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Posted by bodeh6
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Looks like Nokia S40 is going touch this year. Will SE follow with A2/A3? Aino was partial touch.


Posted by goldenface
14 - 16 more phones for the UK market this year.

More Walkman phones to come this Summer. OSE still supported - other platforms will continue to be supported.

Posted by SilveR.
Make A nice phone Aino with Satio Cam would sell lot more than satio..
Still wait for a phone with good cam with good OS. not Symbian...



Posted by 10123

On 2010-03-03 14:19:19, goldenface wrote:
14 - 16 more phones for the UK market this year.

More Walkman phones to come this Summer. OSE still supported - other platforms will continue to be supported.




SE needs some walkman phones, I don't really like the "entertainment unlimeted" brand, doesn't really make much sense. The satio and aino are the worst examples as the aino excells in music not camera, while satio excells in camera not music if they are serious about music they should come with the best of the cybershot and walkman which the satio or vivaz doesn't.

Posted by bambarah
I might say something odd , but it is a fact

my old parents need a simple mobile which doesn't have complicated menu nor too many bouttons

would create such thing for simple customers ?

my mom is using a SAMSUNG clamshell so she can simply answer the call by opening the flip

and my dad still use the NOKIA 1100 because you use the big button in mid to answer and close

Posted by emuneee
Sony-Sony Ericsson Playstation Smartphone???

Sony haven’t exactly been on a roll lately, but that could all be about to change. According to the WSJ, Sony are planning a new smartphone capable of playing downloaded PlayStation games together with a hybrid netbook/ereader/PSP to take on Apple’s iPad. Both devices will apparently work with a new online media platform that the company are tipped to launch in the US later in March 2010.


As they have before, Sony are partnering with Sony Ericsson on the design of the new smartphone, but according to “people familiar with the matter” are now taking a more active role. That, they say, is because of a growing realisation as to how central smartphones are becoming to the company’s overall strategy.

Meanwhile Sony are also looking at segment-spanning devices – like the iPad – according to CFO Nobuyuki Oneda. The company has confirmed that Senior Vice President Kunimasa Suzuki – who is responsible for Sony’s VAIO division and their Network Mobile Center, together with acting as deputy in the PlayStation and Network Products & Services divisions – is “leading product planning for new mobile devices”, though they unsurprisingly declined to outline what sort of projects may be involved.


http://www.slashgear.com/new-[....]ad-rival-tipped-by-wsj-0476750


Posted by goldenface
Good stuff! It sounds like Sony has taken a fresh look at what Sony Ericsson can be capable of if it threw a bit more Sony clout behind it.

Although it sounds like it might be on the shelves for 2015 - I was rather hoping they had a PSPhone in oven already.

Posted by goldenface
According to this article its gonna be this year.

Posted by Muhammad-Oli
If the rumours of it being able to play only PS1 games are true, then that's a bit crap. PS1 games are 15 years old now, they need to at least make it support PSP games.

Posted by hihihans

On 2010-03-04 19:12:17, bambarah wrote:
I might say something odd , but it is a fact

my old parents need a simple mobile which doesn't have complicated menu nor too many bouttons

would create such thing for simple customers ?

my mom is using a SAMSUNG clamshell so she can simply answer the call by opening the flip

and my dad still use the NOKIA 1100 because you use the big button in mid to answer and close

It's not odd, I had the same problem.
SE is easy to use, Big screen is good too.
old nokia is always good.
My dad(71) now has my old K750 and is very happy with it.
Good luck

Posted by domipost
Why is that in this tread again?

Posted by bambarah
@ hihihans

My dad is 60 years old , and he find the K750 such a problem

I should train him

I wish your dad a long healthy life

Posted by naveedaziz83
an out of topic question...

on the home page of this thread, whenever i go down in the subsections (spy shots for example) and click on back to top button, it takes me to the home screen of esato forum home page.. se_dude .. can you check this out please.

now back on with the topic

Posted by juris15

Link text...

Posted by HxH
sometime in March

Posted by se_love
Oh please god give me new phones. Give me something non touch and not EU. PLEASE.

Posted by xell
In the meantime you have plenty of time to update the first post. Been some time...

Posted by badassmam
There is at least one Walkman for se_love but its no W995 if thats what you were hoping for. I would welcome some Walkman editions of certain phones, but I expect nothing really high end. We can expect a Satio replacement around Summer since Satio messed up quite badly and the same goes for Aino, maybe this time with A2 full touch or something.

The PSPhone is something that has been thought about a long time ago but if it is serious now, Sony will take the lead. The PSP itself was sensational and for that reason, cannot be allowed to fudge this up. It would be much easier for Sony to do it all for themselves because they have their own style and methods. needs to settle itself financially before it starts thinking big. You have to remember that has a small portfolio and very few high ends that are still not even on the market. Sony has the budget and pedigree to make it a success. If do make the PSPhone, I wouldn't expect it anytime soon until they sort themselves out.

Slightly off topic, we still have not seen the laptop/netbook so could this also be cancelled? Twiggy would be a nice addition since I'm seeing a number of people with the W350. Pretty much every phone needs an update, has so many good non touch phones that they could simply update and make a good sale.

