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Posted by ^^HAMID^^

On 2010-11-11 12:37:50, avmaxfan wrote:

On 2010-11-11 12:36:12, ^^HAMID^^ wrote:
so there is no 1.5 ghz processing ....
1ghz in dual core? am i right?


Nope its 1.5 ghz dual Core


according to This :
# OMAP4430 operates at up to 1 GHz
# OMAP4440 operates at 1+ GHz
not 1.5


Posted by avmaxfan

On 2010-11-11 12:40:28, ^^HAMID^^ wrote:

On 2010-11-11 12:37:50, avmaxfan wrote:

On 2010-11-11 12:36:12, ^^HAMID^^ wrote:
so there is no 1.5 ghz processing ....
1ghz in dual core? am i right?


Nope its 1.5 ghz dual Core


according to This :
# OMAP4430 operates at up to 1 GHz
# OMAP4440 operates at 1+ GHz
not 1.5


OMAP 4430 can run at speeds upto 1ghz whereas OMAP 4440 can do 1 + ghz upto 1.5 ghz, hence the "+"
[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2010-11-11 11:44 ]


Posted by ^^HAMID^^

On 2010-11-11 12:43:08, avmaxfan wrote:

On 2010-11-11 12:40:28, ^^HAMID^^ wrote:

On 2010-11-11 12:37:50, avmaxfan wrote:

On 2010-11-11 12:36:12, ^^HAMID^^ wrote:
so there is no 1.5 ghz processing ....
1ghz in dual core? am i right?


Nope its 1.5 ghz dual Core


according to This :
# OMAP4430 operates at up to 1 GHz
# OMAP4440 operates at 1+ GHz
not 1.5


OMAP 4430 can run at speeds upto 1ghz whereas OMAP 4440 can do 1 + ghz upto 1.5 ghz, hence the "+"
[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2010-11-11 11:44 ]


first : hello
second : how do u know 4440 will be used?
third : up to 1.5 means it must be OCed which we can have 1.5 not in normal mode... ha?

Posted by avmaxfan
Hello

I know it from my source and other insiders who have mentioned a TI OMAP4 implementation in the next Xperia

And as I mentioned earlier the OMAP4440 can be run at either 1.2/1.5ghz. Other implementations of OMAP4440 also have the processor running at 1.5 ghz. Same with X12. It will run at speeds UPTO 1.5 ghz per core depending on the requirement. Whether it can be overclocked further than 1.5 ghz I am not sure.

Posted by tranced
@avmaxfan: so there is a "X13"?

Is there a chance to have a WP7 phone with UXP?
[ This Message was edited by: tranced on 2010-11-11 12:17 ]


Posted by pavlov's_dog
slightly off topic but using the wonderful new thing called math, i was able to approximate the dimensions of Anzu:

length 126 mm
width 62 mm
thickness ~9 mm

so it's slightly longer than my galaxy s but it's less wide and thinner. i just hope it's got MT. it's important for me imho.

Posted by avmaxfan

On 2010-11-11 13:17:20, tranced wrote:
@avmaxfan: so there is a "X13"?

Is there a chance to have a WP7 phone with UXP?
[ This Message was edited by: tranced on 2010-11-11 12:17 ]



There is a WP7 phone (X11) due Q1 2011 to be announced around the same time as X12. It was to be out by now but decided to have it spend more time at the labs bug fixing and optimizing the performance. Considering Wp7 does not allow custom OEM skins, its not likely it will have UXP like Xperia X10/X12.

And as for X"13" well there is another Xperia but its not named X13

Posted by tranced
I know there's not a X13. That why I used the " "

All this time I was thinking the X11 was going to be an Android phone

Posted by emuneee
TI OMAP makes sense since SE and TI already have a relationship. Sony Ericsson was one of the first to use the TI OMAP 3430 in the Satio handset.

Posted by pauvincent
hope x12 arrives soon

Posted by angryman

On 2010-11-11 15:55:32, pauvincent wrote:
hope x12 arrives soon

Very Soon... Possibly imminently .

Posted by Lollylost100
Akane
Anzu - X12 (X10's successor)
Hallon
Iyokan
Lychee
Mango
Mogami
Monika
Smultron
Zeus_256 - PSPhone (with 256mb RAM(?))
Zeus - PSPhone
[ This Message was edited by: Lollylost100 on 2010-11-11 15:14 ]


Posted by tranced
Smultron? Is that a mobile robot?

There are basically 10 devices. Were those the ones Eldar saw?

Posted by newbieo2
That sounds like the names of characters in Pokemon

Posted by Lollylost100

On 2010-11-11 16:24:06, tranced wrote:
Smultron? Is that a mobile robot?

There are basically 10 devices. Were those the ones Eldar saw?



