SE-Portfolio 2010 - Esato archive

Posted by ^^HAMID^^

look at the screen... thats so much black! if u gaze at tft screens (off mode) u see their color goes to ashen somehow ...
result : the screen is something except TFT ...

Posted by smclion102
codenamed "Anzu" (a lesser god of Akkadian mythology) Kinda High End
N will there be Better ANZU ?? Extreme END??

Maybe Same model with Better CAM 12mp/16mp + much thicker ?

Engadget-->>

Here's another interesting bit of gossip to take with you: we've heard from a couple of reliable sources close to the matter that the Anzu lies in the same category as the PlayStation Phone "Zeus" (also on Gingerbread but lacking the Xperia branding), and that they're being tested alongside each other. Whether this is an indication that the mystical Z-System gaming platform is heading to the Anzu, we don't know, but it makes sense given that both upcoming SE devices appear to bear the same screen size, or at least the same aspect ratio. Either way, we're told the pair will be officially announced some time before or shortly after Christmas, which again supports Xperia X10 Blog's leak. Time to stock up on some fine champagne, folks -- looks like 2011 is going to be a good year.

Posted by avmaxfan

On 2010-11-10 14:14:59, ^^HAMID^^ wrote:

look at the screen... thats so much black! if u gaze at tft screens (off mode) u see their color goes to ashen somehow ...
result : the screen is something except TFT ...

OLED

and though I cannot confirm but

has finalized a new OLED technology which they will be using in their phones. (Brighter and more efficient than Super AMOLED) IF the X12 is using that I cannot confirm but maybe it is

Posted by tyko
@ SE dude. How is it not high end? It has the same spec as desire HD and that is as high end you get today. Yes its not super high end but in 6 months these specs will still be considered high end

Posted by Phoner
From Mobile-Review twitter:

*SE Vivaz/Vivaz Pro will have successors with Android (2.1 Android today, 2.3 update later) - March 2011, 300/330 Euro RRP/MSRP

*SE X10 Mini/Mini Pro will get an update around March/April 2011-slimmer, faster CPU, bigger screen-Android 2.3 + own 4 corner UI. The same price tag-200/250 Euro

*A200 platform is almost abandoned, a few new products aren't looking good. SE didn't decide yet to launch or no

*Roadmap for the 1st half of 2011 doesn't look promising. Only Anzo (X12) looks attractive. But software wise won't be up-to-date like X10 in 2010.

*SE Yendo will get QWERTY keyboard by June 2011, low end phone (ODM). 140 Euro (no Walkman brand here)

*SE Walkman for Android isn't getting a dedicated audio chip as latest HTC devices. A pity.

[ This Message was edited by: Phoner on 2010-11-10 13:42 ]

Posted by tranced
I don't want it that slim. It got to be balanced. The same slimness of the bottom or the same slimness of the top. I prefer it to be thicker just as in the top. It looks so fragile. We gotta wait to see what material it's made of.

Regarding the new branding, Bravia, the reason maybe is that the Ginger doesn't allow customization(?).

Posted by doministry

On 2010-11-10 14:24:56, Phoner wrote:
From M-R twitter:

*SE Vivaz/Vivaz Pro will have successors with Android (2.1 Android today, 2.3 update later) - March 2011, 300/330 Euro RRP/MSRP

*SE X10 Mini/Mini Pro will get an update around March/April 2011-slimmer, faster CPU, bigger screen-Android 2.3 + own 4 corner UI. The same price tag-200/250 Euro

*A200 platform is almost abandoned, a few new products aren't looking good. SE didn't decide yet to launch or no

*Roadmap for the 1st half of 2011 doesn't look promising. Only Anzo (X12) looks attractive. But software wise won't be up-to-date like X10 in 2010.

*SE Yendo will get QWERTY keyboard by June 2011, low end phone (ODM). 140 Euro (no Walkman brand here)

[ This Message was edited by: Phoner on 2010-11-10 13:30 ]

Where is WP7 device?

