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Posted by moogoo
just downloaded doubletwist music player. great app cause it gives you playlists and best of all, lock screen controls! poweramp is great too.. i've used both.

i simply can't wait for gingerbread. i can't wait to see the speed improvements.


Posted by doellied2
thanks dude

Posted by arcmhyke
is X10 still worth buying? specially it will be updated to 2.3

I am Considering X10 and Neo for my Next Phone

X10 Cost $330 only and Neo Cost $525 a very big difference in price, although X10 may not have Bravia Engine, Exmor R Sensor, True Multi Touch Sensor and Lower GPU compared to new Xperia Lineup

but X10 got bigger screen and large 1g ROM vs Neo

and i have a few questions about X10 Dual Touch, does it works fine in most Games? specially First Person Shooter or any game requires atleast 2 touch.
[ This Message was edited by: mhyke on 2011-05-17 10:17 ]


Posted by Ricky D
X10 DT will probably not work as well as you want it to in games. It will zoom in and out fine with pinch-zoom but anything requiring things like holding one finger on and tapping with another finger won't work so great i.e. not at all, also anything that require the axis of the two touch points to cross each other won't work perfectly, sometimes the axis will get confused depending on what you're doing.

If the front facing cam is not a concern to you I'd consider arc. The spec is more or less the same as neo only the front cam is missing, it has a nicer design and bigger screen, other differences are quite minor. If cost is more of an issue I have an X10i up for sale at a reasonable price.

Posted by lewko
mhyke*
I bought X10 right after the 2.3 update announcement. The price was 230Eur for a brand new device with guarantee. I am quite fond of the phone, dual touch works fine, but I personally find the "SE zooming" better. One finger only, hold it for a moment when looking at a picture then move upwards for zoom in, downwards for zoom out. To me works better than pinch zoom. The screen is quite power hungry, but has a superb sun readability, the best i have seen around for years. Although overall it is hard for me to judge the screen against NEO as I didn't have a chance to compare. One thing i would be a bit worried about NEO screen is the gap between LCD and touch panel, but again, cannot serve with any direct observations. Speed and stability of the phone is just fine. I use Adv.task killer, but use it very very rarely as the phone can manage the applications good. I turned off timescape and most of the automatic updates, use facebook for android instead and that works for me very well. Installed "Arc homescreen and widgets". I didn't root the phone and i dont intend to. With 2.3 update around the corner for me, as a standard user, just no need. Most of the things the 2.1 lacks from stock i can have with apps (imediashare is just great DLNA server, pda net for GPRS modem...).
Overall i consider my X10 a great value for money, with probably not loosing too much when selling it next year and going for Arc or SE dualcore solution (surely they pack one out).
And if can squeeze Ricky D a bit, I am sure he will give you a good price.

Posted by Bonovox
Anyone seen this video yet??
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhR5sIy2Wr4

Posted by tobias84
Anyone know a good app for backup contacts before upgrade to 2.3? I haven't rooted my phone and Iam not gonna do it either.

Posted by Ricky D
@tobias84 Google will sync your contacts up if you tell it to, I've not had to think about backing pu contacts for a long time thanks to google
[ This Message was edited by: Ricky D on 2011-05-18 10:02 ]


Posted by fjcarlsson

On 2011-05-18 10:14:19, tobias84 wrote:
Anyone know a good app for backup contacts before upgrade to 2.3? I haven't rooted my phone and Iam not gonna do it either.



I use MyPhoneExplorer, Google's backup didn't do me any favours so I've turned off syncing with that crap.

Posted by lewko
to tobias84 ->

I dont do google/facebook synch. I Like my contacts private and separated.

Two "hardways" I recommend:
- simply go to phonebook, then press "menu" button, "more items", and "backup contacts". What the phone does, it stores all your contacts as .vcf files on SD card, including all details. After upgrade, just go back the same way, but press "import contacts" and you will have it back on your phone.

