Posted by motvikt
On 2010-11-13 23:35:20, rog wrote:
On 2010-11-13 22:08:04, lxAMNxl wrote:
SEfreakFan: @eldarmurtazin So is it true that X12 has a 16.4 mp camera ?
Eldar: @SEfreakFan false. 8 mpx
So there goes the 12mp and 16.4mp rumor
Get out of here...
Sorry... but since we are talking about rumors (and someone asked about it earlier): there won't be a dual core CPU either.
Posted by pauvincent
hope announcement day would come so we would know what is real and what is not
Posted by smclion102
X7 mini seems to be fake..
Avmaxfan told win7 will have 1.2ghz ..
So you never know what Sony ericsson wants to try..
X7-high range?
X7mini- mid range?
Posted by smclion102
15/Oct/09- X10 leaked
30/oct/09- X10 teaser video
3/nov/09 - X10 was announced..
¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤
9/nov/10 - X12 was leaked..
So SE should announce any time after Gingerbread
Or next week or end of this month..
Fingers crossed Hope BERT shows us lots of SURPRISE'S
Posted by pauvincent
On 2010-11-14 05:18:59, smclion102 wrote:
15/Oct/09- X10 leaked
30/oct/09- X10 teaser video
3/nov/09 - X10 was announced..
¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤
9/nov/10 - X12 was leaked..
So SE should announce any time after Gingerbread
Or next week or end of this month..
Fingers crossed Hope BERT shows us lots of SURPRISE'S
I hope we will be surprised in a good way
Posted by se_dude
Without a dual core procyy SE will lag behind their competitors again.
Posted by avmaxfan
On 2010-11-14 05:52:30, se_dude wrote:
Without a dual core procyy SE will lag behind their competitors again.
Now who or what made u to think
will use single core processors next year when the whole industry is moving to dual core ? 
On topic:
That X7 slide looks so amateurish like the Samsung Galaxy S 2 slide. It seems like a fake to me. In any case the specs are lifted from what I mentioned and various other blogs. And I'm afraid Sony does not have any 10 mp camera module.
[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2010-11-14 05:03 ]
Posted by smclion102
yaa video looks fake
but X7 spec looks real
@avmaxfan
u saying there is no Optical Zoom Camera with
/sony ??
Posted by mediar
On 2010-11-14 05:18:59, smclion102 wrote:
15/Oct/09- X10 leaked
30/oct/09- X10 teaser video
3/nov/09 - X10 was announced..
¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤
9/nov/10 - X12 was leaked..
So SE should announce any time after Gingerbread
Or next week or end of this month..
Fingers crossed Hope BERT shows us lots of SURPRISE'S
You're wrong - X10 leaked as Rachael on 4 July 2009. Check out the previous topic.
[ This Message was edited by: mediar on 2010-11-14 07:13 ]
Posted by smclion102
^^^^^
Oh ya it was leaked very early..
Posted by pauvincent
does anyone have news on announcement date for
?
Posted by Lollylost100
We can work out that SE Anzu has a single CPU from Eldar Murtazin's tweet here: http://twitter.com/#!/eldarmurtazin/statuses/3774614010335232
Posted by rog
On 2010-11-14 00:14:47, rss_ndrsn wrote:
^lol....maybe we would hear next that X12 does not support multi-touch.
Don't worry, that works quite well
@pauvincent: not before 2011
[ This Message was edited by: rog on 2010-11-14 12:04 ]
Posted by Lollylost100
That's good news rog
. SE is only a generation behind .
Posted by ^^HAMID^^
very nice
every disappointing day!!
[ This Message was edited by: ^^HAMID^^ on 2010-11-14 12:13 ]
Posted by cableguy
It still could be a dual core, as its a prototype SE still have the CPU speed clocked down.
Posted by smclion102
On 2010-11-14 12:58:30, Lollylost100 wrote:
We can work out that SE Anzu has a single CPU from Eldar Murtazin's tweet here: http://twitter.com/#!/eldarmurtazin/statuses/3774614010335232
Anzo is nice but galaxy 2 is so technically advanced. Dual core etc
WTF though
Would Give Something GOOD 
Posted by avmaxfan
Yea right!!!
A single core processor and it does 1080p video recording.
Yayyy
@Rog
Please let me know which single core processor supports 1080p video recording. Thanks
[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2010-11-14 12:57 ]
Posted by Lollylost100
Maybe there is no 1080p but only 720p?
Posted by tyko
Do we really know it records 1080p video? That is just based on statements from a source we dont know is credible.
Posted by avmaxfan
On 2010-11-14 14:06:49, Lollylost100 wrote:
Maybe there is no 1080p but only 720p?
Yup. Depends on who you believe. A guy who has lost his credibility in the recent past with no proof or a guy who obviously works at
and posted pics of the device itself.
Oh and a great way for
and Samsung to keep their next flagship phone secret by sending em to a guy who is known to keep no secrets.
