Posted by io_bg
Yeah, I also can't find any difference in these pics...
Posted by bambarah
Light reflection
No big deal 
Posted by Lollylost100
The plastic has a different finish, which means one of the prototypes is an older device. Satio prototypes had matte housing, while retail models has glossy.
This does not mean one of the devices is a finished product!
Posted by Domecot
I am following this discussion since avmaxman first appeared. I really want
to have a better phone that this Anzu.
Posted by badassmam
There is a pool of hardware that everyone takes a dip into. Dual core processors can be found in LG and Samsung, you'll see others will take the processors as well e.g.
but obviously they take much longer than everyone else which makes them seem incompetent but they do have the hardware. Its obvious that every company has a good idea as to what everyone else is doing which is why most have very similar hardware. There's nothing secretive because Qualcomm for example will go to everyone looking for big contracts.
There are certain technologies that are company specific such as the camera module and this is where the difference can be made i.e. if
implement the 16MP sensor. Samsung have the super AMOLED which they market strongly and now have a good reputation for their screens. Lets say that by the end of 2011, everyone will have a dual core device, if Walkman or Cybershot or PlayStation makes that slight difference its worth marketing.
Strategy is the biggest problem not the lack of innovation because if you look at Sony products, there is so much amazing kit there already. Entertainment Unlimited means nothing and Xperia means 'average' now. It should be that there are low, mid and high end Cybershots and Walkmans. Cybershots get a higher MP count than Walkmans while they get a dedicated music chip. This means that the Cybershots still have good music but not as good as the Walkmans etc. Give them both stripped Android with minimal
interference. As for Xperia, give that the highest camera sensor, dedicated music chip, Time/Mediascape on Android or WP7.
Whenever I speak to an audiophile, they say that music is 10% hardware, 10% mp3 file and 80% headphones. The same can be said for phones and with all that glorious Sony technology and brand names like Bravia at their disposal, they should have this wrapped up.
Posted by io_bg
On 2010-11-19 22:43:01, badassmam wrote:
...
Cybershots get a higher MP count than Walkmans while they get a dedicated music chip. This means that the Cybershots still have good music but not as good as the Walkmans etc. Give them both stripped Android with minimal
interference. As for Xperia, give that the highest camera sensor, dedicated music chip, Time/Mediascape on Android or WP7.
Whenever I speak to an audiophile, they say that music is 10% hardware, 10% mp3 file and 80% headphones. The same can be said for phones and with all that glorious Sony technology and brand names like Bravia at their disposal, they should have this wrapped up.
Why
should not put their interface in Cybershot and Walkman phones? I don't care whether it's, say, mediascape or the good old ordinary Media menu (found in the A200 phones as well as Satio and Vivaz) - I think they should customize the OS. But only the Xperia phones should have both great imaging and sound quality.
I'm not an audiophile but I agree that the head-/earphones make difference. That's why I was disappointed with the ones in Vivaz' box (unlike the ones I found in W595's one when I bought it more than a year and half ago). That's why I think SE should put better earphones for their Walkman and Xperia devices.
Posted by TheBecksF
When the announcement will Be ?
Posted by Platia1
Is it safe to say that Entertainment Unlimited is more or less dead?
Aside from the original launch, there has been little (Vivaz?) if any other phones announced since.
Maybe these Vivaz successors will be Entertainment Unlimited devices?
Also, USB OTG on the Anzu is a great feature to have, and with the addition of a nice office app there could be some really interesting uses for this feature.
Posted by pauvincent
avmax has been silent...... Hmmmmm. I wonder was he silenced by someone?
he's unusually quiet on these matters whether his wrong or right he should be reacting by now kinda makes you wonder
Posted by avmaxfan
On 2010-11-20 04:15:23, pauvincent wrote:
avmax has been silent...... Hmmmmm. I wonder was he silenced by someone?
he's unusually quiet on these matters whether his wrong or right he should be reacting by now kinda makes you wonder
Naah. I haven't been silenced by anyone. I just don't want to argue anymore.
Waiting for the announcements to begin
Posted by pauvincent
On 2010-11-20 05:32:46, avmaxfan wrote:
On 2010-11-20 04:15:23, pauvincent wrote:
avmax has been silent...... Hmmmmm. I wonder was he silenced by someone?
he's unusually quiet on these matters whether his wrong or right he should be reacting by now kinda makes you wonder
Naah. I haven't been silenced by anyone. I just don't want to argue anymore.