- Transfer your ALL your contacts via bluetooth to another phone (i have used my old N5530). Same thing happens, e.g. the phone will send all your contacts as .vcf files to the other phone (BTW. This much more usefull when transfering contacts from any another phone to X10). Then send all contacts back to X10 after upgrade. It receives and saves all .vcf files on SD card (folder "bluetooth") and again if you let "import contacts" to phonebook, X10 will find those on SD card.

Posted by Bonovox
Today I walked into a second hand phone shop which buys & sells phones. I seen an x10 for £120 & it was in AS NEW condition!! I was shocked how great it looked & could not resist but to buy it There was not a single mark or scratch on it & it still had the factory screen protector on!! Excellent bargain. I have had the x10 before but sometimes you realise something is still good & at such a cheap price & great condition I could not say no

Posted by arcmhyke
@RickyD
ah thanks for the info, Arc is very expensive, and i do like mid range phones, they can be easily replaced if i want a new phone
even though i like to buy your x10, we are very far to each other and delivery charge and customs fee will make your X10i for a price of an ARC

@Lewko
right now i have x8, and its rooted and i have made some modifications in it, i was just wandering if ever i bought an x10 right now, having in mind that it will be updated to 2.3 and this will be the final update for x10(according to SE, and we are thankful that they will update it to 2.3), i am having second thoughts, and the hardware cant really keep up, specially playing MT games, just like RickyD said, i do play alot , the price right now is just hard to resist

@Bonovox
I too always visit some buy and sell phone shops, and hoping that an x10 just like what you saw that someone might sell it for that kind of price

Posted by goldenface
@mhyke

What MT games have been playing, can you recommend any?

Thanks

Posted by arcmhyke

On 2011-05-19 13:15:53, goldenface wrote:
@mhyke

What MT games have been playing, can you recommend any?

Thanks



Sure, although Im Just using Stock X8 and JiT only, and i cannot say they are 100%, although X8 have a Fake Dual Touch, it is still hard to play. IL rate each game i play based on the performance on my X8, but im sure if you are going to play this on X10, you'll have a better experience
>Large Screen
>More Ram
>More CPU power
>Dual Touch: as long as you know the limitation and the Dual Touch That it will not get confused or act strange

Modern Combat: Sandstorm = It is playable without multi touch, so you cannot run and fire at the same time. 8/10

Brothers in Arms 2 = Same as Above, but more LAG in stock SE Software, some people who installed custom rom 2.2, reportedly said that the lag is Bearable. 6/10

NOVA = same as above. 7/10

Contract Killer = Very Nice Game, sometimes it will need Dual Touch if you want to shoot a target, but not necessarily all the time and no Lags at all 9/10

HawX = Some Bearable Lags in some stages, specially when a lot of enemies infront of you at the same time, cannot maneuver and shoot at the same time. 8/10

Super Knock Out Boxing = Some special Moves or basic moves need dual Touch. 7/10

Toy Shop Story = No Diagonal Jump, so its hard to jump from one place to another. 7/10

Assassins Creed = there's a special apk that the jump button is mapped to hardware keys so no problem finishing the game 10/10

Pro Evolution Soccer/Real Football 2011 = Shoot while Running is not possible or very hard. 8/10

Heavy Gunner = there's a mode where you can select Unitouch/Multi Touch. 9/10

Gangsstar West Coast Hustle = cannot shoot while running, etc but still playable 8/10

Demon Hunter = hard to jump diagonal. or do some cool combo. 7/10

Meteor Blitz = Hard to Shoot while Evading. 7/10

DJ Rivals = just like DDR games. 5/10

Guerilla Bob = sometimes i can shoot while running, like a bug. 8/10

i don't know what i miss , i hope someone here can share his experience with these games that requires multi touch/dual touch
[ This Message was edited by: mhyke on 2011-05-19 14:24 ]


Posted by goldenface
Thanks a lot. I'll probably play them on the XPlay too and see how they perform.

