Posted by Dups!
On 2010-09-10 18:23:27, juris15 wrote:
isn't mr. bert said that they're working on a device closely with Sony and it will be launched this year? correct me if im wrong... maybe that's the ps phone...
Note how he said that they won't be releasing any more phones this year.
That was the impression I had all along since they mentioned that they were releasing less phones this year.
That makes avmaxfan's posts wrong. They may announce phones this year for release next year.
Posted by NoTnERb
yes, SE is looking at the quieter route. The time from announcement to release is getting shorter which is always a plus. Hopefully, the ones they announce this month or the next will be something mind blowing. I'm actually cautiously optimistic.
Posted by FMW300
I think if Eldar hints at a 12mp android, then he most likely knows what he's talking about. A couple weeks ago, he posted that SE had sent him a large number of new prototypes, which he obviously couldn't talk about.
Posted by bambarah
Maybe my question isn't in place
but 2011 is entering and no hint for Dual SIM from
Posted by Lollylost100
Dual-SIM phones have a small market, I don't think SE will go that way.
Posted by avmaxfan
Yea the PSP Phone is just a rumor unfortunately. Its not likely that SONY will let
use the playstation brand.
Anyways I stand by what I posted earlier. SE will announce a new Android phone soon and believe me when they do, you all will be elated
and pleasantly surprised too
Its going to be an EXTREMELY powerful device and one of the biggest launches in SE history.
P.S. I am not trolling here, just sharing what I know thats it. And you will soon get the proof when
announces this phone.
Posted by avmaxfan
And one last thing
The product I am referring to will also feature the first 12.2 MP camera on an Android phone
Posted by goldenface
That sounds exciting and I hope there is a small turnaround between announcement and launch. Any idea when it will be announced? I'm guessing early November.
Posted by gauravsali
when will be tht "soon"?
Posted by makebelieve
DoCoMo Winter2010
"SO-01c: Xperia·Android
SO-02c: Xperia·Windows Phone 7"
http://j-phone.ru/news/zima_novinki_docomo/2010-09-09-34
[ This Message was edited by: makebelieve on 2010-09-12 11:30 ]
Posted by motvikt
Love your posts avmaxfan! Brings hope here
But...
On 2010-09-10 07:00:02, avmaxfan wrote:
And as far as I know there is no 12mp Android phone coming anytime soon
On 2010-09-11 10:25:02, avmaxfan wrote:
And one last thing
The product I am referring to will also feature the first 12.2 MP camera on an Android phone
What made you change your mind?
Posted by gauravsali
what a self contradictory statemets!!!!!!!!
Posted by pavlov's_dog
hope there's no catch this time, like lack of MT and such
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
On 2010-09-12 13:05:13, motvikt wrote:
Love your posts avmaxfan! Brings hope here
But...
On 2010-09-10 07:00:02, avmaxfan wrote:
And as far as I know there is no 12mp Android phone coming anytime soon
On 2010-09-11 10:25:02, avmaxfan wrote:
And one last thing
The product I am referring to will also feature the first 12.2 MP camera on an Android phone
What made you change your mind?
I'm glad somebody else noticed that. I don't see how you can make such contradictory statements without making stuff up.
Posted by Ricky D
This rumour (not calling you a liar avmax, but till til it's announced it's a rumour) certainly sounds exciting. I just hope the design isn't too bulky.
Also, I'm pretty certain not everyone will be happy. Mobile devices are so personal and integral to everyday life nowadays that everyone's needs are different and need to be tailored to in different ways i.e. different devices.
Posted by avmaxfan
The reason behind the contradicting statements is the fact that this device I am talking about,
initially planned for an 8mp camera(it wasn't finalized then) but now its going to be a 12mp camera.
Remember that I don't get day to day news from
on what they are doing and the developments to the future devices. The earlier info I had it was supposed to be an 8mp camera, but recent info suggests that a 12.2mp cam has been finalized. 
And the 12.2 mp cam also will do 1080p video recording.