Waiting for the announcements to begin
Gooood to hear that bro
any info on when will the announcement be?if their will be this year?
Posted by avmaxfan
On 2010-11-20 06:15:04, pauvincent wrote:
On 2010-11-20 05:32:46, avmaxfan wrote:
On 2010-11-20 04:15:23, pauvincent wrote:
avmax has been silent...... Hmmmmm. I wonder was he silenced by someone?
he's unusually quiet on these matters whether his wrong or right he should be reacting by now kinda makes you wonder
Naah. I haven't been silenced by anyone. I just don't want to argue anymore.
Waiting for the announcements to begin
Gooood to hear that bro
any info on when will the announcement be?if their will be this year?
Not this year
But I hope surprise us with an announcement soon [ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2010-11-20 05:40 ]
Posted by gauravsali
so finally no announcment this year!
Posted by pauvincent
may be their would be an announcement i'm still hoping bert hasn't changed his statement on the BIG surprise in the next few months
Posted by dancingfate
On 2010-11-20 06:39:08, avmaxfan wrote:
Not this year
But I hope surprise us with an announcement soon
Not this year? How about their plan to release some phones in Q1? Rumor has it that the release date of X12 supposed to be in January or Fabruari next year, right?
If the announcement is next year, let's say Q1, I don't believe SE will release the phone only a few weeks after.
So sad.
Posted by zub
if they are going to release Anzu/Mogami that late, it really will be close to low-end phone by the time it hits the market. yes very sad
[ This Message was edited by: zub on 2010-11-20 06:13 ]
Posted by Ricky D
The last handset announcement was X8 right? That was June. I make that 6 months if we're waiting till next year for a new handset. If the time to release is much shorter then that's fair enough but 6 months between announcements is a long. Long enough to disappear from some consumers' minds.
Posted by avmaxfan
On 2010-11-20 07:13:01, zub wrote:
if they are going to release Anzu/Mogami that late, it really will be close to low-end phone by the time it hits the market. yes very sad
[ This Message was edited by: zub on 2010-11-20 06:13 ]
Well I guess it was known already that Anzu would be out for sale only around March - April 2011
Posted by Mizzou
"As we said earlier cakes, Sony Ericsson always produces a prototype device to go from testing Their functions, additional hardware and peripherals. If you take a close look at the HDMI picture is very strange and the image a bit blurred, not sharp. Well actually If I were You guys would not waste time worrying Their review’s Supposed To See These features of the X12 Supposed and Alleged But The images speak for themselves. In our opinion can be just “barely” bad finished prototype, we don´t believe it is final mobile phone Sony Ericsson, this thing is not style Sony Ericsson of make believe. This supposed X12 is just an ogre, horrible, crash, everything, less a Sony Ericsson mobile phone and without commenting on the camera sensor to be a 12MP the sensor goes too unprotected, uncovered, very poor."
One interesting quote from the article on the web "Supposed Sony Ericsson Xperia X12 Live Pics. Did you believe?"
http://seinsider.com/?p=4237
Posted by pauvincent
On 2010-11-20 09:59:29, Mizzou wrote:
"As we said earlier cakes, Sony Ericsson always produces a prototype device to go from testing Their functions, additional hardware and peripherals. If you take a close look at the HDMI picture is very strange and the image a bit blurred, not sharp. Well actually If I were You guys would not waste time worrying Their review’s Supposed To See These features of the X12 Supposed and Alleged But The images speak for themselves. In our opinion can be just “barely” bad finished prototype, we don´t believe it is final mobile phone Sony Ericsson, this thing is not style Sony Ericsson of make believe. This supposed X12 is just an ogre, horrible, crash, everything, less a Sony Ericsson mobile phone and without commenting on the camera sensor to be a 12MP the sensor goes too unprotected, uncovered, very poor."
One interesting quote from the article on the web "Supposed Sony Ericsson Xperia X12 Live Pics. Did you believe?"
http://seinsider.com/?p=4237
Nice article particularly the part of "wait for xmas"
i certainly hope will have something by the end of the year whether announcement or release
Posted by TheBecksF
@avmaxfan : i only want to know one thing .. this fairy tale device you are talking about .. gonna be in the next announcement or not ... if not >> it will be a big fail for SE .. Many fans will leave the Company
i hope we will see something soon ..