Posted by se_dude
@tyko- I dont think a cpu that weighs from 800-1ghz can be termed high end. According to sources the zeus uses the same proccy as the G2.

Posted by goldenface

On 2010-11-10 14:25:10, tranced wrote:
I don't want it that slim. It got to be balanced. The same slimness of the bottom or the same slimness of the top. I prefer it to be thicker just as in the top. It looks so fragile.

It seems slim is in, the galaxy s is only 10mm so this looks about 7 - 8mm which is almost impossibly slim. It amazing how they managed to fit in an AF cam module at all

[ This Message was edited by: goldenface on 2010-11-10 13:44 ]

Posted by Indiandawg
WM7 Phone and PSP Phone?

Posted by pauvincent
i'm really wishing its not thin and that it has a16.4mp with atleast xenon flash i'd sacrifice the thiness for a great camera phone but if

can make a thin phone with exelent camera, money down

has my whole xmas bonus

Posted by Phoner
Mobile Review is mentioning only 5 or 6 devices and only for the first half of 2011. There will be more to follow.

[ This Message was edited by: Phoner on 2010-11-10 13:46 ]

Posted by tyko
Yes, but its the 45nm snapdragon, same as desire HD. But yes I do agree, was hoping for a better proccy. But as long its not hampered by it i dont mind. I still think its high end and whats considered high end specs are getting out of proportion.

Posted by se_dude
Why do i feel that what MR is saying is totally obvious? I mean cummon. All phones announced at the same time last year would have a successor.
I totally think SE should look at bringing out a camera monster.

Posted by pauvincent

On 2010-11-10 14:45:14, Phoner wrote:
Mobile Review is mentioning only 5 or 6 devices and only for the first half of 2011. There will be more to follow.

[ This Message was edited by: Phoner on 2010-11-10 13:46 ]

Hopefully the 7th device that eldar is saying is x12 which will be release december

not q1 of 2011 i'm really hoping

Posted by se_dude
Bert himself said that nowadays high ends are rated on their proccy ratings and MPs. And now he comes up with a phone which is half a year late using a proccy? Dont think so.Also the 1080p recording and encoding would need a lot of juice.

Posted by tyko
Well yes,1080p recording suggests a newer proccy. Is 45nm snapdragons capable of that?

[ This Message was edited by: tyko on 2010-11-10 13:55 ]

Posted by pauvincent
yeah monster camera phones!

must do that

Posted by king-james
Announcement tomorrow?

Posted by pauvincent
hope so

hope announcement would be very soon

Posted by domipost
Why would the announcement be tomorrow??

Posted by bodeh6
Nov 11 is when Gingerbread is supposed to be announced.
Maybe SE will be one of the first to announce phones based on Gingerbread.

Posted by pauvincent
i'm not predicting, i'm hoping that it would be soon

Posted by Phoner
Looking at the leaks, it will be very soon.

Posted by emuneee

On 2010-11-10 14:55:05, tyko wrote:
Well yes,1080p recording suggests a newer proccy. Is 45nm snapdragons capable of that?

[ This Message was edited by: tyko on 2010-11-10 13:55 ]

Nope. Direct from Qualcomm. The only SoC (that is "out") that supports 1080P playback and recording is NVIDIA's Tegra 2.

