Posted by avmaxfan
On 2010-11-17 08:45:11, >500 wrote:
whats all the fuss with dual core processors? What could you possible need to do on your PHONE that needs this type of processing power?
Or are all you people complaining just worried about your image, and want the latest tech, even though you wont make full use of it... I think so.
may/may not offer dual core next yr, but seriously, as long as the software is written properly, and it runs efficiently, I dont really see the need for dual core. What, you doing advanced photoshop on your phone or something?
I had an x10, went to Galaxy S or a few months, now im back to an x10. One, it was cheaper, now and when I first bought it. And two, I prefer the x10 in terms of usability bla bla bla. The lag in the galaxy and touch wiz really peeved me off!
Even though the Galaxy (or any other device or that matter) has the better hardware, doesnt mean its a better phone does it? Especially if your not using it to its full potential. I much prefer a phone that runs as well as the hardware should allow it. The galaxy s, imho does not provide that. Even with a lag fix installed.
Full hd videos, full hd recording, what ever else comes with dual core, personal preference really, I have no NEED for it.
That's the irony of the tech world isn't it?
A lot of people have cars with 300+ horsepower and capable of doing 250 kmph +. How many of us really use the full power of our cars ? Same with PCs, we have people buying quad core processors and using it for web browsing and other light applications.
In the hardware world its not about what you actually need but what you MIGHT NEED. Its all about being better than the competition.
Nothing about actual requirement.
[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2010-11-17 07:51 ]
Posted by Toney_Ericsson
Whys everything new from Sony Ericsson so cheap looking
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/sonyericsson-x12-en.shtml
It even says it feels cheaper than the X10 - it certainly looks it.
Posted by Lollylost100
@avmaxfan
See, the difference between me and you is that I post up spec of existing phones. You dont have to believe me, you dont have to trust me, I dont care. If you think my specs are wrong, then you may do so.
[ This Message was edited by: Lollylost100 on 2010-11-17 07:53 ]
Posted by BrittBastard
On 2010-11-17 08:52:28, Lollylost100 wrote:
@avmaxfan
See, the difference between me and you is that I post up spec of existing phones. You dont have to believe me, you dont have to trust me, I dont care. If you think my specs are wrong, then you may do so.
[ This Message was edited by: Lollylost100 on 2010-11-17 07:53 ]
+1
Posted by nikos_se
so the device eldar is now reviewing,may have nothing to do with the final device...!!!!First of all,it doesn't run on the final software,the camera doesn't work properly and we know nothing about the price....It's obvious that sony ericsson will not target the high-end market with this device....because it hardly justifies the price....i believe that sony ericsson will release it with a price of less than 500euros
Posted by avmaxfan
On 2010-11-17 08:52:28, Lollylost100 wrote:
@avmaxfan
See, the difference between me and you is that I post up spec of existing phones. You dont have to believe me, you dont have to trust me, I dont care. If you think my specs are wrong, then you may do so.
[ This Message was edited by: Lollylost100 on 2010-11-17 07:53 ]
ahhh so SE changed the camera module from 12 mp to 8 mp?
Posted by Lollylost100
Well, according to your earlier spec they also changed OMAP4440 to MSM7230 and 1080p HD playback with HDMI to 720p playback with HDMI.
It is an 8mp module, get over it.
[ This Message was edited by: Lollylost100 on 2010-11-17 08:16 ]
Posted by avmaxfan
On 2010-11-17 09:15:19, Lollylost100 wrote:
Well, according to your earlier spec they also changed OMAP4440 to MSM7230 and 1080p HD playback with HDMI to 720p playback with HDMI.
It is an 8mp module, get over it.
[ This Message was edited by: Lollylost100 on 2010-11-17 08:16 ]
Well since so many people here now believe Eldar and Rog mentioned that whatever Eldar has said is correct, I just pointed out the difference in specs from what u mentioned and what Eldar has included in his preview.
And nope my specs were not for ANZU. So nope they did not change anything.