Sadly, no real news on anything. No leaks or hints either.

Posted by Legen
well...this sucks

Posted by se_love

On 2010-03-14 14:02:07, xell wrote:
In the meantime you have plenty of time to update the first post. Been some time...

Yeah about that, I am stuck without a PC, and I'm likely going to have to give the torch to someone. Just dunno know. But a walkman is a walkman, I'm not expecting freaking miracles, just something with a 5MP cam.

Posted by rizzamarv
Concerning Walkmans and more... Link text...



Posted by se_love
Ah so they're just going to give us cheap ass Walkman phones and use em as a low line deal? Oh how the mighty have sunk. So low.

Posted by snoFlake
What would you habve them do as selling only feature phones (essentially) hasn't made them any money for the last two years?

Posted by se_love

On 2010-03-16 13:22:41, snoFlake wrote:
What would you habve them do as selling only feature phones (essentially) hasn't made them any money for the last two years?
Well if they actually didn't do terribly with making them, I would have suggested something but I'm mad at SE for doing this. They're turning out to be the next Moto.

Posted by doministry
If this is true

http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=14342#idc-container

I'm off. I don't plan to get tied to a company
which does not let me do anything without a control.

Motherfcuking Microsoft.
All the fun of waiting for WM 7 is dead.



Posted by motvikt
I wonder what SE will do with windows now. Every phone will probably look the same with so hard rules. Then we have the xbox support.. Dont think SE will be to happy


Posted by badassmam
The stuff on WP7 is quite true actually which is putting me off. WM has always been like a proper PC in your pocket which is why its so powerful but now its becoming a dumb phone OS. Yes its more like a phone which some would like but is it really any better than Symbian or Android now that its lost its brains? What if iPhone gets multitasking, what then for MS?

I've had a HD2 with WP7 (early version) and deep down its nothing so amazing. Yes it looks nice and it does everything that a phone does very well but so does the iPhone. My day to day X1 with X2 ROM maybe a bit whack now but its been heavily tuned and customised the way I like it, thats priceless these days. The XDA guys could go into a proper business kitting up WP7 for us, allowing us to install stuff on our phones which sounds ridiculous.

Been spending time with Vivaz and Pro. I think I will probably get one of these. I had a HTC Legend and as beautiful as it is, Android is not for me. Nokia Symbians are not great even with capacitive screens for future N series, I expect them to be dull devices. I can't decide on which Vivaz, qwerty or the much better cam and bloody lipstick stylus. I feel dirty going back to after slamming them badly and destroying many of their phones, my X2 only managed a couple of weeks before decapitation.

The Walkman range will be quite crappy, budget stuff mainly. EU and Xperia will get spec'ed up accordingly.

Posted by emuneee
I think WP7 is truly a victim of the success of Microsoft's other products (the Zune & XBox 360 and to a certain extent Windows 7). They want to have an integrated ecosystem and to be honest, this would have been difficult to do with Windows Mobile as it was (6.X) with its hardware and software fragmentation. I don't blame em. By packaging WP7 the way they did, they will be able to cross sell other products such XBox 360s, Bing, Windows Live, Zune (hardware, software, and media content). This is precisely what Apple is doing with iTunes/iPhone. I can honestly say that MOST people don't want PCs in their pocket. They just want to be able to access the information that matters to them, everywhere they go and entertainment. The fact that you can compress RAR files, edit registries and system files, only matters to geeks/advanced users. Unfortunately, they don't buy the majority of devices. But I digress....

LOL at your X2's decapitation. I recently cracked the screen on my X1 on "accident"....it has been a love hate relationship with this thing, with more hate as of lately. I am going for a Motorola Q9h until the X10 is released in the US or something better comes out in the summer.

Posted by alexlt
Any news on a C905/Satio replacement for this year?? I'm planning to upgrade my C905 in a couple of months, Satio looks good with all the nice upgrades it's getting, so do I wait for something better??

Posted by goldenface
So basically, we won't be getting anything higher than the C905, W995 and Aino for the foreseeable future?

I really don't understand why SE doesn't give us a full touch, mid range, 5.0MP, Walkman branded, PMP/phone based on A200/OSE.

It must be so easy for them to do.

They'd really clean up - big time!

Posted by FMW300
How can the Walkman range be budget stuff? They should be mid to high-end. Aren't there any touch walkmen to come?

Posted by goldenface
A touch enabled feature phone will be coming in the second half of 2010.

A Walkman feature phone will be shipping at the end of the second quarter (July).

Source.



Posted by domipost
Euh, where exactly do you read that the touch phone won't be a smartphone?

Posted by goldenface
Because the point of the article is about the reduction in feature phones and it's discussing how only two orders for such phones will be submitted to Arima communications in 2010.

EDIT: Justamp is reporting that:

Sony Ericsson may also release orders for touch-enabled EDGE handsets to Taiwan makers in the near future, the sources asserted.