Posted by Bonovox
@Bonovox
I too always visit some buy and sell phone shops, and hoping that an x10 just like what you saw that someone might sell it for that kind of price

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Yes,& I only sold my last white x10 cos it had dust under it's screen which pissed me off. It's not heard of on the x10 as I am aware of But this one is like new & I was lucky!! The Arc was a let down for me
[ This Message was edited by: Bonovox on 2011-05-19 15:31 ]


Posted by goldenface
Gingerbread coming next week to the UK

http://www.electricpig.co.uk/[....]e-hits-arc-and-play-next-week/

Posted by Bonovox
Will all the menus look the same as Arc??
[ This Message was edited by: Bonovox on 2011-05-19 19:00 ]


Posted by goldenface


Posted by Bonovox
Like I just asked will everything be similar to the Arc menus & widgets??

Posted by goldenface
I would imagine so.

Actually, I've read that article again and the wording is not certain that it is next week is it?

Posted by Tsepz_GP
Are you sure Goldenface? Reading through that it appears the update next week is for Play and Arc.

Posted by goldenface
Yeah. I think it might be coming later.

Posted by Bonovox


Posted by echo.shane
i dont understand the colours in the x10 is it 16K or 16M.
If 16k is the colour awful?

Posted by mange69
@echo.s
Isn't it 64k? It looks good to me...


Posted by arcmhyke
Got some few questions
1.>How much is Total Ram and User Available on stock 2.1? is it 512 total and 384 user or 384 total and xxx user?
2.>65k colors or 16m colors? I heard that 16m colors will be available on 2.1 but not or maybe on 2.3?
3.>Does X10 still lags so much on 2.1 update?
4.>1G Total ROM but how much ROM is available for User
5.>Will Flash be available if updated to 2.3?
6.>whats the Quadrant Score/Neocore and Linpack on stock 2.1 no JIT

Thanks
[ This Message was edited by: mhyke on 2011-05-20 16:17 ]


Posted by Haribolman
Talking about battery performance...I've got to say I'm pretty pleased with my X10 running 2.1.

I take it off charge at 4.30am each morning, and now here it is, 14 hours later still at 80%!

That's an average loss of only 0.7% per hour! And that's with Wifi and Bluetooth on, and with a weather widget updating every hour and a news widget updating every 3 hours.

Yesterday evening I spoke on the phone for an hour and the phone was still at 55% at 7.30pm.

Not bad...not bad at all!!

Posted by Bonovox
Can anyone recommend to me a really good picture viewer app?? I hate Media Scape. Am using Player Pro for music which is excellent.

Posted by Ricky D
Xperia X10 Hiden Gallery - The Pear is a shortcut to the stock android gallery app.

In my opinion the stock app is the best out there.

Posted by Shino03

On 2011-05-17 12:05:30, Ricky D wrote:
X10 DT will probably not work as well as you want it to in games. It will zoom in and out fine with pinch-zoom but anything requiring things like holding one finger on and tapping with another finger won't work so great i.e. not at all, also anything that require the axis of the two touch points to cross each other won't work perfectly, sometimes the axis will get confused depending on what you're doing.

If the front facing cam is not a concern to you I'd consider arc. The spec is more or less the same as neo only the front cam is missing, it has a nicer design and bigger screen, other differences are quite minor. If cost is more of an issue I have an X10i up for sale at a reasonable price.



I'm also planning to buy the X10 but what concerns me is its dual-touch too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMSLdTfN_Mg
In this video, the dual-touch looks fine, don't you think?

Posted by Hobbs
@Bonovox Try JustPictures.

Posted by Ricky D
@Shinho03

best way to think of the dual-touch is the way SE described it all along which is that it's enabled for pinch-zoom. That means you can expect it to work for pinch-zoom in all applications that use pinch-zoom but you can expect to experience less than perfect behaviour in all other scenarios. e.g. when gaming, if you hold one finger on the screen and tap with another finger, the second won't be recognised. Similarly when the axis cross each other the fingers can sometimes switch their axis with the other point on the screen meaning things like twist rotate maps in google maps doesn't work (so google disabled it for X10), pinch-zoom still works though, in all cases.

