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Posted by zub

On 2011-01-09 06:08:30, >500 wrote:
@synn
sadly, spec sheets are what most seem to care about these days. They seem to forget that if the software side of things...

Even with out dual care, bla bla bla, if the software has been implemented properly (ie, written to ensure you get the most of the hardware) theres no reason why phones like the ARC, PSP phone etc cant run smoothly...

Even with the most advanced hardware, if the software isnt right, then that hardware wont work too well!!!



i am not a spec sheet whore man

heck i would be happy with a 600MHz CPU/GPU combo as long as its attuned and made for gaming. qualcomm/adreno is just standard android phone hardware. heck i'd be happy with 256mb ram if i knew the whole device was made from the ground up for gaming purposes. in MY OPINION, MY VIEW, it just seems like came up with a brilliant overdue concept, the psphone, then just got lazy, stuck a gamepad on to the end of standard android phone hardware. For great gaming performance i believe you need optimized and specialised software AND hardware for a total true experience. tell me what hardware (bar the hardware controller ) are developing specifically for this gaming device? its just arc with controller attached. ofcourse you have the ps pocket software on pshone but i bet you any money that can be hacked and ported over to arc, bet then you wont have the controller ofcourse , but you get my point.

hope change some things at least.
[ This Message was edited by: zub on 2011-01-09 05:34 ]



Posted by zub
PlayStation Phone sized up with numerous devices in another in-depth Chinese preview

http://www.engadget.com/2011/[....]erous-devices-in-another-in-d/

http://android.tgbus.com/lab/hardware/201101/338957.shtml

you gotta say the best looking thing there is the original psp1000 pure sexyness!
[ This Message was edited by: zub on 2011-01-09 05:43 ]


Posted by synn


im sorry but last time i checked this was an ANDROID gaming device, right? you really think developers will just stop with every other device and just start coding games for the psphone? and if you read my posts properly you would see i clearly wrote that "yes games made for the psphone would probably run great". but i was looking at the bigger picture! a truely mobile gaming device! perhaps i missed something and maybe this phone was'nt meant to be that?



Yes. I do believe developers would write games just for this. It's probably one of the reasons why this device took so long to materialize.
Anyone can tack on some hardware controls and call it a day. Hell, even my Milestone has a D pad which works fine for several games However, Sony is a content company too and part of developing such a device is to get content creators like Polyphony (Owned by Sony), Capcom etc. on board to create exclusive titles. Have you noticed how this phone's resolution is exactly twice as that of the PSP? You haven't, because unlike what you claim to do, you have missed the big picture.

Hell, I'll go out on a limb to say that this phone wasn't announced at CES because there already were a lot of Sony announcements and they probably wanted a standalone event to announce the device as well as the platform and the launch titles.

Did you not notice the Playstation Pocket UI in the previews? It suggests that this has something that is totally independent of the Android OS (and exclusive to this device). It's an Android phone PLUS a gaming platform.



again, i dont think you read my posts correctly. i would be happy if they implemented a cpu/gpu architecture similar to that of the psp, i know its so little hardware but does great things, but you forget this is completely different architecture specifically attuned to gaming! which i feel the psphone should have! hardware for gaming! and qualcomm/adreno is not really, its just standard android phone hardware. am i wrong in this?



Yes, you are WRONG. You are too fixated on "Standard Android hardware". The PSP has a RISC based processor and so does this phone. It doesn't matter if this processor has been used in other devices. It's a blank template upon which you can build the device you want.

IT ALL DEPENDS ON CODING. JEEZ!

ALL handheld devices are built upon similar SoCs and how they perform depends on the code written for them.


im sorry you feel that way. im just responded to people views, as you are now. and im discussing the rumoured psphone, is'nt that allowed?

i feel there are too many people here who are too much in love with and whenever someone says something about that may not be in the best light, then he gets whacked. i'm sorry if i've offended anyone, but maybe im just trying to see the bigger picture here, i like , but i am also ready to criticize where i think they are going wrong. Problem?


You are not discussing, you are pushing your ill-informed opinions repeatedly. Like most people on the internet, you are too obsessed with paper specs when that's only a part of the final experience. If you don't know something well, it's better to keep quiet until you can learn more about it with first hand experiences.

