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Posted by NoTnERb
^what do you mean by motorola already releasing a device with android 2.5? there's no 2.5 yet..


Posted by mediar
@avmaxfan - the combination of all on one place is unbevievable.

Posted by avmaxfan
Android 2.5 is Gingerbread. And Motorola Droid successor will be the first phone to come out with it.

@mediar

Yes but then is capable of giving us this "surprise"
[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2010-10-23 07:03 ]


Posted by Legen
thanx for the info. hope u are right. that wuld be a nice "wow" i havn't felt since the W810 and K850. wats the catch tho? available 3Q 2011(the last day of the quarter!)?
[ This Message was edited by: Legen on 2010-10-23 07:19 ]


Posted by avmaxfan
LOL
It will be available from Q1 2011 depending on the market. Europe and Asia will get it first perhaps like the X10, US may have to wait a little more. Maybe a month or two after the Asia release.

How come the specs are suddenly upgraded
wih qwerty and 16 mp camera? If its suppose to be released q1, isn't a bit late to change hardware parts this close to release?

what specs are upgraded? Except for the camera, nothing else is upgraded.
And yes it is a bit late to change hardware parts but I guess its not impossible either. I had mentioned earlier that after SONY announced the new 16.4 mp camera module that maybe the X12 will get it, and it seems that will be the case.
[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2010-10-23 07:32 ]


Posted by tyko
How come the specs are suddenly upgraded
wih qwerty and 16 mp camera? If its suppose to be released q1, isn't a bit late to change hardware parts this close to release?

Posted by Platia1
Next release of Android is V2.3, which may be Froyo (ala V2.0 VS V2.1) or Gingerbread

http://www.engadget.com/2010/[....]ays-anonymous-google-engineer/

Those specs are very impressive, if true, and definitely would make an awesome device

Posted by Ricky D
I'd pay top dollar for that if it doesn't have a physical keyboard

Posted by Dups!
If these specs are indeed true then it is one huge leap forward for SE!! The only concern I have is announcement versus release date.

SE should announce it in January cause announcing it now in November for a Q1 release opens SE up to attack as has always been the case recently.

Posted by goldenface
Announcement early November and shipping in mid January is only eight weeks - if the previously mentioned shipping date turns out to be correct.

Those specs are amazing - and all theoretically possible - and with the latest OS version the phone will definitely be good for a couple of years. The X12 should be revealed at the same time as the revealing of the DoCoMo winter collection in November - in three weeks.

I hope we can count on them creating another great looking device.

Posted by nikos_se
these are really great news.....but what worries me is the size of the phone....looking at recently announced 4" screen phones from other manufacturers,they are all way bigger than the xperia x10......i just hope sony ericsson will not make the device bigger than the x10.....

has anyone got any information about the size of the phone,thickness or weight?

Posted by io_bg
The specs sheet is impressive but I've a feeling the phone might not get an update for Android 3.0 when it gets released...

Posted by goldenface
I'd like the phone to have a similar thickness to the X10, I find it comfortable to slip into your pocket. With it still having a 4" screen I can't see it being vastly different in size.

If SE are in as tight with Google as they say they are then Video Calling is a possibility as Gingerbread supports it.

Posted by avmaxfan
Well I am sure will not repeat the mistakes it made with the X10 next year with the X12. I am hoping the X12 will be amongst the first to be upgraded to a newer OS version
And that is quite likely with and Google working closely

@nikos se, goldenface

Since the camera module has now changed from 12 mp to 16.4 mp with Xenon flash, I am sure its now thicker than the 10mm it was supposed to be. Maybe 13mm or 14mm thick now? Considering the satio with 12mp and xenon flash is 13mm thick
[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2010-10-23 10:39 ]


Posted by smclion102
@avmaxfan
Amazing specs
but am still counting on ur old spec details

Disagree
16.4mp
16gb internal memory

i dont think will add these things suddenly if they want to add these they will announce lately/deliver the handset late...

agree
12mp
OLED
1gb ram
Gingerbread OS
1800mah battery
===========
Senior Software Architect for Android Development at has given some insight into the complicated work behind the development process.

