Posted by shepy
I think X12 is the flagship, but I think Anzu isnīt X12.
What about Cliaro? And no Iīm not an Insider!
Posted by ^^HAMID^^
now Eldar is sitting there,reading our posts,and laughing at our reactions
be calm men... the news that Anzu is not a flagship is a good one... so there must be a bigger phone instead...
for example New K750
Posted by MakeBelieve.
but Eldar said that ANZU is X12
IMHO:
1) ANZU/X12 is NOT a flagship phone, it`s matched with lollylost100 specs ( same as PSPhone, Snapdragon QSD8255, etc...)
2) there is a flagship phone which is matched with avmax specs (probably they renamed it to X16 because it has 16MP camera)
Question: when can we see that one? after i9100s grate success, or in Q1 2012?
Posted by shepy
@ the insiders/rog
when can we exept the X16?
[ This Message was edited by: shepy on 2010-11-14 19:48 ]
Posted by motvikt
There has been some loose talk about a phone with u8500 in a Swedish forum, which would qualify in the "superphone" category. But thats not in Q1.
Posted by zub
Q1 2011 - PSPhone release
Q2-Q3 2011 - New
flagship release.
there is no successor to X10, they are making a whole new line of phones. there is no X12/14/16.
Posted by io_bg
@zub
Huh? What about the Anzu then? Is it part of that whole new line?
[ This Message was edited by: io_bg on 2010-11-14 20:37 ]
Posted by tyko
Maybe google is to blame for this. SE and others have perhaps been told that dual cores is possible for honeycomb not gingerbread. Hence, SE have planned phones accordingly which mean top of the line hardware only after android 3.0. Given the one year timeframe of X10 release they have to prepare some sort of upgrade which would be anzu. Now suddenly according to phonearena, samsung and google have changed the terms and will make android 2.3 optimized for dual cores sort of back stabbing other manufacters.
Posted by zub
@ io_bg
yes i believe so.
Posted by smclion102
@Tyko
Agree with you Google is back stabbing
us..
The only reason gingerbread is late cause nexus S is late and its due to hardware issue.. So its obvious google is upgrading to dual core..
________
I dont understand whats the point launching a phone which will get outdated within a year or wont be stable for honeycomb??
Atleast X10 is better for 2 software update's(2.1,2.2*)
Sony ericsson should act quicker and do something abt this they still got time.. Atleast X12 should work fine for 2years..
[ This Message was edited by: smclion102 on 2010-11-15 02:29 ]
Posted by synn
or wont be stable for honeycome??
Do you even read what you type before you post?
Gawd, you spec-sheet warriors are so awful, it's not even funny anymore.
Posted by Ricky D
From what I see this same spec as X10 handset (whether or not it is actually anzu or X12 or 'yo mama' or whatever) seems like the sort of incremental re-release that we saw for other great selling hero phones from
in the past, such as K800->K810, W800->W810 etc. It's a way to extend the life of an older handset without much extra development or cost. These re-releases aren't ever the flagship but more a bridge until the flagship arrives and as a toe in on the mid-range when the high-end becomes mid-range and technology advances. I'm not too disturbed by hearing no multi-core, only .3 inch screen improvement, no increase in OS as all that means is that there's a better phone coming.
Posted by Phoner
Short summary from today's MR article on SE 2011 phones by Eldar:
*Anzo/Kraken (Likely to be called X12) will come as a successor to X10
*Anzo is very slim and it is likely to be its main advantage
*Anzo hardware: 4.3", 8 Mpix and MSM7230 chipset, 1 processor
*Today it works on 2.1 but it is going to be updated to 2.3 in March 2011
*Price around EUR 650
*It is the new SE flagship phone
[ This Message was edited by: Phoner on 2010-11-15 10:32 ]
Posted by WhiteEye
On 2010-11-14 21:12:11, zub wrote:
there is no successor to X10, they are making a whole new line of phones. there is no X12/14/16.
new nomenclature, perhaps?
Posted by pauvincent
looks like i'll be stuck with my satio for awhile
hope a kickass phone won't come no later than q3 2011 
Posted by smclion102
650 euro.. WTF very very very expensive for a phone with just .3mm extra and no other improvement's..
