Posted by synn
I guess WP7 appeals to people like me who love to stay connected all the time. I'm using Android right now and I like how my phonebook contacts can be linked to fb ones. WP7 should ideally let this do and not add the tonnes of people on your fb friend list that you talk to like, once a year. This way, the people hub can act like a personalized fb stream with info from people you're most in touch with.
Posted by doministry
On 2010-07-24 14:55:13, synn wrote:
I guess WP7 appeals to people like me who love to stay connected all the time. I'm using Android right now and I like how my phonebook contacts can be linked to fb ones. WP7 should ideally let this do and not add the tonnes of people on your fb friend list that you talk to like, once a year. This way, the people hub can act like a personalized fb stream with info from people you're most in touch with.
Actually this is not interesting feature as for me.....
But you're right, regarding the market - very good thing indeed.
Posted by korbindallis
On 2010-07-22 23:35:40, juris15 wrote:
i dont think so... Microsoft confirms Windows Phone 7 manufacturers: ASUS, Dell, HTC, LG, and Samsung all on board
They didnt mention
...
edit: or at least this year
Greg Sullivan, senior product manager for Microsoft, told Pocket-lint that we could expect handsets from Dell, Asus, LG, HTC, and Samsung at the launch later this year.
http://www.pocket-lint.com/ne[....]indows-phone-7-launch-partners
[ This Message was edited by: juris15 on 2010-07-22 22:38 ]
this was taken form WPC10 presentation
is there but may be not this year
[ This Message was edited by: korbindallis on 2010-07-26 12:58 ]
Posted by doministry
^Sure but also remember HP is already out because they announced beeing devoted to WebOS.
SE will be there but probably later.
Hoping for amazing device with a good design.
Samsung, LG and HTC look really ugly.
Posted by dr.W
Is there anything new out there about that 5 (5.5?)" android phone with the sliding and tilting QWERTY keyboard? Is this really going to be released or just a prototype that will never be made? I'm hoping its real, but haven't heard much about it since the pictures came out well over a month ago.
Thanks
Posted by motvikt
Does anybody know if snapdragon has a successor? feeling worried SE wont use it in X11 and get run over by HTC...
[ This Message was edited by: motvikt on 2010-07-29 18:23 ]
Posted by goldenface
I fear that they'll still be playing catch up for the rest of the year.
I'm not really expecting any more high ends. Hopefully this means the talent at Sony and Ericsson are conjuring up something magical which will be revealed this winter.
It will be strange if SE don't announce a hero phone in the run up to the Christmas season.
Posted by TJMonkey15
On 2010-07-29 22:19:26, goldenface wrote:
Hopefully this means the talent at Sony and Ericsson are conjuring up something magical which will be revealed this winter.
And then released in summer 2011....
Posted by 10123
have said them-selves that the Xperia line-up is complete for the year, however I expect an announcment of several new colours for the X10, to tie in with the release of Android 2.1 and 720p.
Posted by doministry
Well observing everything WP7 related,
I'm not surprised
is not in such a hurry.
Apparently OS is very impressive in many areas,
but has limitations
is probably not happy about.
I just saw big part of the camera in WP7 and looks like
there's no confirmation all of the usual
camera features will be supported.
Customization is also very limited.
Symbian in reverse is so behind in many areas.
Posted by motvikt
On 2010-08-01 16:43:49, doministry wrote:
Well observing everything WP7 related,
I'm not surprised
is not in such a hurry.
Apparently OS is very impressive in many areas,
but has limitations
is probably not happy about.
I just saw big part of the camera in WP7 and looks like
there's no confirmation all of the usual
camera features will be supported.
Customization is also very limited.
Symbian in reverse is so behind in many areas.
Actually the camera functions can be customized
http://www.youtube.com/watch?[....]3BTU&feature=player_embedded#!
around 2mins
Posted by daviep
any news of high-end s.e. cam phones such as 12mp+ with xenon or any other 12mp models with maybe android?