Moto and HTC are planning to come up with 1080p video recording phones by the end of the year too, so I guess
has done the right thing by including 1080p video recording[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2010-09-12 12:57 ]
Posted by avmaxfan
On 2010-09-12 12:29:11, makebelieve wrote:
DoCoMo Winter2010
"SO-01c: Xperia·Android
SO-02c: Xperia·Windows Phone 7"
http://j-phone.ru/news/zima_novinki_docomo/2010-09-09-34
[ This Message was edited by: makebelieve on 2010-09-12 11:30 ]
This correlates with whatever I shared with you guys here.
Hope that brings some hope to all of ya
fans
And the interview with SONY Computers US official suggests that these two phones won't make it to the US market so soon (like the X10 which was launched in the US only recently) So no new launches for US this year but for sure two BIG launches for the rest of the world
[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2010-09-12 13:21 ]
Posted by juris15
nice! i should sell my x10 and keep some money 
remember eldar said something about an android with 12 mp right?
[ This Message was edited by: juris15 on 2010-09-12 13:25 ]
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
On 2010-09-12 13:53:55, avmaxfan wrote:
The reason behind the contradicting statements is the fact that this device I am talking about,
initially planned for an 8mp camera(it wasn't finalized then) but now its going to be a 12mp camera.
Remember that I don't get day to day news from
on what they are doing and the developments to the future devices. The earlier info I had it was supposed to be an 8mp camera, but recent info suggests that a 12.2mp cam has been finalized.
And the 12.2 mp cam also will do 1080p video recording.
Moto and HTC are planning to come up with 1080p video recording phones by the end of the year too, so I guess
has done the right thing by including 1080p video recording
Alright mate, I don't want to accuse you of lying so we'll just hope you're right and wait it out until announcement time.
Posted by Dups!
@avmaxfan
From what has been filtered through to this point (by a few sources already) it is clear that SE are cooking up a superphone, that I don't doubt but that it will be released this year as per your posts I highly doubt, in fact, I'd wager that it will not be available this year but next year.
Posted by goldenface
Well I'm guessing the Japanese and non -Japanese version will be available within weeks of each other and if Docomo is advertising them in their winter catalogue then it will be available December - February.
BTW, did anyone notice Sharp's 14MP CCD camera phone for their winter line-up too?
[ This Message was edited by: goldenface on 2010-09-12 18:26 ]
Posted by wiraperkasa
when will the japanese winter announcement take place?so i suspect the design will be the same as the non-japanese phone. at least the X10 was like that.
Posted by goldenface
Last year's Docomo winter announcement took place on November 10th with the X10 announced on 3rd November so it looks like the first week in November again for the X10 successor.
Let's hope it launches with Froyo inside - although Gingerbread would be tastier.
[ This Message was edited by: goldenface on 2010-09-12 18:17 ]
Posted by motvikt
Yea winter probably means Q1
Posted by wiraperkasa
On 2010-09-12 19:08:53, goldenface wrote:
Last year's Docomo winter announcement took place on November 10th with the X10 announced on 3rd November so it looks like the first week in November again for the X10 successor.
Let's hope it launches with Froyo inside - although Gingerbread would be tastier.
[ This Message was edited by: goldenface on 2010-09-12 18:17 ]
the date seems reasonable.this rumours can be believable.
Posted by HxH
Dilemma for me! u make me dream of living next big thing if I put my satio on sale!
though Satio's OS feel not worthy investment enough
one thing : is it xenon equipped? avmax
Posted by badassmam
I would believe that there is a 12MP Android, its something that was mentioned a while back after the X10 Mini announcement. I would be very surprised if anything is released this year but an announcement is soon. The WP7 device should be announced as the OS is set for a mega launch (anyone see the iPhone funeral?), there are already loads of phones from other manufacturers that are due to hit stores so
have to show it off theirs.
Also, the PSPhone does exist but it really depends on what level of gaming you are looking at. That does not mean that its bad as you have seen the iPhone running the Unreal engine which is amazing so don't expect anything less. It depends on the games line up and for how long will they be available i.e. you don't want them to stop making games after a year for example. I think that if it has the quality of the original PSP in a phone with online gaming it will succeed.