Seem's like am stuck with my old phone again..
Posted by Phoner
Continued
*in the first half 2011 SE phones we will see "new" functions like equalizer and some applications from A200
*there will be two WP7 phones, but they will be more interesting to the US market (will appear arround the end of Q1 2011) with no real advantages compared to their competitors
*Vivaz and Vivaz Pro successors on android look very similar to Vivaz and Vivaz Pro and are a bit bigger in size (price could be EUR 270 and EUR 320)
*Next X10 mini and X10 mini Pro will have a bit better hardware and larger screens making them more convenient for daily use
*PSP phone will be available only in some markets and its future in not quite clear
[ This Message was edited by: Phoner on 2010-11-15 11:08 ]
Posted by Hiron
I also will stick with my x10 and my mini for a while, at least until that dual-core stuff appears
seems like se had fall in love with quallcom msm chipset. They used it in entire xperia android line.. last se phone with omap is satio and vivaz.. (maybe they had optimized their android kernel with msm?)
[ This Message was edited by: Hiron on 2010-11-15 11:21 ]
Posted by WhiteEye
Spillikins number 93. RUSSIAN TRANSLATED
Posted by Lollylost100
I guess I can hand out more info now:
S1_MSM7X30 Akane
S1_MSM7X30 Anzu
S1_MSM7X30 Hallon
S1_MSM7X30 Iyokan
S1_MSM7X30 Lychee
S1_MSM7X30 Mango
S1_MSM7X30 Mogami
S1_QSD8250 Monika
S1_MSM7X30 Smultron
S1_MSM7X30 Zeus_256
S1_MSM7X30 Y10 Zeus
[ This Message was edited by: Lollylost100 on 2010-11-15 12:38 ]
Posted by MakeBelieve.
where is DUAL CORE OMAP4/U8500 (or whatever)???
Posted by Lollylost100
There isn't one.
Posted by MakeBelieve.
so 2010 specs for 2011 phones
what are they thinking
is that a whole 2011 list or just Q1/2?
cant believe that they have NOTHING to compete
Posted by se_dude
So the X10 successor has the same hardware as the X10 mini successor.Yeah. Kudos SE.
Posted by Lollylost100
Where does it say this?
It says X10 mini/mini pro successor will have better HW and bigger screens than the X10 mini/mini pro that is out now, not than X10.
Posted by mustafabay
If the X10minis successor is on par with the Desire Z but in a smaller package I can't see what would be wrong with that. 2.8"-3.1" screen should do nicely hopefully without the package getting much bigger if bigger at all.
Posted by se_dude
@lollylost- If anzu is the x10 successor and there are about 10 phones with the same processor i am assuming they include the minis as well. But I am sure there is another phone in the works. Maximys confirmed the use of an OMAP44xx in one of SEs upcoming phones and am going by what he said. Its extremely unlikely that SE are going to release almost the same handset to the consumers without even upgrading the cam.
Posted by se_dude
well here it is
Not very likely is it, with psp neXt gen coming . The 2 divisions operates quite independently. However, an android device (running a 'high end' branch of android ) is currently in internal testing, based on TI's OMAP4400 series, and paired with LPDDR2 I believe, since the performance put that of samsung's i9000 to shame. I don't know if this is the *supposed* psp phone, but it does have an unusually wide aspect ratio screen (864*480) which could suggest a gaming 'portal' is coming to select future se devices.
http://forum.xda-developers.c[....]ost.php?p=7651250&postcount=12
Posted by doministry
I'm really curious how these WP7
devices will appear.
Posted by Lollylost100
I don't think I will believe a person with the nickname SEMC and 6 posts.
Posted by se_dude
He is maximys.
Posted by MakeBelieve.
thats old news
Posted by Lollylost100
@se_dude
As others have suggested
K800 -> K810i (same hardware, different case)
W800i > W810i (no joystick, different screen, different case)
I'm sure many people are happy with their X10s and don't want a huge jump from X10 to Anzu.