Posted by pauvincent
i don't think no mobile company can match
camera wise. I ask myself if fails next year which i doubt, what other phone will i buy interms of camera quality.... Answer? I don't know lets just wait and see come announcement day i think avmax will keep silent for awhile until announcement day comes cheers [ This Message was edited by: pauvincent on 2010-11-20 11:31 ]
Posted by TheBecksF
On 2010-11-20 12:29:46, pauvincent wrote:
i don't think no mobile company can match
camera wise. I ask myself if fails next year which i doubt, what other phone will i buy interms of camera quality.... Answer? I don't know
[ This Message was edited by: pauvincent on 2010-11-20 11:31 ]
yup you are right .. for me and the most people the camera does not mater if the hardware is shit .. i think samsung make pretty good camera's not as good as SE but still good .. if Galaxy S2 will have shocking hardware and 8 mp camera and sony have nothing to compare .. i think i will move to samsung ... 6 years with SE i will be SAD to leave it .. if it does not give me what i want
Still Waiting ..
Posted by avmaxfan
Well yes
does make great camera phones but don't forget - the best camera phone right now is Nokia N8
I am waiting to see
's answer to N8 as well
Posted by pauvincent
i'm pretty much sure
will have an answer to n8 the question is when?i hope its soon may be december 2010 soon hehehe just wishing[ This Message was edited by: pauvincent on 2010-11-20 12:12 ]
Posted by jj03
They'll probably announce something camera centric mid december and actually get round to releasing it in 2015. Lol. I dont consider se at all now when choosing a handset...and i'm sad about that.
Posted by pauvincent
well to each is to his own still have faith with
for how long i dunno[ This Message was edited by: pauvincent on 2010-11-20 13:23 ]
Posted by TheBecksF
On 2010-11-20 13:42:42, pauvincent wrote:
well to each is to his own still have faith with
for hoe long i dunno
for me this is the last chance for the company ,, no decent device means bye bye for
cause i get bored of sympian shit in satio and i want super Ansroid device now
Posted by pauvincent
On 2010-11-20 14:01:23, TheBecksF wrote:
On 2010-11-20 13:42:42, pauvincent wrote:
well to each is to his own still have faith with
for how long i dunno
for me this is the last chance for the company ,, no decent device means bye bye for
cause i get bored of sympian shit in satio and i want super Ansroid device now
+1 but for me
got the whole 2011 to prove themselves i do however wish that they would do it soon
Posted by doministry
I would like to make.believe.
But to be very honest, chances are smaller and smaller.
Because they constantly make CRUICAL mistakes on the software development.
Late upgrades or lack of them.
Instead of building hype they give disappointment.
Or at least release that it's not so bad....
Seriously, there must be idiots in their departments. Clueless people.
Or just old generation.
They will loose more this way. Uptil now they didn't learn from their mistakes.
Almost all the upgrades they made were kind of fails, underpowered:
P990, P1, X2 after X1. And this Anzu or whatever the name is - too.
Looks like a dumb company. They are really behind all the main players.
Big shame and waste.
Posted by pauvincent
On 2010-11-20 15:03:02, doministry wrote:
I would like to make.believe.
But to be very honest, chances are smaller and smaller.
Because they constantly make CRUICAL mistakes on the software development.
Late upgrades or lack of them.
Instead of building hype they give disappointment.
Or at least release that it's not so bad....
Seriously, there must be idiots in their departments. Clueless people.
Or just old generation.
They will loose more this way. Uptil now they didn't learn from their mistakes.
Almost all the upgrades they made were kind of fails, underpowered:
P990, P1, X2 after X1. And this Anzu or whatever the name is - too.
Looks like a dumb company. They are really behind all the main players.
Big shame and waste.
Last chance for
Posted by TheBecksF
SE Say no to TABLETS !!
i hoped they enter this market .. cause im considering to get one
Posted by motvikt
On 2010-11-20 15:51:10, TheBecksF wrote:
SE Say no to TABLETS !!
i hoped they enter this market .. cause im considering to get one
Bert said no SE tablets... But Sony
Posted by avmaxfan
On 2010-11-20 15:58:23, motvikt wrote:
On 2010-11-20 15:51:10, TheBecksF wrote:
SE Say no to TABLETS !!
i hoped they enter this market .. cause im considering to get one
Bert said no SE tablets... But Sony
Yup. Sony has a tablet under development
[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2010-11-20 15:10 ]
Posted by pauvincent
no tablets only superphones
Posted by TheBecksF
lol yup >> But i dont have or like laptops so i want a tablet
Posted by bambarah
I believe what you said that
said NO to tablets
Because Android doesn't support ..... what we can say a tablet !
