Posted by Lollylost100
Anzu specs:
-8.1 MP AF with Exmor R (16x Digital Zoom, HD Video recording (720p/30fps) w stereo audio recording support, Pulsed LED, Face Recognition & Tracking in video recording)
-Built-in 3.5mm (w/ adaptor)
-Noise Suppression
-4.2” FWVGA (854x480) Capacitive display (X.LED multi-touch display, Capacitive multi-touch, 16 Million display color)
-WiFi 802.11 b/g/n
-HDMI (type D)
-Compass
-Size (125.0 x 62.5 x 8.7-10.9 mm)
-Battery: 1500 mA
-OS: Android Gingerbread
Source, my own post: forum.fanklub.se
Posted by motvikt
On 2010-11-16 14:11:06, Lollylost100 wrote:
Anzu specs:
-8.1 MP AF with Exmor R (16x Digital Zoom, HD Video recording (720p/30fps) w stereo audio recording support, Pulsed LED, Face Recognition & Tracking in video recording)
-Built-in 3.5mm (w/ adaptor)
-Noise Suppression
-4.2” FWVGA (854x480) Capacitive display (X.LED multi-touch display, Capacitive multi-touch, 16 Million display color)
-WiFi 802.11 b/g/n
-HDMI (type D)
-Compass
-Size (125.0 x 62.5 x 8.7-10.9 mm)
-Battery: 1500 mA
-OS: Android Gingerbread
Source, my own post: forum.fanklub.se
Looks pretty good
Wtf is that? sounds cool
Posted by Hiron
I'll keep my x10 for a while
Anzu is nice, though. We can see clear improvement in camera module, screen quality, screen size, multitouch, 16m color, slimmer looks, gpu processing, battery consumption, hdmi and android versions.
If I didn't had x10, this will be my next phone. I wonder about gyroscope (like iphone4) capability?
[ This Message was edited by: Hiron on 2010-11-16 13:31 ]
Posted by cableguy
Any idea on when the offical announcement for the Anzu might be?
I like the 1500 ma battery.
Posted by MrCash
@Lollylost100
what about the processor ? gyro ? Gpu ?
[ This Message was edited by: MrCash on 2010-11-16 13:41 ]
Posted by Lollylost100
CPU will be MSM7230, as said before.
Posted by tyko
Lollylost, what is pulsed LED? Just regular led flash instead of photo light al'a x10?
Posted by juris15
what is X.LED display?
the name is cool
is it something like sony/sony ericsson's own amoled technology?
Posted by Lollylost100
I guess it is something to do with the XEL-1 OLED Sony TVs.
[ This Message was edited by: Lollylost100 on 2010-11-16 14:05 ]
Posted by cableguy
Maybe SE will call the Anzu, Bravia ? so its seperate from the Xperia line
Posted by Lollylost100
No, it is definitely XPERIA series.
Posted by cableguy
So from the upcoming SE phones:-
Akane
Anzu
Hallon
Iyokan
Lychee
Mango
Mogami
Monika
Smultron
Zeus_256
Y10 Zeus
--> The Anzu, the X10 mini and X10 mini pro updates will be the only Xperia phones?
Posted by doministry
@Lolly
What about WP7 ........
Posted by Lollylost100
@cableguy and doministry
I have no idea.
Posted by cableguy
Just thinking, its like SE are just tweaking most of the phones from last year besides the Zeus/PSP phone.
Akane -> ?
Anzu -> X10 Upgrade
Hallon ->Guess this is the name, but X10 mini upgrade
Iyokan ->Guess this is the name, but X10 mini pro upgrade
Lychee ->Guess this is the name, but Vivaz upgrade
Mango ->Guess this is the name, but Vivaz pro upgrade
Mogami -> ?
Monika -> ?
Smultron -> ?
Zeus_256 -> PSP Phone
Y10 Zeus -> PSP Phone
Posted by Ricke77
But what happened with "Cliaro"?? Doesnt exist or what??