They are just codenames I got hold of.

Posted by tranced
@Lollylost100: yeah I know those are the codenames. But hey. They don't need to be that "ugly".

Mango? The fruit? Come on!

How many devices did Eldar see? I'm looking for the post mentioning that.
[ This Message was edited by: tranced on 2010-11-11 15:30 ]


Posted by pauvincent

On 2010-11-11 16:13:15, Lollylost100 wrote:
Akane
Anzu - X12 (X10's successor)
Hallon
Iyokan
Lychee
Mango
Mogami
Monika
Smultron
Zeus_256 - PSPhone (with 256mb RAM(?))
Zeus - PSPhone
[ This Message was edited by: Lollylost100 on 2010-11-11 15:14 ]




Can anyone tell me which of these has the awesome 16.4 mp camera exmor-R? will it really be on x12?

Posted by Lollylost100

On 2010-11-11 16:29:59, tranced wrote:
@Lollylost100: yeah I know those are the codenames. But hey. They don't need to be that "ugly".

Mango? The fruit? Come on!

How many devices did Eldar see? I'm looking for the post mentioning that.
[ This Message was edited by: tranced on 2010-11-11 15:30 ]



7 AFAIK

Posted by tranced
@Lolly: let's say then that the others 3 will be for 2012?
[ This Message was edited by: tranced on 2010-11-11 15:33 ]


Posted by Lollylost100
Late 2011?

Posted by tranced
@Lolly: the announcement or the release date?

Posted by Ravager
"Smultron" is swedish for Woodland Strawberry or in latin Fragaria vesca
"Hallon" - Raspberry
and Mango is the same

Maybe sony ericsson is trying to be the new fruit company
[ This Message was edited by: Ravager on 2010-11-11 15:53 ]


Posted by tranced
Sounds better that way

Posted by sambouka
Akane :
Anzu - X12 (X10's successor) :
Hallon : RASPBERRY
Iyokan : ORANGE
Lychee : LYCHEE
Mango : MANGO
Mogami :
Monika :
Smultron : STRAWBERRY
Zeus_256 - PSPhone (with 256mb RAM(?))
Zeus - PSPhone
[ This Message was edited by: sambouka on 2010-11-11 16:16 ]


Posted by Lollylost100
Anzu means Apricot .

Posted by dancingfate

On 2010-11-11 16:13:15, Lollylost100 wrote:
Akane
Anzu - X12 (X10's successor)
Hallon
Iyokan
Lychee
Mango
Mogami
Monika
Smultron
Zeus_256 - PSPhone (with 256mb RAM(?))
Zeus - PSPhone
[ This Message was edited by: Lollylost100 on 2010-11-11 15:14 ]


Where is Cliaro?


Posted by sambouka

On 2010-11-11 17:22:33, Lollylost100 wrote:
Anzu means Apricot .


So Sonyericsson decided to put the fruits on Google's sweets !! And the other phones wouldn't be Android ones.

Akane : PASSION FRUIT !!!
Anzu - X12 (X10's successor) : APRICOT
Hallon : RASPBERRY
Iyokan : ORANGE
Lychee : LYCHEE
Mango : MANGO
Mogami :
Monika :
Smultron : STRAWBERRY
Zeus_256 - PSPhone (with 256mb RAM(?))
Zeus - PSPhone
[ This Message was edited by: sambouka on 2010-11-11 16:33 ]


Posted by se_dude
Wasnt clairo supposedly the X10 succ?

Posted by Lollylost100
Not by the looks of things .

Posted by Dups!
10 phones.

Is that the complete 2011 portfolio?

Posted by tranced
@Dups!: Don't think so.

Did you know Kurara is how you pronounce Clara?

Posted by io_bg
On 2010-11-11 19:34:53, tranced wrote:
Did you know Kurara is how you pronounce Clara?

Isn't Kurara U5 Vivaz?

Posted by tranced
Correcto mundo!

Posted by io_bg
So? Is Clara Vivaz' successor then?

Posted by tranced
No, it's not. I just was looking for Sony Ericsson codenames' meaning. And I came across with that.

K750 successor was, I think, K790/K800/K810.

Posted by Ravager
Monika and Mogami are just names i guess.
Though, monica could be a sort of red wine grape...

Posted by synn
"Mo Gami"means Best/ above all in Japanese.
Another hero device?

Posted by rizzamarv
Here we go again... probably similar specs to x12 and available way before...

http://www.engadget.com/2010/[....]-with-gingerbread-and-huge-di/

not sure if SE will ever get back on par with the big ones

Posted by se_dude
The only prob being that the Sammy one looks like shit.

Posted by synn

On 2010-11-12 04:10:51, se_dude wrote:
The only prob being that the Sammy one looks like shit.