I am not "In love with" Sony Ericsson. I have a woman in my life for that, thank you. I use a Moto Milestone, have no intention to buy this device (I'll get the PSP2 proper) or any Android phone in the future. I'm just presenting the facts as they are because; get this: I can think with a level head.

No offense.

Posted by >500
@zub
My post wasn't really directed at you. Was in response to synn's post. Nothing more. Just my general feelings

Posted by jplacson
Sigh, I was hoping for a 2.5" hires 640x480 screen and much thinner version for the mini pro. Oh well, let's see what the official new line up will be.

Posted by argiriano
I don`t understand why PSP phone is defined as thick phone?
It have 4" screen, camera with stereo microphones, stereo speakers, slider form factor with dedicated hardware buttons and it`s back curved ergonomically for both hand gaming while it`s just 14mm thick. X10 is 12mm and most of the phones which aren`t sliders are around that... so where is the thickness?
After seeing Chinese preview I have to say I find Xperia Play pretty good device. I`m not into mobile gaming and this phone isn`t in my interest for buying, but still I`m kinda interested in it.
Yeah, X-Play don`t have dual, quad or more cores running at 2 or more Ghz, don`t have 4GB or more RAM and stuff like that to impress 2 or 3 people around here and there, but still this device may be success if only Sony and SonyEricsson made things smarter this time around and work even closer with dedication and support of this platform. And as I see form the Arc presentation they actually doing it... so the near future will tell us the truth.


Posted by argiriano

On 2011-01-09 09:20:58, jplacson wrote:
Sigh, I was hoping for a 2.5" hires 640x480 screen and much thinner version for the mini pro. Oh well, let's see what the official new line up will be.


I think it would definitely be slimmer than x10 mini... even PSP phone is slimmer than x10 mini.

Posted by hihihans
I know psp phone takes all the attention. But what is there to tell abouts the new mini pro duo? Is there any news about what camera is inside?

Posted by c96sthl

On 2011-01-09 06:08:30, >500 wrote:
@synn
sadly, spec sheets are what most seem to care about these days. They seem to forget that if the software side of things...

Even with out dual care, bla bla bla, if the software has been implemented properly (ie, written to ensure you get the most of the hardware) theres no reason why phones like the ARC, PSP phone etc cant run smoothly...

Even with the most advanced hardware, if the software isnt right, then that hardware wont work too well!!!



I can't agree more....all this thing used to happen in Computer and now its spread to mobile phone...people just want to get the fastest, greatest spec into the machine but forgotten due to many reason...software might not able to catch up with it.


Posted by avmaxfan

On 2011-01-09 11:15:35, c96sthl wrote:

On 2011-01-09 06:08:30, >500 wrote:
@synn
sadly, spec sheets are what most seem to care about these days. They seem to forget that if the software side of things...

Even with out dual care, bla bla bla, if the software has been implemented properly (ie, written to ensure you get the most of the hardware) theres no reason why phones like the ARC, PSP phone etc cant run smoothly...

Even with the most advanced hardware, if the software isnt right, then that hardware wont work too well!!!



I can't agree more....all this thing used to happen in Computer and now its spread to mobile phone...people just want to get the fastest, greatest spec into the machine but forgotten due to many reason...software might not able to catch up with it.




Who said so ? Did you check the video demo of the Moto Atrix capabilities ? It is so powerful that it has narrowed the gap between a smartphone and a laptop. Dual core is no marketing gimmick. And for those who think it is, let's wait a few months and see if your opinion remains the same or not.
I hope will launch its dual core phone soon enough and not play the catch up game all over again

Posted by Xajel
I don't know, but I think the Xperia Play thickness comes mainly from nice high-capacity battery... you know such a device will consume a lot while gaming !!

maybe a minimum of 1500mAh ( like Arc ) is required for such a device and I know even 1500mAh is not enough considering how much gaming consumes power !!

the psp go battery is 980mAh ( original was 1800mAh, slim was 1200mAh. but Go has better & newer hardware that consumes less power + more power saving features ), I choosed this coz it is the closest to Xperia Play ( no UMD disc )... in any way even with that there's a lot of differenet... PSP is a device that is built for games, so spec. might not seems high but games are free to use most of it, same as Playstation, XBox, Wii, etc... in non-gaming platform ( PC, mobile phones ) the OS take a lot of hardware resources so you need higher spec. to get the same experience as of a dedicated game console/device...

all PSP's comes with a Sony CPU based on MIPS tech. and works at 333MHz (actually works at lower 222MHz )... compared to 1GHz on Xperia Play. GPU in another hand is another story...
screen resolution is lower same as screen size ( 3.8" in PSP Go )

even with these low spec. compared to Xperia Play rumoured spec.'s the battery life in PSP Go is still low at 3-6 Hours of playing, thats on that much less than Xperia Play hardware...