In other news, Nokia asked their fans to make up a dream phone and they did a concept with all the ideas put into one which was cool. They, HTC and Samsung are announcing new stuff soon as well so September and October will be interesting for us all.
Posted by doministry
On 2010-09-12 20:01:21, badassmam wrote:
I would believe that there is a 12MP Android, its something that was mentioned a while back after the X10 Mini announcement. I would be very surprised if anything is released this year but an announcement is soon. The WP7 device should be announced as the OS is set for a mega launch (anyone see the iPhone funeral?), there are already loads of phones from other manufacturers that are due to hit stores so
have to show it off theirs.
Also, the PSPhone does exist but it really depends on what level of gaming you are looking at. That does not mean that its bad as you have seen the iPhone running the Unreal engine which is amazing so don't expect anything less. It depends on the games line up and for how long will they be available i.e. you don't want them to stop making games after a year for example. I think that if it has the quality of the original PSP in a phone with online gaming it will succeed.
In other news, Nokia asked their fans to make up a dream phone and they did a concept with all the ideas put into one which was cool. They, HTC and Samsung are announcing new stuff soon as well so September and October will be interesting for us all.
Great thanks! Very very interesting to see what
will bring to WP7. I have big hopes with this platform but. But I'm afraid of limitations.
Posted by bambarah
On 2010-09-12 18:27:28, goldenface wrote:
Well I'm guessing the Japanese and non -Japanese version will be available within weeks of each other and if Docomo is advertising them in their winter catalogue then it will be available December - February.
BTW, did anyone notice Sharp's 14MP CCD camera phone for their winter line-up too?
[ This Message was edited by: goldenface on 2010-09-12 18:26 ]
As I remember ,
won't go over 12 MP sensors , but I think they might create a strong competitor to the NOKIA N8
Guys ! It has 1/1.8" sensor
it beats hundreds of digital cameras in the market 
And one of the physical issues we have to face it has to be bulky
because the bigger the sensor the more the space it has to be between the lens and sensor prospective 
Posted by smclion102
On 2010-09-12 11:22:55, avmaxfan wrote:
Yea the PSP Phone is just a rumor unfortunately. Its not likely that SONY will let
use the playstation brand.
Anyways I stand by what I posted earlier.
As for the hardware, Engadget says:[PS PHONE]
The device is described as cross between the Samsung Captivate and the PSP Go — in other words, it’s a landscape slider with game controls in place of the typical QWERTY keyboard. The D-pad is here, but instead of the small joystick, the device will have what was described as a “long touch pad” for analog controls, along with standard PSP buttons and shoulder buttons. The phone has a large display, described as being between 3.7 and 4.1 inches with WVGA or better resolution, a 5 megapixel camera that we’re told might not be final, and it’ll likely have a 1 GHz Snapdragon CPU on board. The phone is mostly black with some silver highlights, and the gamepad area is white / silver in color.
So Y wud u think Engadget Post is not TRUE???
Posted by smclion102
^^^^
On 2010-09-12 11:22:55, avmaxfan wrote:
Yea the PSP Phone is just a rumor unfortunately. Its not likely that SONY will let
use the playstation brand.
Anyways I stand by what I posted earlier.
@ avmaxfan
Why No PS phone??
Wht Do u Say abt ENGADGET "Exclusive: Sony Ericsson to introduce Android 3.0 gaming platform and PSP Go-like smartphone"
http://www.engadget.com/2010/[....]ce-android-3-0-gaming-platfor/
Pls Reply
Posted by Ricky D
I guess
stopped with the female code names. I think the Idou/Satio name confusion probably screwed them over. It was a rubbish phone anyway.
Posted by pavlov's_dog
i think it's possible to announce the products this year. the x10 and x2 were introduced almost the same time last year, if i remember correctly. the main hurdle would be the actual launch as usual.
Posted by avmaxfan
Ok Guys some more info
1. The WP7 device is called the Xperia X11
2. The next android phone will be Xperia X12 (codename CLIARO)
Specs wise X12 will be superior to X11. This again shows that
is betting more on android then Wp7.