The MSM8x55 chipset platform consists of the MSM8255™ and MSM8655™ and features a newly designed and optimized multimedia sub-system over previous Snapdragon generations.
Scorpion 1 GHz CPU
Integrated 3G mobile broadband connectivity
MSM8255 support for HSPA+ networks – up to14 Mbps downloads and 5.76 Mbps uploads
MSM8655 support for HSPA+ networks – up to 14.4 Mbps downloads and 5.76 Mbps uploads – as well as CDMA2000 1X, 1xEV-DO Rel 0/A/B
Low-power 45nm process technology for higher integration and performance
High-definition (720p) video recording and playback up to 30 frames per second
Multiple video codecs: (MPEG-4, MPEG-2, H.264, H.263, VC-1, DivX, DivX 3.11, Sorenson Spark, On2 VP6)
High-performance GPU - up to 41M triangles/sec and 245M 3D pixels/se with dedicated 2D Open VG graphics hardware
High-resolution up to XGA (1024x768) display support
12-megapixel camera support
Built-in eighth-generation gps engine with Standalone-GPS and Assisted-GPS modes
Support for Wi-Fi® and Bluetooth® connectivity
Multiple audio codecs: (AAC+, eAAC+, AMR, FR, EFR, HR, WB-AMR, G.729a, G.711, AAC stereo encode)
Support for mobile broadcast TV (MediaFLO™, DVB-H and ISDB-T)
Support for Android™, Brew® Mobile Platform and Windows® Phone

[ This Message was edited by: emuneee on 2010-11-10 14:37 ]

Posted by pauvincent
i hope so

Posted by avmaxfan
I mentioned this long back when I posted the specs that snapdragons do not support 1080p and the only chipset at the time with 1080p encode/decode was/is TI OMAP 4440.
TI OMAP has full 1080p support and camera resolution support UPTO 20 megapixels.

And the dual core snapdragon procys that do support 1080p wont be out until late 2011.

[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2010-11-10 14:35 ]

Posted by pauvincent

On 2010-11-10 15:31:47, emuneee wrote:

On 2010-11-10 14:55:05, tyko wrote:
Well yes,1080p recording suggests a newer proccy. Is 45nm snapdragons capable of that?

[ This Message was edited by: tyko on 2010-11-10 13:55 ]

Nope. Direct from Qualcomm

will this be on x12?

Posted by emuneee

On 2010-11-10 15:34:35, avmaxfan wrote:
I mentioned this long back when I posted the specs that snapdragons do not support 1080p and the only chipset at the time with 1080p encode/decode was/is TI OMAP 4440.
TI OMAP has full 1080p support and camera resolution support UPTO 20 megapixels.

And the dual core snapdragon procys that do support 1080p wont be out until late 2011.

[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2010-11-10 14:35 ]

NVIDIA Tegra 2 supports 1080P playback/record. And I hear they are "out" which means they are past sampling stages and currently in development devices for a number of manufacturers (ie. LG & Motorola).

http://www.nvidia.com/object/tegra-2.html

[ This Message was edited by: emuneee on 2010-11-10 14:40 ]

Posted by Ricke77
This looks good. HDMI-out is great! Just plug it in to the TV-set!

Posted by avmaxfan

On 2010-11-10 15:39:15, emuneee wrote:

[ This Message was edited by: emuneee on 2010-11-10 14:40 ]

is NOT using Tegra 2. I can bet my house

is not using the Tegra 2 platform.

OMAP™ 4 Key Benefits

* Designed to drive smart phones and Mobile Internet Devices (MIDs)
* IVA 3 hardware accelerators enable full HD 1080p, multi-standard video encode/decode
* Faster, higher-quality image and video capture with digital SLR-like imaging up to 20 megapixels
* Dual-core ARM® Cortex™-A9 MPCore™ with Symmetric Multiprocessing (SMP)
* Integrated POWERVR™ SGX540 graphics accelerator drives 3D gaming and 3D user interfaces
* Highly optimized mobile applications platform
* OMAP4430 operates at up to 1 GHz
* OMAP4440 operates at 1+ GHz
Support Features:

* Composite TV output
* HDMI v1.3 output to drive HD displays
* Larger, color rich display support up to WUXGA (1920 x 1200)
* MIPI serial camera and serial display interfaces
* MIPI® SLIMbusSM
* MMC/SD
* USB 2.0 On-The-Go High Speed
* Comprehensive software suite supporting all major mobile OSes that is fully integrated and tested for real-world use cases to reduce development time and costs
* OMAP Developer Network provides programs and media components for manufacturers to create distinctive products delivered to market quickly

http://focus.ti.com/general/d[....]gationId=12843&templateId=6123

[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2010-11-10 15:29 ]

Posted by emuneee

is NOT using Tegra 2. I can bet my house

is not using the Tegra 2 platform.