Posted by Ultimus

On 2011-01-09 01:31:59, zub wrote:
now i know you say it is specialised gaming device, optimized, etc but i dont believe this, how is this optimized in any hardware spec way? it is qualcomm/adreno ffs, same as HTS desire HD and Desire Z, imo this does not qualify as optimized for gaming. yes you can optimize software to better run on such hardware but you'll hit limits way sooner. for example you can re-map an ECU on a car to get more HP but very soon you'll hit a limit and you have to now buy and add new parts and hardware.

For me this specs for psphone looks like a 2010 spec android phone with gamepad attached, that is all. i was really really hoping for some hardware spec attuned to real gaming. it would be better if made a gaming device first then added phone support, but this one they have made a normal mediocre android phone then added a gamepad.

Fair enough. Thanks for responding and true, my assumptions are based on some speculation as well. And of course, the more powerful hardware, the better, although power consumption and price are important too.

But, one thing to add that I didn't see anyone mention yet: It is a fact that Google optimized Android 2.3 for gaming, so that games (or any apps) can access the GPU more directly. With the Xperia Play being Android 2.3 out of the box, all of the exclusive games can be optimized much more.
[ This Message was edited by: Ultimus on 2011-01-09 11:17 ]


Posted by io_bg

On 2011-01-09 10:27:18, argiriano wrote:
I don`t understand why PSP phone is defined as thick phone?
It have 4" screen, camera with stereo microphones, stereo speakers, slider form factor with dedicated hardware buttons and it`s back curved ergonomically for both hand gaming while it`s just 14mm thick.

IIRC, the Xperia play is 17 mm thick which is quite a lot. I hope this'll let them put bigger battery.

Posted by pavlov's_dog
Fact: the Xperia Play is only 14mm thick...which is very thin for a slider.

Posted by Shino03

On 2011-01-08 07:08:24, Alihosny wrote:
i think th 8.1 exmor r sensor in the arc makes it image centric device.
only samples from the camera will show if it can face the n8's great cam.crossing fingers.

it would be great if there is a reduced (in size) version of the phone with the same exmor r sensor like a 3.5" version.make it and i am sold.
[ This Message was edited by: Alihosny on 2011-01-08 06:16 ]



I don't think that the Xperia arc is the next high-end image centric device. First, it doesn't have a proper flash(Xenon). 2nd, although 8mp is enough, I'm sure that the next satio will have 12mp or 16mp. 3rd, it seems to me that is not much advertising its camera capabilities(except for the exmor part) that they didn't bother to put an 8mp logo on its back.

But I'm happy that we can now enjoy exmor and bravia technologies which were japan only before
[ This Message was edited by: Shino03 on 2011-01-09 12:02 ]


Posted by sambouka
the PSP GO is 18,5 mm thick

Posted by angryman


Posted by Ricke77
Quote:
I'm sure that the next satio will have 12mp or 16mp.



Ofcourse they should make a new monster cameraphone but please, don't say "New Satio"... It's one of the crapiest devices they ever built. I'm gonna replace mine when the Arc hits the stores!! Acctually, I can give it away for free!! Nokia crap Symbianshit or whatever.... Glad SE is of the Symbian bandwagon...



Posted by c96sthl

On 2011-01-09 11:26:17, avmaxfan wrote:

On 2011-01-09 11:15:35, c96sthl wrote:

On 2011-01-09 06:08:30, >500 wrote:
@synn
sadly, spec sheets are what most seem to care about these days. They seem to forget that if the software side of things...

Even with out dual care, bla bla bla, if the software has been implemented properly (ie, written to ensure you get the most of the hardware) theres no reason why phones like the ARC, PSP phone etc cant run smoothly...

Even with the most advanced hardware, if the software isnt right, then that hardware wont work too well!!!



I can't agree more....all this thing used to happen in Computer and now its spread to mobile phone...people just want to get the fastest, greatest spec into the machine but forgotten due to many reason...software might not able to catch up with it.