It looks decent, but probably comes with free herpes, er... TouchWiz; so no thanks.



Posted by rizzamarv
True, but then again Samsungs always look like shit but sell millions. Not that I necessarily want everyone running around with a SE but they do need some better Sales and this one has again the potential to put X12 to the shadows...

Anyway back to topic, announcement anyone?

Posted by avmaxfan
Ok not defending SE here but lets for a moment compare the X12 with this Galaxy S "2"

Screen size both are the same, screen quality not sure what screen X12 is using but I would put it around at par with Sammy

Processor - X12 certainly has an edge over Sammy here. 1.5 ghz dual core vs 1.2 ghz orion on paper. In real world I expect both to be equal though.

GPU - TI OMAP4 uses the SGX540 whereas Orion GPU is 5x faster than SGX540. hmmm

Looks - For Sure X12

Features - Both would be evenly matched on this one.

Camera - Both can do 1080p but X12 camera is definitely better than the Samsung

Multimedia - I'd have to say it looks like the X12 will be a multimedia beast and will have a very slight edge over Sammy.

So overall, X12 is a little better than the Sammy, the sammy doesn't overshadow the X12 in anything except for perhaps GPU. But then we don't have the specs yet for the X12 GPU and I expect have done something about the GPU. Lets wait and watch

And who said this Samsung will be out before the X12?
X12 announcement is expected around Christmas, it might be out in some markets by the time Sammy gets announced in Feb. In any case I am willing to bet the X12 will make it earlier than Samsung

Posted by ^^HAMID^^
just I can say : Fu*c*k summy!!!!!
now I'm pretty sure that Samsung NS will launch sooner than my x12...

@ avmax an his dear source

what about BT version ? (2.1 , 3, 4,) ?
in back u told something about Gyroscope... do u still confirm the existence?

Edit :
whereas Orion GPU is 5x faster than SGX540. hmmm

WTF!
so what is the Orion GPU ???
is it Mali-400 MP which i read about it somewhere?
[ This Message was edited by: ^^HAMID^^ on 2010-11-12 08:06 ]


Posted by Lollylost100
Hoax? It says 4.3" screen then 4.5" screen. These mistakes should not be made in portfolio previews.

Posted by avmaxfan
@Lollylost100

Ahh u mean galaxy S successor? Yea that's wierd
@HAMID

Nexus S will launch soon yeah but not the Galaxy S successor.
Yea I still stand by the existence of a Gyroscope

Well its not confirmed but apparently it is the Mali 400 quad core GPU
But don't bother much about the "5 times the power" gimmick. Its just that - a marketing gimmick. In real world performance there won't be any significant difference and also keep in mind that there are hardly any games to make use of that much power. Sure it will appeal to the "benchmark crazy" people but in real world usage no significant difference. SGX540 is too powerful for today's mobile games already.
And then again its not confirmed that it will use the Orion chipset, it might as well be using the 1.2 ghz dual core Snapdragon. Considering the fact that Samsung mentioned it still needs to do some work on the Orion platform for it to be completely ready to be used. Maybe the Samsung flagship for second half 2011 will have the orion chipset and not this phone.


P.S. Just noted that the Galaxy S successor is using WVGA resolution X12 has it beat then in terms of screen I guess X12 will have atleast XGA or WXGA screen resolution


EDIT: The Supposed Samsung Gingerbread flagship not real after all

http://www.androidpolice.com/[....]ce-renders-are-fake-heres-why/
[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2010-11-12 09:01 ]


Posted by smclion102
Samsung galaxy successor looks shit and Nexus S looks horrible..
I just wish SONY ERICSSON Launch X12 soon and have all the spec that avmaxfan told..
Sony can only win if view launch X12 sooner than others.. hope they do this..

Samsung galaxy successor looks shit and Nexus S looks horrible..
I just wish SONY ERICSSON Launch X12 soon and have all the spec that avmaxfan told..
Sony can only win if view launch X12 sooner than others.. hope they do this..

Samsung galaxy successor looks shit and Nexus S looks horrible..
I just wish SONY ERICSSON Launch X12 soon and have all the spec that avmaxfan told..
Sony can only win if view launch X12 sooner than others.. hope they do this..



Posted by Shino03
I just hope there's an X9 in those selected fruits. All I need is an X8 with multitouch and a decent camera and I'm sold.

Posted by rog

On 2010-11-11 16:30:55, pauvincent wrote:

Can anyone tell me which of these has the awesome 16.4 mp camera exmor-R? will it really be on x12?


No. It's in some people's phantasy.

Posted by se_dude
@rog- Is the OMAR4440 rumor true?

Posted by king-james
The Samsung above is a FAKE!!

Check this: http://www.androidpolice.com/[....]ce-renders-are-fake-heres-why/


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