Posted by badassmam
Eldar (the real one whoever that is) is the man with the devices, he knows what he's talking about and he is well respected which is why the companies give him the prototypes in the first place. Testers here are not allowed to give such critical reviews and not as early as Eldar. However, there are certain things he cannot mention like phones coming in Q2 and Q3. The X12 is a natural replacement for the X10 and those who like the X10 will be happy with the X12. Adding Time/Mediascape and optimising means they will give out the updates late as usual. Its wrong to rubbish the guy when he's giving the preview plus, he gets the devices from
so accept it.
Of course, specs may change if there are issues because they have a time frame in which to be ready so, if a 12MP module fails then they will have to put the 8MP one in but there's time before the actual release. The flip side is that they could improve the spec if they stabilise hardware or whatever. Bearing in mind that
are no longer the top dog, is it unreasonable to assume that their dual core device will come much later than Samsung's for example? The lack of a WP7 device illustrates my point especially when the launch devices were being backed so strongly by Microsoft's own marketing campaign, they spent millions on advertising but missed out. has the same problems as always i.e. software and lateness but that does not mean that the device won't come eventually.
Posted by doministry
Yes, it's true - they're late and it hurts them the most.
Other brands get the spot.
just follows.
It will be hard to revert it back.
HTC is really having a good strategy. As well as Samsung etc.
Posted by rizzamarv
http://www.gsmarena.com/pinch[....]csson_xperia_x10-news-2081.php
Is this a joke? Why they are seriously so late with a thing like this? They spend months preparing for the major update to 2.1 and have been saying all along MT is not possible on X10 and now they are working on it.....?
I believe more and more there is something seriously wrong within this company. Just makes me very
Same with the 16mill. colours. I know its not important but it matters to consumers... Really seems like they haven't heard the BANG!
[ This Message was edited by: rizzamarv on 2010-11-18 00:50 ]
Posted by Shino03
So does this means the end for us? Could someone answer me? The experts have already foretold SE's DOOMED future..
"I can't deny it anymore that I have lost hope for Sony Ericsson, the brand which I had been loyal for years but I guess this is the end of the long-term commitment."
@eldar, thank you for clarifying everything.
Posted by rizzamarv
SE is not doomed. They are profitable and are probably able to stay so with the products they offer. They are just not going to be an industry leader any time some. They will loose there die hard fans to probably HTC and will provide niche products....
Sad but thats what I see for the future if there is no big change in the way they do business.
Posted by se_dude
If we believe eldar, isnt SE supposed to be down and out by now? Wait? What? They are profitable.
Posted by pavlov's_dog
slightly OT but I still maintain that that is not eldar. the mistakes are too systematic and i can tell that the writer is a native english-speaker. who the hell says "just my 5 cents"???
so, my final finding is that we are being infested with big fat trolls.
IMHO btw
Posted by tranced
This is Eldar
Posted by king-james
@ Eldar
GOLDEN WORDS!!! I AGREE WITH U.
YOU SHOULD BE THE SE-BOSS.
[ This Message was edited by: murderjon on 2010-11-18 03:27 ]
Posted by synn
It must be the real Eldar because according to him, a company making more money is the same as them going down.
Posted by zub
On 2010-11-17 20:48:08, aurelius wrote:
Uha, the 3d best selling phone in Sweden in october was X10 mini with mini pro on 5th place.
1. iPhone
2. Nokia N8
3. X10 mini
4. Desire HD
5. X10 mini Pro
Since the mini's came out they have been in the top 3 with a couple of weeks at spot no 1.
It's not true that the mid-range phones doesn't make any money, they do, especially in developing countries.
thank you, exactly.
Posted by zub
@ Eldar - do you have any news on the PSPhone? thats all i care about!
Posted by Platia1
On 2010-11-18 06:05:18, synn wrote:
It must be the real Eldar because according to him, a company making more money is the same as them going down.
I think you will find his concern is for the future for SE, they may be profiting now, but in the near future he believes they won't.
Posted by zub
You know what my prediction is?
you guys are all concentrating on X12 this and X12 that... Anzu this and that... whereas we all know this phone revealed here is not going to save
asses. by the time it will be released the hardware and software will be so outdated. the dark horse here i believe will be the PSPhone and could, if certain things happen, save
you guys dont fully realise the potential. with the new processing chips coming out, phones will have dual cores and more power than ever before, hell phones will be able to surpass PS2/XBOX performance before 2011 is up. Mobile gaming will sky rocket, if
can get the PSPhone right i believe it will save the company and get a headstart in this new market that will be booming very soon.
mark my words, you heard it here first. mobile gaming will be huge by the end of 2011.
Posted by hihihans
I really hope so, Zub.
But SE has let us down so many times in the past that it's hard to believe.