800 mhz CPU, 12 mp with 720p video recording and 4.3 inch LCD
http://www.engadget.com/2010/[....]viewed-aint-got-no-gingerbrea/
[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2010-11-17 08:51 ]
Posted by Legen
at this point am not focussed on the hardware from sonyericsson. we all knw the cn do awesome(the x10 wen it was announced). the question is if they gona hav gud software support. the x10 with its nice specs only gt android 2.1 nw. how sucky wuld it be to have a dual core phone running android 2.1 or 2.2 while the whole world is on 2.3 or 3.0
Posted by avmaxfan
On 2010-11-17 10:13:09, Legen wrote:
at this point am not focussed on the hardware from sonyericsson. we all knw the cn do awesome(the x10 wen it was announced). the question is if they gona hav gud software support. the x10 with its nice specs only gt android 2.1 nw. how sucky wuld it be to have a dual core phone running android 2.1 or 2.2 while the whole world is on 2.3 or 3.0
According to Eldar Anzu and other
Androids will be released with 2.2 Froyo and then 2.3 update will be released later.
Posted by Ricke77
I´m still waiting for Cliaro. I truly hope that Cliaro exists and will be announced soon.
Posted by MrCash
@Ricke77
lol , maybe that time Samsung will come with quad core processors
[ This Message was edited by: MrCash on 2010-11-17 09:40 ]
Posted by motvikt
Read about anzo on engadget. Another marketing success for SE..not
Posted by io_bg
So it seems Anzu is another failure for SE... It's specs are already outdated, and imagine what will it be when the Galaxy 2 and Desire 2 come out? Anzu might only have better camera / user interface, what
relies on the most
Posted by doministry
Eldar writes about "faultless" HTC phones....
Funny.
Posted by avmaxfan
On 2010-11-17 10:45:16, io_bg wrote:
So it seems Anzu is another failure for SE... It's specs are already outdated, and imagine what will it be when the Galaxy 2 and Desire 2 come out? Anzu might only have better camera / user interface, what
relies on the most
Better camera sure, but not UI - that would go to HTC
Posted by Ricke77
On 2010-11-17 10:32:05, MrCash wrote:
@Ricke77
lol , maybe that time Samsung will come with quad core processors
[ This Message was edited by: MrCash on 2010-11-17 09:40 ]
Well, with this pace I´m afraid you might be right!
Posted by motvikt
The only positive thing I see in this mess is the mid end specs. That indicates another flagship. When Bert was talking about the highest clock he sure as hell wasnt talking about 800.
And Eldar is so full of shit. Its amazing how SE can give him a not released phone for him to rip on, probably loosing a couple of millions worth of advertising. He does the same thing all the time?!
Posted by Ricke77
+1 for Motvikt!
Totally agree. Doesnt make sence at all. Hope that Cliaro is the shit for us!
Posted by avmaxfan
Ok guys now I can confidently say that Eldar has given out incorrect info and that the device he has is "very" different from the actual phone that will be released.
So cheer up and rest assured
will not come out with an outdated phone 
YAyyyyyyy
Oh and this info is not bullshit and comes from a REAL insider in every sense of the word
Hahahahaha seems like
has tried to make a fool out of Eldar [ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2010-11-17 10:08 ]
Posted by TheBecksF
@avmaxfan : do you mean that SE gave Elder a wronged Phone ?
please any body tell me something good
from what elder said i started consider leaving SE
im just waiten for officials
Posted by avmaxfan
On 2010-11-17 11:23:33, TheBecksF wrote:
@avmaxfan : do you mean that SE gave Elder a wronged Phone ?
please any body tell me something good
from what elder said i started consider leaving SE
im just waiten for officials
What Eldar has is the earliest prototype of ANZU. The specs of the phone he has and the specs of the phone currently under testing are different.
The phone Eldar has is of no relevance to anyone or anything right now
Hahaha poor Eldar
[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2010-11-17 10:27 ]
Posted by TheBecksF
avmaxfan : i hope thats true .. and i have to ask you are you sure ?
any way when that official anouncement will be ? cant wait
Posted by avmaxfan
On 2010-11-17 11:29:46, TheBecksF wrote:
avmaxfan : i hope thats true .. and i have to ask you are you sure ?
any way when that official anouncement will be ? cant wait
Yup its true
As for announcement I am not really sure but its not soon that's all I know
Jan some devices will be announced and some in Feb
Posted by io_bg
Avmaxfan, you don't know how much I want this to be true
Posted by Ricke77
On 2010-11-17 11:03:49, avmaxfan wrote:
Oh and this info is not bullshit and comes from a REAL insider in every sense of the word
Maybe your insider has any idea of when the announcement will be??