Who said so ? Did you check the video demo of the Moto Atrix capabilities ? It is so powerful that it has narrowed the gap between a smartphone and a laptop. Dual core is no marketing gimmick. And for those who think it is, let's wait a few months and see if your opinion remains the same or not.
I hope will launch its dual core phone soon enough and not play the catch up game all over again


ok maybe its too early to tell but lets see how the consumer research show in coming months about the usage of smart phone... I am referring general public not tech savvy community like us. I just feel the power given is too much because day and night...people around me don't use phone's capability to the max...this is common at Asia where phone can be refer to as a "SHOWING OFF" or Stylish accessories.

Posted by Alihosny

On 2011-01-09 13:01:04, Shino03 wrote:

On 2011-01-08 07:08:24, Alihosny wrote:
i think th 8.1 exmor r sensor in the arc makes it image centric device.
only samples from the camera will show if it can face the n8's great cam.crossing fingers.

it would be great if there is a reduced (in size) version of the phone with the same exmor r sensor like a 3.5" version.make it and i am sold.
[ This Message was edited by: Alihosny on 2011-01-08 06:16 ]



I don't think that the Xperia arc is the next high-end image centric device. First, it doesn't have a proper flash(Xenon). 2nd, although 8mp is enough, I'm sure that the next satio will have 12mp or 16mp. 3rd, it seems to me that is not much advertising its camera capabilities(except for the exmor part) that they didn't bother to put an 8mp logo on its back.

But I'm happy that we can now enjoy exmor and bravia technologies which were japan only before
[ This Message was edited by: Shino03 on 2011-01-09 12:02 ]



agree on the flash part although it is impossible to implement a xenon and keep it thin.the fact that they are not concentrating on the exmor r on the arc website worries me ,it gives you the impression that they are not expecting much from the camera.at least for me it's imaging capabilities is more than enough.good luck to you with next satio ,i hope it's great. have certanly improved their strategy, i am expecting a big 2011.

Posted by huiyi
PSPHONE。Disassemble。 Link text...





















Posted by Ricky D
niiice

Posted by KU
Looks slim for a slider, plus 5 hours of playtime not bad nore amazing still it isn't playstation pocket games.
Wjat is this synaptic chip for ? is it for gaming process ? wainting for MWC to se the next big 2011 product from SE (the dual core SE phone to shut eldar f*****g clap off ), but the arc is still better apart if playstation pocket alow to play at the little PS3 game (the ones over playstation network only).
[ This Message was edited by: KU on 2011-01-10 11:16 ]


Posted by HxH

On 2011-01-09 20:50:00, Ricke77 wrote:
Quote:
I'm sure that the next satio will have 12mp or 16mp.





Ofcourse they should make a new monster cameraphone but please, don't say "New Satio"... It's one of the crapiest devices they ever built. I'm gonna replace mine when the Arc hits the stores!! Acctually, I can give it away for free!! Nokia crap Symbianshit or whatever.... Glad SE is of the Symbian bandwagon...






Oh don't remind me that nightmare, I trying my best to forget it
What's the hell about after a year warranty run out already, battery capacity seem going to decline.
A day on table almost do nothing took about 20% while my 3Gs everyday at labour work,
still fine at same situation less than 10% drained out
Looking for ARC as it replacement but it will take me sometime after hit the shelves.

Posted by goldenface
5 hours of playing time is really good although I was expecting it to have a larger battery. Also, it doesn't look as big and fat as some are making out

Posted by zub
PlayStation Phone captured in the wild, on video

http://www.engadget.com/2011/[....]captured-in-the-wild-on-video/


Posted by Ricke77
Quote:

On 2011-01-10 18:54:29, goldenface wrote:
5 hours of playing time is really good although I was expecting it to have a larger battery. Also, it doesn\\\\\'t look as big and fat as some are making out\\n


I think its fantastic! If I can get my Satio to last 5 hours on standby it would be a freakin' miracle!!

Posted by io_bg
5 hours isn't that much. Vivaz's battery, for example, can last up to 4 hours while playing.

Posted by tranced
Even the video is in 360p I guess we could have an idea of what it be like. The phone runs quite well when playing. But I think there were some lags. Am I asking too much?