Posted by janke1
eldar knew nothing about satio and x10 before so its probably more hightechphones to come
Posted by zub
On 2010-11-18 09:30:28, hihihans wrote:
I really hope so, Zub.
But SE has let us down so many times in the past that it's hard to believe.
imho what is really holding mobile gaming back at this time is all this touch screen only business. heck the hardware on phones released now can come close to PS2 performance. but there is no real feasable way to play proper full games on touchscreen phones apart from playing "time killer" games. The PSPhone will allow this platform to come into fruition with dedicated gaming controls. it will happen, if
screw it up, someone else will come in and take it. either way mobile gaming will be big business soon, if get it right early they will get a good start.
Posted by synn
On 2010-11-18 08:45:28, Platia1 wrote:
On 2010-11-18 06:05:18, synn wrote:
It must be the real Eldar because according to him, a company making more money is the same as them going down.
I think you will find his concern is for the future for SE, they may be profiting now, but in the near future he believes they won't.
He was bullshitting about SE last year and quite some time before too and claimed they would be like Siemens, closing shop soon. They proved all his predictions wrong and actually started making money this year. Whether him and other immature folks in here want to admit it or not, SE's smartphones have been well accepted, selling well and is making them money. That's doing good business in my books.
...and no, I don't care what SE Russia told him because no one outside Russia cares about Russia. It has no relevance to the world market. Add to that stupid statements like "If it does not have 12 MP it will fail" (When he was chastising SE for playing the Megapixel game when the Satio was launched) and I have very little reason to pay attention to this man.
Not a lot of people in here understand what market segmentation is, nor am I expecting them to do so any time soon. But a basic display of intelligence would be nice.
Posted by hihihans
C'mon guys. What is real and water is not will be clear at release date. Even between announcement and release
makes little changes.
There is no need to bash Eldar. He's known for being harsh on any manufacturer. He, and we all, just want the best possible phone.
Posted by cableguy
Agreed, this is about Rumours and not about bashing other people.
We all need to chill ( i know its hard) and wait for the next SE Announcement
Posted by io_bg
He, and we all, just want the best possible phone.
Unfortunately the best possible phone won't be a
one
Posted by Dups!
This is indeed a rumours thread but if Eldar, who is 'supposedly' having inside info writes silly comments then they need to be addresed. Eldar mentioned in one of his Spillikins editions recently that he was having a number of SE's upcoming devices in his possession and was impressed so much so that he is seeing the kind of SE he was longing for. All of a sudden his mood has changed. After the Nokia N8 debacle I don't know know why anybody would still believe Eldar, add to that the many blunders and incorrect info he has made and given you get an impression of someone who has no credibility at all.
synn is correct, Russia is one of the many markets for SE, and it's not even their major one, so Eldar should stop his skewed thinking in that the Russian market is the be all and end all market for SE. Granted, SE screws up quite a bit and infuriatingly so but they are doing better than previously, they are not there yet but are trying to get there.
Personally, I don't feel that the Anzu is SE's flagship for the year but an X10 that is better optimized and with an up-to-date OS.
[ This Message was edited by: Dups! on 2010-11-18 10:27 ]
Posted by TheBecksF
@eldar :
you make me sad .. All i hope that you are wrong and
didnt show you every devices they intend too release
Posted by >>SAMEH
http://www.engadget.com/2010/[....]72-snapdragon-processor-in-q4/
Posted by back2you
Eldar
Really,
I remember , you lied about Nexus one yeah nexus one is big fake
, Vivaz camera bad and N8 camera very bad .. etc
Soon you will see 2011
flagship
mybe is not Anzu " Which between your hands "
[ This Message was edited by: back2you on 2010-11-18 12:06 ]
Posted by cableguy
Can everyone keep the comments just to Rumours (as its the name of thread) and not peoples opinions on other people.
Open another thread if you wish, Thanks
Posted by avmaxfan
Ok lets discuss about other phones too. Why is nobody excited about Android Walkman?
I am extremely excited and will get it the day its launched
What do u guys think ?
And not having a dedicated audio chip is not a concern to me anyways as SE phones have better audio quality than htc phones with audio chips (case in point desire/desire HD)
Posted by sunrise_
I'm curious about Android-Walkman too
What about dedicated music keys?
Posted by TheBecksF
for me
im only concern about high-end device .. if what elder sayed is true and there isnt any device worth to buy .. i will switch to samsung
i have no interest in any other device
[ This Message was edited by: TheBecksF on 2010-11-18 13:58 ]
Posted by avmaxfan
On 2010-11-18 14:47:05, sunrise_ wrote:
I'm curious about Android-Walkman too
What about dedicated music keys?