U can read the above link for more details

"You cannot just download the vanilla version of Android and stick it into the handset. They first have to work with their component suppliers (flash memory, displays, and processors)"

So i highly dont think will add 16.4mp n internal memory.This will again DELAY the things

Posted by avmaxfan
@smclion102

When did I ever mention anything about internal memory earlier?? So how is it an "addition". ? I had no info on the exact numbers, now I do and its 16 GB.

And as for the 16.4 mp camera, well I believe it is indeed possible and such changes before announcement do happen. Initially when the "X12" project started the camera was not decided. Later they went with 12mp module but I do believe there is a very high chance that the 16.4 mp module has made its way inside the X12

Posted by smclion102
@avmaxfan

If the New specs are true then Cost will Be Very HIGH more than X10.
wht do u think the price wud be?

---Regarding the new spec addup
Its not so easy for them to just change the specs thts wht i feel cause already has history of is late for delivering products late n if they upgrade the spec they will delay the announcement or Launch the model late again

u guys have seen hw slow is eg X1/satio

they wud have already made so much plans for X12 wit old specs if they upgrade the new spec then again they will have to do SO MANY GOD DAMN TESTING or whtever they have to do..
they have to do it again from beginning this will again delay to deliver us X12 by then HTC/ samsung will have a product

I am really happy with Old Specs
hope dont messup again
If they stick with Old specs then they wont have any delays

Posted by smclion102
@avmaxfan

Fingers crossed dude hope ur specs come true. X12 will be KILLER PHONE with these specs.
dont want to do anything wrong with X12

See X10 users are so damn frustrated with no 2.1 delay
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Posted by Dups!

On 2010-10-23 10:51:10, goldenface wrote:
Announcement early November and shipping in mid January is only eight weeks - if the previously mentioned shipping date turns out to be correct.

Those specs are amazing - and all theoretically possible - and with the latest OS version the phone will definitely be good for a couple of years. The X12 should be revealed at the same time as the revealing of the DoCoMo winter collection in November - in three weeks.

I hope we can count on them creating another great looking device.



IF JANUARY is the release date then I am okay with its November announcement. I'm beginning to think that these specs are real. The X10 has taught them a lesson in that people will buy a technologically sound phone but if it is handicapped by an older OS version then it will suffer. This thing is likely to be one hell of a best-seller assuming the specs are real and it comes out in January.

I would still love a P1i type of Android phone though

Posted by se_dude
well. I would be happy with a 12mp cam. 16mp is overkill and i shall be hapy to pay a lower price for a 12 mp one.

Posted by MNX1024
Any words on what the screen resolution is and what band it would support? I'm hoping this thing would support penta band like some of Nokia's phones.

Posted by avmaxfan
As for the screen resolution I mentioned earlier it will be 1080x720. (Or is 1080 a goof up? It could be 1280 and not 1080)
And as for what band it would support, most likely the same as X10

And also keep in mind that ALTEK announced a 14 mp Android already. So maybe want to counter that and any future 14+ mp droids by adding 16.4 mp into X12


Oh and only few weeks for the official announcement


P.S. The "BIG" suprise is the X12 that bert was talking about . I guess there was an interview somewhere where he mentioned that they will soon launch a phone that will be cutting edge and be ahead of the competition in terms of specs.
[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2010-10-23 12:37 ]


Posted by nikos_se
I am really optimistic for ONE thing and only........

as we all know xperia x10 has had a huge success in Japan....and that makes SONY happy....that means that NOW SONY is even more intrested into making the best x10 successor since the handset is going to be sold in JAPAN TOO....and we all know japanese are tech-savvy....so the x10 successor has to be an overkill....so i too believe that 16.4mp is highly likely...!!!

Posted by juris15
but by that the sales of 16mp cybershot (S006?) will some problems

edit:
or maybe no... since one si full touch and the other one has keypad...
[ This Message was edited by: juris15 on 2010-10-23 12:43 ]


Posted by Platia1

On 2010-10-23 13:42:01, juris15 wrote:
but by that the sales of 16mp cybershot (S006?) will some problems

edit:
or maybe no... since one si full touch and the other one has keypad...
[ This Message was edited by: juris15 on 2010-10-23 12:43 ]



Different carriers anyway, the X10 is on NTT DoCoMo, the S006 is on AU KDDI

I think in the vast majority of cases, phone development is very strictly controled by the carriers anyway, if AU KDDI don't like the power of this X12 device, then it's probably their own fault

Posted by goldenface
I can fully imagine the new 16MP sensor being featured on phones appearing early 2011. The camera on SE phones is one of the features that they expect to excel in. The S006 and SO-01C have probably been in development for a similar length of time.

