Posted by tyko
The next wave of smartphones will be so powerful and good hardwarewise so it will be difficult to fail unless its really buggy. I felt that the X10 was really close to perfect for my needs, only lacking in the camera department. The X12 will probably close the circle so to speak. In what areas do you see the new smartphones really would exceed todays smartphones? Softwarewise, developers have to adjust to the fragmentation of android phones which mean they cannot afford to develop software towards only the most powerful phones. One thing I look forward to is that websurfing on phones will take another step becoming more like websurfing on computers with handling flash, general speed and so fort.
Posted by motvikt
On 2010-10-24 05:18:38, se_dude wrote:
Nopes. Maximys confirmed the use of an OMAP4 proccy in the 2011 flagship.
Did he? when?
[ This Message was edited by: motvikt on 2010-10-24 12:53 ]
Posted by smclion102
Sony Ericsson manufacturer Foxconn to hike raise prices and costs of electronic parts
God Damn Now All products will cost more n X12/16 will be more than 700$ for sure now
Posted by jack00
On 2010-10-24 15:41:28, smclion102 wrote:
Sony Ericsson manufacturer Foxconn to hike raise prices and costs of electronic parts
God Damn Now All products will cost more n X12/16 will be more than 700$ for sure now
they deserve it!
Posted by Phoner
@jack00 +1
Posted by hihihans
+2
I don't work for nothing either
Posted by jj03
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Posted by Domecot
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Posted by Phoner
What that has to do with Sony Ericsson rumors?
Posted by Legen
maybe he's at sonyericsson school.....?
Posted by Domecot
oh sh*t, that was meant for the CHAT Thread
sorry guys
Posted by rss_ndrsn
@avmaxfan
My few gripes at the moment about the X12 specs you posted here are that the phone does not support microSDXC and the internal memory is not at least 32GB. X12 is a powerful device that takes high resolution photos and videos and supports high quality games which are big files. The 16 gb will be quite small for such a high end device. So I hope the 16gb internal memory and microSDHC are not final.
Just a question, does the X12 sport the following features?
1. MicroHDMI
2. Bluetooth 4.0
3. Front-facing camera
4. Plasma Flash (on top of the Xenon)
5. HSPA+ up to 21 mbps and quintband HSPDA
6. Dual-mics with noise cancellation technology
7. Stereo Speakers.
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Last year, somebody said that SE would release a headphone similar to Sony Ericsson MH907 for Android phones. Any news if when it is coming or it does exist. I am hoping for a headphone that is the combination of MH907 and HPM-88 with 3.5mm pin. It would be nice to have such headset bundled with X12.
[ This Message was edited by: rss_ndrsn on 2010-10-24 21:35 ]
Posted by Ricky D
The MH907 communicates the pause/play/pickup/putdown commands through the fastport, I can't see how it will communicate through the 3.5mm jack. The best way in my opinion for this to be implemented is if it were crossed with something like the IS800 (which I have and love with my X10) and work through bluetooth, in which case you wouldn't have the 3.5mm connector and you'd still get the various motion commands communicated.
Posted by Phoner
MH907 could easily work with Sony Ericsson 3.5mm AVP jack
Posted by tangey
Anyone here that has for even a moment considered that a next gen SE phone will have 512Mb of ram DEDICIATED to the GPU needs their head examined.
1) You do not commit half the total available ram in a system to a GPU that will not need it 95% of the time.
2) Previous spec "leaks" have indicated that the applications processor will be Omap4. This uses the powerVr SGX530, which employs tile based rendering to reduced memory & bandwidth requirements. It would never in a million years know what to do with 512M of ram !
3) The GMA600 used in the upcoming Intel Moorestown, OakTrail etc Socs use a higher performance variant of the same graphics core, namely the SGX535. The graphics core is capable of addressing MAXIMUM 128MBs of memory, and this is in a chip that is destined to be used for tablets under full windows 7 !
http://www.notebookcheck.net/[....]celerator-GMA-600.31181.0.html
3) PS2 had 4MB of dedicated graphics memory, plus could use some of the 32MB of main memory, which also had to contain the game !
If the rest of the "spec" is based in the same alternative reality as the graphics ram, one must have serious doubt about it.
Posted by goldenface
I doubt those specifications too, they are all possible but unlikely to be seen on one device - it's more like a wish list.
Posted by ^^HAMID^^
@avamaxfan
Are u ready for mismatch of what will be released and what u told us?
cus u speak with much confidence
if the specs become false, all will be depressed and u'r responsible for that
just kidding
[ This Message was edited by: ^^HAMID^^ on 2010-10-25 16:35 ]
Posted by smclion102
samsung to unvil new android on nov 8th.... Lets see what they will get... Then we can see where the market is heading.... N knw if avmaxfan's comments are true... No offence avmaxfan i dont want to get disspointed later .... Cause lot of negative comments are going around wit x10...