Or if you take it the other way -
& Samsung couldn't have chosen a better person/ media to officially leak thier next gen devices
[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2010-11-14 13:20 ]
Posted by Lollylost100
Or the info posted by XPERIAX10.net isnt true. Maybe the guy who provided the photos said it has an HDMI port, but didnt mention anything about resolution of the output. Personally I think its just an addition from the blogger and wasnt mentioned by the original source.
More info on Anzu next week
.[ This Message was edited by: Lollylost100 on 2010-11-14 13:24 ]
Posted by rog
@avmaxfan: no idea. but I guess above posts might shed some light?
Posted by tyko
@ rog
How much do you actually know about the device? Have you seen it? I know you're credible, but how deep into SE do your arms reach so to speak.
Posted by avmaxfan
On 2010-11-14 14:22:00, rog wrote:
@avmaxfan: no idea. but I guess above posts might shed some light?
Tell us the actual Anzu specs since you seem to know everything.
Posted by anders260
bad news..
eldarmurtazin Eldar Murtazin
From hardware point of view Anzu is almost the same as HTC Desire HD. But HD on sale now, Anzu in march 2011 for the same price tag...
9 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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eldarmurtazin Eldar Murtazin
Reading forums about Anzu rumours. So many false infos. So many people think that it will be a flagship. LOL. It isnt better than Desire HD
10 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
think i will keep my X10
[ This Message was edited by: anders260 on 2010-11-14 14:04 ]
Posted by Lollylost100
So what are we lookign at?
- 4.3" screen 480x800 or 480x854
- 1GHz Snapdragon (MSM7230 @1GHz?)
- Most likely Android 2.1 with an update later on
- 512mb RAM (?)
Price: £400
and 8mpix camera
[ This Message was edited by: Lollylost100 on 2010-11-14 14:32 ]
Posted by Phoner
@Lollylost100: add 8Mpix
Posted by avmaxfan
Hahahahahahahahahahaah
Posted by smclion102
WTF then which 1 is the FLAGSHIP phone?? What is Eldar talking :@ ..
I dont get this why would SE launch something which is similar to Desire HD?and launch in march..
This is getting Ugly.. This is so pissing off.. What abt Big Surprise BERT told us?huh..
Posted by Lollylost100
On 2010-11-14 15:24:32, avmaxfan wrote:
Hahahahahahahahahahaah
I'm not sure what you find particularly funny.
Posted by avmaxfan
On 2010-11-14 15:33:27, Lollylost100 wrote:
On 2010-11-14 15:24:32, avmaxfan wrote:
Hahahahahahahahahahaah
I'm not sure what you find particularly funny.
Hehe You will know soon
Posted by rog
When? At the docomo announcement?
lollyhost's summary hits the nail on the head pretty much.
Posted by avmaxfan
On 2010-11-14 15:46:00, rog wrote:
When? At the docomo announcement?
lollyhost's summary hits the nail on the head pretty much.
Oh
Ok folks move on now, no dual core, 1080p, 12/16 mp here. Seems we have confirmed and 100% accurate info now that X12 will launch next year with this year's hardware
Great change for a company that has never shied away from using the latest hardware for its Xperia line of smartphones. Makes you wonder what makes them to forget it all and have the guts to dig their own grave. Doesn't it?
[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2010-11-14 14:57 ]
Posted by Lollylost100
Eldar Murtazin just informed me on Twitter that he will include the spec in his preview.
Posted by smclion102
Guys Think Outside the BOX for a Sec
FORGET AVMAXFAN n ELDAR
for 2010 X10 was launched 1st android and X10 had KICKASS hardware but shitty OS every1 agrees
for 2011 X12 why would
launch ANZU with similar specs to X10??
no 1080p?
no 1.2/1.5ghz?
no 12/16mp??
no 2.2/2.3 at launch??
WTF just for 4.3inch screen improvement would
launch a new phone as a flagship model ?? with no other improvements ?? just
If u consider X10 is better than X12
Dont Forget
/ BERT told ANDROID will be there main Software thing For 2011
And U guys must have also seen
has been clearly working hard to improve in android they have been seen in so MAny ANDROID EVENTS
So All this in consideration i wont agree that ANZU will have Similar Spec of Desire HD/X10
"SONY AND SONY ERICSSON ALSO TOLD THAT THEY ARE WORKING CLOSE WITH GOOGLE"
Think Positive Guys
Pls[ This Message was edited by: smclion102 on 2010-11-14 15:42 ]
Posted by Lollylost100
But going to Android events != better Android phones
Posted by rog
maybe something else to consider: android does not only run on high end hardware... And becoming the leader in the android sector doesn't mean that you need to become the leader in the smartphone area only, see the x8 for example.
[ This Message was edited by: rog on 2010-11-14 15:56 ]
Posted by Hiron
I recall Bert had said "surprises" coming soon... He also states something like this:
SE leads J2ME, now we plan to do the same to android
and
It's all about cpu and android versions race. That's what the magazines written about"...
Sorry I forgot the source...
I mean, if Bert said this and still no 1.2/1.5ghz or 2.3 for next year flagship... I dunno what to say, but if it really happens, SE is digging their own graves, especially because dual core becomes the next year standard... Just look at eldar tweets about samsung...