Posted by ^^HAMID^^
MSM7230 processor?
so we missed the 1080 recording .... ha?
Posted by Lollylost100
1080p was made up by XPERIAX10 blog, then spread by avmaxfan who further suggested the Anzu has OMAP 4440 and that it was confirmed by his "secret sources".
Simple: Anzu doesn't have 1080p.
Posted by MrCash
I dont care about 1080p , thickness , HDMI , But we really want that dual core processor !!
Posted by nikos_se
what about the price of sony ericsson anzu and release date??
I believe that if it launches before march 2011 and with a price lower than 550eur,it can be successfull because it solves all the problems the x10 has(multitouch,outdated OS,small ram) plus it offers a better processor,bigger and better screen,hdmi-out and better speced camera...so overall good specs,it will all depend on the pricing of the device!
Posted by zub
On 2010-11-16 05:28:46, avmaxfan wrote:
And yea to the gurus - I hope you know that Android or rather smartphones in General is all about the high end. The flagship Android phones are the ones which sell the most and make money for the companies. Eg Droid, Droid X, Desire, Galaxy S , X10 to name a few.
We have almost NO medium/low range Android "star" seller.
So why would SE focus on mid/low range again?
i dont agree with this at all. low-mid range phones do sell very well to the masses. high end phones only sell well to the rich and people in the tech know how. IPhone is an anomaly in this pattern, idiots buy it thinking its the best thing in the world, and because a monkey could use it. there is so much diversity in android phone market that the general non tech minded masses will definitely be buying low-mid end phones. about 70% of my friends who have android phones have a low-mid range phone, they think its the best thing in the world, because they dont understand the technical specs behind it and why my galaxy S is far superior to their HTC wildfire, they just see a "cool android phone".
also the fact that
seem to be bringing out so many "new" low-mid range phones would prove that they do indeed sell and make profit. Ofcourse i'm not writing off that wont have a real flagship phone hiding away, but to this date have we really seen any proof of any?
EDIT: and case in point: http://www.engadget.com/2010/[....]ts-fastest-selling-phone-ever/
really gonna say low-mid range phones dont sell?? come on man. Anzu is a good update, but it can only be considered "flagship" if it comes out last week, not 4-6 months down the line, then it'll just be a mid-end phone.
[ This Message was edited by: zub on 2010-11-16 20:10 ]
Posted by tyko
Agree with nikos, I could see myself buying an anzu if the price is right. The specs are good, except dual core it has most of the goodies. Still wondering what a pulse LED is. Any ideas?
Posted by Lollylost100
Most likely just the same thing as the LED used in X10.
I see myself buying one, because it has everything I missed in X10.
Posted by synn
Synn, you crack me up!
You know me Ron, I always aim to please.
Posted by Phoner
From M-R forum:
[ This Message was edited by: Phoner on 2010-11-16 22:05 ]
Posted by rss_ndrsn
I think Anzu will not be that a huge success. The specs are not really that special and more fit for a 2010 high-end phone; it is more like what X10 should have been. SE needs a phone like what avmax has said. The dual-core powered smartphones are the ones that will dominate the market, that's for sure.
Is Anzu really the device that avmax is talking about? Was not there a rumour about an X10 refresh that would be release to the market at earlier time? Then, there's another very-high spec'ed phone that would come later next year.
About the the mid-end best seller, the reason why that LG android phone sells well is that there is not any other offering from LG. You know that LG is big in Korea. But then again, expect more companies to make Android powered smartphones making it hard for a single of them to dominate the Android segment.
