want to ask the same question? i just dont get it. maybe its just me that feels this way....
[ This Message was edited by: zub on 2011-02-15 00:11 ]



i know what u mean...a part of me was wishing that something fantastic would be coming from this year...and from the consumer's point of view, i guess that is the xperia play! i mean, they must have been working on that for a while now and its something that noone else has or can do....one thing i also realised was that even google and samsung didn't exactly come out with the best phone for 2011 with the nexus s. in my opinion, that phone has 2010 specs as well, with only NFC added on. its what google thinks the specs of a phone should be with the right software to make a great experience overall. my hatred for touchwiz aside, i'm sure the galaxy 2 will sell in great numbers cos everyone thinks it is top of the line in everything, but i don't think there is anything that is outstanding in it.

@indiandawg
in response to your previous question, i honestly didn't like samsung's touchwiz interface. it felt like a child's toy and the usability just didn't feel as good as others. HTC's sense is great and was using that for a long time. But just like all things, I got bored of it and wanted to change to something different. Along came X10 with the UXP and it was great because as slow as it was at times, i thought it was a really good interface to use alongside android. Wasn't plain and boring like iphones.

Edit: totally agree with badassmam
[ This Message was edited by: winnerzero on 2011-02-15 01:57 ]


Posted by echo.shane

On 2011-02-15 00:54:27, zub wrote:
hey im sure the tech in the xperia range is more than enough to "do the job" on their respective platforms but what really gets me is slowness into the market. i mean come on, lets look at this properly. these are down right 2010 specs, why is it taking so long to release phones with this type of hardware? its been around for ages. just look at the desire HD.

i just think it is unacceptable for a company to try and compete in such a market to be so late to the game. these phones should've been released in Jan latest IMO, then they would've been "perfect". but dont worry im not arguing the fact that they wont be able to run smooth or do what they're meant to do, its just...... why..... why so late???

look at LG, announcement then soon release in Jan/Feb with new tech, look at samsung announce then release same month (promised) with new tech AND GINGERBREAD.

what has learned from last years debacle? only thing in my eyes and the only thing is that they are releasing with the latest firmware, i say latest but 2.3.3 is coming out, so again their lateness is hampering them. what was stopping them from releasing earlier? the hardware? please, it was around for ages, the software? please gingerbread was out for a while. so why? why dont you ask these questions from rather than praising their sub-par performance?

this is the time when the fanbase should be collating and asking serious questions, so they can properly improve on the next time. not this this happy go lucky bull crap all is good perfect phones best in class shit, come on guys.

dont you fanboys want to ask the same question? i just dont get it. maybe its just me that feels this way....
[ This Message was edited by: zub on 2011-02-15 00:11 ]


due to how the company cant please you people. all you need to do is move and and stop complaining. im sure if they wanted to make the lastest this or that they will. if you dont like what you get MOVE ON and stop complaining. its so annoying to see these comments GOSH

Posted by HYPER-X10

On 2011-02-14 20:29:49, zub wrote:
deluded.... totally deluded people here....


And loving it

Posted by dancingfate
There will be 5 type sof Xperia Play. The previous rumored index Z1i is also true.



From Xperia Play Whitepaper
[ This Message was edited by: dancingfate on 2011-02-15 03:54 ]


Posted by pmugghc

On 2011-02-14 20:29:49, zub wrote:
deluded.... totally deluded people here....


Is there some forum function that will let a user block out posts from specific posters ? I'd love to be able to get rid of e.g. zub's frequent negative rantings.

Posted by HYPER-X10

On 2011-02-15 04:18:58, pmugghc wrote:

On 2011-02-14 20:29:49, zub wrote:
deluded.... totally deluded people here....


Is there some forum function that will let a user block out posts from specific posters ? I'd love to be able to get rid of e.g. zub's frequent negative rantings.


At least he (usually) backs up his opinions with some level headed facts and reasoning. I don't agree with his opinions overall (I still prefer Arc to Atrix, GS2, Optimus2X for MY use) but it's not a bad thing for someone to be reminding us of the other options out there.

Posted by pmugghc

On 2011-02-15 06:26:35, HYPER-X10 wrote:

On 2011-02-15 04:18:58, pmugghc wrote:

On 2011-02-14 20:29:49, zub wrote:
deluded.... totally deluded people here....


Is there some forum function that will let a user block out posts from specific posters ? I'd love to be able to get rid of e.g. zub's frequent negative rantings.


At least he (usually) backs up his opinions with some level headed facts and reasoning. I don't agree with his opinions overall (I still prefer Arc to Atrix, GS2, Optimus2X for MY use) but it's not a bad thing for someone to be reminding us of the other options out there.


Nothing wrong with pointing out other options and compare specs, but you don't have to insult people and repeat the same negative opinions over and over.
[ This Message was edited by: pmugghc on 2011-02-15 06:08 ]


Posted by zub
All good points. But what I think is are playing it super safe, they are releasing so many phones compared to others, yet they all have very similar hardware, obviously to keep costs down, yet maximise profits. I would have actually like to have seen rather invest into one or two really good phones instead.

But what you gonna do? They're not bad phones for sure, but late? I think everyone will agree.


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