Posted by semo
A very interesting between-the-lines comment by Eldar from M-R on his Spillikins#78 (russian). He says that, recently a large amount of Sony Ericsson phones came to him and he had to spend time examining them. He says that the next announcement will be very interesting, but release will take long time.
Seems like SE will do it again, like the last years.
Posted by se_love
On 2010-08-02 21:34:56, semo wrote:
A very interesting between-the-lines comment by Eldar from M-R on his Spillikins#78 (russian). He says that, recently a large amount of Sony Ericsson phones came to him and he had to spend time examining them. He says that the next announcement will be very interesting, but release will take long time.
Seems like SE will do it again, like the last years.
Posted by frankroger
What about JULIE? Do someone have more information about this rumour? Upcoming WM7 device with qwerty...
Posted by wiraperkasa
maybe eldar is overwhelm by the rumored 5inch phone/tablet phone?!
Posted by badassmam
Off topic but dual core processors coming to HTC phones soon. There is a Desire HD coming as well which is a Desire with unibody design like the Legend but the extra power and higher specs.
Also, earlier this year Samsung released an mp3 player with a transparent colour touch screen. They are now making a tablet with a transparent colour touch screen which is double sided meaning that you can input by pressing the back of the screen as well as the front. Its like the Moto Backflip with that track pad on the back except you can see your fingers through the screen so its way more accurate. I'd love to see that on a phone, it would be the same as Tony Stark's mobile which was cool.
We could see an
announcement in September, a few devices to be unveiled but all for 2011 release. High end stuff as well (more than one) so its worth getting excited about. If we say that one is likely to be the WP7 device, the other(s) should be........
Posted by motvikt
On 2010-08-04 23:13:17, badassmam wrote:
Off topic but dual core processors coming to HTC phones soon. There is a Desire HD coming as well which is a Desire with unibody design like the Legend but the extra power and higher specs.
Also, earlier this year Samsung released an mp3 player with a transparent colour touch screen. They are now making a tablet with a transparent colour touch screen which is double sided meaning that you can input by pressing the back of the screen as well as the front. Its like the Moto Backflip with that track pad on the back except you can see your fingers through the screen so its way more accurate. I'd love to see that on a phone, it would be the same as Tony Stark's mobile which was cool.
We could see an
announcement in September, a few devices to be unveiled but all for 2011 release. High end stuff as well (more than one) so its worth getting excited about. If we say that one is likely to be the WP7 device, the other(s) should be........
thx for the info
dunno how SE gonna keep up with sammy and HTC. Seems like they are spitting out new models. They need to make a satio2 with android to stand out from the crowd
Posted by goldenface
If we are only going to see any announced phones early next year then we are due for an announcement soon. Nice to learn that it's something to get excited about.
They still have a lot of catching up to do.
Posted by FMW300
What about that new touchscreen Cyber-shot posted under Rumors? Fake?
[ This Message was edited by: FMW300i on 2010-08-05 11:12 ]
Posted by drinki
Posted by goldenface
Looks very fake to me. I don't think SE would release a phone like that now.
Posted by rss_ndrsn
SE should forget about Walkman and Cybershot series for their high-end phones. People nowadays do not buy high-end smartphone solely because of its photographic or music capabilities but the combination of both, it's all about convergence. Beside, these two lines have died long time ago and SE should not bother reviving them. Xperia and Entertainment Unlimited are good enough high-end series for SE. Leave the Walkman and Cybershot to low-end.
[ This Message was edited by: rss_ndrsn on 2010-08-05 16:51 ]
Posted by rss_ndrsn
I would expect no high-end phone from SE next year with less than the following features:
-32 GB MoviNand internal memory, microSDXC memory card slot
-1080p video recording @30 fps, stereo sound
-Plasma flash instead of Xenon and Dual LED flashes
-4" 720p capacitive SLCD screen with 16 million colors and multi-touch support, at least 326 DPI
-Two stereo speakers and mics (and another one for noise cancellation)
-gyroscope
-HSPA+ up to 21mbps or 42mbps
-microHDMI (Acer Stream, which has just been released, is the first mobile phone to have this type of connector)
-Bluetooth 4.0
-Secondary front-facing camera
-1.5 ghz ARM 8 dual core processor, 1 GB RAM, 2 GB ROM
-Built-in headset-free FM Radio with RDS, FM Transmitter
-plus the common features - microUSB 2.0, 3.5 mm jack, etc.