Posted by xenia
http://upwap.ru/d/1094443/f7c[....]1d1004cc5bc11/f57947cc133a.jpg
Something new)
Posted by juris15
concept? canceled phone? the screen looks long.. o_o
[ This Message was edited by: juris15 on 2010-10-25 19:39 ]
Posted by goldenface
[ This Message was edited by: goldenface on 2010-10-25 19:59 ]
Posted by io_bg
I doubt this could be the X12...
Posted by goldenface
I doubt it very much. I wouldn't pay anything for that
Posted by ^^HAMID^^
hopefully it's a canceled one...
so ugly
Posted by goldenface
Isn't it an X1 with a photoshopped screen?
Anyway, I hope we have some leaked pictures soon.
Posted by Phoner
Another useless concept/fake...
Posted by tranced
But who would love this concept, by Remort1, to be true?
Posted by Ricky D
Really? I'd want a flash and a 16:9 aspect ratio on the screen. And, if it was white I'd like the gloss white of the X10 OR the matt rubberised effect rather than the cheapish feel plastic of the X8.
Posted by Platia1
I definitely wouldn't want it to look like that
SE will really have to pull out all the stops for the X10 successor, the X10 is a very attractive device and I don't know how they will be able to improve on it for the successor
Posted by NoTnERb
there are a lot of videos circulating around the web with x10s running 2.1 with multi touch. x10s hardware doesn't allow for multi touch. Its really a head scratcher.
[ This Message was edited by: NoTnERb on 2010-10-26 08:07 ]
Posted by Xajel
On 2010-10-26 08:36:15, NoTnERb wrote:
there are a lot of videos circulating around the web with x10s running 2.1 with multi touch. x10s hardware doesn't allow for multi touch. Its really a head scratcher.
[ This Message was edited by: NoTnERb on 2010-10-26 08:07 ]
It's just emulation of multi-touch...
not practical and poor performance and responses
Posted by sealover94
x12 ..all over again
What about the delay this time? 6 months? one year ?? 
Posted by pavlov's_dog
looks nice. screams shopped though.
Posted by Xajel
@sealover94...
I think you mean X11 as this is WP7 not Android
Posted by Angello
I can understand that you're all desperate, but seriously this is not the concept thread.
Posted by pauvincent
i really hope x12 comes on time i'm buying it and the haters will die lol
Posted by pauvincent
what ever the look of x12 it will be cool and cutting edge
ROCKS
Posted by smclion102
x11 sweet
hope announcment is soon
X12/16
X12/16
X12/16
X12/16 cant wait
Posted by pauvincent
countdown beggins hopei don't get broke after i buy that phone lol
Posted by feryshad
Sony Ericsson set to ‘blow the doors off’ DroidconLink text...
Posted by motvikt
God damn, I dont think SE will show anything in November. Shouldnt we have heard anything about a coming announcement/press-conference/whatever by now?
Posted by goldenface
DoCoMo announces new phones in November - that's the biggest clue we have that something will appear in the form of the SO-01C / X10 successor.
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showthread.php?t=2911718
Posted by rss_ndrsn
On 2010-10-25 15:21:35, tangey wrote:
Anyone here that has for even a moment considered that a next gen SE phone will have 512Mb of ram DEDICIATED to the GPU needs their head examined.
1) You do not commit half the total available ram in a system to a GPU that will not need it 95% of the time.
2) Previous spec "leaks" have indicated that the applications processor will be Omap4. This uses the powerVr SGX530, which employs tile based rendering to reduced memory & bandwidth requirements. It would never in a million years know what to do with 512M of ram !
3) The GMA600 used in the upcoming Intel Moorestown, OakTrail etc Socs use a higher performance variant of the same graphics core, namely the SGX535. The graphics core is capable of addressing MAXIMUM 128MBs of memory, and this is in a chip that is destined to be used for tablets under full windows 7 !
http://www.notebookcheck.net/[....]celerator-GMA-600.31181.0.html
3) PS2 had 4MB of dedicated graphics memory, plus could use some of the 32MB of main memory, which also had to contain the game !
If the rest of the "spec" is based in the same alternative reality as the graphics ram, one must have serious doubt about it.
You definitely have valid points but you have to get some of your facts straight. Omap 4 will not use or has never ever been rumoured to use PowerVR SGX 530. It will use PowerVR SGX 540 which what Samsung Galaxy S I9000 and family have and is better than PowerVR SGX 535. You can double check that on TI OMAP 4 webpage.