With the iPhone 4, its success should be an inspiration to other manufacturers. It embodies what a complete premium device is. It does not promises to replace your camera or computer or become an internet hub. It is what it is. How can I tell? I have one and I am proud to say that it is the best phone at the moment. I have tried other Android phones such as SGS, X10, HTC Desire and Motorola Droid. But none of them are as good as the iPhone 4 especially in the multi-touch aspect. Plus, I can't help but notice how pixelated screen of those phones. Well I guess I have just gotten used to the retina display. And I must say that it is much safer to buy applications on Appstore knowing that it has been reviewed by Apple before the start of distribution. Yeah SGS may have better hardware but are there any apps that take advantage of it. I have tried playing the Need for Speed on SGS but the graphics is not as good as on iPhone 4. To sum it up, iPhone 4 is best overall smartphones in the market now.
Posted by zub
oh yh well my SGS can play psx games
so neh
im just waiting for the PSPhone.
Posted by smclion102
ANZU SPECS are good.. If sony ericsson launch's this phone by december and price it cheaper then this will sell well ..€650 is very expensive..
A true X10 successor/Dual core phone will mostly be announced at the "MOBILE WORLD CONGRESS" 2011..
Like when Satio and X1 was announced?
Posted by Ricky D
I think it is quite obvious that the Anzu character is a refresh of the X10 not a next generation successor, as I said before. No massive upgrade. Not really 2011 specs. It sounds pretty much idential to the Desire HD which the USA has had in some form from not long after the X10 hit the world. If I hadn't boght my X10 in April and this was out before Christmas I may consider it but I think for current X10 owners (myself being one) it shouldn't really be an avenue to explore, but rather wait for a few extra months and see what next gen devices
hasn't leaked yet.
I still have faith that avmax isn't a complete liar but rather speaking of a device not on the list lollylost knows of or among the devices eldar saw. I firmly believe Bert has made sure the 'crap' devices for next year are leaked so we are surprised when we see the big boy(s) pop-up, possibly later.
I'm sure no-one here believes
would not even try to keep up with competition next year. That would be business suicide. I'm not saying that solely killer handsets will make them the number 1 android manufacturer, of course portfolio diversity matters too, but to completely neglect the breaking tech end and flood the mid range and low end is what led to the dark years of late 2008 and 2009.
Posted by Shino03
I hope you're right.
Posted by pauvincent
On 2010-11-17 03:09:32, Ricky D wrote:
I think it is quite obvious that the Anzu character is a refresh of the X10 not a next generation successor, as I said before. No massive upgrade. Not really 2011 specs. It sounds pretty much idential to the Desire HD which the USA has had in some form from not long after the X10 hit the world. If I hadn't boght my X10 in April and this was out before Christmas I may consider it but I think for current X10 owners (myself being one) it shouldn't really be an avenue to explore, but rather wait for a few extra months and see what next gen devices
hasn't leaked yet.
I still have faith that avmax isn't a complete liar but rather speaking of a device not on the list lollylost knows of or among the devices eldar saw. I firmly believe Bert has made sure the 'crap' devices for next year are leaked so we are surprised when we see the big boy(s) pop-up, possibly later.
I'm sure no-one here believes
would not even try to keep up with competition next year. That would be business suicide. I'm not saying that solely killer handsets will make them the number 1 android manufacturer, of course portfolio diversity matters too, but to completely neglect the breaking tech end and flood the mid range and low end is what led to the dark years of late 2008 and 2009.
+1
lets wait and see. Damn when will annonce its soooooo long
Posted by rizzamarv
FYI
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/sonyericsson-x12-en.shtml
hmmm....
Posted by smclion102
First look. Sony Ericsson Anzu - X12
Sony Ericsson Anzu.
[ This Message was edited by: smclion102 on 2010-11-17 04:46 ]
Posted by avmaxfan
Hmmmm
@Lollylost
Seems your specs don't completely match with what Eldar mentioned ?
12mp cam as against 8mp u mentioned
LCD screen as against X LED
800mhz CPU against 1 ghz
Oh and in these pics its clear the screen is NOT LED thanks to the greyish blacks.
[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2010-11-17 05:46 ]
Posted by Shino03
So sad indeed.. It would have been better if anzu was a phone to compete with the likes of Lg optimus One.
With this lame strategy, SE will never be the top android manufacturer.