On 2011-01-10 19:52:38, zub wrote:
PlayStation Phone captured in the wild, on video

http://www.engadget.com/2011/[....]captured-in-the-wild-on-video/


Posted by echo.shane

On 2011-01-09 03:14:23, MyP910 wrote:
to me :-

1) SE has outdone themselves.
2) SE always manage to come out with a design that distinguished them from the rest. How many time we've seen samsung, HTC, LG come out with a copycat design or lookalike design. SE has a good designer that differentiate themselves from making iphone-like design.
3) The UI and performance (based on the youtube video) are on their own league.

Congrats SE !


I'LL DRINK TO THAT.......THANK GOD I DIDNT BUY THE DESIRE Z. Im yet awaiting a arc pro or something like or better than the desire z from sony ericsson like a 4inch with qwerty board.. i might get duo if it has everything or most of arcs feature

Posted by jplacson
's problem is that they have way too many models. This may give the impression of options and choice, but it also drains resources for R&D, support, and economic manufacturing.

should really concentrate on the android line, and maybe have 2 non android phones, Like the the elm and hazel.

Posted by c96sthl
I really wonder does anyone have rumor of any new SE accessories for 2011

lately...SE's seem kinda lack the innovation for their accessories. Now it seem Motorola have more interesting stuff

hopefully they are just holding back for MWC 2011.

Posted by wario
I really wonder does anyone have rumor of any new SE accessories for 2011


yeah, i was hoping for an update to their MW600 stereo bluetooth headphones at CES. i really wanted to get those but heard the volume slider wasn't too responsive.

i guess we'll see at MWC next month.

Posted by goldenface

On 2011-01-11 02:52:04, jplacson wrote:
's problem is that they have way too many models. This may give the impression of options and choice, but it also drains resources for R&D, support, and economic manufacturing.



Well the only models we see leaking are running on Android. That must tell us something.
[ This Message was edited by: goldenface on 2011-01-11 09:10 ]


Posted by 10123

On 2011-01-11 02:52:04, jplacson wrote:
's problem is that they have way too many models. This may give the impression of options and choice, but it also drains resources for R&D, support, and economic manufacturing.

should really concentrate on the android line, and maybe have 2 non android phones, Like the the elm and hazel.



Not really, last years Android range of devices were all (disappointingly) clones of each other on the software side of things, 10 Mini/X10 Mini Pro/X8/Yendo were all the same. Even the Yendo that isn't Android was a clone of the X10 Mini shell just without android.

Satio and Vivaz ranges are all but gone now but again clones of each other.

Elm, Hazel and Spiro were pretty much 2008/2009 inspired models as they didn't bring anything new either.

Once each shell for each platform is created it wouldn't cost any where near as much, once the X10 was made it was easy going for SE as they could implement it on 3 other phones with some little tweaks here and there.
It's pretty obvious SE's R&D department is lacking innovation, even the Arc is all Marketing with little substance.
[ This Message was edited by: 10123 on 2011-01-11 17:12 ]


Posted by mustafabay

On 2011-01-11 18:09:24, 10123 wrote:

Not really, last years Android range of devices were all (disappointingly) clones of each other on the software side of things, 10 Mini/X10 Mini Pro/X8/Yendo were all the same. Even the Yendo that isn't Android was a clone of the X10 Mini shell just without android.

Satio and Vivaz ranges are all but gone now but again clones of each other.

Elm, Hazel and Spiro were pretty much 2008/2009 inspired models as they didn't bring anything new either.

Once each shell for each platform is created it wouldn't cost any where near as much, once the X10 was made it was easy going for SE as they could implement it on 3 other phones with some little tweaks here and there.
It's pretty obvious SE's R&D department is lacking innovation, even the Arc is all Marketing with little substance.
[ This Message was edited by: 10123 on 2011-01-11 17:12 ]



1. Phones of the same manufacturer are supposed to be different on the software level, is that what you are saying?There should be no unified look to the software? Well I guess all companies are guilty then; HTC Smart having Sense like the Androids. But oh sorry Motorola is the example of what to follow, they can't decide how heavily to skin each device so each one is different.

2. All symbians were clones just like all androids

3. You are surprised that the dumbphones are mid to low end? End isn't every low or mid end based on last year's high end more or less? And really do you see any specs that can be bumped upward and sell at that high price?