Samsung for sure will have smartphones with better hardware specification than this, but at least SE will stand a chance if they incorporate these features into their high-end smartphones.
[ This Message was edited by: rss_ndrsn on 2010-08-05 17:28 ]
Posted by FMW300
Looks very fake to me. I don't think SE would release a phone like that now.
Not that one, the pic at the start of the thread 'Soon Announcement.'
Posted by rss_ndrsn
^It is fake.
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
Even if it was real, it's styling is closer to SE's styling in the C905 days, not the X10 and Vivaz days we're currently in the middle of. That says to me that if it exists, it is a canceled prototype.
It certainly looks fake.
Posted by doministry
@badassmam
As usual thank you for info.
I hope this WP7 device will be at least as good in design as X1/X2.
And will have a qwerty. At least as good as on X2.
The question is also about DPad/navipad........
Posted by Ultimus
On 2010-08-05 18:09:29, rss_ndrsn wrote:
I would expect no high-end phone from SE next year with less than the following features:
[Lots of bullet points]
Samsung for sure will have smartphones with better hardware specification than this, but at least SE will stand a chance if they incorporate these features into their high-end smartphones.
[ This Message was edited by: rss_ndrsn on 2010-08-05 17:28 ]
Really, you don't seem to know what you're talking about. You're just listing a load of buzz words and numbers... BlueTooth 4.0, really? Isn't that just BlueTooth 3.0 with an added low power profile for certain specialized uses? 720p on a phone, really? The DPI will be insane and I don't think any modern phone OS currently would run on it... That resolution alone would be a hell for SE software engineers to rebuild or retool lots of apps or even an entire OS to make the most of it and apps in the app stores would not use the resolution... Plus, power usage would be higher too...
Seriously, all those numbers and specs don't mean anything in today's market to the average customer.
SE has other priorities in my opinion and the most important one is software. They can't even get Android 2.1 out fast enough, and let's not start about Android 2.2. For their next high end phone, they should make sure it'll run Android 3.0 Gingerbread well enough at launch or close to launch. Until they can bring that, they should make sure that any phone that can't run Android 3.0 hardware wise, should run Android 2.2 from now on.
Phones until Android3.0 should include specs close to or slightly higher than X10 with a 3-4 inch display and a nice camera imo. Most importantly, all newly announced Android phones should run at least Android 2.2 from now on.
[ This Message was edited by: Ultimus on 2010-08-06 17:02 ]
Posted by badassmam
@doministry
The 'X3' should have a qwerty since its the only attractive feature of the X1 and X2 that fooled some into buying the damn things, me included. I would imagine that it will look more like the Vivaz Pro with human curvature design for example. There are certain things that they cannot change much due to the OS and I'm not sure if that includes the qwerty as well i.e. does it have to have certain features. So far we have seen the LG Panther qwerty which look quite basic so we don't know if certain buttons would work for example, if there is a shortcut for SMS/MMS like on the HTC Touch Pro 2.
@Ultimus
You're right, big numbers and specs are often outdone by fashion and cool. Apple seems to ship their phones with 'happy' which is why they do well. More importantly, hardware means nothing if the software is crap so
should totally ditch 2.1 and dive into 2.2 for the X10. The difference between 1.6 and 2.1 is big but its not so bad between 2.1 and 2.2 nevertheless, they should get with the times. Its like buying this year's ManU kit and having 'Ronaldo' on the back, it clearly looks better on a Madrid shirt. Just look at how many cameras are on him now and how many new fans he has as well.
Posted by rss_ndrsn
@ULtimus
I think you are the one who does not know what you're talking about. Android Gingerbread will support resolution up to 720p, you can validate that once it is announced later this year.
About the Bluetooth 4.0, why would SE use Bluetooth 3.0 when a slightly better version is available with not that much of a price difference? Does it make any sense at all? Definitely not. It is like why not just stay with Bluetooth 2.0 instead of using the 2.1 version. We are talking about "high-end phones" here.