And as many of you guys have been expressing concern about the X12 being bulky, well it won't be bulky. It is 3mm thinner than the Xperia X10
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Someone asked about xenon flash, sorry I don't have info on that but most likely it doesn't have a xenon flash. IF it did it would have been mentioned in the specs.
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Next, the PSPhone, well there are a few reasons why the PSPhone may not be out, at least in the near future.
1. The market for a dedicated gaming phone is not huge, not sure if many would be interested in paying a lot of money for a phone meant primarily for gaming rather than media, business, social networking,camera. etc. And NO the gaming part isn't what helps sell IPhones, its just a cherry on the cake for Iphone users
2. The PSP itself has not done great as far as sales go, so highly unlikely for the PSPhone to perform better. Remember
is feeling the heat from competition and their market share is much lower than what it was once, for a company that is on its way to revival it will be stupid to launch a niche product and hope it would get them to a new level.
3. Other practical limitations and difficulties in actually making a PSPhone.
4. SONY wants the PSP2 to succeed and wouldn't want a
device eating its pie.
I am not saying it will never come, it might but will take a lot of time. Maybe in 2012 or later.
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As for the OS, X12 is running Android 2.2 Froyo
There is a slight chance that if Gingerbread or Honeycomb is announced officially by Google soon then maybe the X12s that actually hit the store maybe running 3.0 or
would go the X10 route and update the OS through a firmware update.[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2010-09-13 04:50 ]
Posted by NoTnERb
damn! the storm is coming,
don't fail us baby.
Posted by smclion102
@@ avmaxfan
Will X10 Ever Get 2.2 ???
There are few leaks abt andriod roadmap highlights for X10 family[german leak] highlighting only 2.1x OS.. wil we see 2.2 in X10 ??
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Will The X12 have 2.2/3.0 UX Platform ?? or normal 2.2/3.0??
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i agree with ur comments regrading PS phone...
Posted by HxH
One info matching from avmax, I heard
will jump through 3.0 next year (X10 most likely affect at the case Idk, if it would finish at 2.1) and if it continue timeline of X10 or better it will show off soon.
For me, I don't have any expect from
now just only hope will make a comeback after setback suffering of late update from 1.6 > 2.1
because expectation of Satio that haunting me now.
bit of disappointed that
introduce 12.2MP to andriod but no xenon
but it okay because usage of xenon maybe need some more time to tweak performance
thinner than old about 3mm Interesting! how
will design as camera-orient
don't be serious guys!
p.s. thanks to avmax to let me know of good next big thing, my spirit almost death after last disappointed of satio!
Posted by avmaxfan
@smclion102
X10 will most probably not get 2.2.
I haven't checked the leaked article but yes it seems that 2.1 will be the last OS update to the X10 family.
And that is the reason that
have backported some features from Android 2.2 to the 2.1 update for X10.
And as for the X12 it will be running a 2.2 UX platform. A highly modified UI this time, significantly more than on the X10. Timescape and Mediascape remain with the addition of another new UI.
@HxH
Well another reason for not including Xenon also has to do with the bulk, as a powerful Xenon flash would make it ergonomically awkward like the SATIO. And since they have the device at only 10mm thin, it was not possible to fit a Xenon flash.
[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2010-09-13 05:43 ]
Posted by Ricky D
OK so not blulky, what about other form factor highlights. Any sliding parts, please god do not be a slider.
The thickness of the X10 is just right for me. I think if it's thinner AND had a 12MP cam the optics must be terrible. The sensor must be smaller than a gnats left ball meaning poor quality, either that or they'll have to cram in some ingenious engineering for the cam. I hope I'm wrong. 8MP was enough. 12MP is just a c**k-size competition winner with a shrunken ruler.
Posted by pavlov's_dog
i'm not being a troll or anything. I just hope we don't see another x10 scenario. if x12 is released with 2.2, while everybody else is running 3.x, i don't think it'd be very good for
.
Posted by smclion102
@ avmaxfan
When Can We Expect X11 n X12 Announcement??