4. I'm pretty sure the X10 minis had unique UI elements not in the X10.

5. What is wrong with the arc? It seams like an extremely well designed upgrade to the X10. I don't see the marketing part in it almost everything was upgraded. Heck if it comes out in Q1 like they said it will be the second phone with Gingerbread after the Nexus S

6. And finally nice to say their R&D is lacking creativity based on only the first phone of the 2011 line up. They reworked the skin to make way for easier updates. They have a small project called the PS phone which only has one engineer with a couple interns working on it(its small remember). But yeah totally lacking creativity

Posted by goldenface
Well said mustafabay. Last year's X10 range all had a similar 'look' because that's how a company differentiates itself and build up a brand identity.

Four different phones sharing an operating system all having different designs? It's hardly what you'd call cloning.

Posted by huiyi
Within the core. . Test scores. . CPU 1G。。






XPERIA PLAY 1688。。Nexus S 1570..XPERIA PLAY Neocore 3D 57.8FPS。NEXUS S Neocore 3D 55.7FPS。。






Posted by avmaxfan
Still the scores are much lower than stock HTC Desire HD. I wonder why, even when the processor is the same. I know its a pre release unit but it should be around 1750 + atleast.

Posted by sambouka
I find it a bit strange to say the least, to watch the xperia play being tortured/dismantled/showed off everywhere over the web, for more than a month, and neither Sony Ericsson nor Sony or whatever company declaring paternity rights...or anything at all.
As far as I remember, I haven't seen any SE phone being "exposed" in this manner, before it being announced.

Posted by tranced
It is a good reasoning. During all the time I have been visiting the forum I have not seen an unannounced phone being taking apart. Can we think that this "proto" got stolen?

Posted by jj03
Maybe se are just letting things be. Creating buzz via photos etc.

Posted by c96sthl
its the most detail leak....more than what Gizmodo did for iPHONE4. but kinda unethical if its an "unathorized" leak.
Even if die hard fans who enjoy leak feel happy but this really seem too much

of course it didn't create as much theory whether someone lost it in a bar at China (since all the sites leaking the info come from china) and the name of the person passing this stuff out.

and too bad SE don't have a fierce CEO like Apple....
but i wonder if they have a press conference at china...will those site leaking the phone be invited? LOL
[ This Message was edited by: c96sthl on 2011-01-12 22:39 ]


Posted by synn
Most definitely a controlled leak, starting from the Engadget exclusive posts.

Eldar must be hurting deep inside because everyone and his grandma are getting their hands on it but he isn't.

Posted by goldenface
Probably wouldn't fair well in his hands anyway. I'm waiting to see if he slates other manufacturers for launching phones with anything less than Gingerbread in 2011.

Posted by c96sthl

On 2011-01-13 02:46:23, synn wrote:
Most definitely a controlled leak, starting from the Engadget exclusive posts.

Eldar must be hurting deep inside because everyone and his grandma are getting their hands on it but he isn't.


this statement is worst than rubbing salt on wound

its like taking a knife, cut the wound then place the salt inside!!!!

Posted by zub
ohh i think sony may royally screw sony ericsson over....

"But the device will also provide access to plenty of downloadable content, smaller games and apps via PSN – and maybe even incorporate a phone, but not as a primary function."

Sauce: http://www.mcvuk.com/news/424[....]erful-as-PS3-set-for-Q4-launch

dont know about you guys but im definitively leaning towards a PSP2 over a PSPhone. this is what i was hoping from the start! a gaming device first then a phone second. but the PSPhone defo feels more like a phone than a gaming machine.

my wishes may be answered yet....
[ This Message was edited by: zub on 2011-01-13 09:40 ]


Posted by synn
They target two different consumer bases.

The PSPhone targets the more "Casual" gamers (i.e. the iPhone crowd) who play something during their commute for a couple of hours a day and more importantly, are not willing to pay more than a few dollars for a game.

The PSP2 is targeted towards the more "Serious" gamer, who plays several hours a day, wants graphics almost as powerful as full size consoles and is willing to pay more for the titles. He also doesn't believe in convergence and prefers to save the phone battery for phone like functions.

I'll find myself in the second group too, but there are a lot of people in the first group as well. The PSP2 will almost certainly have Skype with video calling and perhaps a 3G radio, but it's no replacement for a pure phone.

Assuming things are as I expect them to be, Sony/ SE have played their cards well.
[ This Message was edited by: synn on 2011-01-13 11:37 ]


Posted by goldenface
Plus, it's always nice to have a choice.

Posted by goldenface
Hardly seems like a rumour now http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=200092


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