If you want a device with slightly better processor than X10, then you do not have to wait until next year just to buy one. You can just go grab Samsung Galaxy S I9000 or Motorola DroidX as both will get the Froyo update soon and have "slightly better" CPU than X10, not to mention iPhone 4 (if you're looking for a non-Android device). Seriously, the success of a device does not depend solely just on the software and coolness factor, but on the "overall package," meaning great set of top-end features that are functioning well, backed up by strong hardware components and great software implementation with an uber cool design.
The features I wrote on that post you replied to, are what could be the standard features set of a 2011 high end device. You can bet on that. Some of the features I wrote like the microHDMI v1.4 is already incorporated in Acer Stream and soon microSDXC will appear in the market. So I am not just making a list of features with no factual basis. I got them all from the current set of features that are incorporated on most high-end phones this year.
IF SE will follow the same ideologies as yourself and Badassman, they are just going to catch up everytime. SE will never get its glorious days back. Because nowadays, every manufacturer can get what the others have. The best thing SE can do is to get along and try to get ahead when they see an opportunity.
[ This Message was edited by: rss_ndrsn on 2010-08-07 04:37 ]
Posted by badassmam
@rss_ndrsn
There was a time where
were top but that was ages ago. The X1 was the ultimate phone with the best specs available but its software crippled it. Back then, people would go for the name Cyber-Shot or Walkman and they are trying to rebuild that image. They are not great financially so for them to make a mega device like the one you describe is a major risk.
The current line up apart from the X2 is smart and safe. The X2 has good enough hardware but its buggy like hell and with its price, a big gamble and a big loss for
The X10 may be behind in certain aspects but it was a good decision to make it because its following the current trend and as a result, is doing well. The X10 Minis and Vivazs are good ideas also so despite them being quite average on paper, they should do OK.
At the big boy meetings they look at the market and finances to set a target, after that they decide if they need a high end device or not. They don't design whatever innovative product and sell it, other factors set the limit on the phone. If they decided that the X10 would be sold at £700 at launch then they would have made the perfect phone but it had limits set and this is the best they could do for it. For you to justify your device would be hard because its a risk and its not necessary.
My opinion is that a phone like my Desire is as good as it gets. Maybe next year it will have a better camera but otherwise it does everything I want it to do and very well. Putting a 1.5Ghz processor won't appeal to me because I don't need it likewise features such as bluetooth 4.0.
Its very tough to run a big company like
and even harder making decisions that could loss them millions. The next announcement will according to my source, have at least two high end devices and maybe a couple of mid rangers. Don't worry about playing top trumps with the specs, look at the device on a whole and that way you should be impressed.
Posted by FMW300
2 hi-end devices - WP7 Qwerty(Julie) & leaked Android Qwerty?
Mid-rangers - not leaked yet I guess (soon, hopefully).
Posted by mediar
Android Qwerty
Can you give pictures?
Posted by motvikt
On 2010-08-07 18:37:54, FMW300i wrote:
2 hi-end devices - WP7 Qwerty(Julie) & leaked Android Qwerty?
Mid-rangers - not leaked yet I guess (soon, hopefully).
If the "qwerty android" (guess you mean the 5inch) is the only highend android im gonna get pissed. I want a x11 (or x20 or whatever). Thought x10 was a failure and I wont trade my iphone for something with crippled hardware.
Posted by se_dude
Crippled hardware?Failure? Ermm. I dont think so.
Posted by motvikt
On 2010-08-07 19:16:04, se_dude wrote:
Crippled hardware?Failure? Ermm. I dont think so.
Sorry, I meant the lack of multitouch (its very important for me, games and zoom). At least here in Sweden it hasnt done that good. Desire is selling alot better and it pisses me of because MT is the main reason.
But I guess failure isnt the right word.. "Not as good as it could have sold" maybe is a better way of putting it
Posted by rss_ndrsn
@Badassmam
IF SE is afraid to take the risk, they will not go far. As I have said many times before, all they are going to do is catching up with other manufacturers. Unless they want a big change in their situation right now, they have to make big decisions and take big risks. That is the device with the specification I mentioned on my last post.