This month, next month or next year??
EDIT: Nevermind, saw your input now...
[ This Message was edited by: Ricke77 on 2010-11-17 10:36 ]
Posted by avmaxfan
On 2010-11-17 11:33:10, io_bg wrote:
Avmaxfan, you don't know how much I want this to be true
it IS true.
@Ricke
See my previous post
[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2010-11-17 10:36 ]
Posted by sambouka
Yeah yeah poor Eldar...
How can a company like Sony Ericsson allow such a "leak" to be made, considering the phone previewed is still in it's very early stage (hard & soft)?
"Leak" or shall I say "presentation" of the coming SE portfolio made to Eldar ?!
Anzu is killed, krushed and destroyed now by Eldar, and the info is spreading all over the web.
Great strategy by SE if done willingly.
Cheers
Posted by TheBecksF
avmaxfan : but the announcement was in dec and before it was in nov
i really hope that it will be in dec
SE past a year without big announcement .. do you think it will delayed more and more
we will live in hell for the next three months if the announcement will be in feb because of what elder sayed
still hope that it will be in late dec
Posted by Ricke77
DUAL CORE, DUAL CORE, DUAL CORE!!
1080p, 1080p, 1080p!!
Posted by io_bg
On 2010-11-17 11:46:06, Ricke77 wrote:
DUAL CORE, DUAL CORE, DUAL CORE!!
1080p, 1080p, 1080p!!
And OLED, OLED, OLED!
Posted by Platia1
lmao
Eldar proves he has an Anzu prototype, has pictures of it, reasonable explanations of how he got the specs, and somehow it is clear that he is incorrect?
I'm prepared to be wrong, but when the announcement comes, I wouldn't be surprised if the specs were very similar to what Eldar has specified
This beign said, I think lollylost has the best and most accurate specs sheet.
Also, there is a picture stating that Anzu is Sony Ericsson Mogami, or is Mogami simply a hardware platform that other SE phones are built from?
Out of curiosty, how much internal memory is Anzu meant to have?
I figure it will have the typical lowly SE amounts, such as the 1GB of the X10, but it would be nice if they put in some sizable internal memory for once.
Posted by MrCash
@avmaxfan
Somehow I believe you because I still dont know how human brain can reach this level of stupidity to do what
is doing ..
but why did
fooled Eldar ? why did they gave him old prototype ?? Eldar is giving negative impression about the phone and it seems like everybody believe him ? what is the benefits of what is doing?[ This Message was edited by: MrCash on 2010-11-17 12:29 ]
Posted by avmaxfan
On 2010-11-17 11:52:48, MrCash wrote:
@avmaxman
Somehow I believe you because I still dont know how human brain can reach this level of stupidity to do what
is doing ..
but why did
fooled Eldar ? why did they gave him old prototype ?? Eldar is giving negative impression about the phone and it seems like everybody believe him ? what is the benefits of what is doing?
HAha maybe
want people to not expect anything cutting edge from them in 2011 and then they surprise everyone with a cutting edge phone
Well seriously I do not know how Eldar got that device and if SE gave him the phone why they gave it to him. What I do know is the device he has and the final device have very little in common
Well actually there could be a benefit and that would be to avoid the actual phone from getting leaked and competitors not stepping up their game on
This way competitors will underestimate
and not do anything to gain a one up over thinking that the next flagship is well below their product
@Platia1
All those pictures, specs etc are of an ancient prototype nothing more
[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2010-11-17 11:02 ]
Posted by Mizzou
I have mixed feelings of all, I do not like
phone unveiled, is too cheap feel. Poor specification of today's time, I believe that the final version will be better and more beautiful, if not better to prefer staying with good old white "baby" SEX10 
@avmaxman
super.... an ancient prototype
Posted by Phoner
[ This Message was edited by: Phoner on 2010-11-17 11:14 ]
Posted by MrCash
yup i think now it make sense ..
maybe
was planing to release the phone with ( Eldar's specs ) in Q4 to Compete SGS and DHD ..
but they decided to change the specs so it can be
2011 Flagship .. and thats why they delayed the announcement ..
Posted by avmaxfan
On 2010-11-17 12:07:55, Phoner wrote:
Doesn't matter what he may be saying. The phone he has the very first prototype and that's the end of the story. No point arguing over it. Just wait till the official announcement and see for yourself.