About the dedicated 512 RAM, SE sure have a reason why they need it. That we will find out in the next couple of weeks.
But here is my insight about the matter which are based from several articles in the internet. I think X12 will use PowerVR SGX543MP8 (eight cores) capable of 532 million poly/s, fill rates excess in excess of 16Gpixels/sec at 400MHz. The same as the rumoured GPU for PSP2. Plus, PSP2 is also rumoured to have dual-core processor so I do not think it is just a mere coincidence. Since according to avmaxfan X12 will be the first phone to take the Android gaming experience to the next level, it would be just about right. So CPU and GPU specifications are OMAP 4440 1.5GHz dual-core plus PowerVR SGX543MP8 with dedicated 512mb RAM.
Next year will be the battle of CPU and GPU with the top-end electronic handheld devices are expected to sport Samsung Orion, ARM Cortex + GEForce 9 (Nintendo DS2), ARM Cortex + PowerVR (HTC), etc. Let's us see who will be the fastest of them all.
[ This Message was edited by: rss_ndrsn on 2010-10-26 23:01 ]
Posted by tangey
On 2010-10-27 00:00:08, rss_ndrsn wrote:
You definitely have valid points but you have to get some of your facts straight. Omap 4 will not use or has never ever been rumoured to use PowerVR SGX 530. It will use PowerVR SGX 540 which what Samsung Galaxy S I9000 and family have and is better than PowerVR SGX 535. You can double check that on TI OMAP 4 webpage.
About the dedicated 512 RAM, SE sure have a reason why they need it. That we will find out in the next couple of weeks.
But here is my insight about the matter which are based from several articles in the internet. I think X12 will use PowerVR SGX543MP8 (eight cores) capable of 532 million poly/s, fill rates excess in excess of 16Gpixels/sec at 400MHz. The same as the rumoured GPU for PSP2. Plus, PSP2 is also rumoured to have dual-core processor so I do not think it is just a mere coincidence. Since according to avmaxfan X12 will be the first phone to take the Android gaming experience to the next level, it would be just about right. So CPU and GPU specifications are OMAP 4440 1.5GHz dual-core plus PowerVR SGX543MP8 with dedicated 512mb RAM.
my bad regarding the omap4, I *know* its 540, why i decided for that paragraph its 530 is beyond me, musta been thinking about omap3.
Ti Omap4400 contains SGX540, that's a fact, if its Omap4400 then its SGX540, not a multi-core anything.
TI only licenced multi-core graphics technology from IMG 5 months ago, to think its gonna pop up in a device in the next 6 months is absurd. They havn't even got a single Omap44xx with sgx540 in a user product yet. multi-core via TI will not occur until next get Omap5. I expect Omap5 to be announced at WMC in Feb, and been seen in devices 2012. BTW OMAp4 was originally announced at WMC2009.
Regard the sony PSP2, its been rumoured to be SGX543x4, SGX543x8. There have been no useful articles on the net regarding it, some wild fanciful stuff over on semi-accurate, and a few other places, but nothing from a notable source. BTW its is widely assumed that Sony are the unnamed "Major International Consumer Electronics Company" that licenced a high end graphics core from IMG in Nov 2008, a much more reasonable time-frame. Clearly if Sony was using a part from TI, who also have a multi-core licence, Sony would not need to licence the graphics IP themselves. Whatever Sony is doing with the PSP2, if its IMG, its not a TI application processor, its something they are designing themselves, possibly using MIPS ( an IMG technology partner), and given that a gaming consoles expected battery life is TOTALLY different from a mobile phones, the platform will not be cross used in that way.
512MB DEDICATED to graphics in a mobile...absurd, the PS3 only has 256M !!
[ This Message was edited by: tangey on 2010-10-26 23:46 ]
Posted by Sutitan
IT HAS HAPPENED! PSP PHONE!!!!
http://www.engadget.com/2010/[....]he-playstation-phone/#comments
Posted by c96sthl
Finally but too bad.... I don't really like the industrial design.
Maybe it just look too much like PSP Go or maybe its the color on this sample...hopefully the official announcement can show the true beauty of it.
and hope SE learn their lesson not to be slow in following Google's Android update
Posted by pavlov's_dog
this will probably look heaps better in press pics. first impressions? it's okay. the shape is like that of vivaz, so nothing new. what i don't like though is the fact that when on landscape, the screen is not centered. I also don't dig the 4 buttons - they look too crowded. i think we can live without the dedicated search button. and the button labels - they should stick with the SE ones, as now they look like Samsung's.
Posted by pauvincent
is getting better and better hope everything turns out good for sake and ours
Posted by Sutitan
I think it all looks amazing. Love the touch pad in the middle and the bumper buttons. Now for the x12
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