Next year will be even harder for SE, even this year is quite tough for SE as their so-called high-end phone X10 is overshadowed by iPhone 4, Samsung Galaxy S and HTC Desire (not even a flagship phone) in sales, as the usual top guns will released better and more powerful devices. Plus Nokia, who is coming back in the scene with high-end MeeGO to be released later this year. For sure, the Nokia MeeGO will be a feature-packed phone based on the comment of Nokia's top official about N8 positioning it as a high-end to mid-range smartphone than a high-end one. We both know N8 spec is monstruous and I can't imagine what will the MeeGo spec be.
If you look at the spec sheet that I made, it is not even over-the-top as most of the features there are had been incorporated into the smartphones of today already. The only things new are the dual-core processor, 720p screen, 1080p video recording, 1 GB RAM, microSDXC, and 32 GB moviNand memory. The last two should not be even considered as to be that new as there have been phones with 32 GB internal memory since 2008, and we may see the first phone that support microSDXC later this year. The 1080p video recording and 1 GB RAM are normal to be expected from 2011 devices because the trend seems to go that way. The other hardware parts, and features like Bluetooth 4 will appear later this year in some devices. The microHDMI can be already be seen on Acer Stream. Nexus One, iPhone 4 and Motorola Droid X all of them have dual mics with noise cancellation technology. Nokia have included FM Radio with RDS and FM Transmitter since N95 which is a 2007 device. So how hard is it going to be to incorporate all of these features into one device?
Taking a trip down memory lane, most of the iconic devices in mobile phone history are high-end phones. Starting with Nokia 6600, which sold almost 10 million worldwide and had an initial price of €600. The features were VGA camera, Bluetooth, Infrared, etc. Next, of course is the Sony Ericsson P800, the trend-setter of its time. This phone was a commercial success despite of high price and SE's saviour during the very hard first few years of the merger. It is essential to note that even Steve Job seems to be very fond of P800. Who will forget the N95? When it was first announced in September of 2006, every one was in awe. It was the first phone to combine 5.0 megapixel camera plus VGA recording @ 30 fps, GPS, 2.6 screen, dual-slide mechanism design, accelometer, 3G, video editing software and new version of S60. The high price did not stop it from selling well and Nokia even released another version which is N95 8Gb. The successes of these high-end phones clearly show the importance of high-end specification in attaining commercial success of smartphones.
With SE, I know it is make-or-break, but that is the risk they have to take if they want to attain success. Next year is competition is about to get tougher as we will see a lot of high-end devices running on Android and Windows Mobile 7. Plus, the new player, MeeGo and the reviving Symbian. But if SE incorporate those features that I mentioned, they would stand a chance. That list is a perfect combination of feature set for next year. Then, get the design right and implement the software good, SE have success written all over that device. We have seen the commercial successes of Nokia 6600, the Legend Sony Ericsson P800 and the impeccable Nokia N95 which were mainly due to their high-end specification. It is hard to look at a device in whole and tell it will sell well if one of the essential features is missing.
[ This Message was edited by: rss_ndrsn on 2010-08-07 21:10 ]
Posted by badassmam
@rss_ndrsn
I totally agree with what you're saying but it takes balls to release such products when they are just starting to get back on track. The things you have put in your list are all reasonable features for a phone but I think there is way more to lose than gain. After the Nokia N95, the N96 didn't do that well but Nokia got away with it. Moto after the Razr almost died and only now they are getting up to speed.
Anyways, I think there is the X10a release tomorrow so yee ha to you guys. WP7 devices going through the FCC in numbers so the launch is coming soon which means our Xperia should show up as well.
Posted by rss_ndrsn
^I do not see any reason why SE can't release that kind of phone. Look at Motorola, they were in a very bad situation compared to SE last year but still they managed to come up with Droid, which has been a commercial success even up to now. Just last month, Droid X has been announced and released quickly. We both know the specification of the Droid X and we sure can both agree it is a very high spec phone. In fact, that's where I got some of the features I think SE should incorporate to the their next year's high-end phone.