Or maybe, like eldar said:
Reading forums about Anzu rumours. So many false infos. So many people think that it will be a flagship. LOL. It isnt better than Desire HD
There is some speculation based on the quote:
1. Anzu is not SE Flagship, but SE is preparing another flagship that is matched with avmaxfan specs and not leaked yet... And Anzu is matched with lollylost100 specs? Maybe this debate is all about two different phones
2. Eldar or the guy who leaked the photos receives a cancelled / old revisions proto. Remember Eldar had said that Nexus One rumour is fake, only to find that it's announced later...
3. One of the person who debates this is simply wrong... We're all human and can make a mistakes...
[ This Message was edited by: Hiron on 2010-11-14 15:56 ]
Posted by Lollylost100
SE doesn't want to fall into a trap of making high end phones and high prices like they have done in the past and came out with quarterly losses. They are trying to create a safety net where they can sell more cheaper phones than make expensive phones which won't sell as well.
[ This Message was edited by: Lollylost100 on 2010-11-14 16:02 ]
Posted by smclion102
@hiron
Agree with you..
Posted by Hiron
@Lollylost100
That's why mid-range and high-range term is introduced
Even under quarterly losses, I remember X10 announcement last year had a cutting-edge hardware (read: cpu and megapixels, although not software) and it sell quite well, especially in Japan...
Now if they don't want to made a same mistakes (now they dont had quarterly losses!), I think it's logical if they improved it (read: cpu, megapixels and software)
If they decided to change this strategy and only plays a midrange in next year, then I'm dissappointed with SE...
[ This Message was edited by: Hiron on 2010-11-14 16:11 ]
Posted by se_dude
If SE come up with this phone why would i even think of changing my X10 for the X12 or whatever it is called? I mean, for just .3 inches and a slightly better proccy? Are u kidding me?
Posted by smclion102
There is always a Flagship phone guys and Eldar told SE will launch android Vivaz/Pro
Mini/pro with better specs.. So this comes under mid range..
There is PSphone also..
Posted by motvikt
God damn Im so disappointed!! Well hope still lives I guess.. The best proof we got of a really high end device is the interviews with Bert on Di.se when he said its all about the clock speeds and latest software. He also said SE aims to have the most advanced smartphone on the market next year. I mean he must know what he is talking about right?
edit. Links:
http://di.se/Artiklar/2010/10[....]-Nordberg-vinna-Androidkriget/
http://di.se/Artiklar/2010/10[....]ert-Nordberg-gar-for-tillvaxt/
[ This Message was edited by: motvikt on 2010-11-14 16:16 ]
Posted by Hiron
@se_dude, look at this list
1. Multitouch, I use PSX4Droid a lot (SE had received many critics about this, very big mistakes if they don't include it)
2. Amoled, as you can see in leaked X12 pics (truly black screen, not ashes like ordinary TFT)
3. If it has 1080p (as stated in xperiax10.net), then it must have:
a. dual core cpu (my X10 also still had laggy animation sometimes, not reaching 60fps like iPhone)
b. 8mp or 16mp back-illuminated Exmor-R sensor, as it's only two Sony's module that support 1080p (unless they decided to use Samsung module in their flagship). Their sample images is amazing, beats down X10 pics and competing directly with Nokia N8 pics...
And I remember Sony announces their 12MP modules some years ago, only to be used in Satio three months later... Maybe 8 or 16MP backside-illuminated Exmor-R sensor will be used soon by SE... Seeing it had been announced one month ago... If not, then I'm dissappointed
4. latest android. JIT in 2.2 is a huge improvement (2x-5x processing power)...
5. HDMI. I always want to try this on my Samsung TV
6. 512mb ram or more... I always think it needs a little more RAM
7. 3x lower battery consumption as claimed in OMAP4 over previous-gen OMAP...
^
^
If it had 7 above thing, then I will buy it
@motvikt,
thanks for reminding the links. I forgot the source a while ago
[ This Message was edited by: Hiron on 2010-11-14 18:55 ]
Posted by Mizzou
All of these are still only rumors, nothing is officially confirmed, Eldar Murtazin and Avmaxfan and the other, they offer the only available information. We will be wise if we are to be presented officially the new phones. You do not be ironic and controversial, it wants peace. We still look forward to all the new phones, they will be good... You believe me
SE will be back in the game
Posted by se_dude
@HIRON-The least that SE could have done was upgrade the camera which IMO was a major selling factor in the X10 coz it had more MPs than the current crop in the market. I am so dissapointed. I wanted to change my X10 and now i dunno what to get, coz the X12 isnt a quarter above my x10 in any regard. Its more like the Desire guys wont move for a desire HD and that isnt even HTCs flagship.
Posted by synn
I'm in a good mood and wanted to give a prize out for the best performance in jumping the gun, but it's a tough choice since so many of you are neck to neck at this point.
Posted by MakeBelieve.
soooo.....X12 is not flagship..... ok than what is?