Why EDGE when 3G almost the standard now? Doesn't sound very high end at all to me.
[ This Message was edited by: goldenface on 2010-03-19 15:04 ]


Posted by domipost
Well, it does anyway indicate the OS will come

Posted by HxH
EDGE standard here Bangkok cuz 3G corruption still in progress no sign for real available for 2100 band in short time.
also have 850 band in some places but not coverage over metro-city yet sad thing here

but first 3G advertisement way back in some 6-7 years ago how long for 3G investment project never be real until today

Posted by badassmam
Wow....seems like X10 Mini and Pro will be under or around £250. Never expected that in a million years! That could make the phones absolutely huge successes. Imagine if they make the same spec phone with a 3.2 inch screen and slimmer body at a similar price? Copy and paste the Vivaz and put Android in it perhaps?

HTC at CTIA hopefully with more Androids, possibly a qwerty one. Nokia and Samsung were light at MWC so they're cooking up a PeterKay type storm as well but not sure when. We are going to see a lot of action around May/June from everyone.

On personal news, I have ordered a HTC Legend over the Vivaz. Sitting next to each other, you realise that Symbian is sluggish and the Google App store fills in the gaps that I need filling. Internet is much better on Android and generally, the basic tasks are much simpler on the HTC. Honestly, I had to spend much time looking for certain apps that I need and luckily they are available for me. Vivaz has a great camera and can focus on new targets during video, something that Satio's big sis will be getting among other things. Symbian has killed the deal for me probably. Also worth noting is that the old HTC Hero set a Neocore benchmark of 26+ while the X10 does 28+ with twice the processing power which means that the Legend can't be bad.

Also, I got a sniff but it could be way, way off but a high end camera phone on Android. That may mean Satio's sis on Android with all the goodness of Vivaz as well as X10's face recognition software. Imagine that but only imagine until somebody reputable backs me up.

Posted by Ricky D

On 2010-03-19 15:50:33, goldenface wrote:

Why EDGE when 3G almost the standard now? Doesn't sound very high end at all to me.
[ This Message was edited by: goldenface on 2010-03-19 15:04 ]



In China 3G signal is non-existent and EDGE is far more common. I would guess in Taiwan it's not much different. So if you're releasing a handset in Taiwan why pack in a feature that no-one can use?

Posted by Sutitan

On 2010-03-21 01:52:45, badassmam wrote:
a high end camera phone on Android


Id probably buy it. Ive pretty much come to the conclusion that the days on dumbphone cameraphones are pretty much over. Taking the plunge into the touchscreen arena is something I have been long avoiding, but if Andriods on board with high end imaging, im willing to compromise. (Andriod > WM > Symbian for me)

To bad its only a big maybe on the validity of the rumor. But thanks again Badassmam for keeping us up to date on whats going on.

Posted by Ricky D
hi end android camera, I'd buy too, depending on how the X10 washes. If SE announce something truly like this before I can get my hands on the White X10 UK version then I'll be waiting for that and I'll have to cope with Aino + C905 until it arrives.

Symbian is the main reason I didn't get Satio.

Posted by Muhammad-Oli

On 2010-03-21 05:47:49, Sutitan wrote:

On 2010-03-21 01:52:45, badassmam wrote:
a high end camera phone on Android


Id probably buy it. Ive pretty much come to the conclusion that the days on dumbphone cameraphones are pretty much over. Taking the plunge into the touchscreen arena is something I have been long avoiding, but if Andriods on board with high end imaging, im willing to compromise. (Andriod > WM > Symbian for me)

To bad its only a big maybe on the validity of the rumor. But thanks again Badassmam for keeping us up to date on whats going on.

Entirely agree. My brother is getting an X10 so I'll see what that's like, then I'll plunge if this rumour turns into reality.

Posted by tyko
I doubt there will be a high end android camphone for atleast a year, isn't x10 suppose to be their android flagship this year? Maybe the follower to x10 who knows. I think SE will use symbian for camphones for a while. Hoping for satio 2 to be announced soon.

Posted by sunrise_

On 2010-03-21 01:52:45, badassmam wrote:
Imagine if they make the same spec phone with a 3.2 inch screen and slimmer body at a similar price? Copy and paste the Vivaz and put Android in it perhaps?

I want one.

Posted by doministry
@badassmam

Thx for info as usual.

Write anything about WM too
if you have any info!

Posted by XPHCTOC

On 2010-03-21 15:01:03, doministry wrote:
@badassmam

Thx for info as usual.

Write anything about WM too
if you have any info!


You mean WP7S

Posted by Sutitan
Is SE going to be present at CTIA?

Posted by bodeh6
Sony Ericsson isn't listed under the exhibitor list but Ericsson is. So they might not.

Posted by ljf881
Yes the're in Ericsson booth, at least SE North America sent out a twitter about it "CTIA set up today. Ericsson booth lookin good"

Posted by xell

On 2010-03-23 09:54:07, ljf881 wrote:
Yes the're in Ericsson booth, at least SE North America sent out a twitter about it "CTIA set up today. Ericsson booth lookin good"


Plus this:



Posted by doministry

On 2010-03-22 23:34:50, XPHCTOC wrote:

On 2010-03-21 15:01:03, doministry wrote:
@badassmam

Thx for info as usual.

Write anything about WM too
if you have any info!


You mean WP7S


Yes!


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