Update: Samsung's 1GHz Hummingbird also supports 1080P encode/decode.
Update 2: Ahh, the OMAP 4, that was announced late last Winter, so that is probably the SoC of choice.

[ This Message was edited by: emuneee on 2010-11-10 14:59 ]

Posted by mario2004

Quote:

On 2010-11-10 14:44:17, pauvincent wrote:
i\\\\\'m really wishing its not thin and that it has a16.4mp with atleast xenon flash i\\\\\'d sacrifice the thiness for a great camera phone but if can make a thin phone with exelent camera, money down has my whole xmas bonus

are you prepared to wait until christmas 2011? Because this cell is only a rumor. It may be announced by christmas 2010 but with SE track record,christmas 2011 is not that far fetched

Posted by motvikt
aaah the phone Ive been waiting for

Posted by pauvincent

On 2010-11-10 15:56:00, mario2004 wrote:

Quote:

On 2010-11-10 14:44:17, pauvincent wrote:

i\\\\\'m really wishing its not thin and that it has a16.4mp with atleast xenon flash i\\\\\'d sacrifice the thiness for a great camera phone but if can make a thin phone with exelent camera, money down has my whole xmas bonus

are you prepared to wait until christmas 2011? Because this cell is only a rumor. It may be announced by christmas 2010 but with SE track record,christmas 2011 is not that far fetched

Hey i'm not discounting the posibility that it could be different with

now they have bert now but if not well sorry for me its not the end of the world cheers bro

Posted by xenia
http://www.engadget.com/photo[....]ore-playstation-phone/#3521450
I dont care about Android version on ANZU. It is just stock Android 2.1 If you look here (it is zeus)
http://www.engadget.com/photo[....]ore-playstation-phone/#3521450
it has Android 2.2...

Posted by hellogoodbye
The tipster of Xpera X10 BLOG is avmaxfan haha

the phone looks amazing! waiting it for Christmas!

Posted by king-james
Christmas 2011?

Posted by FMW300

SE Walkman for Android isn't getting a dedicated audio chip as latest HTC devices.

A Walkman Android!!!!

This is what I really wanted! At least now I know it exists. Hopefully, it's mid-range at least.

Posted by zub
am i the only one excited about the PSPhone? so much talk about X12, so little about PSPhone

Posted by ^^HAMID^^

am i the only one excited about the PSPhone? so much talk about X12, so little about PSPhone

bcuz that's too ugly dude!

Posted by Legen

On 2010-11-10 19:52:12, zub wrote:
am i the only one excited about the PSPhone? so much talk about X12, so little about PSPhone

coz mobile games are never rily any good. they jus time killers. unless they can pull off some awesome psp level graphics, people tht r serious about gaming will not c the point of such a phone. and for casual gamers, well u don't need a gaming phone to play bejeweled or angry birds

Posted by zub
well im thinking more in lines of emulators and stuff. roms for NES, SNES, gameboy, sega, etc, would be awesome on the PSPhone. also the PSXoid emulator for android. i already play some good'ol PS1 games on my galaxy S and some real hardware buttons will do a world of good.

a lot of people play roms and emulaotrs on their android phones, i think a lot of you are underestimating the real market for such a phone. and if a PSX emulotor can play PS1 games at full speed on current phones, im sure a purpose built PSPhone can easily handle PSP games no problem.