Posted by Legen
am sad. afta reading that article its looking like another year am nt gona be using a sonyericsson. hope he's wrong and they do release something mind blowing Q1.
Posted by avmaxfan
Eldar too seems to agree that anzu is more a middle range phone than top end
"device that could easily have been a decent middle range solution (much like Desire Z is for HTC) is thrown into the market to be eaten at the top end and take down the company with it.
Posted by se_dude
I really dont think that SE are this dumb. Remeber the X1, it came into light only seconds before the announcement. A company whose flagships have more or less trumped or been at par with other flagships, i dont think would cater this way.
The Satio, the X10 all had cutting edge hardware and were a force to deal with.
Posted by rizzamarv
On 2010-11-17 07:22:47, se_dude wrote:
I really dont think that SE are this dumb. Remeber the X1, it came into light only seconds before the announcement. A company whose flagships have more or less trumped or been at par with other flagships, i dont think would cater this way.
The Satio, the X10 all had cutting edge hardware and were a force to deal with.
Am also thinking along these lines... maybe they would not have announced x10 so early if it hadnt leaked. maybe they do have something to announce at MWC which is planned for 2nd half 2011... Agree a lot of maybes, am holding on to a very thin straw but you never know
Posted by ^^HAMID^^
considering Anzu as a mid range phone , is a good sign for being a high-end phone under construction \\...
Q: is Anzu's cpu the same as Desire z ones?
Posted by avmaxfan
On 2010-11-17 07:35:41, ^^HAMID^^ wrote:
considering Anzu as a mid range phone , is a good sign for being a high-end phone under construction \...
Q: is Anzu's cpu the same as Desire z ones?
Yup exactly the same CPU
MSM7230 800mhz[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2010-11-17 06:49 ]
Posted by ^^HAMID^^
so as we can see here the phone can be OCed up to 1420 !
but if SE let hackers do their work....
Posted by BrittBastard
On 2010-11-17 07:42:10, avmaxfan wrote:
On 2010-11-17 07:35:41, ^^HAMID^^ wrote:
considering Anzu as a mid range phone , is a good sign for being a high-end phone under construction ...
Q: is Anzu's cpu the same as Desire z ones?
Yup exactly the same CPU
MSM7230 800mhz
[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2010-11-17 06:49 ]
So, avmaxfan, what about "your phone", when is it going to be announced?
I think your credibility is quite low right now.
Or can you now admit that you were totally wrong?
[ This Message was edited by: BrittBastard on 2010-11-17 07:01 ]
Posted by CELL-P
I am relieved because Anzu has a 12 MP camera. Because of that, I still have hope that they will use the new 16.4 camera module in their highend phone.
Posted by avmaxfan
On 2010-11-17 07:55:07, ^^HAMID^^ wrote:
so as we can see here the phone can be OCed up to 1420 !
but if SE let hackers do their work....
A. Its not safe to overclock a phone CPU
B. Even when overclocked to 1.4 ghz it will still be left in the dust by next gen dual cores and beaten easily by even the single core Samsung hummingbird processor
@BrittBastard
I still stand by the specs I mentioned for the next SE flagship. CLIARO will have those specs I mentioned. Not ANZU.
Anzu is NOT the supposed device I was talking about as is clear now.
So wait till
official announcement before judging my or others credibility.
@Topic
How many think
will have a 2011 flagship with specs that do not match up to the top phones TODAY. Has same CPU as HTC Desire Z (800mhz), LCD screen same as X10 but with multi touch and 16 million colors, same design with some minor tweaks ?[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2010-11-17 07:20 ]
Posted by BrittBastard
On 2010-11-17 08:09:34, avmaxfan wrote:
On 2010-11-17 07:55:07, ^^HAMID^^ wrote:
so as we can see here the phone can be OCed up to 1420 !
but if SE let hackers do their work....