It would be amazing if they managed to squeeze Xenon in to the Cliaro package too - it's probably the biggest thing I miss on my X10 right now and with the human-curvature theme they have going on right now, they could probably do it without making the phone look overly bulky.


Posted by avmaxfan
PSP phone rumours not just for nothing

Okay okay... this is not about The rumored PSP phone . But the X12. The X12 is certainly not a playstation phone but it will be the phone that takes gaming on Android to another level
Google and will both benefit from the gaming capabilities of X12

@goldenface

yup X12 will have Xenon flash

@Topic

Some more things

a) Remember how the X10 was supposed to be "X3"? So expect last moment name changes of Cliaro from X12 to I dont know what X16???

b) As mentioned by some of the other members here, since the X12 is also going to be sold in Japan, the specs clearly indicate that SONY has played a major role in the development of the X12. If you look at all the Japan models, they all hav more SONY characteristics than . CMOS sensors, OLED screens and the works. I am starting to believe that the X12 is not just a smartphone. Its more of a SONY, , and GOOGLE smartphone. Anyone agree with me?
[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2010-10-23 15:56 ]


Posted by smclion102
@AVMAXFAN
when can we expect x12 announcment?? Any exact date/which week in november/Dec? Pls ask your source n confirm ... Cant wait... @AVMAXFAN
when can we expect x12 announcment?? Any exact date/which week in november/Dec? Pls ask your source n confirm ... Cant wait...

Posted by avmaxfan

On 2010-10-23 17:01:12, smclion102 wrote:
@AVMAXFAN
when can we expect x12 announcment?? Any exact date/which week in november/Dec? Pls ask your source n confirm ... Cant wait...


Well in less than 3 weeks. I do not have exact dates but expect an announcement or an "official" leak by second week of November. In any case should not be more than 20 days from now.

Posted by motvikt

On 2010-10-23 06:20:33, avmaxfan wrote:
More Xperia X12 details :-D

It will have 1gb of RAM, 4 inch OLED with multi touch support, 16gb internal memory with micro SD card support upto 32gb,Android Gingerbread OS, , 1800mah battery, Dedicated GPU with 512mb memory dedicated.
And surprise surprise

16.4 Megapixel Camera with Xenon Flash and 1080p video recording

Rest of the specs as mentioned earlier. which includes a 1.5 Ghz Dual core CPU

UPDATE: Physical QWERTY might have been confused with the Windows 7 handset. SO have removed that.
[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2010-10-23 07:40 ]



Keep dreaming Funny how starved we are for news that we believe almost anything.

Posted by Dups!

On 2010-10-23 17:12:12, motvikt wrote:

On 2010-10-23 06:20:33, avmaxfan wrote:
More Xperia X12 details :-D

It will have 1gb of RAM, 4 inch OLED with multi touch support, 16gb internal memory with micro SD card support upto 32gb,Android Gingerbread OS, , 1800mah battery, Dedicated GPU with 512mb memory dedicated.
And surprise surprise

16.4 Megapixel Camera with Xenon Flash and 1080p video recording

Rest of the specs as mentioned earlier. which includes a 1.5 Ghz Dual core CPU

UPDATE: Physical QWERTY might have been confused with the Windows 7 handset. SO have removed that.
[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2010-10-23 07:40 ]



Keep dreaming Funny how starved we are for news that we believe almost anything.




I must admit we are starved for a mighty phone from SE aren't we?

I suppose we have to wait and see what will be announced.

Personally, I think the 16mp camera, 1.5ghz processor, 1g RAM are somewhat likely but the internal memory and Gingerbread I doubt. SE has never been a fan of massive internal memory and Gingerbread is still to be announced so what are the chances of SE having it in a phone that is to be released (presumably) in January?

I am getting a little bit sober now and things are beginning to look clearer.

I wait for SE to prove me wrong.

Posted by synn
Google just installed a Gingebread man in front of their HQ, which as tradition suggests, means that the development has been completed.

That changes things a bit.