Posted by rizzamarv
Thats the thing, as long as nothing has been announced it does not mean it will be released. Correct me if I am wrong, but eldar also had the rumoured P5i and riped it to threads before it was cancelled...
Not sure about this one, but since different leaks are suggesting different specs maybe this really is an early proto.
Also think SE cannot be so Brainfu@#$% to announce a phone which cannot on any level compete with a samsung or LG.
Am thinking there will be nothing announced until MWC which would actually be good, because there we should see the real flagship for 2011.
finally this thread is interesting again
Posted by dancingfate
I remember the day when X2 was rumored to be released with upgraded CPU than X1 but the proto (the photos that I leaked) and the final product is completely the same hardware wise.
I'm afraid this will be the case to X12 too.
Posted by nikos_se
It's difficult to predict a company's strategy,unless u know the whole year portfolio.....so let's all agree to something....in 2011 the samsung galaxy s,the htc desire/desire hd can continue selling well,because the have a more future-proof hardware...but what about x10???well x10 doesn't support multitouch,has lower ram ,so it can't contine selling well in 2011....so sony ericsson needs to quickly replace the x10......maybe it will be replaced by not one device,but two!!!!
the first one will have similar specs to it,but with newer OS/processor,more ram,better camera,bigger screen,and will be priced at around 550euros with a release date around March
and the second one will be released at a later date(JUNE-SEPT),with dual-core processors,1080p recording,etc....priced at 600-700eur
Also,between eldar and avmaxfan....i believe eldar more,whether we like it or not,the things he's saying tend to come true,for example remember vivaz????he was totally right,even for the price of the device....3 months before it was even announced,and 6 months before it was released!!!...The only thing i hope right now,is that sony ericsson wont bother with android 2.2 and will jump to 2.3 immediately...
Posted by pauvincent
like i said before lets wait for the announcement.i'm really really hoping that eldar is wrong if not i'll be very depress
[ This Message was edited by: pauvincent on 2010-11-17 12:00 ]
Posted by Mizzou
Cyber-shot S006 for Japan, camera phone with a 16.2 megapixel camera and successor
X10 only 12.1 megapixel camera???? eeee... I want the photobomb!!!! 
Posted by back2you
..!
bye bye eldar
Posted by MrCash
@back2you
what does that mean ?
[ This Message was edited by: MrCash on 2010-11-17 13:00 ]
Posted by anders260
Akane -> ?
Anzu -> X10 Upgrade
Hallon ->Guess this is the name, but X10 mini upgrade
Iyokan ->Guess this is the name, but X10 mini pro upgrade
Lychee ->Guess this is the name, but Vivaz upgrade
Mango ->Guess this is the name, but Vivaz pro upgrade
Mogami -> ?
Monika -> ?
Smultron -> ?
Zeus_256 -> PSP Phone
Y10 Zeus -> PSP Phone
Posted by tranced
If you read carefully it says "CPUZ". System Z again? Wasn't the PSP Phone showing the System Z?
Posted by back2you
On 2010-11-17 14:00:01, MrCash wrote:
@back2you
what does that mean ?
[ This Message was edited by: MrCash on 2010-11-17 13:00 ]
mybe this hardware for Mogami not for Anzu
Posted by pavlov's_dog
So, is this "Mogami" this year's Vivaz (The imaging solution I mean)?
Posted by avmaxfan
On 2010-11-17 14:09:32, tranced wrote:
If you read carefully it says "CPUZ". System Z again? Wasn't the PSP Phone showing the System Z?
No that's an app to get CPU information