A. Its not safe to overclock a phone CPU
B. Even when overclocked to 1.4 ghz it will still be left in the dust by next gen dual cores and beaten easily by even the single core Samsung hummingbird processor
@BrittBastard
I still stand by the specs I mentioned for the next SE flagship. CLIARO will have those specs I mentioned. Not ANZU.
Anzu is NOT the supposed device I was talking about as is clear now.
So wait till
official announcement before judging my or others credibility.
[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2010-11-17 07:14 ]
Fine, but you also said that it would be announced in november and now december?
A release for an eventual Cliaro would not be before Q3-Q4 2011 and then it's to late for SE's flagship. In my opinion.
Posted by avmaxfan
Fine, but you also said that it would be announced in november and now december?
A release for an eventual Cliaro would not be before Q3-Q4 2011 and then it's to late for SE's flagship. In my opinion.
My friend announcements/launch like anything else in this world can be delayed for some reason.
At the time I received the info on Cliaro it was planned for a November second week announcement. Now obviously it was not announced. So yup announcement is delayed.
And the 2011 flagship will be "launched" not announced before Q3 2011
[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2010-11-17 07:29 ]
Posted by Lollylost100
On 2010-11-17 06:05:53, avmaxfan wrote:
Hmmmm
@Lollylost
Seems your specs don't completely match with what Eldar mentioned ?
12mp cam as against 8mp u mentioned
LCD screen as against X LED
800mhz CPU against 1 ghz
Oh and in these pics its clear the screen is NOT LED thanks to the greyish blacks.
[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2010-11-17 05:46 ]
I said it was MSM7230 most likely at 1GHz since that is the max speed manufacturers can clock it to. Maybe if you read what Eldar wrote, you would notice that his camera isnt working properly but it is an 8mpx sensor. The screen spec I posted are also correct. The whole specs I posted are correct.
[ This Message was edited by: Lollylost100 on 2010-11-17 07:40 ]
Posted by avmaxfan
On 2010-11-17 08:38:27, Lollylost100 wrote:
On 2010-11-17 06:05:53, avmaxfan wrote:
Hmmmm
@Lollylost
Seems your specs don't completely match with what Eldar mentioned ?
12mp cam as against 8mp u mentioned
LCD screen as against X LED
800mhz CPU against 1 ghz
Oh and in these pics its clear the screen is NOT LED thanks to the greyish blacks.
I said it was MSM7230 most likely at 1GHz since that is the max speed manufacturers can clock it to. Maybe if you read what Eldar wrote, you would notice that his camera isnt working properly but it is an 8mpx sensor. The screen spec I posted are also correct. The whole specs I posted are correct.
[ This Message was edited by: Lollylost100 on 2010-11-17 07:40 ]
Then why does Eldar mention it is a normal LCD ? And we can clearly make out in the pics that it is NOT OLED. It has greyish blacks like any other normal TFT LCD.
And what has the camera not working anything to do with an 8mp camera ?
gave him the phone and told him everything about the phone and 6 other phones for 2011, why will he be misinformed about what camera it has? [ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2010-11-17 07:46 ]
Posted by >500
whats all the fuss with dual core processors? What could you possible need to do on your PHONE that needs this type of processing power?
Or are all you people complaining just worried about your image, and want the latest tech, even though you wont make full use of it... I think so.
may/may not offer dual core next yr, but seriously, as long as the software is written properly, and it runs efficiently, I dont really see the need for dual core. What, you doing advanced photoshop on your phone or something?
I had an x10, went to Galaxy S or a few months, now im back to an x10. One, it was cheaper, now and when I first bought it. And two, I prefer the x10 in terms of usability bla bla bla. The lag in the galaxy and touch wiz really peeved me off!
Even though the Galaxy (or any other device or that matter) has the better hardware, doesnt mean its a better phone does it? Especially if your not using it to its full potential. I much prefer a phone that runs as well as the hardware should allow it. The galaxy s, imho does not provide that. Even with a lag fix installed.
Full hd videos, full hd recording, what ever else comes with dual core, personal preference really, I have no NEED for it.