Posted by smclion102
more news on ginger bread seinsider.com/?p=3969
its matter of days for google to announce new OS may be SE wil have the beta version of gingerbread in X12 or X16...

Posted by xnuo

On 2010-10-23 12:31:36, Dups! wrote:

I would still love a P1i type of Android phone though



my dear Dups, there is a phone like that....

http://www.engadget.com/2010/[....]y-portrait-droid-pro-unveiled/

Posted by nikos_se
so to sum it up we know the following for the x10 successor:

->it will run on the latest version of android(gingerbeard)

->it will have a 4" oled. better than iphone4(in res),screen that will support multitouch

->it will have either a 12mp or 16mp camera module with fullhd rec

->it will have a dual-core proc. at 1.5ghz with 1gb ram and 16gb flash memory

->it will have a 1800mah battery


.....so where's the catch??/i mean it cant posibbly do everything right without some flaws...

i believe it wont have fm radio rds(lol) or it wil have fastport(double lol)

Posted by tranced
@nikos_se: I doubt it'll have fastport.

Posted by Dups!

On 2010-10-23 18:08:04, xnuo wrote:

On 2010-10-23 12:31:36, Dups! wrote:

I would still love a P1i type of Android phone though



my dear Dups, there is a phone like that....

http://www.engadget.com/2010/[....]y-portrait-droid-pro-unveiled/



You won't believe how extremely excited I was when I first saw that but my excitement turned quickly into sadness after realising that that phone is US only. That was my next phone without a shadow of a doubt.

Seeing that I can't get it I'm hoping SE finally releases a true successor of the P1i in Android.

@synn

I suppose that does alter the situation a bit but I'm still wondering how long it will take snail-paced SE to fully optimize it for the X12 is it is to be released in January- again the release schedule is a rumour nothing more.

Posted by luwi

On 2010-10-23 06:20:33, avmaxfan wrote:
More Xperia X12 details :-D

It will have 1gb of RAM, 4 inch OLED with multi touch support, 16gb internal memory with micro SD card support upto 32gb,Android Gingerbread OS, , 1800mah battery, Dedicated GPU with 512mb memory dedicated.
And surprise surprise

16.4 Megapixel Camera with Xenon Flash and 1080p video recording

Rest of the specs as mentioned earlier. which includes a 1.5 Ghz Dual core CPU

UPDATE: Physical QWERTY might have been confused with the Windows 7 handset. SO have removed that.
[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2010-10-23 07:40 ]



if this is really the specs of coming Xperia X12, it is the mobile monster!

I will postpone buying htc desire HD for this unit. Lets wait for official announcement. Roll on

Posted by bart
you forgot to mention the time it will hit the market... 2012
and the time it will be bugfree... never

Posted by Phoner
If the specs are correct, the only flaw I can think of is X12's (X16's) price...

Posted by tranced
@Phoner: no pain, no gain.

Posted by Phoner
Totally agree with you. Still, I am sure it will cost an arm and a leg.

Posted by Dups!
Seeing that I'm using two lines this would definitely be on my 'next buy' items while waiting for the P1i-esque Android phone.

If the specs are true then I won't care much about the price.

Posted by xnuo

On 2010-10-23 18:18:59, tranced wrote:
@nikos_se: I doubt it'll have fastport.



@tranced: as stubborn and hardheaded as SE is, i don't doubt anything from them in this life...

Posted by tyko
A person at a swedish mobile forum said, in a discussion about X12, that he was told by a friend working at Ericsson to wait until spring to buy a new phone indicating you know what. If this is true 1) X12 wont be released in february rather end of march/april. 2) X12 will probably be running on the U8500 platform since the information came from an Ericsson employee, not SE.

Posted by Dups!
Ya, that's more like SE that. March/April does sound plausible which makes you wonder how competitive the phones from the other manufacturers will be.

I'll wait for this upcoming announcement but I did question the January release date. Let's wait and see.

Posted by motvikt
Still, if they use the u8500 platform its gonna be fuc*ing epic. Gonna be hard for the others to compete with that

Posted by xnuo
+2 to that

Posted by se_dude
Nopes. Maximys confirmed the use of an OMAP4 proccy in the 2011 flagship.

Posted by smclion102
Am really worried abt the price X12/16... Hope it should be around 600-700 USD


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