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Posted by ithehappy
Well, I was thinking to get one next week especially for it's price and design. I just wanted to know how is the 16M color TFT display of the device? How sharp and vibrant is it? I previously owned a W995 and I was shocked by the poor display of it, the colors looked so faded, though it had 256K screen. The best 16M colored display (non touch) I owned was the N95. Can I expect same from Hazel? or better or worse? and What about the earpiece volume? Is it that same medium range like other SE phones or been increased?
Hazel owners please put your inputs.
Thanks.
[ This Message was edited by: ithehappy on 2010-05-29 10:54 ]



Posted by centur
Sony Ericsson C902 (262144 colors) and Nokia 6300 (16777216 colors) :


















Now do you believe millions of colors mean better display?

Posted by moby1
w995 to hazel? Do you think its worth the upgrade?

Posted by ithehappy
Well you guys got me wrong, I didn't think 16M>262K all the time and that's why I asked the question. That Cyber Shot and Nokia 6300 comparison is beautiful. But as I said I had a W995 and I was not happy with the display, the colors were so faded, So what I am asking is is the Hazel display same with that Cybershot or better? If you please make a photo comparison between a Hazel and a W995 that would be perfect, or also you can compare with the Cybershot C902 if the Hazel display is better. Hope this time I made myself clear.
BTW- What's so special about W995? I didn't like that Peeling off of SE logo from the back, I didn't like Walkman 4, it didn't have the Mega Bass feature like 2.0, the Camera quality for a 8MP was not good and as I said the display, I really didn't like it.
Thanks.
[ This Message was edited by: ithehappy on 2010-05-29 14:19 ]


Posted by Bonovox
Whats wrong with the w995 display? I know it was only qvga and 2.6 inches which showed up the pixels more but the screen was vibrant. I have seen many 262k screens from Sony Ericsson which look far better than 16 million on some Nokia phones. Dont be fooled by it. We have had this discussion before but whilst the Elm's is not the most vibrant I have seen I have no idea about the Hazel. I know its bigger but as far as reviews go they say its better.

Posted by ithehappy
Thanks, now I really need to see the Hazel display in comparison with others, so I am requesting center again to do a comparison please.

Posted by centur

On 2010-05-29 16:39:43, ithehappy wrote:
Thanks, now I really need to see the Hazel display in comparison with others, so I am requesting center again to do a comparison please.


Нext week if I have time to compare them, but I'm not sure if Hazel is still in my city.

Posted by ithehappy

On 2010-05-29 18:33:32, centur wrote:

On 2010-05-29 16:39:43, ithehappy wrote:
Thanks, now I really need to see the Hazel display in comparison with others, so I am requesting center again to do a comparison please.


Нext week if I have time to compare them, but I'm not sure if Hazel is still in my city.


Thanks, I will be eagerly waiting for it.

Posted by >500
look at GSMArena's review of the handset. They think its very good if i remember correctly. Also very good sunlight legibility.

Posted by ithehappy

On 2010-05-30 04:39:06, >500 wrote:
look at GSMArena's review of the handset. They think its very good if i remember correctly. Also very good sunlight legibility.


Yep, I checked that already. But I don't believe in a 2 lines comment, they just said the display is vibrant and images are remarkable, but no pictures, nothing else. They also said the W995's display were good, but I learned the lesson after purchasing it, it was nowhere near good. So this time I'll buy one only after your positive comments and some photo comparison, which centur will provide next week. This is the only website where most of the SE users are available, so why the heck will I care others?
Thanks.

Posted by ithehappy
Well I googled a lot and it seems the C901 has one of the Best display of SE group. So I am requesting Centur to do the comparison with C901 and Hazel as soon as you get it.
Thanks.

Posted by NoroBiik

On 2010-05-29 12:31:54, centur wrote:
Sony Ericsson C902 (262144 colors) and Nokia 6300 (16777216 colors) :

Now do you believe millions of colors mean better display?



Agreed, it's a myth that 16M colors mean anything on a small cellphone screen. You'd need a netbook or iPad sized display to tell the difference. Pic of W995 menu display below (taken with the Elm , EV set to -3 to show off the brightness of the screen.



Posted by ithehappy
Why you guys are getting me wrong? I may not be an expert but still I am not a noob. I know that colors mean nothing. That's why I created this thread and asked whether the Hazel display is good or not. If I were that noob then I wouldn't have asked anybody and just purchase the Hazel for it's 16M color. What I wanna know is How the Hazel display is? Is it with the Best displays like- C901/C902 or an average one like W995.
Thanks.