Posted by pauvincent
please just one kickass
phone for xmas ppppleeeaaase but from the looks of it their isn't any[ This Message was edited by: pauvincent on 2010-11-15 14:21 ]
Posted by Hiron
that's H1 2010 phone from SE, not H2. more to come
and in fact, msm7x30 is an advancement over qsd8250+adreno200 in x10 and msm7227+adreno200 in x10 mini
clocked at 800mhz - 1ghz with the new 45nm die size (x10 and x10 mini is an old 65nm), it had lower battery consumption and 5x faster gpu (adreno 205 vs adreno 200)
The best thing is that msm solution from quallcom is cheaper than qsd.. dual-core from quallcom had been sampled to manufacturer not too long ago and insanely high priced..
[ This Message was edited by: Hiron on 2010-11-15 17:30 ]
Posted by Lollylost100
MSM7230/MSM7630 can be clocked by the manufacturers from 800MHz-1GHz
.[ This Message was edited by: Lollylost100 on 2010-11-15 14:28 ]
Posted by Hiron
yes I just read that. thanks for clarifying
you can see the examples in x10 vs x10 mini. although x10 scored more in cpu test, they had the same score in gpu. then x10 mini resolution makes it had much smoother animations and touch response.. now imagine it with adreno205.. x10 mini smoothness in x10...
[ This Message was edited by: Hiron on 2010-11-15 14:35 ]
Posted by Enci1983
X7 and X7 mini spotted. The two WP7 phones. X7 will have a 1.2 MGhz snapdragon processor, 8.1 mp camera, HD video recording on 720p, and a 4,3 '' 480x840 wvga screen, with HDMI output. X7 mini has 1 MGhz snapi processor a 10.1 mp camera with xenon and 3x optical zoom. A 3,5'' 480x800 wvga screen and of course HD video recording rumours say
Posted by pauvincent
On 2010-11-15 15:37:57, Enci1983 wrote:
X7 and X7 mini spotted. The two WP7 phones. X7 will have a 1.2 MGhz snapdragon processor, 8.1 mp camera, HD video recording on 720p, and a 4,3 '' 480x840 wvga screen, with HDMI output. X7 mini has 1 MGhz snapi processor a 10.1 mp camera with xenon and 3x optical zoom. A 3,5'' 480x800 wvga screen and of course HD video recording rumours say
old news
Posted by se_dude
@lollylost-Still doesnt make sense as to why SE is using the same processor on so many phones. By flagship it means that it shall have features that shall trump its portfolio and shall remain that way throughout the year, if possible. Here, X10 doesnt have a true successor.
Posted by doministry
On 2010-11-15 16:08:55, se_dude wrote:
@lollylost-Still doesnt make sense as to why SE is using the same processor on so many phones. By flagship it means that it shall have features that shall trump its portfolio and shall remain that way throughout the year, if possible. Here, X10 doesnt have a true successor.
True, the same mistake which was made with X1/X2.
Posted by cableguy
Its a quick way to get the same platform for multiple phones.
They can just increase the clock speed for the higher spec phones and reduce it for the lower spec ones, it will save on the testing time it takes to test each phone, as they wont have to test each phone platform individually.
Posted by Enci1983
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Posted by Lollylost100
Not only old news, it's fake too.
Posted by pauvincent
On 2010-11-15 16:37:00, Enci1983 wrote:
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to me its old news more than 24 hrs
Posted by dancingfate
@Enci1983
"Posted: 2010-11-14 05:27", 6 pages before this.
Posted by pauvincent
moving along any announcements for
yet? any official words?[ This Message was edited by: pauvincent on 2010-11-15 15:51 ]
Posted by Ricke77
Old swedish saying: The one who awaits something good, never waits to long.
Maybe
got it written all over the walls in their factorys! 
Posted by se_dude
someone please tell me if the Anzu is X10s successor for 2011. Thats all i want to know.
[ This Message was edited by: se_dude on 2010-11-15 16:31 ]
Posted by MakeBelieve.
sooooooooo....... avmax, where is your super-speced-phone?
i cant understand one thing. why three different people are mentioning OMAP4 to be inserted in 2011 SE phones?
i just cant believe that Berts surprise was just 2010 speced X12
All hopes for Q3/4 again
[ This Message was edited by: MakeBelieve. on 2010-11-15 17:23 ]