Posted by Lollylost100
This is my mock-up of the Sony Ericsson Anzu:

Posted by avmaxfan
Good Job Lollylost

Looks fantastic

Btw read this about the OMAP4 chipset

As for OMAP4, that will offer a significant performance jump over the previous-gen platform, thanks to dual 1GHz ARM A9 cores. It’ll also be a more power frugal chipset; Texas Instruments reckon that, while a roughly 1,000 mAh battery would be good for 30 to 50 hours of MP3 playback with an OMAP3, the OMAP4 will offer up to 145 hours. More impressive, however, is the video performance. The OMAP4 chipset can drive three displays simultaneously
the HDMI port can output Full HD 1080p 30fps.

The OMAP4 is also capable of 1080p 24/30fps video encoding.
According to Marcelo O Vieria, general manager of the OMAP business group, the OMAP4 1080p video codec is stronger than that of the Tegra 2, in fact he reckons TI “have a better video engine than [NVIDIA] do”. OMAP4 also supports 20-megapixel or higher image processing, as well as three simultaneous displays, and it has significantly more memory bandwidth than Tegra 2 which means it’s better at multitasking. Worth remembering, too, is that OMAP4 is suited to smartphones.
TI also claim the chipset supports “universal decode”, which basically means that no matter what the media format type you throw at it, the OMAP4 should be able to play it.
Unfortunately Texas Instruments weren’t allowing video of their OMAP4 prototype as yet, though we did take some photos of the hardware in action. Suffice to say, video playback was as smooth as if from a standalone Blu-ray player.

http://www.slashgear.com/texa[....]uments-omap4-hands-on-0172231/

I think this should allay all concerns regarding battery life

[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2010-11-11 05:34 ]

Posted by Ricke77
My hope is that the X12 will be out not later than may 2011.
Let us hope the announcement is soon to come...

Posted by ^^HAMID^^
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2KSCPOhQ7w
X12 will have ST-Ericsson U8500.?????

FEATURES
Full HD 1080p camcorder, multiple codecs supported
(H264 HP, VC-1, MPEG-4)
High-resolution, touchscreen display support up to XGA
Simultaneous dual display support
High performance 3D graphics, support for
OpenVG 1.1 and OpenGL ES 2.0
Dual camera support with Integrated ISP 20 Mpixel and 5 Mpixel
Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and GPS enabled platform
Built-in USB 2.0, HDMI out
Support for multiple operating systems, Symbian, Android
and Linux-based platforms
Optional support for mobile TV standards

Posted by avmaxfan

On 2010-11-11 12:27:18, ^^HAMID^^ wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2KSCPOhQ7w
X12 will have ST-Ericsson U8500.?????

FEATURES
Full HD 1080p camcorder, multiple codecs supported
(H264 HP, VC-1, MPEG-4)
High-resolution, touchscreen display support up to XGA
Simultaneous dual display support
High performance 3D graphics, support for
OpenVG 1.1 and OpenGL ES 2.0
Dual camera support with Integrated ISP 20 Mpixel and 5 Mpixel
Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and GPS enabled platform
Built-in USB 2.0, HDMI out
Support for multiple operating systems, Symbian, Android
and Linux-based platforms
Optional support for mobile TV standards

It may but not likely. Various sources including mine have confirmed the use of TI OMAP4

Personally I don't care what chipset/proccy it uses as all of em are great - TI OMAP4, ST Ericsson U8500, Tegra 2. All are wonderful new platforms

[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2010-11-11 11:31 ]

Posted by ^^HAMID^^
so there is no 1.5 ghz processing ....
1ghz in dual core? am i right?

Posted by avmaxfan

On 2010-11-11 12:36:12, ^^HAMID^^ wrote:
so there is no 1.5 ghz processing ....
1ghz in dual core? am i right?

Nope its 1.5 ghz dual Core

OMAP4 4440 runs at 1ghz + clock speed meaning it can be overclocked to 1.2 or 1.5... Apparently

has it set at 1.5 ghz. And that makes it a higher clocked proccy than any competition. Tegra 2 is 1ghz dual core and ST Ericsson U8500 is 1.2 ghz dual core

[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2010-11-11 11:41 ]