I mean the resolution for 9 or 10 inches for example
Thats why I was sure that
wouldn't even think in a tablet in the moment
Unless a newer version of Android gives better support for such devices
means wait till FIFA Rio Mondeal
Posted by k700 > Clara
Since 2003 Ive bought a t68, t610, k700, k750, k800, k850, w995 and an Anio. The first 6 phones all went back for repairs with each of then being fixed over and over again. The last 2 phones were good, but always behind what the main stream providers were offering. I have now left sony ericsson and bought a HTC. Its sad, to leave but I want innovation not below par and repairs.
Posted by zub
i dont get this notion "i have to leave
" you dont have any commitment to any manufacturer guys, come on. you can go where you please. i've had sony ericssons, HTC's, Samsung, Motorola. heck i've changed brands three times in the last year. i pick whatever phone works for me. and right now im craving the PSPhone, if another manufacturer were bringing something like that out i would'nt be on these forums but so far it seems its only . only reason im looking at at all tbh.
Posted by Bialynia
SE's biggest selling point to me non-smartphone wise was that it had the best UI, still does in my estimation. When they threw in features no one else had with k750 and k800i they were giving me what no one else had. For whatever reason they quit the formula. The Satio should have been an a200 phone with a Dpad, the c905 should have had VGA recording, the Aino should have had Xenon flash. Japan is still getting awesome feature phones from SE, I don't know why the rest of us don't get access to it. The X10 is my first smartphone since the p800i, it's the best phone SE has ever made, they seemed to have caught the plot again, the silly bickering about why 1.6 instead of 2.1 aside, but I am still disappointed on the feature phone front. I want to buy my mom a phone to replace her trusty k770i, it needs to have SE's UI with video in at least WVGA, and I want the phone to have xenon (or plasma) flash so she can take pics after dark, shouldn't such an option exist in SE's portfolio by now??? It does in Japan! If I could figure out how to import an s003 I would (I am not sure if it has an English UI option and if it takes a SIM card).
Posted by SilveR.
K750 and A200 was past.. just like Walkmans phones..
Right now they need a phone to compete with Iphone.
What I know. All of my m8 has a I phone, SE is past.. few years ago it was SE with K750 and A200.. but it's past..
Sorry to tell,.
But SE is falling ..
Posted by back2you
This technique will be used next phones
Posted by pauvincent
its make or break for
next year
Posted by Ricke77
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Anybody know anything about this??
Posted by smclion102
On 2010-11-20 16:09:44, avmaxfan wrote:
On 2010-11-20 15:58:23, motvikt wrote:
On 2010-11-20 15:51:10, TheBecksF wrote:
SE Say no to TABLETS !!
i hoped they enter this market .. cause im considering to get one
Bert said no SE tablets... But Sony
Yup. Sony has a tablet under development
[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2010-11-20 15:10 ]
I guess
is also making for Android
and Sony is Making with Google Chrome OS??
It wil be better that way
android tablet
Sony Chrome
[ This Message was edited by: smclion102 on 2010-11-21 09:58 ]
Posted by sunrise_
On 2010-11-21 05:53:01, pauvincent wrote:
its make or break for
next year
Like 2009 and 2010.
Posted by hihihans
Bialynia is right. A200 is enough for me too.
Does anyone know if Japan-phones work in europe?
Posted by CELL-P
On 2010-11-21 11:54:48, hihihans wrote:
Bialynia is right. A200 is enough for me too.
Does anyone know if Japan-phones work in europe?
Normally, they don't work and they are locked. They can be used with 'hyper-sim' cards, but most of their features won't work. The other problem is, most SE phones are on AU KDDI. Most people use Docomo and Softbank phones with hyper-sims. And most of the phones from the other Japanese manufacturers are actually superior to Sony Ericsson's Japanese phones. However, regardless of that, I would use any Japanese SE if I could because they are superior to anything we have. Just look at S006 with its amazing display and 16.4 MP camera and Urbano Mod the flip phone. Sony Ericsson is stingy and disgusting in the global market.
There is a "keitai corner" thread in this section if you want more details and Google helps too.
[ This Message was edited by: CELL-P on 2010-11-21 13:16 ]
Posted by doministry
And now the rumour is
is not going to make WP7 soon.....
Idiots.
Posted by Lollylost100
http://www.engadget.com/2010/[....]y-reveal-perhaps-the-playstat/