Do you see where I am getting at? Motorola wanted to stop the losses so they made a move to bring the company up again, by making great Android phone portfolio that includes top end smartphones. Kudos to them. Their bad situation last year did not stop them from making monstruous-spec'ed smartphones. They even plan of releasing an Android phone with 2 Ghz Processor. You can clearly see Motorola's determination to gain back what they lost. Motorola sure got some balls.
How about SE? They make a phone with a great design, great camera and processor but forget to include multi-touch, an essential feature of smartphone today. They also seem to choose a crappy OS, and refuse to give kinetic scrolling to the whole UI when the OS allows it. With SE, their high-end phones seem to lack one or two essential features, of all the features! When SE is going to show the world what it has become since the merger in 2003. SE have to release a high-end smartphone with really top-end specification like they did in 2003, when they set the trend of smartphone with the P800.
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
On 2010-08-09 01:47:05, badassmam wrote:
I totally agree with what you're saying but it takes balls to release such products when they are just starting to get back on track.
SE came from nothing back in 2001 to wow people with the P800, T610, S700 and so on. I don't see why they can't make a 'ballsy' decision now like they must have done back then. I would say they are in a better position now after the X10 release than back after the merger for releasing an absolute killer phone.
Posted by motvikt
Hope the SE WP7 phone is good looking because then they can really sell. HTC schubert is f-ing ugly. Cant imagine sammy being better either
[ This Message was edited by: motvikt on 2010-08-09 11:17 ]
Posted by bronxdude
whats next for EU phones?
Posted by doministry
What's that?
http://www.sonystyle.com/weba[....]&storeId=10151&catalogId=10551
Posted by motvikt
On 2010-08-09 13:56:52, doministry wrote:
What's that?
http://www.sonystyle.com/weba[....]&storeId=10151&catalogId=10551
X10 USA launch
Posted by goldenface
I've a feeling another 12MP camphone will be announced soon. Let's hope it's Android.
Posted by Consumology
Are those just pure feelings or maybe a little more...?
Posted by ^^HAMID^^
damn these days!
when is the next announcement ?
something galaxy killer:D
Posted by rss_ndrsn
I feel quite different. I am sensing another high-end device which is not so high-end and lacks another essential feature/s. It would be a great addition to SE's line of high-end phones to moan about.
Posted by tranced
Exclusive: Sony Ericsson to introduce Android 3.0 gaming platform and PSP Go-like handset
Here's what we can tell you about the hardware: if you're a gaming fan, this is exactly the kind of phone you've been waiting for. The device is described as cross between the Samsung Captivate and the PSP Go -- in other words, it's a landscape slider with game controls in place of the typical QWERTY keyboard. The D-pad is here, but instead of the small joystick, the device will have what was described as a "long touch pad" for analog controls, along with standard PSP buttons and shoulder buttons. The phone has a large display, described as being between 3.7- and 4.1-inches with WVGA or better resolution, a 5 megapixel camera we're told might not be final, and will likely have a 1GHz Snapdragon CPU on-board. The phone is mostly black with some silver highlights, and the gamepad area is white / silver in color. Apparently it's currently branded as an Xperia device, but it looks like it will carry PlayStation branding as well. Those who've seen the phone say it looks "pretty damn sexy." The mockup above probably doesn't do the actual hardware justice, but it should give you an idea of what you'll be dealing with.
On the software side, it looks like the device will be running Gingerbread (Android 3.0) with a phone-specific skin, and there will be a new area of the Android Market specifically for the games. That content will be initially accessible only by the halo device, but from the sounds of things, these titles might be made available to other Android phones if their specs and button layouts meet requirements. Games will be graphically in the range of PSX or PSP games, meaning true 3D gaming is headed to Android. Titles currently being shown off seem to be focused around some older PSX as well as new PSP offerings, with God of War, Modern Warfare, and Little Big Planet on tap, and future plans for titles which incorporate augmented reality features.