Posted by mriley
The C901 display isn't the best, though it's better than the C902's display, the light sensor isn't good and it flickers from very bright to very dark. Why don't you just go to a phone shop and directly compare the displays of different phones?

Posted by ithehappy

On 2010-05-31 15:02:05, mriley wrote:
The C901 display isn't the best, though it's better than the C902's display, the light sensor isn't good and it flickers from very bright to very dark. Why don't you just go to a phone shop and directly compare the displays of different phones?


The shops in our country or at least where I live doesn't allow to see handsets. There are just dummy versions you can check before buying but not the original unit. If that was the case I will do that first before anyone says. That's why I am nagging here.
Thanks.

Posted by centur

On 2010-05-29 16:39:43, ithehappy wrote:
Thanks, now I really need to see the Hazel display in comparison with others, so I am requesting center again to do a comparison please.


Sorry for the delay, had Elm instead Hazel:







New models not look good - their colors are faded

Posted by nfts-pstrfs
Hey. I have a w995 and actually i find the screen quite good, only the white tone is a bit off. My friend has the hazel. I don't think I noticed any difference between the two.
You can always try a custom driver for the display

(IMO keep your W995, it's better... specially the speakers. Play a bit with custom drivers and wait for a phone worth replacing your w995)
[ This Message was edited by: nfts-pstrfs on 2010-07-11 13:08 ]


Posted by titus1
@TS

If you're concern is a vibrant display..why not check Samsung S7220 Ultra b (that is if its still available in your country). It has an Amoled display (but may struggle under the sunlight), great cam according to GSMArena. And I think it's a good alternative to Elm or C901.

Posted by degraaff
More colors means smoother color transitions; Hazel has a larger screen than the Elm, but the resolution is the same, which means the Hazel has larger pixels (slightly). Larger pixels means that the color transitions are less smooth; this is compensated in the Hazel by giving it a 16m colors screen in stead of a 256k colors screen.

As for the brightness and color intensity, that depends on the ambient light; low light will turn down the backlight of Greenheart phones, making the colors seem more dull.
[ This Message was edited by: degraaff on 2010-07-11 16:21 ]


Posted by buntoo

On 2010-05-29 11:42:51, ithehappy wrote:
I previously owned a W995 and I was shocked by the poor display of it, the colors looked so faded, though it had 256K screen. The best 16M colored display (non touch) I owned was the N95. Can I expect same from Hazel? or better or worse?
Thanks.
[ This Message was edited by: ithehappy on 2010-05-29 10:54 ]



You're the first person saying this about W995 display. W995 display is excellent even under direct bright sunlight.. And its 262K display is far better than n95 16M display. Even my older K850i 262k display is far better than nokia n95, 6500 slide and many other nokias which have 16M colour display.

In simple words, Sony 262K display is better than Nokia 16M display.

You asked about Hazel display.. I'm not sure about it but my Papa has a Yari (U100i) and its 16M display is very vibrant and better than K850i, W995.

Posted by NoroBiik

On 2010-07-11 14:04:12, nfts-pstrfs wrote:
Hey. I have a w995 and actually i find the screen quite good, only the white tone is a bit off. My friend has the hazel. I don't think I noticed any difference between the two.
You can always try a custom driver for the display

(IMO keep your W995, it's better... specially the speakers. Play a bit with custom drivers and wait for a phone worth replacing your w995)
[ This Message was edited by: nfts-pstrfs on 2010-07-11 13:08 ]



Strong WiFi pickup too, not sure about the Hazel but my Elm has a more difficult time grabbing onto less than ideal hotspots.

Posted by degraaff

On 2010-07-12 08:37:47, NoroBiik wrote:

On 2010-07-11 14:04:12, nfts-pstrfs wrote:
Hey. I have a w995 and actually i find the screen quite good, only the white tone is a bit off. My friend has the hazel. I don't think I noticed any difference between the two.
You can always try a custom driver for the display

(IMO keep your W995, it's better... specially the speakers. Play a bit with custom drivers and wait for a phone worth replacing your w995)
[ This Message was edited by: nfts-pstrfs on 2010-07-11 13:08 ]



Strong WiFi pickup too, not sure about the Hazel but my Elm has a more difficult time grabbing onto less than ideal hotspots.


Elm seems to have a weaker wi-fi signal emitter than most other wi-fi enabled phones... it can detect hotspots just as well, but the range of its own wi-fi signal sometimes is too low to actually contact a hotspot and connect to it. Probably also has something to do with the whole greenheart deal...


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