Even if you watch the video you posted closely it's difficult to tell if the player is releasing the left thumb to use the right thumb. My incline is that he/she is and that's why it works.


On a side note, it you really want to game on your phone use a wiimote, bluetooth it to your phone and have hard buttons AND you can touch as many as you want at the same time

Posted by Shino03
Thanks Ricky D! I really appreciate it. Speaking of wiimote, is it possible for the X10 to have USB OTG on the next update? Anyway, x10 is still the best android at $330 for me.
[ This Message was edited by: Shino03 on 2011-05-25 07:36 ]


Posted by Bonovox
Quote:

On 2011-05-25 06:45:48, Hobbs wrote:
@Bonovox Try JustPictures.\\n



Ok cheers

Posted by Bonovox
@hobbs thanks. Just Pictures is good and pinch to zoom works too

Posted by rikken
I use QuickPic For music I prefer Poweramp(has a lock screen widget and EQ) and I have installed an app called Headset Button Controller. That enables me to control my musicplayer with the answer button on my SE headset
[ This Message was edited by: rikken on 2011-05-25 21:50 ]


Posted by Lightspeed_x
@Bonovox: Try quickpic, its really fast at loading pictures....
In the music department, i use MixZing, it is quite nice, has an equalizer and a lock screen widget that is really useful for controlling your music from standby, when the phone is locked.
[ This Message was edited by: Lightspeed_x on 2011-05-25 20:10 ]


Posted by Bonovox
Thanks will check it out.

Posted by motvikt

On 2011-05-25 21:01:14, rikken wrote:
I use QuickPic For music I prefer Poweramp(has a lock screen widget and EQ) and I have installed an app called Headset Button Controller. That enables me to control my musicplayer with the answer button on my SE headset
[ This Message was edited by: rikken on 2011-05-25 21:50 ]



Dude thanks a lot for this!!! Really missed that feature coming from an iphone

Posted by Bonovox
Quick pic was good The Player Pro I purchased is great it also has lock screen and EQ.

Posted by Miss UK
hey folks if your thinking of downloading any of the add on keyboards of the market please don't!!!!
there impossible to remove of your phone even if Un-installed!!!!!

I had to reset myphone back to factory cos the darm Keyboard won't budge
of it not happy cos im now reset on Angry Birds

but on another note I actually managed to get the 2nd Screen Protector Thing of was getting
annoyed at the build up of dust in the edges but now theres no way for that mucky stuff to get in lol

btw any sign of Gingerbread?!

I know I keep asking but well
[ This Message was edited by: Miss UK on 2011-05-26 00:10 ]


Posted by Bonovox
Gingerbread is coming during summer I think

Posted by moogoo
can't come soon enough i say! thanks for the pic app suggestions...

Posted by Bonovox
My Quick Pic app kept force closing and I had to remove battery to turn off. It kept appearing on screen force close but I could not stop it. Uninstallled it now

Posted by Miss UK
When abouts in summer cos it's almost here
btw if are rolling out updates from over a week ago then surely it must be
coming about now in theory for the X10?
[ This Message was edited by: Miss UK on 2011-05-26 04:02 ]


Posted by moogoo
haha.. i'm with you MissUK i want it asap too.

Posted by Miss UK
Mysteriousley though when running the updater on myphone
it now takes along time to see if there are updates sooo I think it may be here pretty soon.

and lastime I updated to Pinchy thing I had weird boot ups shutting down on its own,
now the phone has done this again and failing to seek anything on searchable updating well...

lets hope it comes

I did ask on facebook about it and they just gave me a link to follow when it would be available hmm

Posted by Hobbs
End of 2nd quarter so its not to long now if everything goes to plan.

Posted by Lostsoulz
Can't wait for the update going to start a fresh install with my new 32gb class 10 sd card, We All Need Sum SPEED In our X10's


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