Posted by avmaxfan
@ RickyD
It is a similar formfactor as the X10. No slider. X11 is a slider though.
Same 4 inch screen, this time with AMOLED and resolution higher than Iphone4 and pretty much everything else.
Well I cannot comment on the quality of the camera but I can assure you its not going to be bad. And Sony is quite an expert at making things smaller yet keep them powerful. For eg. VAIO Z, it weighs just 3 pounds but is faster than almost every laptop out there and keeps up with any Core I7 Gaming Dekstop in performance (not gaming, application performance)
So the X12 might just be another clever engineering feat from Sony.
@smclion102
Announcement likely in early November.
@Pavlov's dog
Nope that won't be the scenario. X12 will be one of the first, if not THE first phone to get the next version of Android (not specifying 3.0 as its not confirmed yet) It will most likely be the first device with the new OS
[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2010-09-13 05:57 ]
Posted by Legen
On 2010-09-13 06:50:20, pavlov's_dog wrote:
i'm not being a troll or anything. I just hope we don't see another x10 scenario. if x12 is released with 2.2, while everybody else is running 3.x, i don't think it'd be very good for
.
i agree. and how does the xperia naming scheme work? windows phones have been X1, X2...nw X12?
Posted by pavlov's_dog
Am I hearing 720p?
Dual core 1.2GHz Snapdragon should also be there as a minimum. But I won't get my hopes too high on a very good battery life though.
Posted by avmaxfan
On 2010-09-13 06:59:23, Legen wrote:
On 2010-09-13 06:50:20, pavlov's_dog wrote:
i'm not being a troll or anything. I just hope we don't see another x10 scenario. if x12 is released with 2.2, while everybody else is running 3.x, i don't think it'd be very good for
.
i agree. and how does the xperia naming scheme work? windows phones have been X1, X2...nw X12?
Its X11, not X12.
X11 is the Windows Phone 7 Xperia
X12 is the Android 2.2 Xperia
Posted by pavlov's_dog
On 2010-09-13 06:59:23, Legen wrote:
On 2010-09-13 06:50:20, pavlov's_dog wrote:
i'm not being a troll or anything. I just hope we don't see another x10 scenario. if x12 is released with 2.2, while everybody else is running 3.x, i don't think it'd be very good for
.
i agree. and how does the xperia naming scheme work? windows phones have been X1, X2...nw X12?
X3 is already taken....by Nokia.
Posted by avmaxfan
On 2010-09-13 07:00:23, pavlov's_dog wrote:
Am I hearing 720p?
Dual core 1.2GHz Snapdragon should also be there as a minimum. But I won't get my hopes too high on a very good battery life though.
Yup 1080x720 AMOLED screen
And the Xperia X11 runs a Qualcomm 1.2 ghz processor. The X12 though
runs a TI 1.5 ghz processor.[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2010-09-13 06:08 ]
Posted by pavlov's_dog
that sound really nice on paper. we'll all find out very soon.
Is there MULTI TOUCH? I think that is a very important point for a lot of people.[ This Message was edited by: pavlov's_dog on 2010-09-13 06:13 ]
Posted by Legen
On 2010-09-13 07:01:51, pavlov's_dog wrote:
On 2010-09-13 06:59:23, Legen wrote:
On 2010-09-13 06:50:20, pavlov's_dog wrote:
i'm not being a troll or anything. I just hope we don't see another x10 scenario. if x12 is released with 2.2, while everybody else is running 3.x, i don't think it'd be very good for
.
i agree. and how does the xperia naming scheme work? windows phones have been X1, X2...nw X12?
X3 is already taken....by Nokia.
stupid Nokia...
[ This Message was edited by: Legen on 2010-09-13 06:16 ]
Posted by rss_ndrsn
^Does X12 have Plasma Flash™ like the one on SOO3? It may not be as powerful as Xenon Flash but Plasma Flash™ is definitely better than photo flash on most SE phones.
Also, I hope X12 have liquid lens. That's the only type of lens that despite of thin body, can still produce quality photos.
And how about the screen avmax? What is the screen resolution and size? Will it have about 326 dpi?