I'm guessing it will have a dedicated music key and ofcourse Mega Bass
Posted by domipost
Hmm, don't know bout the Android walkman. Actually I don't believe (yet
) that there is such a device on it's way.... Walkman phones have had their best time and I don't see them coming out of the low-end segment any time soon.
Funny by the way that everyone was bashing Eldar's tweets and now he did post here everyone believes him....
Posted by pauvincent
hmmm... I wonder is there a
conspiracy here? I'm just sayin..... 
what do you think avmax?[ This Message was edited by: pauvincent on 2010-11-18 14:17 ]
Posted by avmaxfan
On 2010-11-18 15:14:48, pauvincent wrote:
hmmm... I wonder is there a
conspiracy here? I'm just sayin..... what do you think avmax?
[ This Message was edited by: pauvincent on 2010-11-18 14:17 ]
What kind of a conspiracy
Posted by gauravsali
does android walkman really exists or its just topic for discussion to keep this thread moving on?
Posted by pauvincent
On 2010-11-18 15:23:02, avmaxfan wrote:
On 2010-11-18 15:14:48, pauvincent wrote:
hmmm... I wonder is there a
conspiracy here? I'm just sayin..... what do you think avmax?
What kind of a conspiracy
I dunno hiding of the
flagship may be? And the announcement date perhaps? keeping people who know silent?[ This Message was edited by: pauvincent on 2010-11-18 14:36 ]
Posted by FMW300
Honestly, the Android Walkman is the phone I am most excited about, cuz it's most likely the one that I would buy. I hope it has at least a 3.2" screen and a 5mp camera. Eldar, care to shed any light on it?
Posted by pauvincent
would it be possible for sony to allow the brand walkman cross with android?will their be issues between companies?
if not will sony set the parameters for a phone when they use the walkman or cybershot brand? I'm just asking why was satio not branded cybershot?was it because they use symbian OS? Or is it for the simple reason its not? [ This Message was edited by: pauvincent on 2010-11-18 14:49 ]
Posted by motvikt
They should do the same as microsoft (zune and xbox) and apple (ipod). Add brand names in the phone. Instead of mediascape, name it walkman. Instead of camera, name it cybershot. Add a gameservice called playstation with playstation store and so forth.
All that in a highend phone would be cool
Posted by xell
On 2010-11-18 14:56:10, avmaxfan wrote:
I'm guessing it will have a dedicated music key and ofcourse Mega Bass
Mega Bass is so 2007...
Posted by Phoner
And Equalizer...
Posted by bambarah
What are the chanese we have to see Flip phone from
look at the MOTOROLA A1680
Posted by io_bg
On 2010-11-18 17:50:05, bambarah wrote:
What are the chanese we have to see Flip phone from
look at the MOTOROLA A1680
I think
will continue releasing flip phones only on the Japanese market. Although I think having a low-mid end flip phone would be nice.
On 2010-11-18 14:40:38, avmaxfan wrote:
Ok lets discuss about other phones too. Why is nobody excited about Android Walkman?
I am extremely excited and will get it the day its launched
What do u guys think ?
And not having a dedicated audio chip is not a concern to me anyways as SE phones have better audio quality than htc phones with audio chips (case in point desire/desire HD)
I'd love to see a
touchscreen Walkman. Maybe with a 3.5" screen, equalizers, stereo speakers, 5 MP camera and Android? Or why not even put a better camera and make it an EU phone? (but with Walkman and Cyber-shot written on it's back)
Posted by mariozlp
On 2010-11-18 14:40:38, avmaxfan wrote:
Ok lets discuss about other phones too. Why is nobody excited about Android Walkman?
I am extremely excited and will get it the day its launched
What do u guys think ?
And not having a dedicated audio chip is not a concern to me anyways as SE phones have better audio quality than htc phones with audio chips (case in point desire/desire HD)
actually there's a walkman android you forget..... Yendo.
Posted by Lollylost100
Actually, you forgot that Yendo doesn't have Android and is ODM based
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Posted by mariozlp
whats odm based? sorry.
Posted by Phoner
Yendo only "looks" like android...
Posted by doministry
Me hopes they will still produce decent feature phones.... I always liked it.
As for Eldar, he may be right in many cases, but I doubt everything he says is golden. However, if this Anzu story is true, this is MASSACRE.
Don't they ever learn?! The same mistake again!!
Posted by Legen
maybe Anzu is Vivaz replacement?
Posted by NightBlade
...with Xperia branding and looks night identical to those of the X10? Doubt it.
Posted by domipost
On 2010-11-18 20:45:29, Legen wrote:
maybe Anzu is Vivaz replacement?
Highly unlikely. First it's Xperia and secondly it has totally nothing to do with it. Vivaz was small and cheap, this one is big and expensive